Crazyhorse
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Loc: Azle, Texas
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I am posting this for a long time friend.
He has a 900 acre place for lease in Archer county, between Olney and Archer City.
I did two doe hunts in an adjoining pasture last year and we saw 20+ deer at the feeders each time we were there, does and bucks. There are also plenty of hogs and some turkey.
This acreage is between Hiway 79 and the Olney Lakes.
He may have an additional 1100 acres for lease in Baylor county, east/northeast of Seymour.
Here is his email address: rjs@brazosnet.com
I have known this guy for almost 40 years, he and his folks own a store in Olney, and if anyone has been buy the store, they have seen the mounts or pictures of bucks taken off these areas.
Anyone seriously interested can pm me and I can provide more info.
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bigjohn
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Loc: Rockwall County
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That is a great area, I have hunted there. Somebody is going to like this one.
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Crazyhorse
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Reged: 11/05/04
Posts: 13853
Loc: Azle, Texas
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Just an added little bit of info on the Archer county lease, the guy that has them has been managing this lease for several years now, and there have been some really good bucks taken.
They are trophy management minded, and have been working on the herd on this area and have improved it, this 900 acres is just part of the acreage that is being managed.
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aussie1
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Loc: Fairview
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P.M. sent
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Crazyhorse
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Reged: 11/05/04
Posts: 13853
Loc: Azle, Texas
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Many Thanks to all those that have pm'ed me about this lease, but you need to email the contact listed.
The one thing I can tell you is that I was told the price on the 900 acres is $11.00 an acre.
As to how many hunters they are wanting and any management guidelines, that is something you will need to discuss with the person that I am listing the contact for.
These properties, if the one in baylor county comes open are both really good and there are some really great bucks, 150 class and larger in these areas.
Contacting me, for info other than just what I have observed over the years and on two doe hunts in an adjoining pasture this past season are only going to delay finding out real information about what the set up will be.
As I stated earlier, I have known this gentleman and his family fior 40 years, maybe a little longer, and I can remember when he and his business partner leased some of these properties.
They have been heavily involved in managing for quality deer on these places, and I have seen the results of that effort.
To save your time, please, contact the address given.
The only thing I can add, is that if, I was a Trophy minded hunter looking for a quality area, this is it.
Thanks for the interest.
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prohunter08
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bigjohn
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Loc: Rockwall County
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QB RANCH
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whitetailfanatic
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Loc: Mesquite,Tx. USA
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I've been on a buddies lease in Baylor county just outside of Seymour on the river and it is a wildlife MECCA!!
If he had any openings I would go today, but they've been there for years!!
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Crazyhorse
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Reged: 11/05/04
Posts: 13853
Loc: Azle, Texas
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Hey Guys, it might be nice if someone could fill me in on what is so funny and why the one dude deleted his post.
I just posted the contact number for a long time friend, and the areas he has to hunt on are really great, and are located in an area that has been producing some really ggod bucks and has been being managed for quality.
If any one on here feels that they know more about these properities than I do, Please, don't hold back, lets hear all that valuable info.
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prohunter08
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just posted my opinion on that area but didnt want to make anybody mad so i deleted it.thanks
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Crazyhorse
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Reged: 11/05/04
Posts: 13853
Loc: Azle, Texas
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No one is mad, you stated that you posted an opinion of the area, and I didn't see that opinion.
I have hunted up there and have seen bucks that have came out of the area.
Now if you are of the opinion that the deer in that area are not that good, lets hear those reasons.
Evidently you feel that the quality of animals from that area is not that good, and I would like to hear why you think that.
Not by pm's either.
I posted something for a friend and have nothing to gain one way or another, but I have been seeing deer that have been coming out of that area for 10 years now, and they are damn good deer, and I am not a trophy hunter by any means, but I do know what trophy quality deer look like.
Now I asked if you had information on the area that I don't, and I am waiting for you to post your evidence.
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easton1025
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Loc: carrollton texas
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just posted my opinion on that area but didnt want to make anybody mad so i deleted it.thanks
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prohunter08
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thats ok bud,I myself have hunted the area for some time now and have heard storys and such to wear the best areas are in the county from alot of people that have hunted it for a very long time at least 10 years.thanks .no more from me on this good luck on you helping your freind.
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Crazyhorse
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Reged: 11/05/04
Posts: 13853
Loc: Azle, Texas
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To each his own, I have seen the deer, both live and dead, and have watched their management program as it has progressed over the years they have had it.
Don't know what proof you have that the deer are not there, but I have seen the proof that the deer are there and they are quality animals.
I just find it funny or strange that a person would state something that they evidently felt was a true statement and then delete it.
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Txduckman
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Reged: 08/30/04
Posts: 5000
Loc: Big D
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I believe he said it would be worth $7 to $8 an acre due to the deer quality. The same can be said for all of the northwest Dallas counties though. Montague, Clay, Archer. One mile and your lucky to see a deer and a mile away you will see 5 to 10 each hunt. That is the way it is.
Some are worth $20 an acre and others $4 an acre. You can't judge a book by it's cover in that area of Texas. Problem with that part of Texas is the pockets are smaller than S. Texas where it will be miles of good hunting and a little of bad. Do you homework and you will have an awesome spot.
BTW - My buddy who has hunted Montague for $5 to $7 an acre for 6 six years was raised to $10 an acre this year. It is still a great deal. Landowner said he had to do it and it would be the last raise ever. He also gave about 15% of the land to a family member so it can't be hunted.
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Crazyhorse
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Posts: 13853
Loc: Azle, Texas
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Thank You, that was what I was wanting to find out.
I have no idea what leases are worth including that one, but I do know what people are asking for leases, and it is a funny thing, very few hunters feel that the leases are worth what the person is asking for it.
That is pretty simple and straight forward, and if someone is wanting a place bad enough, they will pay the asking rate.
That is nothing I would have gotten mad about, but as you stated deer in that area can be good in one pocket and not so good 2 miles away.
I have been on the properties and have seen the deer, and the quality and quantity is there.
By the quick delete of the post, I was wondering if my ability to judge deer and deer range were what was at question.
I believe I stated in the OP that were I interested in Trophy Bucks this would be a place I would think of leasing, I am not a Trophy hunter, but that in no way means that I don't know what Trophy deer are.
I can do nothing about the price being asked, nor would I if I could, simply because it isn't my property to be leasing and I do not know what I might be asking, I might be lower, and then again I might be higher.
Duckman, Thanks for your input, prohunter08, how about next time you give people the option of figuring out whether you have said something to get mad about or not.
You are more than entitled to your assessment as to how much you think the lease should be going for, and the guy that is offering as a lease has the right to stick the price tag on their that he feels is right.
The only point where I disagree with you, is that unless you have hunted that particular property and know what all of the conditions are of the lease agreement, you really have no basis of fact to say how much or little it should lease for.
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prohunter08
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thats right txduckman,were your at in the county means everything.and 11 dollers a acre is two high for burned up oil patch land.7 to 8 dollers maybe.10 years ago there were very little deer in the county its getting better and thease guys are still trying to get top doller for deer in progress.its not the hill country or south texas come on
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Crazyhorse
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Reged: 11/05/04
Posts: 13853
Loc: Azle, Texas
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So, you are trying to tell everyone, that if you were the person that had the land up for lease, that you would let it go at a lower price, then trying to get top dollar for it?
No, it is not the hill country or south Texas and that is a plain fact, and I started out deer hunting when a good lease was $1.00 an acre, and can rmeber when there were few or no deer in many places that today are leasing for as much or more than what my friend is asking on his place.
That is one of the reasons I doe hunt, but that does not mean that I am gonna sit around and bad mouth folks for charging what the market will bear for a lease.
Go back thru the past threads on the subject of lease fees, and I think you will notice that it is a fairly general concensus that as long as HUNTERS are willing to pay the prices, they are not going to come down.
I can't do anything about that, and neither can you.
No one is buying the land, all they are doing is leasing the right to trespass on it and kill deer, plain and simple.
I agree that lease prices are too high, STATE WIDE, of course I ain't a horn hunter either and I ain't never seen me a white tail buck that I would pay $150.00 for, but I will be the last person that tries to tell anyone that they are charging too much for what they are offering.
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Crazyhorse
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Posts: 13853
Loc: Azle, Texas
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Just talked to my friend, and the 900 acres in Archer county has been leased.
The 11000 acres in Baylor county is still open at this time.
Here is his email address: rjs@brazosnet.com
To save time/effort/energy, anyone that is interested in this lease, CONTACT the above listed address.
I am not a middle man and I do not want to get into philosophical debates about how much deer leases cost.
I am simlpy doing a favor for a friend, that is all.
My suggestion is, that if you and your group are interested, you need to get in touch with this man A.S.A.P., for two reasons, One, other folks are contacting him, and Two, you need to be working on the lease and not jerking around on the computer, bow season is about 90 days away and talking on the computer ain't gettin' a place found or blinds and feeders set up.
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MaggieMTx
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If you're not interested, dont post, save us all the trouble.
Good luck Randall, sounds awesome. GREAT stuff up & in that area.
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Crazyhorse
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Loc: Azle, Texas
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Sorry for the outburst Maggie.
It is not that I, or probably anyone else that posts properties for lease, do not want people that have LEGITIMATE gripes or comments about the quality or quantity of game in the area to refrain from posting, that is part of the process, if a person has real time information, by all means they need to post it.
To have someone, anyone come on here and make random, and possibly unfounded or uniformed complaints about what some one is asking/charging for a lease, serves no purpose what so ever.
I do not agree with the way deer hunting in Texas and the prices associated with same have gone, it has forced me and many other folks that I know, out of the sport.
But, I am a big boy, and not trying to offend you or any of the other ladies on the THF Maggie, but shooting a big pointed B&C buck does not increase the size of anyones cahones one millimeter.
Horns don't cook but do cost $$$$$$.
I welcome comments concerning deer numbers and quality on the places I list for my friends.
Griping about price, when no one is being forced to lease the property, and there is not one person out there that is going to lease their property for less than what they can get for it under normal circumstance.
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MaggieMTx
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Sorry for the outburst Maggie.
No need for you to say sorry about it.
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prohunter08
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Reged: 10/14/07
Posts: 449
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Still to high,And what you said is true but if people would quit putting such prices on the land then people like you would still be in the sport.Land owners should really be fair when setting a price.
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Crazyhorse
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Reged: 11/05/04
Posts: 13853
Loc: Azle, Texas
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I am not out of the sport completely, I killed 6 deer this past year.
I took myself out of the sport of hunting bucks because prices went higher than I was willing to pay.
If I decide I want to spend money to shoot a buck, I am gonna go up to the Nebraska Panhandle where I stand the chance of shooting a nice white tail buck, but I will probably hold out for a muley buck since I can shoot either on the same license.
Also, the 900 acre place did lease, so someone did not think it was too much, AND AS LONG AS HUNTERS are willing to pay those prices, things are not going to change.
As I stated earlier on this thread, and have stated before on other threads, as long as HUNTERS are willing to pay the price, land owners and leasing agents are going to keep charging those prices.
Depending on what is going on with the prices, Lora and I can go out and kill 10 does between us for less than even a mediocre lease would cost for one of us.
When you look back over the past 15 years or so, and realize that hunter demand is what has been the driving force in running up lease prices, then you will comprehend the whole situation a little better.
As long as you think it is the greed of the landowner or person that has the land to lease, that has elevated the prices, then you have not opened your eyes to the way things actually are. JMO.
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