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Bird Dog


Reged: 11/30/07
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To dry fire or not
      #440217 - 06/12/08 09:55 AM

I've got an 870 12 ga, 700 .30-06, Marlin 60 .22LR, and Mini 14 .223. I don't like leaving these with the hammer cocked after cleaning. Do you guys dry fire after cleaning for storage, or just leave them cocked? Do you use Snap Caps? I know you're definitely not supposed to dry fire a .22 rimfire, but what about the shotgun and centerfires?

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RICK O'SHAY
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Re: To dry fire or not [Re: filly]
      #440229 - 06/12/08 10:08 AM

I DO.... I BOUGHT A SHOTGUN THAT HAD BEEN JUST SITTING IN A CLOSET FOR YEARS, I HAD TO HAVE THE SPRING REPLACED BECAUSE IT HAD BEEN COCKED FOR SO LONG.

I HAVE A BROTHER IN LAW WITH ABOUT A 60 YR OLD SHOTGUN HE ALWAYS DRY FIRES IT (AND ALL HIS GUNS) AND HAS NEVER HAD A PROBLEM. ANYWAY EVER SINCE THE SHOTGUN I MENTIONED, I DRY FIRE ALL MINE BEFORE STORAGE.

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kbobbjr
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Re: To dry fire or not [Re: filly]
      #440244 - 06/12/08 10:25 AM

I have snap caps for my shotgun, so no, I don't dry fire mine.

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atascosa_red
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Reged: 07/10/07
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Re: To dry fire or not [Re: filly]
      #440252 - 06/12/08 10:43 AM

I have always dry fired mine before storage or after cleaning. Never had a problem with any of them.

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Cruz
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Re: To dry fire or not [Re: filly]
      #440261 - 06/12/08 10:49 AM

I dry fire all of my guns all the time with no problems. Snap caps would not hurt either.

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Re: To dry fire or not [Re: Cruz]
      #440271 - 06/12/08 11:03 AM

On bolt actions, slowly close the bolt ( lock it down ) while pulling the trigger at the same time. That keeps it from snapping the firing pin.

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Rwuensch
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Re: To dry fire or not [Re: HuntingTexas]
      #440356 - 06/12/08 01:49 PM

Nope, not worth the risk. You might dry fire the thing for years before it breaks.

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Bernard
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Re: To dry fire or not [Re: HuntingTexas]
      #440518 - 06/12/08 05:15 PM

Like HuntingTexas said. For a bolt action, with the bolt open pull the trigger and keep it pulled. Then, close the bolt while you've got the trigger pulled. It's not cocked. I've never dry-fired one of my bolt action rifles, and I've never left one cocked in the gun case. I don't own any lever action rifles, but it would seem that the same thing would apply for lever action rifles also.

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redchevy
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Re: To dry fire or not [Re: Bernard]
      #440541 - 06/12/08 06:00 PM

With bolt action rifles, make sure there is nothing in the chamber then push the bolt all the way forward and hold the trigger back while you close the bolt the rest of the way.

matt

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redchevy
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Re: To dry fire or not [Re: redchevy]
      #440542 - 06/12/08 06:01 PM

Well I guess someone already beat me to it.

matt

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Cool_Hand
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Re: To dry fire or not [Re: redchevy]
      #440557 - 06/12/08 06:29 PM

1.auto shot guns-leave the breach open
2. pumps- open the breach, pull and hold trigger and close
3.Bolts-What HuntingTexas & Redchevy said
4.O/U-I never dry fire mine.

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Bird Dog


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Re: To dry fire or not [Re: Cool_Hand]
      #440600 - 06/12/08 07:10 PM

what about semi's, such as my mini 14? pull bolt back, pull trigger, ride bolt forward while holding trigger?

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Re: To dry fire or not [Re: filly]
      #440734 - 06/12/08 09:46 PM

Snap Caps

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Bird Dog


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Re: To dry fire or not [Re: RWH24]
      #440739 - 06/12/08 09:50 PM

Yeah, I just ordered some A-Zoom's in .30-06, .223, and 12 ga. $28 total, two per caliber.

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Re: To dry fire or not [Re: filly]
      #440743 - 06/12/08 09:51 PM

Either that or .... will bolt stay back when its empty?

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Re: To dry fire or not [Re: Cool_Hand]
      #440845 - 06/13/08 07:57 AM

Yeah, but then the bolt is under tension.

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duckhnter4life
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Re: To dry fire or not [Re: filly]
      #444016 - 06/18/08 08:19 PM

I don't care if I sound stupid but what the heck is a snap cap! is it like a fake bullet/shell to give the hammer something to hit?

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Re: To dry fire or not [Re: duckhnter4life]
      #444059 - 06/18/08 09:50 PM

yes, it has a fake primer that has a spring behind it.

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Re: To dry fire or not [Re: helomech]
      #444288 - 06/19/08 11:23 AM

Gunsmith I use has been working on guns for 50+ years, says you wont hurt your gun to dry fire. Dont do it hundreds of times every week, but cleaning and maintenance and even unloading wont hurt.

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Re: To dry fire or not [Re: Cool_Hand]
      #444392 - 06/19/08 12:43 PM

Quote:

2. pumps- open the breach, pull and hold trigger and close




This doesnt work on 870's, at least not mine.

matt

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cattle69
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Re: To dry fire or not [Re: redchevy]
      #444733 - 06/19/08 09:18 PM

I my gun can't handle a dry fire, I don't want it in the field with me!

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Re: To dry fire or not [Re: cattle69]
      #444819 - 06/20/08 12:23 AM

dry fire, but always look to make sure the chamber is "dry"

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DoubleB20
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Re: To dry fire or not [Re: rstewlandman]
      #445397 - 06/21/08 08:55 AM

For shotguns I've always just cut off the crimp and use that one as snap cap. Not sure if it makes any difference, but I've used a couple for 35 years on my Browning SS and it's still working great. I do the bolt action "safety" too, but I leave a round in the chamber. Then when ready to shoot all you have to do is rotate the bold up and then down and firing pin is recocked.

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matt bohac
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Re: To dry fire or not [Re: DoubleB20]
      #451579 - 07/01/08 12:22 PM

I do it but have always heard it isn't good to do. Some guns you have no choice unless you have the caps.

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dryland_fish
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Re: To dry fire or not [Re: matt bohac]
      #451755 - 07/01/08 03:04 PM

I do dry fire mine after cleaning. I always head it want hurt them as long as you just dont dry fire over and over...

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