jeh7mmmag
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FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD
This post is pinned to help us bookmark common information and sites regarding Feral Hogs Regulation, Laws, Health warning, or Public information regarding Hogs. If you have any good sites or information please post them here.  
*New Texas Animal Health Commission (TAHC) regulations for moving LIVE feral swine will go into effect October 1.
The brochure also is posted on the TAHC web site at http://www.tahc.state.tx.us
*TAHC: Regulations For Trapping or Moving Feral (Wild) Swine, Safety for Hunters,
http://www.tahc.state.tx.us/animal_health/sb_pr/feral_swine.pdf
*TAHC: Swine Diseases a Danger to Humans and Livestock.
web page
http://www.tahc.state.tx.us/animal_health/diseases/sb_pr/feral_swine.pdf
*TPWLD links:
http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/huntwild/wild/nuisance/feral_hogs/
*Trapping and Trap construction:
http://www.hpj.com/archives/2005/dec05/d...;0.545428953909
http://www.noble.org/Ag/Wildlife/FeralHogs/12-Trapping.htm
*Anatomy and kill zone:
http://www.texasboars.com/anatomy.html
*Processing:
*Cooking, prep, and sausage
http://www.sausagemaker.com/
http://www.askthemeatman.com/cooking_wild_boar.htm
http://www.lubbockonline.com/stories/022207/lif_022207030.shtml
http://bbq.about.com/od/barbecuehelp/a/aa061006a.htm
http://www.pig-hunt.com/id20.html
http://www.spitjack.com/page/SJ/CTGY/HOG?gclid=CPH8se_JjYkCFQRbFQodAylOAw
http://slemke.tripod.com/hog.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brining
*TAMU INFORMATION:
http://texnat.tamu.edu/symposia/feral/feral-6.htm
http://feralhogs.tamu.edu/trap.cfm
http://feralhogs.tamu.edu/bait.cfm
http://wildlife.tamu.edu/publications/tahcregulations4.pdf
*OTHER:
http://www.nrw.qld.gov.au/factsheets/pdf/pest/pa7.pdf
Edited by jeh7mmmag (09/29/08 02:02 PM)
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deuce12
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thanks
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a777pilot
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Are there any parts of the State of Texas that have solved their "hog problem"?
I keep thinking that with all the hunters in this State and the fact that one can just about hunt them any time, any where (with permission) with just about any weapon, why there are still so many of these hog out there?
Are they really that prolific and that smart?
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HWY_MAN
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Are they really that prolific and that smart?
Smart no! Prolific yes. Add that to the tendency for them to move at night and a limited amount of predators willing to take on the onslaught of an adult hog.
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Crazyhorse
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Smart no!
I am gonna have to disagree with you on that one. 
On the scale of animal intelligence, pigs are smarter than cats or dogs.
Why do you think they go nocturnal if they are shot into a couple of times during the day time.
The fact that in some places people keep catching hog after hog in their traps, is due to greed on the hogs part in wanting to get at the bait inside the trap.
I bet there are folks out there right now that are beginning to experience hogs that are getting trap smart. JMO.
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HWY_MAN
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I think it depends on how we measure their intelligence. If we measure it on their ability to avoid hunters, I would have to say not very smart. One of the reasons they’re so popular to hunt with a bow or handguns is the hunter’s ability to get in close. Their eye sights poor, to say the least, making them easy to stalk by just playing the wind.
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Why do you think they go nocturnal
I don't think they go nocturnal, their just nocturnal by nature as are most wild creatures.
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a777pilot
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This is great. Just like the age old question: Which is smarter, the pig or the horse? I always picked the pig. Ya don't see them with cowboys on their backs all day, do you?
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Crazyhorse
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The places where they are hunted with bow and handgun are different than places where they have been hunted with rifles.
Bow and handgun hunting work in areas with big hog populations and low hunting pressure.
Try putting a bow or handgun hunter out on a place where the hogs have received lots of pressure and the population is on the low side.
Also just like white tail deer will go nocturnal, so will pigs.
True, pigs do prefer to travel during the periods of low light.
I have also seen pigs change from moving around just before dark, to not moving at all until well after dark because they had been shot at. JMO.
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passthru
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Hogs will go nocturnal quicker too. Still, that's why we have glow sticks and spot lights.
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PappawRock
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Well hopefully a pig or two'll log in and blog a bit just to demonstrate their intelligence, or lack thereof, and settle this issue...otherwise Id hafta vote for the hog and rider theory that A777 come up with...of course on the other hand, maybe the hogs are what cowboys ride at night and THAT's why we don't see them rode...
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TEXASLEFTY
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hogs use there noses more than anything else! I know a man who is in his late 70s he grew up somewhere close to jasper as a child they had no running water and the well was some distance from there house one day his grandmother and siblings were getting water and came up on some wild pigs she told them dont make a sound and dont move he said after a little while the pigs just walked off he thinks it was becuase they could not see them or here them
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hsuhunter
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i have walked up to 10 yards and shot them with my bow, very bad vision. good noses though. you have to kill 80 percent or the hog population every year for it not to grow. it is just impossible to kill that many, other than with helicopters and class 3 weapons
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texasspazzman
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#1 - YES! They will charge some times. Down here in BFE we hunt them a lot with dogs and when they are bayed up by a bunch of dogs they get...shall we say "irritated".  The other dangerous moment is if you're dealing with a momma and piglets. I have personally been chased up a tree more than once! Most of the time though, they'll just turn and run away. Especially when shot.
#2 - Their sight is poor, their hearing is decent, and their noses are (I think) as good or better than a deer. My main bow hunting place here in East Texas is covered with them and has been for 10-15 years, so I'm talking from experience.
#3 - It is ILLEGAL to carry a firearm (rifle or handgun) during the Archery Only deer season. The game warden won't care to hear your excuse of "I'm hunting hogs". The rest of the year, it's legal.
and #4...
My solution to the bow hunting question is USE A LADDER STAND and bait out a spot. You'll have heck trying to find and stalk hogs on the ground.
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TEXASLEFTY
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it is not illegal to carry a handgun during bow only if you have a CHL
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okbowhunter
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it is not illegal to carry a handgun during bow only if you have a CHL
Question, so it's not illegal if you have a CHL but can you legally kill a hog with the weapon ... while engaging in archery for deer?
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texasspazzman
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TEXASLEFTY is right, and I stand corrected.
I was not aware of the Concealed Handgun exception, but here it is: (from TPWD)
Archery and Crossbows
It is unlawful to be in possession of a firearm while hunting with a broadhead HUNTING point during the Archery-Only season, EXCEPT a person licensed to carry a concealed handgun in Texas may carry a concealed handgun.
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Greybeard
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"Question, so it's not illegal if you have a CHL but can you legally kill a hog with the weapon ... while engaging in archery for deer?"
Use of handgun must be in strict accordance with CHL laws, predominantly covered in Chapter 9 of Penal Code. And there ain't mention in there of shooting pigs.  In my not-so-humble opinion, closest thing applicable could possibly be be "Necessity", aka "Law of Competing Harms". CHL Instructor #6616
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cibolo
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so if the hog is charging and you are in imminent danger go ahead and dispatch the hog. would you use a two tap or keep firing until you no longer feel threatend. i've seen some people in situations with hogs and russian boar and mixes with bows were i was glad i had my 30/30 or .44 for close encounters especially with mama and her little one's. as for how smart they are they are like cock roaches and can adapt to any enviorment and will eat anything. it seems like you shoot one and 30 more pop up. my buddy has about a 3 acre inclosure on his 500 acre place that he keeps nothing but ferral hogs and we usually shoot about 5 a month for a bbq and such or give them to the ranchhands,but it seems like you just throw water on them and they reproduce like damn gremlins.
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Cool_Hand
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This why we have our place flown every year. Even at the rate of kill from the air they still repopulate because of the short gestation period. And are they smart??? In a lot of ways especially if they've been shot at from the air and the next time they are approached they just stand perfectally still!!! You have to make very low level passes and try to guess where they are hold up! I think its called hide n' seek!!  
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MaggieMTx
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Had someone fly by our place saturday afternoon/evening, he was in his white helicopter, knew he was the local fly-by-shooter lol
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dayton
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yes it is
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BRUTE
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Hogs are very smart, they just get in trouble because of water, food, and sex.
They are a very tough and durable animal. They can be seem to be some of the easiest animals to hunt if they have not been hunted before, no pressure, but put a little pressure on them and you will have to work for it. It can be very rewarding, especially to take large trophy type boars.
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TGalyon1
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Quote:
Are there any parts of the State of Texas that have solved their "hog problem"?
I keep thinking that with all the hunters in this State and the fact that one can just about hunt them any time, any where (with permission) with just about any weapon, why there are still so many of these hog out there?
Are they really that prolific and that smart?
There are two kinds of property in Texas those that have hogs  and those that are going to get hogs  .
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cody
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I don't think their eyesight is all that poor...I've ambled up on a wheat field 400 yards away and downwind and had them run like their a$$es were on fire.
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STRIKE_N_STOP_EM_KENNELS
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There just aint no stoppin em.
We've killed at least a good 55-60 pig's in the last six month's an we still cant get rid of em'.
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