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Uncle Ted has my vote!!! He said what I and everybody on here feel that any gun bans will do nothing but help out criminals and, of course, that the liberals are a bunch of whiners!!!!
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always gotta have atleast one basher on these threads...still has my vote, the guys a patriot. draft dodging was an accusation. He was a student and got a 1 year student deferment. He later toured a USO show in Afghanistan; now would the U.S. military allow a draft dodger to play for the troops? get off your horse and join in; the guys kicks a$$ and loves to hunt. If he can speak onpenly with confidence and stand up for your rights as a hunter/gunowner why not back him. I never said we need him as governor; but running the NRA would be a great position for him IMO |
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he dosen't have near the class that heston did. dont get me wrong, i think the guys awesome, but he needs to look more professional when hes doing interviews. he dosen't really portray the articulate, intellegent individual that he is when he goes on t.v wearing a cut-off shirt. |
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john wayne was a draft dodger but every body loved him,Mahamid ali was a draft dodger everybody loved him.Now what who cares what he wears to keep your freedoms alive.He's getting the air time are the suits getting it hell no.And he moved from michigan to live in the great state of texas
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Quote: what gun supporters need is a guy who looks professional when talking about his passion, it matters to those who are on the fence about gun rights, all the valid points comming out of his mouth are overshadowed to alot of folks because all they see is a hick in cut-offs and a camo cowboy hat doing an interview. perception is reality, if they see a person who fits a stereotype, then they will lump him into that catagory no matter what comes out of his mouth. as for the draft dodger comment, if it were late 1960's, and i got called up to go to vietnam, i would have used my resources to try and get out of it. dodging the vietnam war and dodging WW II are two very different things |
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draft dodging is draft dodging,Looking at the choices we have been left with, uncle ted looks pretty damn good dont you think.WEARING WHAT EVER. |
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He would get my vote to! Im tired of all the pussy footen around. I also dont care what the man wears, he believes in our rights to bear arms and he shouldnt have to impress anybody with a suit and tie! |
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I agree but what do we do with the choices given to us now.Look at rosie odonnel and the thing with tom selick he dresses nicer but she attacked him on tv.Damn man we need to start something with this ted thing dont you think. |
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I agree with txtrophy85, Nug would have done a lot more good if he had dressed in a suit and tie and not a camo cowboy hat. What he said was good, and you and I agree, but we would agree anyway. The important folks (the majority with the most votes) are likely not impressed with Bubba wearing camo. I do have to disagree with txtrophy85 one one thing, I was of draft age in the late '60's and was not a damn draft dodger. |
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Quote: Not an accusation, it was an admission. How do you do 300 shows a year and claim a student deferrment at the same time. School of Rock maybe? "I got 30 days' notice of the physical," Nugent told them. "I ceased cleansing my body. Two weeks before the test I stopped eating food with nutritional value. A week before, I stopped going to the bathroom. I did it in my pants. My pants got crusted up." When questioned, he admitted that he had "not wanted to get his [censored] blown off in Vietnam," "I am not a coward." He also said that "Because I failed to serve in Vietnam, I feel an obligation now, to do everything I can to support those defending our freedom. Do I feel guilt and embarrassment? Yes." Wikipedia |
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thats good but it dont change a thing in what i said before.WE NEED HIS VOICE HE STILL GETS AIR TIME |
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I think the not bathing thing is a myth. Wikipedia isnt very credible. Go over to the Nuge board and ask him. He will answer. He responded to several of my posy over there. |
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I think Nugent has the power and ability to help hunters and gun owners greatly, I just do not agree with his "In The Face" approach, and I am not the only one. His service record or John Wayne's or anyone else's or lack there of is not what is important. What is important is not having ANYONE, regardless of how much we agree with them or how much we think we like them, pissing that middle of the road majority off and pushing them to the other side of the line. JMO. |
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he has the same approach as you half the time.thats why you dont like it.PISS OFF A DAMN LIBERAL WHO CARES. |
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I like Ted regardless of his past or style. I think though Tom Selleck will be the next President of the NRA. He has moved up the Board of Directors and officers. I believe he is being groomed to take over the job. |
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That is where you are wrong, the only folks I seem to be able to make mad is a certain segment of folks on this forum. Just because I stand behind my opinions on this place does not mean that I am an "In Anybodies Face Type Of Person". I found out a long time ago that people are usually a lot more open to hear the truth about hunting especially if you are not bouncing around like a ferret on steroids and talk to them in a reasonable manner and present actual facts, insted of getting in their face, especially with some of that Spirit of the Wild business. Nugent, and anyonre else that can display the type of emotions and energies that he does on ANY issue can and has been known to turn a complete 180, and they can be a lot more powerful enemy than they were a friend. I really don't trust anyone that places that much importance on noteriety. JMO Lastly, you need to wait and meet people face to face and have an actual conversation with them, before you start throwing out labels and judging them from typed words on a computer screen. |
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in a legal standpoint he should present himself more accordingly for interviews and such, but whose to say he wasnt sitting on his back porch watchin the sunset a few minutes before that satellite interview. If it werent any consellation atleast his outfit shows that he is an avid hunter and not some professional who knows nothing of the ownership of firearms but only what he aspires to do about the right. he is a big name with an image and there is no reason to criticize him upholding that, the only reason he was consulted on the issue is because he is interesting to see and hear from, call it a ploy but it works and he is making our voices hear publicly. More power to him for havin the audacity to dress like so. |
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what ever mr.in your face want to try and show every body up.IM DONE WITH YOU BUD.YOU ARE THE FIRST ONE TO TALK EVERY TIME ON ALL THESE TOPICS.I HOPE YOU DONT ALWAYS BASE YOUR WORDS ON THE WAY SOMEONE DRESSES. |
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Why is showing your honest opinion on something or being a intellangent conversationalist being a show off? I have met C.H. and he is a good man to know! One other thing, if you knew CH and have seen him you wouldnt call him a snappy dresser! But he is a intellagent man and i think that is what ticks off a few people. |
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How many of you folks have ever taken the time to go to one of the TP&W Public Comment meetings???? Well, I have been. The one thing I noticed, and I have been to a couple of the things, EVERYONE of the HUNTERS that were there to give their opinion, was dressed decently, no camo, no blaze orange, just normal every day dress, as if they were going to work, or a business meeting. The goobers that were tree huggers/bunny huggers, or whatever, showed up looking like burnt out hippies, sandals, shorts, spouting off emotional hyperbole. Nugent has done some good for our sport, but, we need someone that presents an image of maturity and that is willing to logically and realistically discuss the issues and give proven evidence, instead of falling off into highly charged, in your face, mystic nonsense. Most hunters, hunt because they enjoy it and want to hunt, and do not look at it as some great mystic calling to worship the beast. I feel that presenting actual facts to people, about just exactly what the role of hunting is in modern wildlife management, without trying to insult peoples intelligence will work better than the "In Your Face" crap, because from experience, a reasonable, thinking adult can tell that the stuff being thrown out by the Anti's/PETA, is pure , and has NO basis in fact.You folks want to see Nugent do something actually helpful and worthwhile, get him to take on the HSUS and what their REAL agenda is. |
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thank you crazy horse, thats exactly what i was trying to convey. look the part, dress professional and you will be more well recieved than if you look like you just got back from a tractor pull. we lost a good one when we lost heston |
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what ever,talk talk talk,crazyhorse is still in your face on every topic.Not saying anything about what kind of guy he is as far as i know he is a great guy and all.All i said is that it dont matter how you look or dress to be a helping hand to us hunters. |
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Any of you that keep up with Ted, knows that's how he dresses. This is a very intelligent man. I am proud to be a member of the NRA. I don't care what he dresses like. If we're going to win a battle against the anti-gunners we're going to have to do it together. I'm proud to be a Blood Brother. |
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Have to disagree with that, while how a person is dressed should not matter, I defy anyone on here to go in and apply for a job looking the way Nugent does most of the time. It ain't gonna matter what your resume says, it is going to be your appearance that opens or closes the door. Everybody, and I do mean EVERYBODY makes a pre-judgement call on others by the way they are dressed. That pertains to individuals, private industry, any type of goverment job. People have gone to spouting some big time on this issue, because not a single person on here goes to their job dressed the way thet would dress on their day off.If they do, they either work for themself or are very lucky. Everyone has their "work uniform", because employers want customers to have a good feeling about doing business with professional looking and acting people. Almost all or all of us would be hesitant about doing business at a place where when we walked in the door someone dressed and acting like Nugent met us at the counter. How many of us would go into a nice restaraunt and order food if the waiter came out dressed like Nugent?? Anyone want to truthfully answer that? I used to be a firm believer in that saying that the suit don't make the man, but after doing some really serious people watching over the past 40+ years, I can guarantee that in REAL TIME life, over 90% of us, upon meeting someone on the street dressed and acting like Nugent, would do EVERYTHING we could to avoid making contact with that person. We "Forgive" Nugent for that, 1, because he is famous, and 2, because he has been a strong voice supporting hunting. Anyone that thinks I am wrong, next time you go to the bank to ask about a loan or you get ready to head to church, try dressing like Nugent and see how far that flies. Before anyone even thinks about making some kind of remark about the way I dress, I do not even own a suit, never have. I wear jeans and T shirts year round, but do have one or two, what I consider dress shirts. I don't care what folks think about the way I dress, much to the chagrin of Lora. But anyone that really believes that they themselves, along with the vast majority of the population, Do Not make their first judgement call about a person by the way they are dressed, IS DREAMING. Because the majority of us do make that first judgement call due to a peron choice of clothes, many folks close themselves off at that point and are not going to be receptive to anything the person in question says. I ain't saying its right, in fact it is as wrong as it can be, because as the old and wise saying goes, "Do Not Judge A Book By Its Cover", but every damn one of us is guilty of it to a certain extent EVERY day of our lives. |
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Only problem Maggie,we, the folks that appreciate his support and the message that he is putting out, are the CHOIR, he needs to be preaching to the CONGREGATION. If some of us that are hunters and do appreciate his help in getting the word out, feel that he needs to present a better image to the PUBLIC, think of that great 80% out there that are going to pass judgement on his looks and not listen to the message. We really don't need all hunters and gun owners standing around and patting each other on the back and giving high 5's, we need to convince the non-committed voters of this country that we are serious, dedicated outdoors people that can present our side of the story in a tactful and personable manner. We need to sway voters, PETA and some of the other Anti groups are their own worst enemies when it comes to presenting their arguemments. I haven't seen where anyone is saying that Nugent needs to go running around in a 3 piece suit, looking like a complete phony, but it might be nice if he looked like he was going to a business meeting instead of on stage to do a concert. JMO. |
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It is difficult for any "extreme" to gain widespread acceptance. That goes for dress,hairstyles,weather, viewpoints etc. For this reason, I agree that Ted Nugent would not be the best "face" to represent gun owners and gun rights even though it would be hard to find anyone that is more vocal in their support. |
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Don't forget, CH is always right! I know I can't be the only one who gets tired of his opinions! Do you actually have a life or do you just sit and just wait to give your opinion about everything. All I have to say is "Get A Life". |
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If Nugent can't be Nugent, regardless of what he is wearing, than are we seeing the REAL Nugent??? Have you ever seen anyone that was that way, they had a Public Personna and a Private Personna???? I have, and it is amazing to see that transformation in those folks. AAJMO. -are we seeing "the real nugent"? the guy is an idol to some and a role model, he has lived a successful life and gained an image as a rocker. He doesnt need to change his attire to please the crowds. He has an image and that is the reason that people know him and like him. I for one back his loud and free personality. Maybe i dont know him personally (i would damn sure like the chance to meet and get to know him) but he seems to be a very well based and moral individual. I dont know you either CrazyHorse but i think you enjoy posting your biased opinions for the mere fact of being different and seeing what people have to say. If you dont like a fellow for the way he dresses and that what sways your opinions then you perhaps need to turn around and check out whats going on in todays world. Its "hip" to be different, you make yourself seen and known by catchin the eyes of other in whatever way possible. Styles come and go and the majority of the U.S. scrambles to stay in line for the nexr "fad." Ted Nugent seems to be one of the few that is portraying himself in a manner that he finds suitable and confortable. More power to him for being able to hold strong with critics like you bash him down. I only wish I had the succes and backing to present myself accordingly. You sir should think about your argument here. Climb off of that High Horse dressed in jeans and a T Shirt and look at the youth your children are growing up with. He is a dying breed able to hold on to what he knows and loves, it is people like you who are turning the hunting world into a corporate office instead of a woodcamp tradition. Take your presentation argument elsewhere; I and I perceive others on this matter merely embrace the oppurtunity to have a public figure speak out with the things we want to say as well. I dont care if hes buck naked when he says it. Atleast its heard. I dont think you would have such an argument if it had been a radio broadcast! I still feel perfectly comfortable saying I would love to see "The Nug" in his camo cutoffs and camo cowboy hate leading presentations at nationwide NRA banquets! Then, with his demeanor being the publicity NRA needs; maybe some of the "majority population" you sepak of would see the NRA and find interest enough to check out why we fight for what we have. Remember; the vast majority of voters are oblivious. |
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Learn how to use the Ignore This User feature. This is an Open forum, upon which, there are topics/threads that turn into discussions/debates. Can you show me where it states that anyone is limited to how many opinions they can have or how many replies they can make. Looks to me, that someone that is so concerned about how many opinions another member has or how often they chose to make them, is the person that needs to get a life. Your the one that said that I am always right, I did not say that at any time since I have been on here, and have been proven wrong on numerous occasions. Lots of folks get tired of my opinions, you are not in a boat by yourself, but you know what, I am not tired of my opinions nor will I ever be. On a subject like this one, the basic concept of the discussion is that while the majority of us appreciate that Ted nugent is such a vocal and public supporter of hunting, some folks feel that it could be done in a modified manner so as not to alienate the group we are needing to convince, the voting non-committed public. Now if you want to peition the PTB's to start placing limits on just exactly how many opinions or posts any one member has or makes, you go right ahead, I am sure that there are some that will support you on that. I am also sure that there will be some that won't. You have a really great day.
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how about someone respectible, who gets positive attention, instead of looking like some crazy redneck who just got home from the mill. just in case you haven't noticed, its going to be the well dressed, well read, articulate hunters who save the sport, not jim bob and bubba gunn who just climbed outta the swamp. as i said before, i like the guy, but he describes eating wild game like its better than sex. and him going on t.v looking like that and talking like that isn't going to help the hunters cause in the eyes of the non-hunter. go ask any non-hunter what comes to mind when they think of hunters, and i guarentee that ted nugent comes to mind. i for one, don't want to be lumped in to that group |
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Quote: Hunters do not need either one of us for President. Hunters and Fishermen need the following things now, and then finding someone to be our representative needs to come later. 1. All, and I do mean ALL of the infighting and bad mouthing between hunters and fishermen needs to stop completely.2. We need to quit finding frivolous and idiotic arguements, that are only divisive and segregate us into camps, bow hunters are not better than gun hunters, duck hunters are not the only real hunters that there, antler size is not as important as being out in the field hunting, catch and release fishing is fine, but that should not make anyone less of a person if they decide they want some fish to eat, and the list goes on. 3. Getting into meaningless, abusive arguements, simple because you do not agree with someone or they do not agree with you needs to stop and forcefully discouraged on ANY forum. Such arguements achieve nothing, except to further divide people. The internet, is after all part of the world wide web and none of us have any real idea who all or how many people read the stuff we post. 4. Hunters especially need to realize that just because someone does not hunt, that does not mean that they have a problem with our hunting. 5. No one style or type of hunting is any better or any worse than any other. I do not support the NRA, but I do support their concept that it is either we all stand together to defend the sport or we all will end up losing that priveledge. 6. Hunting is a PRIVELEDGE, NOT A RIGHT. If we do not start working at it, we will lose it, if it isn't already too late. 7. We all need to keep in mind and concentrate that it is not the anti-hunting forces that we need to worry about, their mind is made up, we as a group need to present a positive, well informed, dedicated, knowledgable, and UNITED front with our common goal to convince that 80% or so majority of voters in the U.S., that hunting is essential to maintain healthy populations of much of our wildlife, both the species we hunt, and those that benifit from the management practices used to help the species we hunt. You and some others have a problem with me, and some of you have never even met me. That is your and their deal, and I can't or won't do anything to make you or anyone else like me. My concern is getting folks that enjoy hunting to start concentrating on the things we have in common and do not want to lose for either ourselves or those that follow us, and get away from the of finding things to dislike or distrust about each other.I do not like the thought of hunting dying, simply because we don't like a particular person or group of people because they or that person disagrees with us. |
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Quote: lets see, i work when i want to, hunt when i want to, fish when i want to, i sleep with a hot blonde every nite, argue with people on hunting forum on occasion.......looks like i have a fine life
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what ever you tender hearted guys.please what did i say to offend let me know.And every thing i post is not offensive please quit being so sensative.I just like to hear how every body else thinks |
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i agree with the point that no body should have been offended. its just the internet |
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yep me too,are you offended by any thing i said |
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Quote: not at all |
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Sorry guys just a thread to talk about not meant to make any body mad.You all are my hunting family no matter what i would always stand behind any of you.Just like to talk and thats what i do. |
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Did I miss the part where Old Ted was wanting the NRA President job? One another note, due to problems with some of the recent post and images of the THF(knot holes in cedar post ---enough said) our next THF Gathering is Black Tie only!
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Nawwwww that would take alllll the fun outta it, then again it might not change a thing.
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Nug is not the only fish in the stream that could represent us gun toters!!!
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