Well I called up hodgdons and they said that for any load that lists 4895 you can reduce the max charge by by 40 % and that will give you a safe reliable igniting reduced load. I followed the steps and they seemed to shoot great. The only thing I didn that isnt exactly by the book was used 130 grain nosler partitions in a load that was published for 130 grain hdy sp. I had several people that I personaly know and trust tell me that wouldnt make an issue as long as I sayed away from max loads.

matt