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LarryCopper
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Reged: 11/16/07
Posts: 128
Loc: Plano, TX
Pen Raised Quail
      #376825 - 03/05/08 07:59 AM

I have a one year old Brittany that I'd like to run on some birds a few times before taking her out for the real deal next season. So, I have a few questions.

Does anyone know where around Dallas (I'm in Plano) to find pen raised quail?

Any recommendations for a 15 month old Brittany that has only tasted quail on the end of fishing line and pointed/flushed killdeer, doves, and robins? Should I start off with having her find a pen full of birds first then move up to releasing a few at a time?

In Texas, can you shoot pen raised quail any time of year (outside of the season) like you can in Georgia? If I'm gonna buy 'em and release 'em, I'd also like to grill 'em...


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gr_elliottModerator
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Re: Pen Raised Quail [Re: LarryCopper]
      #376867 - 03/05/08 08:45 AM

you can shoot the pen raised year round in texas also.

The dog needs a good intro at first, what I do is have the dog on a checkcord and hold the bird in my hand and wiggle it around get the dog fired up and then let go and let it fly off. Hold the checkcord while the bird is flying off and let pup chase and just stop her at the end of the cord. If she does not chase the first time just repeat until she does. Then you can start letting one wing flap so that she can see it wont hurt her and do the same thing and let the bird go.

You have to be careful with the pen raised birds, those are sometimes easy for the dogs to catch and that is not what you want, you want to dog to think that they can’t catch the bird, that’s what brings out the pointing instinct. If you can get pigeons it will be a lot cheaper and they fly better and won’t get caught.

It’s a slow process, and she is at the right age to really get started. Look into the Perfection Kennels DVD’s, kinda pricey but worth every penny.


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TSU_Wildlife
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Reged: 01/11/07
Posts: 414
Loc: Stephenville/Burleson
Re: Pen Raised Quail [Re: gr_elliott]
      #376931 - 03/05/08 09:37 AM

The only place I know of is in Stephenville. Calvin Hudson owns Box-H game birds. I have contacted my professor to get his contact information. Another man is waiting on it too.

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TSU_Wildlife
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Loc: Stephenville/Burleson
Re: Pen Raised Quail [Re: TSU_Wildlife]
      #376943 - 03/05/08 09:57 AM

Calvin Hudson, Box H Gamebirds, (254) 967-1813.

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txcornhusker
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Re: Pen Raised Quail [Re: TSU_Wildlife]
      #377005 - 03/05/08 11:02 AM

Quote:

Calvin Hudson, Box H Gamebirds, (254) 967-1813.




He hasn't had birds in months!


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CCBIRDDOGMAN
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Reged: 11/16/07
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Loc: CEDAR CREEK LAKE
Re: Pen Raised Quail [Re: gr_elliott]
      #377050 - 03/05/08 11:44 AM

Quote:

you can shoot the pen raised year round in texas also.



I was told by the TP&W that it is only legal to shoot pen raised birds out of season if the land you are on is declared a bird hunting preserve (which means you pay a yearly fee) try the flying p I think the website is www.flyingp.com or something like that just google it. havent been in years but it was a nice place. trained my 1st brittany there 12-14 years ago. nice people.


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kyotee1
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Re: Pen Raised Quail [Re: CCBIRDDOGMAN]
      #377056 - 03/05/08 11:48 AM

Quote:

Quote:

you can shoot the pen raised year round in texas also.



I was told by the TP&W that it is only legal to shoot pen raised birds out of season if the land you are on is declared a bird hunting preserve (which means you pay a yearly fee) try the flying p I think the website is www.flyingp.com or something like that just google it. havent been in years but it was a nice place. trained my 1st brittany there 12-14 years ago. nice people.




This is correct...


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DoubleB20
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Reged: 05/20/07
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Loc: Benbrook, TX
Re: Pen Raised Quail [Re: CCBIRDDOGMAN]
      #377057 - 03/05/08 11:48 AM

Send me a PM, I can fix you up this Saturday, less than an hour's drive from Plano

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txcornhusker
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Re: Pen Raised Quail [Re: CCBIRDDOGMAN]
      #377060 - 03/05/08 11:54 AM

Quote:

Quote:

you can shoot the pen raised year round in texas also.



I was told by the TP&W that it is only legal to shoot pen raised birds out of season if the land you are on is declared a bird hunting preserve (which means you pay a yearly fee) try the flying p I think the website is www.flyingp.com or something like that just google it. havent been in years but it was a nice place. trained my 1st brittany there 12-14 years ago. nice people.




How much is the yearly fee?


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gr_elliottModerator
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Re: Pen Raised Quail [Re: txcornhusker]
      #377101 - 03/05/08 12:39 PM

Quote:

I was told by the TP&W that it is only legal to shoot pen raised birds out of season if the land you are on is declared a bird hunting preserve




opps...

Note to self, get rid of evidence


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danceswithquail
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Reged: 08/20/07
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Re: Pen Raised Quail [Re: gr_elliott]
      #377274 - 03/05/08 02:55 PM

The LBJ Grasslands (public land) north of Decatur used to have a place about two miles east of the Archery range that was marked properly and you could work dogs there. Might call the ranger office there and ask

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MaggieMTx
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Reged: 10/03/06
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Loc: Burkett area in Coleman County...
Re: Pen Raised Quail [Re: danceswithquail]
      #377305 - 03/05/08 03:16 PM

since u mentioned that u were interested in grilling some, get an inclosed ckicken coop of some sort, order some chicks & raise them up & just ring some necks when the grill is hot & ready

what we are thinking about doing

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ChickenWilly
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Reged: 04/12/07
Posts: 282
Loc: Plano, Tx
Re: Pen Raised Quail [Re: MaggieMTx]
      #377750 - 03/06/08 02:25 AM

Yeah I met a real nice guy that raises quail and pheasant actually last year thats not to far away I believe there hatchery is in Ferris, tx which is about 30 miles south I think, here is his info...
Nathan King
Dallas, Texas
Phone: 214-335-6184
For More Info
info@quailandpheasant.com

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CCBIRDDOGMAN
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Re: Pen Raised Quail [Re: txcornhusker]
      #377796 - 03/06/08 07:33 AM

Quote:



How much is the yearly fee?



WHEN I CHECKED ON IT, IT WAS ONLY ABOUT $65 BUT THAT WAS AT LEAST 5 YEARS AGO.


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jbe
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Reged: 01/17/08
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Loc: Graham, TX
Re: Pen Raised Quail [Re: LarryCopper]
      #378623 - 03/06/08 07:41 PM

check into Texas Indpendent Bird Hunting Assoc. at www.tibha.com, they have a lease area in Anna. They try to keep quail and pigeons on hand.

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reeltexan
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Reged: 01/30/07
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Loc: red oak - TEXAS
Re: Pen Raised Quail [Re: jbe]
      #378854 - 03/07/08 08:05 AM

It's $80 per year, from sept 1 to aug 31. Signs must be posted on the property declaring it a private bird hunting area and the birds must be banded.

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LarryCopper
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Re: Pen Raised Quail [Re: reeltexan]
      #380479 - 03/09/08 02:58 PM

Thanks to everyone for all the great information. I really appreciate it...

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BubbaTex
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Reged: 08/31/07
Posts: 34
Loc: Boerne, TX
Re: Pen Raised Quail [Re: gr_elliott]
      #401879 - 04/07/08 01:37 PM

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Look into the Perfection Kennels DVD’s, kinda pricey but worth every penny.




Perfection Kennels I just attended one of Jon and Cindy's seminars in San Antonio...worth every penny. They have a seminar coming up in Anna the end of this month sponsored by TIBHA...See if you can get in on it!

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gr_elliottModerator
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Re: Pen Raised Quail [Re: BubbaTex]
      #401960 - 04/07/08 03:26 PM

thank you for the heads up, I might try and make that one. I had planned on going to one last year but a wedding got in the way, for someone i dont even know

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BubbaTex
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Re: Pen Raised Quail [Re: gr_elliott]
      #403495 - 04/09/08 06:43 PM

I really can't reccommend them more. I have a 4 year old Weim that I entrusted to a "trainer", I took his advice and it just didn't feel right to me. But, she is my 1st dog so a trusted the advice. Needless to say, I thought the dog, who had a lot of potential, was ruined...too many bad habits. With-in two days, John and Cindy and I had her standing staunch while birds were released within 10 feet. John agreed that there is a lot of work to do, but that we could train through her problems. Hopefully we can get her FC this coming season.

Their philosophy is, no gimmicks, common sense, work hard, have fun. Their process confirmed what I thought I should have done, and will do with an upcoming pup.

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quailquest
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Reged: 12/07/07
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Loc: Fredericksburg Texas
Re: Pen Raised Quail [Re: BubbaTex]
      #404159 - 04/10/08 08:29 PM

I to atteneded that seminar.Very good people!! I'm thinking of taking my puppy to puppy bootcamp up there.

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jayb
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Re: Pen Raised Quail [Re: quailquest]
      #417423 - 05/03/08 11:25 AM

I just moved here from MD and I have a 3 month old Brittany too. looking for info on pheasants and quail. no Quail in the East! thanks for the info. Anyone wants a hunting buddy or want to run the dogs please PM me. hopefully will be moving in ASAP.

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