new world record?

Ok so I shot a huge 1800# water buffalo with my bow. I was very fortunate to have hit him in the heart and he expired very quickly with only one shot. I was told he may be a new
world record but I haven't a clue. he scores 112" total. His horns were 43"
long. a monster. anyone have at idea about the record? I absolutely don't do this for "records" but am obviously now curious.

He does look huge. What measurements did you take to come up with a total of 112? There would be four measurements for each horn, over all horn length following the outside curve of the horns, around the base next to the skull, a circumference at a point 1/4 the distance along the overall horn length, a circumference at a point 1/2 the distance along the overall horn length and a circumference at a point 3/4 the distance along the overall horn length.

If the overall horn length is 43 inches as you state then he should be bigger than 112.

we only did 4 measurements total. the length on each side and each base

records of exotics shows last years #1 to be 97" I think.

SCI shows just over 110 at #1 don't know if that's current. Great buffalo. Congrats

there's probably another 35" then...close to 140"?! wowzers.

Congrats nice buff

Definitely one of the biggest bulls I've seen come out of Texas!! Awesome!!

Never heard of that....most scoring methods only use length and base measurements for horned animals. What method are you referring to?

and with a bow!!!!! Good job

http://www.pursuetheoutdoors.com/hunting/trophy-scoring/sci/Method_3.pdf

Length of horn, circumfrance of horn at base. That's it.

At the end of the day it doesn't matter if it is a world record or a personal record. It's nice that you spent time in the outdoors with your son.

thanks guys. yeah I am no record chaser. I didn't have a clue about even scoring this type of animal. memories for sure.

Congrats, great animal, especially with a bow, nice shot!

Hey guys if you score it TGR it's the length of the horn plus 4 mass measurements. You take the length of the horn and divide it by 4 to see where you take the 2nd,3rd,4th mass measurement.

I know it's different then all of the other scoring n methods. You actually score in centimeters as well

this, i would enter it just to have the plaque and memories with the boy with the mount, congrats to the both of you.

Great animal

Awesome bow kill..congrat's on a huge bull.

Very nice bull. Mind telling what you used? Draw Weight, Arrow Weight, Broadhead? How long was your shot?

Mathews z7. Draw weight 55lbs. Easton axis 500 arrow. Interloc falcon broad heads. Shot was 32 yards. The set up seems way light I know. But I've taken all sorts of animals including this 1800lb bill and had no issues. I think it's more about shot placement. Just my view.

Here is the entrance

Well it's a new record! 116 1/8! Pretty cool!!

Awesome! Congrats on the record and thanks for the information. Nice bullet hole entry. I'm planning a Bison hunt in British Columbia next fall so was interested in your setup.

Never really had and urge to hunt those badboys but that is an awesome animal and I would be more than proud of that monster. Congratulations!!

Te bisons ribs are spread out a good amount. You should have no problem regardless of your set up.

Great shot non the less, i was hoping you would get him with the bow. Great job and congrats to the both of yall

nice

Did you actually put him on a scale?

No. The rancher said he was 2100lb a few month ago and said he probably lost 200-300 lbs this winter.

That's a few burgers. Just wondering if the rancher knew or was guessing or what. Big critter either way, congrats.

Awesome! Congrats.

Congrats on a huge trophy!!!

Where did you get him?

Nine bar ranch, Decatur Texas

Great animal.

Regardless of the record... that is flippin awesome.

Very Very Nice

Awesome bull, congrats

By the way isn't the TGR scoring method mentioned on one of the post here just a way for outfitters to get higher scores? Like 4 circumference measurements? and I know they wrap the tape when they measure Axis bucks instead of a straight tape.
Just asking, I am not all that familar with exotic scoring methods. I normally rely on my taxi do score ours

TGR scores do not use a tape for the main beam lengths on axis. You are supposed to use a wire. And if its getting wrapped around the antler then you need to get a different measurer to do it right for you.

Great bull, thanks for sharing.

Congrats! Great bull

Curtis, thanks for clarifying. The place where I shot my Axis buck this past summer wrapped the tape and it made the overall length 1-2" longer than it really was. He claimed it was the TGR scoring method.

gaharris,

I would be interested in knowing where you hunted. I am on the TGR technical committee and we try very hard to ensure that all of our scorers measure the same way. However, I want to ask for clarification, did they wrap the tape around the antler or did they use a swing point? This is two different things. TGR does use a swing point on antlered game. The allows you to measure main beam length by beginning at the lowest point on the base and then after reaching the point on the antler where the convexity of the antler changes directions you use a swing point to switch to the opposite side of the antler in order to follow the outside curve of the main beam.

Also Curtis is correct, official scores for entry in the TGR record keeping system as supposed to be taken using a cable and not a measuring tape. A cable allows scorers to follow that antler/horn as closely as possible. This is especially important when measuring knobby horned game like ibex or blackbuck. In measuring these animals the measurement is taken by following the surface of the horn, i.e. up an over the knob, down into the valley in between the knobs and back up and over the next knob.

The TGR system is based upon the one developed by Dr. Joe Burkett and is designed to give the animal full credit for the antler, horn, tusk or skulls they have grown. It does this by giving credit for the full volumetric mass displacement that can be measured. So yes, on conic horned game, i,e., buffalo, sheep, African game, etc., we do take 4 circumferences. Thus, if desired, by using geometric calculations the volume of water displacement, i.e. mass, of the horn can be calculated. In the end it gives the animal full credit for not only the length of the horns but also the mass they have grown. Thus, two animals that have horns with the same length and basal circumference measurements would tie in other scoring systems. However, in the TGR system one of them will out score the other due to the additional amount of mass they grew over their competitor, thus receiving full credit for all of the horn that they grew.

Hope this helps clarify a the confusion.

Denny

Great bull!

I've never thought about hunting these things. I pass a pasture in Jack county on the way to the land that had some in it and never paid attention but the more I look at this giant the more I'm considering trying to find one.

Yeah I was the same CMC. However, the fact that you get 500+lbs of LEAN beef from them...made perfect sense for me. gorgeous animals.