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Varmit Rifle Caliber - Input requested

Posted By: PhillCavender

Varmit Rifle Caliber - Input requested - 07/09/11 11:51 PM

Thinking about getting a varmit rifle and need input on caliber of rifle to look for, .204, .220 swift, .223, .22-250, etc. Looking for input on affordability of the rifle and the ammo. Also wanting to use the rifle to teach my daughter to shoot scoped center fire rifles. Not necesarily looking for input to actual rifles but would appreciate thoughts there as well. Thanks in advance.
Phill

Posted By: Art Wallace

Re: Varmit Rifle Caliber - Input requested - 07/10/11 12:06 AM

My first choice would be 22-250 for a Coyote Rifle. Close second would be the .223. Especially if you wanna save the pelts. Both calibers are sufficient enough for Coyotes.

Posted By: Nontypical3006

Re: Varmit Rifle Caliber - Input requested - 07/10/11 12:15 AM

If you handload, ammo cost won't be an issue on the ones you mentioned but if you're relying on factory ammo, the 223 and 22-250 would surely be more readily available at a small town country store where as the 204 and 220 swift may be a little harder to find. I have 3 of the 4 calibers you mentioned (I'm missing the 220 swift) and have no complaints about cost or performance of any of them. I shoot factory Hornady VMAX ammo out of my 204, 223, and 22-250 and they all cost about $16/box. All that said, for me it would be a toss up between the 223 and 22-250 in regards to factory ammo selection, cost, and availability.

Posted By: tj5

Re: Varmit Rifle Caliber - Input requested - 07/10/11 12:15 AM

Not sure this be a big help but here it gos

I have both the 223 and the 22-250 and like the 22-250 bit more then the 223 (coause have over 2500 rounds of 22-250)fell into a deal
For cost of a rifle there all perrty much the same.
Ranging in price from $350-$2500
Savge makes good rilfes AND cant bet there accuracy
there not the prettiest thing in the shed

For you teaching your girl to shoot id say the 223 kicks the lightest of the two but not by much
I cant say much on the 204 or the 220 have not shot them

For affordablity the 223 will be the cheapest to shoot
Hope that helps a bit

Posted By: BMD

Re: Varmit Rifle Caliber - Input requested - 07/10/11 12:43 AM

I use the swift, but use reloads finding ammo a little tough for factory ammo and the cartridge being rimmed sucks, 22-250 is a better choice for what it sounds like you are looking for.

Posted By: PhillCavender

Re: Varmit Rifle Caliber - Input requested - 07/10/11 02:06 AM

Thanks for the input! Comparing ballistics on the 22-250 & 223 it appears the 22-250 is fast flatter and has more energy. I will start there.

Posted By: jrbb00

Re: Varmit Rifle Caliber - Input requested - 07/10/11 02:28 AM

Any of what you mentioned would do good. I personally like the 22-250 been shooting it for about 14 years with no problems.

Posted By: BMD

Re: Varmit Rifle Caliber - Input requested - 07/10/11 02:39 AM

Good plan

Posted By: calcreek

Re: Varmit Rifle Caliber - Input requested - 07/10/11 03:28 AM

220 swift is a smoking little round. However I'd go with the 223 or 22-250 if you don't reload. 204 is a good round as well.

Posted By: Reggie

Re: Varmit Rifle Caliber - Input requested - 07/10/11 03:54 AM

I purchased a .223 simply because ammo is cheaper. A 22-250 is a great round but since I don't reload and found a killer deal I pulled the trigger on Savage .223

Reggie

Posted By: Gravytrain

Re: Varmit Rifle Caliber - Input requested - 07/10/11 05:57 PM

I would get a .223, I hear the 22-250 round is tough on barrel life (more so in a cheaper rifle I would think). If you do get a .223, try to get one with 1:7", 1:8" or slowest 1:9" twist so you can run bullet weights into the mid 70gr range if you want to.

Posted By: jskin

Re: Varmit Rifle Caliber - Input requested - 07/11/11 03:51 AM

Ive been using the 22-250. Lost a yote this winter with well placed shot but all others have been no issue. Little to no recoil, great for a kid. Ive been running a Weatherby Vanguard, they are pretty cheap and I have had no prolems.

Posted By: 6mm284

Re: Varmit Rifle Caliber - Input requested - 07/11/11 04:01 AM

22-250 all the way. If you are going to shoot factory ammo, you would have to shoot thousands of rounds to burn on out. It is a great round for most anything in Texas. I have taken several deer and alot of hogs with one.

Posted By: TX4Ever

Re: Varmit Rifle Caliber - Input requested - 07/11/11 12:33 PM

.223

Posted By: Spent Brass

Re: Varmit Rifle Caliber - Input requested - 07/11/11 12:41 PM

.223 will get the varmints all the way up to deer with the right loads. That's what my daughters are learning on too.

Posted By: Capt. Andrew

Re: Varmit Rifle Caliber - Input requested - 07/11/11 12:47 PM

i have a .204 and a .223 the .204 has no kick at all and shoots really flat.... and im selling it .. hint hint haha

Posted By: jetcycles

Re: Varmit Rifle Caliber - Input requested - 07/11/11 02:09 PM

I have a CZ527 Varmint in .223 and I love the rifle and the round. There's a large selection of good .223 ammo and you can find it almost anywhere. +1 to the budget friendly Savage rifles too, they're good guns right out of the box.

Posted By: redchevy

Re: Varmit Rifle Caliber - Input requested - 07/11/11 04:46 PM

Id go 223. I have one and love it, shot lots of varmits with it right on up to deer and hogs with no problems.

Posted By: texaspatriot.308

Re: Varmit Rifle Caliber - Input requested - 07/12/11 02:26 AM

.22-250, what more can you say. outdoes, excedes the .223 and .204, and is a helluva bigger game round. used for antelope up north and in Australia for even bigger game, low recoil makes you a better shot.

Posted By: bass461

Re: Varmit Rifle Caliber - Input requested - 07/12/11 03:04 PM

.223

Posted By: Art Wallace

Re: Varmit Rifle Caliber - Input requested - 07/12/11 03:09 PM

I'm a big fan of .223, but I'm biased as I'm active duty Army. .22-250 is also a great caliber to predator hunt with.

Posted By: gogburn

Re: Varmit Rifle Caliber - Input requested - 07/12/11 05:11 PM

.223 so she can see her shots. The 22-250 has enough recoil to pull your eye off the target so you can't tell where the hit/miss was.

Posted By: Txkiller

Re: Varmit Rifle Caliber - Input requested - 07/12/11 05:23 PM

.22-250

Posted By: JMC Outdoors

Re: Varmit Rifle Caliber - Input requested - 07/12/11 05:24 PM

+ 1 for killer, all around favorite is 22-250.

Posted By: cattle69

Re: Varmit Rifle Caliber - Input requested - 07/12/11 09:27 PM

22-250

Posted By: bowassin

Re: Varmit Rifle Caliber - Input requested - 07/13/11 01:16 AM

22.250

Posted By: Payne

Re: Varmit Rifle Caliber - Input requested - 07/13/11 01:23 AM

22-250

Posted By: PhillCavender

Re: Varmit Rifle Caliber - Input requested - 07/13/11 01:44 AM

Looks like we have a winner! 22-250!

Posted By: Believer

Re: Varmit Rifle Caliber - Input requested - 07/13/11 02:28 PM

If you want to save the hides then go small and use light bullets .17/.204/.223/5.56/220 swift.

If you don't care about the hides then go 22/250/6mm/6.5mm/243/308 lots of energy to reach way out there.

Dave

Posted By: dogcatcher

Re: Varmit Rifle Caliber - Input requested - 07/13/11 05:18 PM

Think about a 243, a good starter rifle, good for varmints and larger game. Ammo available everywhere, and at a decent price.

Posted By: PhillCavender

Re: Varmit Rifle Caliber - Input requested - 07/13/11 07:26 PM

Dogcatcher
You make a good point about the 243. That is ultimately what I think I will get her to routinely shoot. I also have a 25-06 that she could shoot. Right now I want something with less kick to teach her with. I have access to a 22mag bolt gun that I will use first then graduate to the 22-250 then to a 243 or the 25-06.
Thanks for the help!
Phill

Posted By: HICKORY12

Re: Varmit Rifle Caliber - Input requested - 07/13/11 07:59 PM

I dont know how old your daughter is, but I started my grandson with a 22. Hornet at 5 yrs old. When he was 8, I got him a 220 swift which he still shoots now at 13. There is very little difference in the 220 swift and the 22-250 so either is a good choice for older kids. I like the swift because I can load 52 gr bullets to leave the barrel about the same speed as 40 gr in the 22-250. texas

Posted By: tth_40

Re: Varmit Rifle Caliber - Input requested - 07/13/11 08:02 PM

I love me some .22 Hornet, was the first rifle I ever killed a deer with and I started my kids out with it as well.

Posted By: furdown

Re: Varmit Rifle Caliber - Input requested - 07/14/11 03:17 AM

If you like the swifts performance and reload go 22-250 ackley improved, same performance as the swift with no rimmed case. I would say 223, 22-250, or 22-250ai and leave the swift out due to being rimmed, not bashing the swift it's good just rimmed.

Posted By: RemRug

Re: Varmit Rifle Caliber - Input requested - 07/14/11 01:39 PM

Have 2 .223's and one 22.250. Hand's down 22.250. Really accurate, flat trajectory!

Posted By: Texpppr

Re: Varmit Rifle Caliber - Input requested - 07/14/11 01:53 PM

Ammo sure can be cheap for practice with a .223

Posted By: spencer451

Re: Varmit Rifle Caliber - Input requested - 07/14/11 07:21 PM

22-250 all i use for everything killed a pig with mine last night

Posted By: vanguard

Re: Varmit Rifle Caliber - Input requested - 07/15/11 12:16 PM

the 22-250 is a bad mama jama but whatever the -250 can do at 300 yds the .223 will do at 200 yds plus the .223 ammo is a lot cheaper and a bit quieter.
Its hard to beat a 17 hmr for young ones to learn on though, the 17 acts like a centerfire with respects to accuracy at 100 and even 200 yds with no recoil and a very low report and ammo is really cheap compared to a centerfire, plus you have an excuse to get you one, its for the kids of course, hehehe.

Posted By: prickly pear

Re: Varmit Rifle Caliber - Input requested - 07/17/11 09:17 PM

22-250

Posted By: abilene3006hh

Re: Varmit Rifle Caliber - Input requested - 07/17/11 09:29 PM

204

Posted By: Capt. Andrew

Re: Varmit Rifle Caliber - Input requested - 07/17/11 10:14 PM

Originally Posted By: abilene3006hh
204

there ya go! should have it in 2-3 days

Posted By: YankeeATX

Re: Varmit Rifle Caliber - Input requested - 07/21/11 01:51 AM

.223

Posted By: silverphoenix

Re: Varmit Rifle Caliber - Input requested - 07/21/11 02:37 AM

.223--easy to find and only $4 a box of 20 if you buy wolf wpa. I'd say it's the most affordable choice and it's adequate to suit those needs

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