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trinity river bottom pigs

Posted By: drop ducks like rain

trinity river bottom pigs - 01/04/11 11:20 PM

yall ever hunted the trinity river bottom for pigs? my buddy saw on the news that the pigs that they have been catching and have caught 140 in the past month. i was wondering what the regulations were for hunting there. what guns can i use, can you spotlight, where the boundaries are and what not.

Posted By: Real World Outdoors

Re: trinity river bottom pigs - 01/05/11 12:51 AM

i knw me and my buddy goy in trouble one time for doin it

Posted By: NacHunter

Re: trinity river bottom pigs - 01/05/11 03:22 AM

Depends on where exactly you want to hunt. There are feral hogs from the Lake Lewisville dam/spillway all the way downriver to I-20. There are areas where private businesses own land that backs up to the river, golf courses, all sorts of stuff.

Much of it is owned by the state since its in the floodplain, other pieces are controlled by the Corps of Engineers.

Posted By: headshot25-06

Re: trinity river bottom pigs - 01/10/11 12:27 AM

unless you lease the land, by law you have to use a shotgun between the levies. I personally know about this i regularley hunt between 34 and malloy bridge road and take a lot of hogs. i have permission for over 6800 acres, and when i go down to the river and the shotgun is all i,ll take any more

Posted By: NacHunter

Re: trinity river bottom pigs - 01/10/11 01:28 AM

Originally Posted by headshot25-06
unless you lease the land, by law you have to use a shotgun between the levies. I personally know about this i regularley hunt between 34 and malloy bridge road and take a lot of hogs. i have permission for over 6800 acres, and when i go down to the river and the shotgun is all i,ll take any more


Who makes the shotgun vs long gun rifle rule?

In Dallas County I imagine that even a shotgun would be off limits. Hell, even a bow would get you in trouble.

This I was told was just north of I-20 on the Trinity which is not far from where you hunt



A police officer told me that the river south of I-20 is controlled by members of the Aryan Nation. They have a prison gang compound of some kind down there with boat docks that are on the river. I was told to never ever venture down there by that officer under any circumstances for any reason. They call those folks the "Riverpeople". This would be around Dowdy Ferry. I never checked into the story but he told me that the FBI went out to the property a couple years ago and drained a stock tank looking for bodies.
Posted By: headshot25-06

Re: trinity river bottom pigs - 01/10/11 01:57 AM

the trinity river authority makes the rules on the trinity, you can lease some bottom land from them, and NO there are not any a.n. down there there is a group of guys that has land leasrd to shoot their class 3 weapons. they call thereselfs the river rats. the docks they talk about are old locks that run down river; locks 4,5,6 are from below malloy bridge rd. to beltline. the boundry from dallas co. to ellis kaufman line is 1.1mile from the bridge on malloybridge rd.

Posted By: NacHunter

Re: trinity river bottom pigs - 01/10/11 02:29 AM

Here are a couple stories about the Aryan Nazi people that live there

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/metro/4176821.html

http://www.dallasobserver.com/2007-11-29/news/love-among-the-ruinous/print/

Quote:
He says he laid Clark down in the backseat and drove him to a friend's house near Dowdy Ferry Road, where he stole a tarp and some chain-link fencing. He says he rolled Clark, who was still alive, in the tarp and then rolled him in the fencing and used a winch to hoist his body into the back of a truck. He says he then drove to a pond in the Trinity River bottoms and swam Clark out to the middle, where he slit his throat and let him sink. He had previously tied cinderblocks to his body.



I don't want to end up wrapped up in chain link fence at the bottom of a pond. Police officer told me that the group is still there, one of the very few spots on that part of the Trinity that is private property.

Posted By: dieselgeek

Re: trinity river bottom pigs - 01/10/11 04:05 PM

I go down there quite often, but I doubt they want anything to do w/ me. If they do I guess they better come loaded haha.

Posted By: Hunter4life°

Re: trinity river bottom pigs - 01/10/11 05:10 PM

I hunt right along beltline to malloy bridge river strip and catch big boars everytime with my dogs we carry knifes only im a leaser on the gunrange and the only people we have problems with is the tresspassers im seein and traps that were stolen if you dont have a key to beltline levy stay out if u are on the levy without permission on someones property u may be found in a pond gypsie people own around trinity and have threatend us before when we were chasin dogs to round them up be carefull u never know what u will find or run into in the bottoms belive me born and raised on this river and it can be deadly.

Posted By: hrt4me

Re: trinity river bottom pigs - 01/10/11 06:15 PM

Interesting

Posted By: NacHunter

Re: trinity river bottom pigs - 01/10/11 07:04 PM

Originally Posted By: Hunter4life
I hunt right along beltline to malloy bridge river strip and catch big boars everytime with my dogs we carry knifes only im a leaser on the gunrange and the only people we have problems with is the tresspassers im seein and traps that were stolen if you dont have a key to beltline levy stay out if u are on the levy without permission on someones property u may be found in a pond gypsie people own around trinity and have threatend us before when we were chasin dogs to round them up be carefull u never know what u will find or run into in the bottoms belive me born and raised on this river and it can be deadly.


Who do you contact to get a key to drive on the levees? Are you talking about the levees near the wastewater plant south of 20?

I'm not familiar with that area. Most of what I know of that area is what I was told from a couple friends(one being the guy with the youtube video) or the Dallas Marshal I know who is on the illegal dump team patrol and knows all the backroads and trails down there.

Posted By: Hunter4life°

Re: trinity river bottom pigs - 01/11/11 02:45 AM

Well the key is not to drive the levee it is for the gun range we hunt the land below it the levee is acually off limits and from post oak to beltline it is the Greenbelt nature preserve it is game warden country unless u have some really good explanation you better not be accidently lost he hears that all the time I hunt our provided land lease fee is 200 or 250 a year and you can shoot up to class 3 weapon and the occasional pig. I grew up just mins from beltline and had lots of good times there with family & friends if interested contact micky at ammo depot in caddo mills tx off of hwy 30 east.

Posted By: trinityriverguy

Re: trinity river bottom pigs - 01/11/11 11:33 PM

Hi guys first post, I have several acres on the Trinity River Bottom from 34 north, it is all private land and would really appreciate it if yall could help with the poachers, we are very active in trying to catch them from 34 through ferris I am not aware of any public land and all of the ranchers are trying to catch these guys who are running dogs. Thanks for yalls help.

Posted By: dieselgeek

Re: trinity river bottom pigs - 01/11/11 11:34 PM

LOL@TROLL

Posted By: Hunter4life°

Re: trinity river bottom pigs - 01/12/11 12:42 AM

Well its kind of hard to stop doggers when another ranch owner wants them gone and the other ranch owner allows the doggers to catch the pigs im a fellow dogger sometimes our dogs get into a good hurd and travel we dont mean to cross but our dogs are stopin pigs. I dont carry a gun and I dont take what is not mine just pig population management is all I do on the other hand u do get people that park on the road and go but not all doggers are like that if I dont have the land to hunt im stayin home I really like workin dogs and wish I had more spots to pull some monsters out. my crandall river spot I own 200 acres its close to u trinity river guy it could be me u seen fella my land is behind the golf course on 1390 but I have all my neighbors permission.

Posted By: trinityriverguy

Re: trinity river bottom pigs - 01/12/11 03:02 PM

I completely understand the issue with dogs running across fences, and yes the ranch behind the golf course used to be one in which we had trouble, now I am on the Ellis county side, but if the dogs run through one of my deer hunters set up then that wont work for me, after deer season is a different story, all it takes is a phone call. We trap run dogs, and shoot out of helicopters to keep them gone. If a dog hunt is going and the pig runs and they run onto our place I just want to know who it is, if I dont know then the dogs will be dispatched on sight, the dogs that came through in bow season were shot on sight, by a bow, then the hunters never came within sight and left, we try to work with anyone but if we dont know who they are then they are tresspassing!

Posted By: Hunter4life°

Re: trinity river bottom pigs - 01/12/11 07:05 PM

Well fella unless ur name is jd or ricky you aint had [censored] behind no golf course that I cant run first off I own the only other part behind them and i understand about the hunters but not all dogs are free runers mine have name plates and I wouldnt brag to loud about killin dogs like that u dont know who is readin this stuff there was a dog killed in tyler area and the hunters seen the landowner kill the dog a week later the home barn and all of his stuff was on fire im not sayin someone will but there are some crazy people on that river and they will put u on the bottom of that river for dog killin u may be a big shot around there but they will surprise u in the dead of the night and no one will know what happend.

Posted By: NacHunter

Re: trinity river bottom pigs - 01/12/11 07:45 PM

Originally Posted By: trinityriverguy
the dogs that came through in bow season were shot on sight, by a bow


You guys really shot dogs with bows? I'm not talking about the ethics of shooting someone's dog, I just wonder how you can get close enough to get a good shot on something that small which is probably moving at a good clip. I'd be interested to hear more about that. You have a Milkbone feeder? Call 'em in close with a squeaky toy or a tennis ball? Smear some peanut butter on a tree trunk?

Posted By: trinityriverguy

Re: trinity river bottom pigs - 01/12/11 08:18 PM

The ranch I had was the southland so yes I did have property behind the golfcourse off of 1390 the current owner was one of my customers, and his name is not ricky or jd, so maybe you are talking about the golf course closer to crandall, not sure there. As far the dogs, as long as we dont know whose they are then they should not be there. The hunter who got them, was told to do what he had to, were they running? no clue I never ask, I hope no one is coming to burn our stuff down, lol, I would imagine we can take care of our stuff. I was only hoping someone on here may know the guys who keep showing up on our cameras, or hear of guys running dogs down on the place, we only want to know who it is.

Posted By: NacHunter

Re: trinity river bottom pigs - 01/12/11 08:37 PM

If you have pics of the guys on game cams, post them here!

Posted By: RICK O'SHAY

Re: trinity river bottom pigs - 01/12/11 09:00 PM

Prison gangs? River rats? River people? Aryan Nazis???

GIVE ME A BREAK! Sounds more like, "It's a great place to hunt... we better make up some stories so other people will be afraid to hunt there!"

Maybe I'll just go hunt it and get the heck outta there if I hear banjo music...

Posted By: Hunter4life°

Re: trinity river bottom pigs - 01/12/11 09:07 PM

I am really close to southland my land starts were the golf course ends and next to me is a group of doctors that own all the land to the river and lease it for farming 1390 is the road that comes in to my place and I have never crossed another hunter but post pics of them I may know who it is if so we will stop your problem quick I love hunting and dont wanna see dogs killed and sportsmans fighting the deal is pigs are getting bad we should all come together and help manage this problem no one steppin on toes just makin friends and showin off dogs catchin monster pigs and communication between landowners I have acres upon acres to hunt and im up for new aspots if allowed.

Posted By: trinityriverguy

Re: trinity river bottom pigs - 01/12/11 09:50 PM

I agree we are just wanting to get the pigs out however we need to either be there or at least know whats going on, the place we have is full of those silly things and even with choppers we wont get rid of them just thin them out. I will get the pics from the trail cams tonight and post some of them and see if you know them. On 34 Ellis County side of river for a few miles north, thanks for your help.

Posted By: headshot25-06

Re: trinity river bottom pigs - 01/12/11 09:50 PM

well said h4life

Posted By: Reggie

Re: trinity river bottom pigs - 01/13/11 12:14 AM

Seems to me all the landowners need to get together and come up with solutions together. Pigs and dogs don't follow no boundaries. Everybody get together and come up with a game plan.

Reggie

Posted By: TEXASTRAPPER

Re: trinity river bottom pigs - 01/13/11 12:18 AM

Watch out for these guys too. www.trinityriverbears.com

Screw all the river rats and aryan nation.

Posted By: Hunter4life°

Re: trinity river bottom pigs - 01/13/11 01:10 AM

Well guys I was born and raised on trinity river from mickys place off beltline stretch to 34 and 1390 there is alot of weird things in the bottoms im not sayin its no gangs ghost or bears but friends some of them boys were born raised and bathed in that river and when someone passes there home or property they act kinda crazy but we are crossin and as a fellow dogger as said we try to keep dog away from boundry lines but the dog is doin its job and not askin directions on were to go its our job to retrive our dogs and pig and at the end of the day me and my fellow hay farmers and landowners are happy they moved I can run dogs twice a month at my place and ill push them buggers 4 countys over if we could have a big landowner round up and make some release forms get them notarized cause with swine prices up im willin to do it free and meet good people while im at it over the years I have meet alot of good farmers and when u help them they help you and that is how I was raised.

Posted By: dieselgeek

Re: trinity river bottom pigs - 01/13/11 02:16 AM

wow, all these hogs so close to Dallas. Hunter I've already told ya, if you need help LMK. I love that it's so close to home

Posted By: Hunter4life°

Re: trinity river bottom pigs - 01/13/11 04:27 AM

I can get u in there and get u one with.the dogs

Posted By: LFD2037

Re: trinity river bottom pigs - 01/19/11 04:09 AM

I know for a fact there are Aryan's down there. They did get raided awhile back but they are still there in their trailer home compound.

Posted By: ArkansasTraveler

Re: trinity river bottom pigs - 01/19/11 06:44 AM

periods bro....use them periods

Posted By: foxtrot400

Re: trinity river bottom pigs - 01/19/11 05:19 PM

Originally Posted By: kar0154
periods bro....use them periods


Posted By: West Fork Armory

Re: trinity river bottom pigs - 01/21/11 06:13 AM

This could be the biggest bunch of BS I've read on here! lol Sounds like people don't want other people hunting the public property that they hunt!

Posted By: West Fork Armory

Re: trinity river bottom pigs - 01/21/11 06:15 AM

Be sure to look out for Big Foot I heard he will but you at the bottom of the river too! Lots of chupas too! I also saw some aliens down there and they shot at me with laser guns but the aryans got them because they were a different race. This post fits in well with the previous ones.

Posted By: Nolenhunter

Re: trinity river bottom pigs - 12/13/13 04:12 AM

Hey how y'all doin I'm a resident of combine not far from trinity on Malloy bridge lookin for a place to hunt hogs any options?
Posted By: Texaslawman

Re: trinity river bottom pigs - 12/13/13 05:37 AM

I'll start off with I have worked this area in a law enforcement capacity for 20 year's. I also work with the Wardens on a regular basis. Now during this time I've come to know most of the private landowners. Also I have permission to hunt, keys and combinations to gates, and do hunt hogs on a lot of property in unincorporated Dallas county on a very regular basis. Listening to a large percentage of what is typed above will get you in trouble you do not want or need.

North of I-20 on the Trinity river there is a small section of privately owned land. The owners hunt it and do not want others hunting it. Every thing past this small strip is within the city Limits of Dallas, and either owned by the city or part of a city park or county preserve No Hunting Here is the link to Dallas county Preserve's it gives you maps of all the locations and the rules are very clearly detailed.
http://www.dallascounty.org/department/plandev/locations/11-river-bend.php

In case you somehow miss the rules I copied and pasted the for you hunting includes knives and dogs.


Restricted Uses

Hunting and the use of alcohol, motorized vehicles, fireworks, or weapons are not permitted within the Preser
ve.


Now to answer some questions from above post directly and comment on some of the statements.



"I hunt right along beltline to malloy bridge river strip and catch big boars everytime with my dogs we carry knifes only im a leaser on the gunrange and the only people we have problems with is the tresspassers im seein and traps that were stolen if you dont have a key to beltline levy stay out if u are on the levy without permission on someones property u may be found in a pond gypsie people own around trinity and have threatend us before when we were chasin dogs to round them up be carefull u never know what u will find or run into in the bottoms belive me born and raised on this river and it can be deadly." Micky's place does not run the entire length between Beltline and Malloy in fact it only runs about one quarter of the distance. Once you pass that you are in the Riverbend Preserve and hunting trapping illegally. The property on the west border belongs to Trinity Materials and they do not even let their own employees fish or hunt.

"Well its kind of hard to stop doggers when another ranch owner wants them gone and the other ranch owner allows the doggers to catch the pigs im a fellow dogger sometimes our dogs get into a good hurd and travel we dont mean to cross but our dogs are stopin pigs." [You are responsible for your dogs they cannot cross boundaries or fence lines where you do not have permission. If they do so you are hunting and trespassing. This practice and thought process is one of the main things that gives doggers a bad reputation. "I dont carry a gun and I dont take what is not mine just pig population management." Gun, knife, bow, dogs, bare feet and hands its still trespassing. How you try to justify it to yourself does not count. It would be no different than a man walking into your house taking your beer and watching your TV without your permission.

"I wouldnt brag to loud about killin dogs like that u dont know who is readin this stuff there was a dog killed in tyler area and the hunters seen the landowner kill the dog a week later the home barn and all of his stuff was on fire im not sayin someone will but there are some crazy people on that river and they will put u on the bottom of that river for dog killin u may be a big shot around there but they will surprise u in the dead of the night and no one will know what happend" I would take some of your own advise about bragging to loud. Because you are exactly right you never know who is watching and reading this stuff. Bright daylight or dead of the night. Night vision and thermal leave little dark for POS to hide.

Have a nice day and be safe out there!
Posted By: Buckenvy

Re: trinity river bottom pigs - 12/13/13 10:45 AM

popcorn
Posted By: karma

Re: trinity river bottom pigs - 12/13/13 12:48 PM

Hey dog hunter/trespasser: your dog's safety are the least of your worries if you are using your river lease key to access trinity river bottoms to hunt at night. Mickey doesn't let people hunt at night or during the day. The lease rules are clear about that. But in the past we have arranged permission to use the lease at night to gather shock/recoil data on thermal imagers and night vision. Most of our work doesn't involve an AR or bolt gun from WalMart if we are testing down there.. So when we lay down sustained fire with an area weapon like a M249, M60, or M2HB for several belts at a time I hope you have not chosen the same night to run dogs down range AT THE MACHINE GUN RANGE. Typically we fire into both the river berm and into the range cut out of the woods- its probably pretty exciting to be south of our location at that point in time.


Good luck.
Posted By: Ranch Dawg

Re: trinity river bottom pigs - 12/13/13 03:33 PM

Lol
Posted By: Cast

Re: trinity river bottom pigs - 12/13/13 03:40 PM

WOW! Be very afraid.
Posted By: Black02z28

Re: trinity river bottom pigs - 12/13/13 04:24 PM

Very humorous thread, lol.
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: trinity river bottom pigs - 12/13/13 05:59 PM

This is like watching a train wreck, just cant turn away from it.
Posted By: East

Re: trinity river bottom pigs - 12/13/13 06:18 PM

wtf This thread is 2 years old
Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN

Re: trinity river bottom pigs - 12/13/13 06:22 PM

lol Your right. Damn Greenhorn. LMAO
Posted By: Texaslawman

Re: trinity river bottom pigs - 12/13/13 06:50 PM

Yes the thread is two years old but the information i provided is current. Someone is obviously searching and looking for info and brought it to the front yesterday. Sure enough we are going to catch someone trespassing and poaching saying it said I could on the Internet. Better to stop it here.
Posted By: Navasot

Re: trinity river bottom pigs - 12/13/13 06:52 PM

Originally Posted By: karma
Hey dog hunter/trespasser: your dog's safety are the least of your worries if you are using your river lease key to access trinity river bottoms to hunt at night. Mickey doesn't let people hunt at night or during the day. The lease rules are clear about that. But in the past we have arranged permission to use the lease at night to gather shock/recoil data on thermal imagers and night vision. Most of our work doesn't involve an AR or bolt gun from WalMart if we are testing down there.. So when we lay down sustained fire with an area weapon like a M249, M60, or M2HB for several belts at a time I hope you have not chosen the same night to run dogs down range AT THE MACHINE GUN RANGE. Typically we fire into both the river berm and into the range cut out of the woods- its probably pretty exciting to be south of our location at that point in time.


Good luck.


So your saying someone actually owns a section or a public river? or just the land that surrounds it..?

Wondering how you got permission to discharge a firearm into or across a public river....

But iv never been up that way either... lol yall should try your river adventure about 10miles south of HWY 21

Oh and when you see the sign that says the shoals go knock on one of those trailers and ask for directions
Posted By: Texaslawman

Re: trinity river bottom pigs - 12/13/13 07:43 PM

No he's saying someone owns the property up to the river. It's a private shooting range where they pay a fee for a years access to shoot. The owner prohibits most from going down there after dark for this exact reason. When these guys go out there testing their equipment they do not want some yahoo trespassing getting shot. It's a safety issue.
Posted By: hunthard

Re: trinity river bottom pigs - 12/13/13 09:27 PM

Best thread in awhile.
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