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Castrating Boars

Posted By: Erich

Castrating Boars - 04/26/10 06:27 PM

i've heard that you can castrate feral boars and then either raise them or turn them loose and that they will put on a lot more weight and will improve the quality of the meat. is this true? has anyone done it? any advice on how to do it? does it do any good to castrate one that is already an adult age animal? or does it have to be done when they are young.

seems like it'd be a difficult task, but seems like there's enough folks out there that do it. was just wondering if it was worth the hassle.

Erich

Posted By: bigtuna

Re: Castrating Boars - 04/26/10 06:57 PM

yeah they call those barr hogs. When they are castrated they supposedly loose interest in mating and just eat so they get massive. Not sure about how it affects the meat. I guess you would have to use a tranquilizer to neuter them but not sure.

Posted By: Texaswolf

Re: Castrating Boars - 04/26/10 07:10 PM

It gets their mind of @ss and puts it on Grass.....I knew a guy on our old lease who would catch them and put a tight rubber band around their Nutz and they would eventualy fall off due to poor circulation.....?????

Not sure because I never saw it done but at the time, it made sense.....

Posted By: elliscountyhog

Re: Castrating Boars - 04/26/10 07:17 PM

We cut 4 boars this weekend and yes it will cause them to grow faster and bigger with bigger tusk and most of all it shortens there home range up. Just make a small slice and pop em out and cut off then use cut and heal and they are good to go.

Posted By: deewayne2003

Re: Castrating Boars - 04/26/10 07:19 PM

This would turn the hog into a "barrow" hog which is what pork producers do; it is best done at a young age if you are gonna feed them out for pork.

Texas A&M is doing a study with boar hogs in the TDCJ hog farms to see if they can castrate mature boars and see if it will improve meat quality of those boars so they can then be slaughtered.

Posted By: ccbaseball

Re: Castrating Boars - 04/26/10 07:23 PM

haha sounds funny but then again point of getting rid of them is so they are destructive and dont compete with deer.cool info tho

Posted By: CFR

Re: Castrating Boars - 04/26/10 07:24 PM

A common practice here in Florida is to trap them, cut them, and then let them loose. The result is a better quality meat, bigger hogs, and bigger teeth, as they do not fight as much and break them off.

Posted By: yanta61

Re: Castrating Boars - 04/26/10 07:27 PM

Originally Posted By: Erich
i've heard that you can castrate feral boars and then either raise them or turn them loose and that they will put on a lot more weight and will improve the quality of the meat. is this true?

yes they will put on more weight....they will not have a musky smell to them.

Originally Posted By: Erich
has anyone done it?


yes...we did a few and raised them in a pen.

Originally Posted By: Erich
any advice on how to do it?


sharp knife or razor.......hold pig down, slice open sack, pull ball our, cut vein.....

Originally Posted By: Erich
does it do any good to castrate one that is already an adult age animal? or does it have to be done when they are young.

not sure on the big ones but if you try it please video it....it would be cool to see some one try and castrate a 250# boar....

we call cut boars "dog killers" because there tusk get very long because they never fight with other boars for the ladies...

Posted By: ccbaseball

Re: Castrating Boars - 04/26/10 07:37 PM

someone please post a video of this lol......awesome way to grow a huge boar

Posted By: BOBO the Clown

Re: Castrating Boars - 04/26/10 08:11 PM

Just a thought.... but its illegal to release hogs unless to a "Certified by the TAHC" holding facility, or a game ranch that is TAHC approved. Its also illegal to keep wild hogs over 24 hours and feed them out.

Posted By: Closed Traverse

Re: Castrating Boars - 04/26/10 09:59 PM

Should I stock feral hogs?
No, feral hogs are prolific breeders and can cause considerable damage. They can destroy habitat, and compete directly or indirectly with all other species of wildlife. While many hunters might like hogs as part of the lease, the adverse effects often counter any potential economic incentives. TPWD considers feral hogs nuisance animals and does not support the introduction of feral hogs. Feral hogs are considered an under-utilized resource on many Texas ranges.

The Texas Animal Health Commission has enacted regulations requiring all feral hogs in Texas to be tested and certified to be disease free before being released into the wild for whatever purposes. They may however, be legally transported to slaughter or livestock sale for slaughter. If stocking is desired, only castrated males (barrows) should be considered. Because they cannot reproduce, they will grow larger, fatter and often produce larger tusks.


from tpwd...


http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/huntwild/wild/nuisance/feral_hogs/

Posted By: yanta61

Re: Castrating Boars - 04/26/10 10:01 PM

Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Its also illegal to keep wild hogs over 24 hours and feed them out.


where is this written?

this is from an article off of the TPWD (same article that brandon posted above)
"Live trapping enables the individual to harvest the animal, fatten it up, or sell it"





Posted By: LoneTrapper

Re: Castrating Boars - 04/26/10 10:12 PM

you can keep feral swine on a trailer that has an escape proof pen for up to 7 days without being a registered holding facility.
cutting boars and then releasing them may help them get fatter but they will still destroy crops and land so why you would want to do that i dont know? any feral swine that is trapped cannot be transported and intentionally re-released on a property that they did not come off. email tahc and they will give you all the laws and regulations on feral swine.

Posted By: cwhite25

Re: Castrating Boars - 04/26/10 10:31 PM

Yes it make them grow fat and have big teeth. Takes the rank taste out of them. I have ran my dogs on places where the rancher wants you to barr every boar for lease hunters and paid hunters so they will have big teethed hogs to shoot. Alot of high fence places do that. The guys I ran with would mark the ears a certain way each year. We caught a couple that were already barred and they would say "yeah I caught that barr 2 years ago". Was pretty cool.

Posted By: SingleShot85

Re: Castrating Boars - 04/26/10 10:36 PM

castrating wild pigs.......complete wast of time. If you were to get some piglets and do it, you'd have some 2-300lbs pigs in a few months. Of course you'd have to deal with feeding it and the like. You will not want his pen anywhere near you, cuz it's going to smell like s**T.

Just shoot them and use lots of seasoning and marinade cheaper and smells better.

Releasing captured wild pigs...... bang pointless

Posted By: kyotee1

Re: Castrating Boars - 04/26/10 10:40 PM

Originally Posted By: yanta61
Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Its also illegal to keep wild hogs over 24 hours and feed them out.


where is this written?

this is from an article off of the TPWD (same article that brandon posted above)
"Live trapping enables the individual to harvest the animal, fatten it up, or sell it"





Here you go:
http://www.tahc.state.tx.us/animal_health/swine/feral_swine.pdf

Posted By: BOBO the Clown

Re: Castrating Boars - 04/26/10 10:52 PM

Kyotee beat me to it thank you.

TAHC are some great people but they don't mess around

Posted By: SingleShot85

Re: Castrating Boars - 04/26/10 10:53 PM

I could be wrong but what I read doesn't say you can't capture and keep them it says you can't move LIVE pigs. Seems if you trapped some on your ranch/ lease and fed them out on site then slaughter them you'd be in compliance.

I still wouldn't do it, HEB is much easier and cheaper considering travel, feed, castration procedure,bla bla bla bla

Posted By: Closed Traverse

Re: Castrating Boars - 04/27/10 12:49 AM

"The TAHC’s regulations apply when LIVE WILD
HOGS are moved from the premises where they
were trapped or captured."

http://www.tahc.state.tx.us/animal_health/swine/feral_swine.pdf


So they dont apply if i catch em and keep em at the same place?

So for example, i could catch a buncha boars, cut em. and then release the barrows as long as i keep em on the same piece of property?

Or i could catch some hogs, keep em at the same place and feed em out then let em go, or cut em up?

Posted By: dgilbert

Re: Castrating Boars - 04/27/10 01:13 AM

I can't get pass, just kill them all.

Posted By: BOBO the Clown

Re: Castrating Boars - 04/27/10 01:41 AM

Brandon..... best thing to do is call tahc for first hand
advice.

Posted By: Closed Traverse

Re: Castrating Boars - 04/27/10 01:44 AM

i dont need advice, i kill all mine....

im just wondering for the sake of discussion.

Posted By: big-al

Re: Castrating Boars - 04/27/10 02:15 AM

Get arope in thier mouth and tie him to a tree or post.He will sit thier and pull back against the rope.My FIL used to raise em used to put rings in thier nose sothey would'nt dig.He also castrated some boars that weiged anywhere from 800 to 1000#.

Posted By: SingleShot85

Re: Castrating Boars - 04/27/10 02:22 AM

2010 sniper coin will tell you exactly what to do with pigs.

you'll have to look it up, if I post it I'll get banned.

Posted By: rifleman

Re: Castrating Boars - 04/27/10 02:34 AM

Originally Posted By: Brandon A
i dont need advice, i kill all mine....

im just wondering for the sake of discussion.


I saw several get trapped, collared and relocated. It's okay to do that in the name of research though.

Posted By: Erich

Re: Castrating Boars - 04/27/10 12:48 PM

i have never and will never release any feral pigs. once a pig is in my posession he stays that way. my curiosity was if you could feed them out a little and butcher them later. its not economical, but it'd be fun. a friend of mine has a feral boar in a decent size pen that he's had for a few years, he's probably 300lbs or more. we've had a blast raising him. brought him up from a piglet that was trapped with some others. we've considered butchering him, he's been very well fed, he's been like a pet, but i don't know that i dare try and castrate a 300 pound animal.

Posted By: yanta61

Re: Castrating Boars - 04/27/10 01:35 PM

Originally Posted By: kyotee1
Originally Posted By: yanta61
Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Its also illegal to keep wild hogs over 24 hours and feed them out.


where is this written?

this is from an article off of the TPWD (same article that brandon posted above)
"Live trapping enables the individual to harvest the animal, fatten it up, or sell it"





Here you go:
http://www.tahc.state.tx.us/animal_health/swine/feral_swine.pdf



Just called my local TAHC inspector and he said as long as you take it straight home you can keep it as long as you want, to feed it out...doesn't have to stay on the place it was trap....told me i could trap it in one county and take it back to my house in another county with no problem......you just cant release them or sell them to a non-approved feral swine holding facilities

if you want to keep hogs i would call your local TAHC inspector and talk with them...........

Posted By: LoneTrapper

Re: Castrating Boars - 04/27/10 06:53 PM


Just called my local TAHC inspector and he said as long as you take it straight home you can keep it as long as you want[/quote]

did he fail to mention, that you have to be licensed holding facility to hold feral swine for more than 7 days? you CANNOT legally hold feral swine in a pen without first having TAHC come out to your property and inspect your pens and then they will issue you a permit number if your pens are constructed right.

Posted By: yanta61

Re: Castrating Boars - 04/27/10 07:18 PM

Originally Posted By: LoneTrapper

did he fail to mention, that you have to be licensed holding facility to hold feral swine for more than 7 days? you CANNOT legally hold feral swine in a pen without first having TAHC come out to your property and inspect your pens and then they will issue you a permit number if your pens are constructed right.



i asked him if it was legal for me to trap a pig, take it to my house, put it in a pen and feed it out....he said yes it was legal........he said i could keep it for days or even years if i wanted to.

you don't have to beleive me it you don't want too.....call your local TAHC inspector and ask him......

Posted By: d.g.ruff

Re: Castrating Boars - 04/27/10 08:15 PM

Originally Posted By: deewayne2003
This would turn the hog into a "barrow" hog which is what pork producers do; it is best done at a young age if you are gonna feed them out for pork.

I believe you are the first person on the interweb to use this word correctly, lol. Don't get me wrong, I'm definately not the grammar/spelling police, just sayin'...

Posted By: catchrcall

Re: Castrating Boars - 04/27/10 08:39 PM

when castrating a feral hog, the first cut should be right underneath the chin grin

Posted By: BOBO the Clown

Re: Castrating Boars - 04/27/10 09:01 PM

Originally Posted By: yanta61
Originally Posted By: LoneTrapper

did he fail to mention, that you have to be licensed holding facility to hold feral swine for more than 7 days? you CANNOT legally hold feral swine in a pen without first having TAHC come out to your property and inspect your pens and then they will issue you a permit number if your pens are constructed right.



i asked him if it was legal for me to trap a pig, take it to my house, put it in a pen and feed it out....he said yes it was legal........he said i could keep it for days or even years if i wanted to.

you don't have to beleive me it you don't want too.....call your local TAHC inspector and ask him......



I did and he is an area superviosr. Letter of the law is if you transport them and they are not dead before they leave the premises...they have to go to an approved TAHC facility, unless your house is an approved TAHC facility you just broke the law. now its not that hard to have an approved facility...Just paperwork and a visit from them.

Posted By: big rack hunter 137

Re: Castrating Boars - 04/29/10 12:23 PM

all i did when i ust to work on a ranch was put a rubberband and wrap it around a couple of times and they will fall off lol

Posted By: LG

Re: Castrating Boars - 04/29/10 01:18 PM

I have a buddy that traps them and castrates them, release back in to the wild. He uses these "high end rubber bands and "hog ties" them (all four legs together) slices the nut sac, pops out the testicle cuts the vein, releases them. Putting the rubber bands is the hardest part.

Posted By: Dude Briggs

Re: Castrating Boars - 04/29/10 04:47 PM

How can they prove you didnt raise it and really why would they even care about the pig I have in MY pin out behind MY house? They aint ever showed at my house inspecting my animals. Sometimes the laws are a bit silly when you think about them.Who cares whether I shoot it and eat it right away or pin it up and put some weight on it before we eat it. No different than a farm raised pig as long as it's healthy.

Posted By: LoneTrapper

Re: Castrating Boars - 04/29/10 05:48 PM

you will care when tahc come knocking on your door and slaps you with a fine and a class C misdameanor. then if your still hard headed and do it again, it turns into a class B misdemeanor. people like LG's friend who traps them and re-releases them back into the wild are part of the problem. your not helping anything or farmers or landowners by cutting them and re-releasing them. you make matters worse. you can tell how ignorant some people are by just what they say. some people have the mentality that "its ok as long as i dont get caught" or "i dont care because it doesnt effect me."

Posted By: E.Whit

Re: Castrating Boars - 05/03/10 03:53 AM

The best way to CASTRATE A BOAR is to put the pistol close to the ear pull the trigger 2x and wait 2mins. after he stops moving you can take out the testicles along with all the rest of the guts........lmao.. Dont be turnin those little sheits loose after you catch them killem all. They destroy more farm land than any other animal I know... If you take them home it will take almost 1 to 2 years before they even gain enough weight to make a different. All the feed you pore to them wont be worth it. the money would be better spent on a new gun that kills the the little buggars.

Posted By: ParkCountyElkDestroyer

Re: Castrating Boars - 05/03/10 12:05 PM

The black angus cows at my ranch destroy more feeders and what not than our insanely high population of pigs.

Posted By: BOBO the Clown

Re: Castrating Boars - 05/03/10 12:52 PM

Originally Posted By: Dude Briggs
How can they prove you didnt raise it and really why would they even care about the pig I have in MY pin out behind MY house? They aint ever showed at my house inspecting my animals. Sometimes the laws are a bit silly when you think about them.Who cares whether I shoot it and eat it right away or pin it up and put some weight on it before we eat it. No different than a farm raised pig as long as it's healthy.


Have you ever thought that maybe they are also trying to protect the domestic population from Bruc and pseudorabies also...

If you toss one in with a pen of domestic and that pig is a carrier and then you take any your hogs to a sale you could end up infecting a very very large herd of domestic animals, not good at all!!!

Not a bad law and not a stupid law. Its a law ment to protect us...apparently from ourselves

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