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Lake Lavon Ducks

Posted By: bigcatter

Lake Lavon Ducks - 09/17/09 12:24 PM

I have never duck hunted Lavon before and I just got my little fishing boat legal. Any suggestions on the SAFEST place to hunt there? I have heard since it is public land that people get a little crazy..

Posted By: Moose K

Re: Lake Lavon Ducks - 09/17/09 12:29 PM

Go to the corps of engineers website and get a map of the legal areas.

I used to hunt Lavon a lot, but it has become a zoo out there. There are lots of walk in spots, so the banks are lined with Barneys.

Consult the map and try to find a spot that's far away from the walk in access points.

Good luck.

Posted By: Sniper John

Re: Lake Lavon Ducks - 09/17/09 12:47 PM

That is great advice on staying away from the access points if you have a boat. Another lake where walk in hunters "have" to enter at an access point, it always amazes me to see a boat pull up and set up near one of those walk in spots. They are just asking to be covered up with hunters. And the walk in guys usually have driven and then walked a ways to get there, and going back often means not hunting for them, so your going to have a small percentage of guys that are just going to stick it out even if a boat is out there already.
So yea, best advise, you have a boat, scout for areas not near road or walk in access. Still may be a zoo out there, but at least it can be less of a zoo. Another suggestion better than "place" is "time". Try to avoid the weekends and hunt weekdays if you can.
As for safest place, you just have to look for yourself each year. Hunting public lakes is dynamic. Where ducks are, or should say with a lake like that, if they are even there; what the water level is, and where the bulk of people hunt, constantly changes from year to year, and sometimes day to day.

Posted By: skyshark

Re: Lake Lavon Ducks - 09/17/09 01:28 PM

no boat = barney????

Posted By: LuckyDucker

Re: Lake Lavon Ducks - 09/17/09 04:54 PM

Is Lavon still doing the permit thing?

Posted By: Sniper John

Re: Lake Lavon Ducks - 09/17/09 04:55 PM

Not this year, but will again next year.

Posted By: Moose K

Re: Lake Lavon Ducks - 09/17/09 05:05 PM

Originally Posted By: skyshark
no boat = barney????


At Lake Lavon, yeah pretty much.

Once guys learn the ropes, ie. calling, decoys, concealment, they usually get a boat. Am I wrong?

Posted By: Is That Good?

Re: Lake Lavon Ducks - 09/17/09 05:13 PM

Originally Posted By: Moose Knuckles
Originally Posted By: skyshark
no boat = barney????


At Lake Lavon, yeah pretty much.

Once guys learn the ropes, ie. calling, decoys, concealment, they usually get a boat. Am I wrong?



That is what happened with me but not all people have the funds for a boat and whatnot. I can see how that would be the progression of things but not always the case.

Posted By: Is That Good?

Re: Lake Lavon Ducks - 09/17/09 05:14 PM

Oooorr they get a buddy to buy one or that already has one. What bout those people??

Posted By: cable

Re: Lake Lavon Ducks - 09/17/09 05:17 PM

My friend Moose Knuckles has a boat. I, however, do not. nuts

Posted By: TexasEd

Re: Lake Lavon Ducks - 09/17/09 05:35 PM

Originally Posted By: Moose Knuckles
Originally Posted By: skyshark
no boat = barney????


At Lake Lavon, yeah pretty much.

Once guys learn the ropes, ie. calling, decoys, concealment, they usually get a boat. Am I wrong?



Gotta call BS on this one.

The guys with a boat that setup near the walk-in spots are just as bad.

My wife won't let me get a boat unless you can ski behind it, plus I can't really afford it. So does not being able to afford a boat make you a barney?

What about a walk-in guy who is willing to go 2 miles one way to get to a good spot at 4 am and then a boat pulls up withing 100 yards despite being flashed off? Who is the barney there? That happened to my 3 times last year.

Posted By: Moose K

Re: Lake Lavon Ducks - 09/17/09 05:37 PM

Originally Posted By: Is That Good?
Oooorr they get a buddy to buy one or that already has one. What bout those people??


That's plenty good! Mobility is the key!

Posted By: fortus

Re: Lake Lavon Ducks - 09/17/09 05:39 PM

Lavon is like every other public lake here in North Texas within the close proximity of the general populas. I have hunted Lavon over the last 5 years and have found as a rule:

If you do your scouting (boat or no boat) you can find a place to hunt ducks with reasonable success. If you don't have a boat you are going to have to scout preseason to ascertain the conditions and walk...and by walking I mean a good 30 minutes boots getting muddy, chest heaving walk.

It also a fact that if you can go during the week you will have a better chance of being by yourself and experiencing hunting for what most of us think is the reason we go hunting; To be outside with the wild, smack in your face watching another shooting star before a beautiful sunrise brings to fold another day of our existence.

Lavon can be no more crazy then any other place if you are willing to put in the work and keep your expectations in check.

Sometimes they are there, sometimes they're not and given the pressure they get during most weekends it might even make you a better duck hunter for the experience of trying to get them to drop into the spread no matter what Barney happens to be in the area at the time.

Good Luck.. you can''t get them if you don't try.

Posted By: Moose K

Re: Lake Lavon Ducks - 09/17/09 05:44 PM

Originally Posted By: TexasEd
Originally Posted By: Moose Knuckles
Originally Posted By: skyshark
no boat = barney????


At Lake Lavon, yeah pretty much.

Once guys learn the ropes, ie. calling, decoys, concealment, they usually get a boat. Am I wrong?



Gotta call BS on this one.

The guys with a boat that setup near the walk-in spots are just as bad.

My wife won't let me get a boat unless you can ski behind it, plus I can't really afford it. So does not being able to afford a boat make you a barney?

What about a walk-in guy who is willing to go 2 miles one way to get to a good spot at 4 am and then a boat pulls up withing 100 yards despite being flashed off? Who is the barney there? That happened to my 3 times last year.


If you are willing to walk two miles wearing waders, carrying decoys, mojo, and your hunting bag then my hat's off to you. I used to do that too, but I just don't have it in me anymore.

If you walk that far, then I'm sure you've scouted and put in the work. So Barney? I say no.

I was talking about some of the guys at Lavon. If you don't believe me, go to any boat ramp on the north end this Saturday and report back.

Last year, I got to the ramp 45 minutes before sun-up and there were 7 trucks with empty trailers and about 10 other trucks there as well. The hunting area by this ramp is small, too.

As far as the guys in boats who drive up on the walk in spots, I agree with you.

Posted By: TexasEd

Re: Lake Lavon Ducks - 09/17/09 05:47 PM

OK, moose, I thought you would agree with that.

BTW, I'm pretty sure it was the same guy who pulled up all three times. I remember him calling his dog, I think his name was "%$#&^"

Posted By: Bucks and Ducks

Re: Lake Lavon Ducks - 09/17/09 06:00 PM

I think the Barney he is referring to are the dumb arse guys that just don't know any better. They think that if they hunted there once then its their spot. If someone else gets to it before them then they think its ok to set up right next to them. And its the group of guys that are 8 deep shooting at the same group coming in and 24 shots fired and 1 bird down. Thats boat or no boat.

Posted By: ducknbass

Re: Lake Lavon Ducks - 09/17/09 06:03 PM

Originally Posted By: Moose Knuckles
Originally Posted By: skyshark
no boat = barney????


At Lake Lavon, yeah pretty much.

Once guys learn the ropes, ie. calling, decoys, concealment, they usually get a boat. Am I wrong?



I would say that is wrong.

But they usually get a boat, or stop hunting lavon.

Posted By: ducknbass

Re: Lake Lavon Ducks - 09/17/09 06:05 PM

Originally Posted By: Moose Knuckles
Originally Posted By: TexasEd
Originally Posted By: Moose Knuckles
Originally Posted By: skyshark
no boat = barney????


At Lake Lavon, yeah pretty much.

Once guys learn the ropes, ie. calling, decoys, concealment, they usually get a boat. Am I wrong?



Gotta call BS on this one.

The guys with a boat that setup near the walk-in spots are just as bad.

My wife won't let me get a boat unless you can ski behind it, plus I can't really afford it. So does not being able to afford a boat make you a barney?

What about a walk-in guy who is willing to go 2 miles one way to get to a good spot at 4 am and then a boat pulls up withing 100 yards despite being flashed off? Who is the barney there? That happened to my 3 times last year.


If you are willing to walk two miles wearing waders, carrying decoys, mojo, and your hunting bag then my hat's off to you. I used to do that too, but I just don't have it in me anymore.

If you walk that far, then I'm sure you've scouted and put in the work. So Barney? I say no.

I was talking about some of the guys at Lavon. If you don't believe me, go to any boat ramp on the north end this Saturday and report back.

Last year, I got to the ramp 45 minutes before sun-up and there were 7 trucks with empty trailers and about 10 other trucks there as well. The hunting area by this ramp is small, too.

As far as the guys in boats who drive up on the walk in spots, I agree with you.


I have sai it once I will say it 100 times. 45 minutes before sun up at the launch. Your running WAY WAY TO LATE. I would called you barney.

Posted By: Moose K

Re: Lake Lavon Ducks - 09/17/09 06:09 PM

Don't you love it when you have mallards working and some kid down the cove from you tries to shoot at duck at 100 yds?

I don't hunt public spots on the weekends unless I know that I can get FAR away from other hunters.

When I started, I was walking in, didn't know how to call, etc. etc.

I don't hold anything against them because we have ALL been THAT GUY.

At this stage of the game, I just prefer to stay away from that element because it makes me mad.

Here's the God's honest truth:

Lavon holds a lot of ducks and the hunting can be outstanding. The problem is that it's close to Dallas and it gets really crowded.

That's just the way it is, some things will never change, that's just the way it is....dah dah dah, forgot the words, some things will never change.

Posted By: dove_buster

Re: Lake Lavon Ducks - 09/17/09 06:12 PM

I'm waiting for all the guys w/o boats to chime in. I see a flood gate opening.

Posted By: Moose K

Re: Lake Lavon Ducks - 09/17/09 06:13 PM

[quote=ducknbass

I have sai it once I will say it 100 times. 45 minutes before sun up at the launch. Your running WAY WAY TO LATE. I would called you barney. [/quote]

Barney see, Barney do.

I scrolled up from the bottom and read that statement. I knew it was going to be you! Ha Ha

Have fun on your campouts/duck hunts this year. When we get together this year, you go hold the spot down, I'll roll in at legal and we'll blast.

I will reciprocate your kindness.

Posted By: Sniper John

Re: Lake Lavon Ducks - 09/17/09 06:28 PM

Originally Posted By: Moose Knuckles
Originally Posted By: skyshark
no boat = barney????


At Lake Lavon, yeah pretty much.

Once guys learn the ropes, ie. calling, decoys, concealment, they usually get a boat. Am I wrong?



IMO, yes.
I have a duck boat, but I might have only put it in the water maybe twice last season. Other than that Greg's boat is the only other duck boat I was ever on last season. These days, I have opted for my kayak mostly, but a good percentage of my hunts are walk in, or combined kayak/walk in. All three of my teal hunts this year have been walk in. So see my progression has taken full circle and currently headed opposite from your thoughts on it.
Considering that I see people often associate barnie with lazy. And considering the work involved with hunts without boats. If that is true, I would think there are as many if not more barney's in boats as there are not.

Posted By: Moose K

Re: Lake Lavon Ducks - 09/17/09 06:49 PM

bang All I said is LAVON has a lot of walk-in Barney type hunters.

I am not classifying non-boaters as bad hunters! hammer

Posted By: fortus

Re: Lake Lavon Ducks - 09/17/09 06:52 PM

Doesn't common sense come into play here. As hunters and people that want to keep passing this on from generation to generation in a responsible manner, shouldn't we be teaching our kids respect and admiration for "Dad" and the experience. If you have a boat and you get to a spot that you were thinking about hunting and somebody had already walked in and had set up..and vice versa...isn't it much better of an example no matter what to take the higher ground and move on. As a father who's dad and grandfather taught me the joys of hunting and the bond that it creates among families and "men" in particular, shouldn't we all take a little responsiblity for a proper bearing on our moral compass?

Posted By: Bucks and Ducks

Re: Lake Lavon Ducks - 09/17/09 06:56 PM

Originally Posted By: fortus
Doesn't common sense come into play here. As hunters and people that want to keep passing this on from generation to generation in a responsible manner, shouldn't we be teaching our kids respect and admiration for "Dad" and the experience. If you have a boat and you get to a spot that you were thinking about hunting and somebody had already walked in and had set up..and vice versa...isn't it much better of an example no matter what to take the higher ground and move on. As a father who's dad and grandfather taught me the joys of hunting and the bond that it creates among families and "men" in particular, shouldn't we all take a little responsiblity for a proper bearing on our moral compass?


Some folks just don't think that way, its sad.

Posted By: Moose K

Re: Lake Lavon Ducks - 09/17/09 07:05 PM

Since I stepped in the trap, let me explain:

This has nothing to do with whether or not you own a boat, OK.

Lavon is 10 minutes from my house and is a good place to hunt ducks.

However, it gets tons of pressure which frustrates me as I drive past it to get someplace else with less pressure.

I wish I could just dump in around daylight and do my business, but that's just not the reality.

It's frustrating when you do all the work, get set up, and some kids walk in and set up 100 yds. down. That's all I'm getting at.

Fortus, here's a picture of me, my dad, and my brother at Lavon with a full strap of teal and pintails. There was another guy with us for the IGW's and I didn't shoot the bootlip.

I'm out!



Posted By: Sniper John

Re: Lake Lavon Ducks - 09/17/09 07:10 PM

Originally Posted By: Moose Knuckles
bang All I said is LAVON has a lot of walk-in Barney type hunters.

I am not classifying non-boaters as bad hunters! hammer



Well actually to the question no boat = barney????

You said "At Lake Lavon, yeah pretty much."

But I understand that is not what you meant to say. We all know there are as many ignorant, unethical, or discourteous hunters in boats as there are on foot. It is a character thing not related to material. There are just people like that unfortunately. Like a Chevy or a Mercedes. The car does not make the character of the person driving it. Either could have a jerk behind the wheel or the nicest person in the world.

Posted By: fortus

Re: Lake Lavon Ducks - 09/17/09 07:17 PM

Mooseknuckles,

Thanks for the picture and your comments. That's great stuff. I get it. So sick and tired of all the bs that goes on when we call ourselves "men" and can't seem to get past some simple common ground as people who love the outdoors. PM me and I'd be glad to show you where I go out in Lavon after a long walk.

Bucks and Ducks, I agree it is sad and something we should all strive to help bring everybody back into the fold every chance we get. One suggestion for the group is that if you hunt Lavon you really should join the Lake Lavon DU Chapter and get to know the folks that share the space and have a vested interest in supporting huntnig for us all-including Barney (most of them probably don't know they are Barney's) You can pm me for info on joining LLDU.

Posted By: Sniper John

Re: Lake Lavon Ducks - 09/17/09 07:19 PM

Originally Posted By: Moose Knuckles
It's frustrating when you do all the work, get set up, and some kids walk in and set up 100 yds. down. That's all I'm getting at.


Of course a boat could come in and set up 100 yards down from you too.

Posted By: TexasEd

Re: Lake Lavon Ducks - 09/17/09 07:41 PM

Originally Posted By: Sniper John
Originally Posted By: Moose Knuckles
It's frustrating when you do all the work, get set up, and some kids walk in and set up 100 yds. down. That's all I'm getting at.


Of course a boat could come in and set up 100 yards down from you too.


Yep, had it happen to me.

On the other side, the one time I walked in to a boat being in the spot I wanted directly in front of the access point I kept going until the mud was too thick to walk. I felt I was still too close so I just walked into the woods and sat and watched them sky bust ringnecks.

The boat was actually set up in a no hunting zone according to lake maps.

Posted By: Judd

Re: Lake Lavon Ducks - 09/17/09 07:42 PM

Originally Posted By: cable
My friend Moose Knuckles has a boat. I, however, do not. nuts


Sounds like that makes you Moose's bbbbbb.....barney yeah that is the word I was looking for rofl

I thought this thread might need a little something to lighten it up. Sorry it was at your expense cable.

Posted By: cable

Re: Lake Lavon Ducks - 09/17/09 08:00 PM

No offense taken Judd. cheers

Posted By: cable

Re: Lake Lavon Ducks - 09/17/09 08:00 PM

By the way, the Eagles suck #@$%

Posted By: ducknbass

Re: Lake Lavon Ducks - 09/18/09 12:56 AM

dog pile

Posted By: Guy

Re: Lake Lavon Ducks - 09/18/09 01:56 AM

Great posts Sniper!! Pretty much everyone had good comments on here, except for Moose.. hammer



Posted By: Sniper John

Re: Lake Lavon Ducks - 09/18/09 03:53 AM

I think he really just stepped in a trap. He did bring up the best answer to the question. Most of us kinda hijacked it when we caught his slip. If your in a boat and looking for a "safe" place to scout for. Right off a bank where walk in hunters have no choice but to hunt, walk out and drive to another location and then set up late, or go home. Yea it would be best to scout for places not off those shorelines near the road accesses. Otherwise it does increase your odds of having that small percentage of guys that are going to try to share the location with you no matter what. Same advice can go the other way. I try to find places the boats can't get to for the very same reason.

Posted By: karhunts

Re: Lake Lavon Ducks - 09/18/09 12:08 PM

Originally Posted By: TexasEd



My wife won't let me get a boat unless you can ski behind it, plus I can't really afford it. .


Your wife won't let you? Jeez, it may be true, but I would be embarrassed to post it on the internet.

Posted By: TexasEd

Re: Lake Lavon Ducks - 09/18/09 05:18 PM

nope, we make decisions that are best for my family, not for individuals.

Posted By: cable

Re: Lake Lavon Ducks - 09/18/09 05:45 PM

A true family man. Props to Ed. I have a feeling that I may be in those shoes in a couple of years cheers

Posted By: GUTIT

Re: Lake Lavon Ducks - 09/18/09 05:57 PM

Originally Posted By: karhunts
Originally Posted By: TexasEd



My wife won't let me get a boat unless you can ski behind it, plus I can't really afford it. .


Your wife won't let you? Jeez, it may be true, but I would be embarrassed to post it on the internet.


Easy Greenhorn,only 8 posts and already trolling. I too have a ski boat that the wife amd family enjoy together. I hunt all year and all kinds of game. If not having a duck boat, but still getting to hunt all year and going to the lease for days on end with no complaining is the trade off for family time and the wife being happy, then so be it.

Posted By: TexasEd

Re: Lake Lavon Ducks - 09/18/09 06:15 PM

BTW, we have a 2 year old and a 5 month old and I have already hunted 5 times since September 1st with a couple more trips this weekend.

My wife supports me getting out and does not complain. I respect her by not abusing it.

Posted By: bigcatter

Re: Lake Lavon Ducks - 09/21/09 02:41 PM

Alot of great info... Thanks guys... I may go out there Saturday morning and do some scouting

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