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One more step towards me being a criminal

Posted By: jefeh

One more step towards me being a criminal - 02/19/13 06:55 AM

These bills were voted on in the house today, and all passed. I will not comply with any of them if they become law, so I will become a criminal in the eyes of the state government.

House passage of the bills below should be a wake-up call to everyone across this diverse and freedom-loving state. Your rights are under an all-out assault by those who see you and your way of life as a problem that needs to be fixed.

House Bill 1224 – Bans magazines with a capacity greater than fifteen rounds. (Passed 34-31)

House Bill 1226 – Repeals current law allowing individuals with a concealed carry permit to carry a firearm for self-defense on a college or university campus. (Passed 34-31)

House Bill 1228 – Imposes a “gun tax” for a background check when purchasing a firearm. (Passed 33-32)

House Bill 1229 – Criminalizes the private transfer of a firearm. (Passed 36-29)
Posted By: dogcatcher

Re: One more step towards me being a criminal - 02/19/13 07:50 AM

That sucks!
Posted By: Dry Fire

Re: One more step towards me being a criminal - 02/19/13 02:11 PM

In Texas we are not allowed to carry on campus (yet). I hope Magpul moves out of Colorado like they have threatened if these laws pass the Senate.
Posted By: Closed Traverse

Re: One more step towards me being a criminal - 02/19/13 03:32 PM

got a link?
Posted By: jefeh

Re: One more step towards me being a criminal - 02/19/13 03:35 PM

Here's the link:

http://www.nraila.org/legislation/state-...amp;st=&ps=
Posted By: Closed Traverse

Re: One more step towards me being a criminal - 02/19/13 04:11 PM

I just cant understand the college campus thing.... have there been any issued with a CCW on a college campus going crazy and killing people, or even and accidental discharge on a college campus?

Or are they just trying to make it illegal to CCW on there to make them FEEL better?

Idiot law makers.


And a gun tax? Jeez.
Posted By: tth_40

Re: One more step towards me being a criminal - 02/19/13 04:31 PM

It appears stupid cannot be fixed in Colorado.

You need to make your way to Texas, brother.
Posted By: phat694

Re: One more step towards me being a criminal - 02/19/13 06:02 PM

I can't believe that CO has gone down hill that fast. I lived in Loveland from 2002-2007 and the state was fairly conservative. You had areas like Boulder and parts of Denver that where pretty liberal but it seems like most of the state has turned blue. Now anti gun, dope friendly? What happened? Invasion from So. Californians?
Posted By: jefeh

Re: One more step towards me being a criminal - 02/19/13 06:28 PM

Yes on the Californians. When the housing market went sky high in Cali, they all moved here. Douglas county is the last conservative stronghold in the metro area. We're actually considering relocating out of state.
Posted By: TF Panther

Re: One more step towards me being a criminal - 02/19/13 06:55 PM

Don't look now but US Senate Repubs are starting to cave in on mag capicity. VA Senator Warner is one.
Posted By: cory_cooper

Re: One more step towards me being a criminal - 02/19/13 08:08 PM

Originally Posted By: TF Panther
Don't look now but US Senate Repubs are starting to cave in on mag capicity. VA Senator Warner is one.

in all fairness the the state of calirado has every right to pass what ever state laws they see fit, if it is anti-constitutional then the courts should strike it down as such. but an over-reaching omnibus federal law is beyond the pail and goes to show you what the polititians think of the law abiding citezens of the US and that the bill of rights is not worth the paper it is written on.
Posted By: ddr225

Re: One more step towards me being a criminal - 02/19/13 08:12 PM

If you aren't a lib, you are welcome to move to our great nation of TX!
Posted By: Walt Kowalski

Re: One more step towards me being a criminal - 02/19/13 08:53 PM

Originally Posted By: Brandon A
I just cant understand the college campus thing.... have there been any issued with a CCW on a college campus going crazy and killing people, or even and accidental discharge on a college campus?

Or are they just trying to make it illegal to CCW on there to make them FEEL better?

Idiot law makers.


And a gun tax? Jeez.


It is necessary so they can have more "unarmed victim zones". That way, when the next mass shooter comes along, they can have a super high body count so they can pass even more draconian legislation.

Once you understand that for the people who pass these laws, it's not about safety of the public...but instead it's about control of the public, it will all start to make sense.

The only solution for this is MASS disregard for these laws and open revolt if it becomes necessary.

We have to engage these tyrants now, or be subjugated by them.

There are no easy days ahead.
Posted By: Walt Kowalski

Re: One more step towards me being a criminal - 02/19/13 08:55 PM

Originally Posted By: phat694
I can't believe that CO has gone down hill that fast. I lived in Loveland from 2002-2007 and the state was fairly conservative. You had areas like Boulder and parts of Denver that where pretty liberal but it seems like most of the state has turned blue. Now anti gun, dope friendly? What happened? Invasion from So. Californians?


There it is.
Posted By: HeidelbergJaeger

Re: One more step towards me being a criminal - 02/19/13 09:19 PM

I was born in Denver, but aside from the Broncos, that is where my association with the state ends. At one point I actually considered moving there as a retirement location, and then I came to my senses.

You're correct in saying that it was an invasion- but not just from Californians from LA. It was also from the Californians from Baja, and the rest of those who didn't get here legally.

Also, Californians are waking up to figure out that you CAN find sun, water, good scenery and good weather in other parts of the country without the earthquakes, gang warfare, high taxes and corrupt law enforcement entities like the LAPD and the CHP. When I was a recruiter in San Jose, we had the highest per capita home prices in the nation in a small town called Los Altos Hills, 10 years running.

Just remember, not all law enforcement in California are corrupt, but those that aren't are intimidated into not saying anything by those who are. I know because one of my colleagues was a CHP patrolman before he enlisted in the Army.
Posted By: jefeh

Re: One more step towards me being a criminal - 02/19/13 09:38 PM

Originally Posted By: ddr225
If you aren't a lib, you are welcome to move to our great nation of TX!


Definitely not a lib. I'm the target in obozos crosshairs: a white working middle class Christian conservative male that hunts and owns guns. Maybe one day the target and crosshairs can be reversed.
Posted By: DannyB

Re: One more step towards me being a criminal - 02/19/13 10:50 PM

Originally Posted By: TF Panther
Don't look now but US Senate Repubs are starting to cave in on mag capicity. VA Senator Warner is one.


I can't give a link to substantiate this, but I have heard more than one or two Fox News segments where opinions were tossed out where they think that giving up high or higher cap mags may be a bargaining chip in order to keep assault rifles.

The Colorado thing is kind of odd how they landed on fifteen rounds.
Posted By: Walt Kowalski

Re: One more step towards me being a criminal - 02/20/13 02:14 AM

Originally Posted By: DannyB
Originally Posted By: TF Panther
Don't look now but US Senate Repubs are starting to cave in on mag capicity. VA Senator Warner is one.


I can't give a link to substantiate this, but I have heard more than one or two Fox News segments where opinions were tossed out where they think that giving up high or higher cap mags may be a bargaining chip in order to keep assault rifles.

The Colorado thing is kind of odd how they landed on fifteen rounds.


They can take their "bargaining chips" and put 'em where the sun don't shine.

My rights are not up for negotiation.
Posted By: Chris42

Re: One more step towards me being a criminal - 02/20/13 02:21 AM

Its those "conservative Democrats" or some BS like that.

You elect all democrats, you shouldn't be supprised with the results.
Posted By: Magicglock

Re: One more step towards me being a criminal - 02/20/13 03:40 AM

4th generation native to Colorado, married a texas girl and got a one way ticket. Dang I love that girl, she rescued me from that garbage in CO. Two things Coloradans hated the most when I lived there were Texans and Californians. The smart Texans returned home and the others are a lost cause. Let's just hope they don't continue to migrate south and east. Colorado can keep them.
Posted By: IronSpikeLabs

Re: One more step towards me being a criminal - 02/20/13 06:52 AM

Originally Posted By: FireGator
Yes on the Californians. When the housing market went sky high in Cali, they all moved here. Douglas county is the last conservative stronghold in the metro area. We're actually considering relocating out of state.


That's why I call it "Cali-rado." Shame.
Posted By: sic'em

Re: One more step towards me being a criminal - 02/20/13 07:37 AM

I was initially taken completely aback because I didn't see that the OP was in Colorado. I thought he was saying the these had passed the Texas house. Now I am only mostly taken aback that legislators in any state have such a lack of intelligence, patriotism, and willingness to accomplish something real.
Posted By: jefeh

Re: One more step towards me being a criminal - 02/20/13 02:39 PM

We can use all the texans we can get
Posted By: IronSpikeLabs

Re: One more step towards me being a criminal - 02/20/13 04:02 PM

Texans need to stay awake because California is infiltrating CenTex.
Posted By: TF Panther

Re: One more step towards me being a criminal - 02/20/13 05:45 PM

Originally Posted By: cory_cooper
Originally Posted By: TF Panther
Don't look now but US Senate Repubs are starting to cave in on mag capicity. VA Senator Warner is one.

in all fairness the the state of calirado has every right to pass what ever state laws they see fit, if it is anti-constitutional then the courts should strike it down as such. but an over-reaching omnibus federal law is beyond the pail and goes to show you what the polititians think of the law abiding citezens of the US and that the bill of rights is not worth the paper it is written on.


No, my comment had nothing to do with Colorado. It is the National debate in which Repubs are caving.
Posted By: Walt Kowalski

Re: One more step towards me being a criminal - 02/21/13 03:19 AM

Originally Posted By: IronSpikeLabs
Texans need to stay awake because California is infiltrating CenTex.


That's why Austin is weird.
Posted By: DSessom

Re: One more step towards me being a criminal - 02/21/13 04:14 PM

Originally Posted By: phat694
I can't believe that CO has gone down hill that fast. I lived in Loveland from 2002-2007 and the state was fairly conservative. You had areas like Boulder and parts of Denver that where pretty liberal but it seems like most of the state has turned blue. Now anti gun, dope friendly? What happened? Invasion from So. Californians?


I think Colorado is a nice mix of liberal and conservative.
No way I'd ever agree to any sort of anti-gun legislation, but actually, from a law enforcement standpoint, I think cannabis legalization is a good thing! I've seen too many young peoples lives ruined over a joint or less. They get their drivers license suspended for 6 months, pay thousands in lawyers fees, possible jail time, and the biggie... they can NEVER, EVER, get Federal aid to go to college! I know first hand because my stepson was caught with very small amount and that was the outcome.
Posted By: Bdontexoma

Re: One more step towards me being a criminal - 02/21/13 08:32 PM

Originally Posted By: Dry Fire
In Texas we are not allowed to carry on campus (yet).


Actually you can CC on a college campus. However you can not carry in a premises of a college campus. It has to have 4 walls and a roof. Parking garages, sidewalks, parking lots, streets, etc. are not premises according to the Texas Penal Code. That’s the way I read it...
Posted By: Fooshman

Re: One more step towards me being a criminal - 02/25/13 06:52 AM

Originally Posted By: DannyB
Originally Posted By: TF Panther
Don't look now but US Senate Repubs are starting to cave in on mag capicity. VA Senator Warner is one.


I can't give a link to substantiate this, but I have heard more than one or two Fox News segments where opinions were tossed out where they think that giving up high or higher cap mags may be a bargaining chip in order to keep assault rifles.

The Colorado thing is kind of odd how they landed on fifteen rounds.


Maybe trying to cling onto Magpul a bit, originally it was 10.
Posted By: Cap Rock

Re: One more step towards me being a criminal - 02/28/13 01:45 AM

Originally Posted By: Walt Kowalski
Originally Posted By: DannyB
Originally Posted By: TF Panther
Don't look now but US Senate Repubs are starting to cave in on mag capicity. VA Senator Warner is one.


I can't give a link to substantiate this, but I have heard more than one or two Fox News segments where opinions were tossed out where they think that giving up high or higher cap mags may be a bargaining chip in order to keep assault rifles.

The Colorado thing is kind of odd how they landed on fifteen rounds.


They can take their "bargaining chips" and put 'em where the sun don't shine.

My rights are not up for negotiation.


You said it! Non negotiable
Posted By: jefeh

Re: One more step towards me being a criminal - 02/28/13 03:55 PM

Glad to see MagPul stepping up and sticking it to the legislature!

We are proud to announce that within a matter of days we will be going live with a new program. Due to a bill currently moving through the Colorado legislature, there is the possibility that Colorado residents' ability to purchase standard capacity magazines will soon be infringed. Before that happens, and Magpul is forced to leave the state in order to keep to our principles, we will be doing our best to get standard capacity PMAGs into the hands of any Colorado resident that wants them.

Verified Colorado residents will be able to purchase up to ten (10) standard capacity AR/M4 magazines directly from Magpul, and will be given immediate flat-rate $5 shipping, bypassing our current order queue.

Our customers outside of Colorado, please know that our PMAG production will continue at an ever-increasing rate until we do relocate, shipments to our distributors in other states will continue, and that we do not expect relocation to significantly impact PMAG production. We are also aware that Colorado is not the only state with existing or pending magazine capacity restrictions; we are working on programs for other affected states as well.

Full details and instructions will be announced when we are able to go live; please watch here for the coming announcement.
Posted By: tth_40

Re: One more step towards me being a criminal - 02/28/13 04:24 PM

You mean THIS MagPul?

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/02...ban-state-leos/

Oh, and now their clarification due to some pushback.

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/02...fb_source=pubv1

And the pushback is worsening due to their clarification.

https://www.facebook.com/magpul
Posted By: blackcoal

Re: One more step towards me being a criminal - 02/28/13 10:32 PM

Time to wise up.
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