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Keep Cattle OUT, Let Hogs IN

Posted By: PoppaG22

Keep Cattle OUT, Let Hogs IN - 08/29/18 11:11 PM

We are looking for a solution to our cattle problem. We deer hunt, but like shooting hogs at the feeder too. I've noticed panels don't really allow hogs to come in although sometimes the dig holes to go under. We think barb wire would work but want the deer to be able to come in without a problem. Has barbed wire worked for yall in the past? Other ideas?
Posted By: stxranchman

Re: Keep Cattle OUT, Let Hogs IN - 08/29/18 11:30 PM

Cheap hay ring will work around the feeder or hog panels with the feeder closer to one side so 1/3 or more of the corn throws outside the pen.
Posted By: SapperTitan

Re: Keep Cattle OUT, Let Hogs IN - 08/29/18 11:47 PM

Just put the T post in and then run a double or triple strand of barbed wire.
Posted By: deerfeeder

Re: Keep Cattle OUT, Let Hogs IN - 08/30/18 01:20 AM

My experience with wire around feed pens is that it is not if, but when, a deer will get hung up in one. Just sayin'. Your mileage may vary.
Posted By: Txduckman

Re: Keep Cattle OUT, Let Hogs IN - 08/30/18 01:45 AM

On our non-penned feeders, we have two strands. Deer go under it normally. Bottom strand is 24 inches and top is 36 inches like our hog panels. Calf can too maybe once a week but big cows don't try. Never seen a deer get stuck. Seen a deer get stuck in panels though.
Posted By: Justin T

Re: Keep Cattle OUT, Let Hogs IN - 08/30/18 03:59 AM

Just make a normal pen, but have the panels 12” off the ground.
Posted By: Pitchfork Predator

Re: Keep Cattle OUT, Let Hogs IN - 08/30/18 11:05 AM

Originally Posted By: Justin T
Just make a normal pen, but have the panels 12” off the ground.
Posted By: Stevarino

Re: Keep Cattle OUT, Let Hogs IN - 08/30/18 12:27 PM

Some of our guys just cut a 2x2 square on the front side of the pen for pigs to go in and out.. they keep that piece and reattach with zip ties when they want to slow the pig traffic down.
Posted By: CharlieCTx

Re: Keep Cattle OUT, Let Hogs IN - 08/30/18 12:53 PM

Originally Posted By: Stevarino
Some of our guys just cut a 2x2 square on the front side of the pen for pigs to go in and out.. they keep that piece and reattach with zip ties when they want to slow the pig traffic down.


We have the hog panels up off the ground. I think the above sounds like a good idea too.

Here's my pen with customers.


While I think the panels should be a little higher, this big boy comes in every day or at least he will until it cools down just a bit. rifle



This is the same hog pen as above (camera was on the pen posts), I have another pen 30-40 yards from this one with protein and corn for deer with panels on the ground and some trimmed sections on the upper part for ease of jumping in. I was in my stand waiting for hogs and watched this guy get down and crawl under the fence to get in the hog pen.


I guess I need to put up signs that say "Deer Here" and "Hogs Here".



Posted By: QuitShootinYoungBucks

Re: Keep Cattle OUT, Let Hogs IN - 08/30/18 01:51 PM

Lots of good suggestions here. Be prepared for the cows to test it (depending on their ornery-ness and how much pasture they have).
Posted By: Blake Millican

Re: Keep Cattle OUT, Let Hogs IN - 08/30/18 06:32 PM

If you have panels Just leave a small gap like a walk through gate and put three strands of barbed wire arcross
Posted By: ju993rnaut

Re: Keep Cattle OUT, Let Hogs IN - 08/30/18 06:35 PM

Originally Posted By: Stevarino
Some of our guys just cut a 2x2 square on the front side of the pen for pigs to go in and out.. they keep that piece and reattach with zip ties when they want to slow the pig traffic down.


I do this.
Posted By: HuskerB

Re: Keep Cattle OUT, Let Hogs IN - 08/31/18 09:44 PM

Originally Posted By: Stevarino
Some of our guys just cut a 2x2 square on the front side of the pen for pigs to go in and out.. they keep that piece and reattach with zip ties when they want to slow the pig traffic down.


We do this as well. Heck the does will even use the cut out to get in versus jumping over. Pigs only have one way in or out.
Posted By: Freeman

Re: Keep Cattle OUT, Let Hogs IN - 08/31/18 11:54 PM

I use old trampoline frames either wired to T-posts or weighted with big rocks. The cows stay out and the deer and pigs get in. Put a self-tapping screw in every joint to hold them together.

Posted By: pigplinker

Re: Keep Cattle OUT, Let Hogs IN - 09/02/18 08:20 AM

Originally Posted By: QuitShootinYoungBucks
Lots of good suggestions here. Be prepared for the cows to test it (depending on their ornery-ness and how much pasture they have).


Yes they will and the less they have to eat elsewhere the more they will push on the fence reguardless of how strong it is. Raise the panels up a little let the piggys in and choot tha heck out of them.
Posted By: colt45-90

Re: Keep Cattle OUT, Let Hogs IN - 09/02/18 12:22 PM

Originally Posted By: SapperTitan
Just put the T post in and then run a double or triple strand of barbed wire.
and the cows will push though, unless you put in a lot of stays
Posted By: Stub

Re: Keep Cattle OUT, Let Hogs IN - 09/02/18 12:36 PM

Originally Posted By: HuskerB
Originally Posted By: Stevarino
Some of our guys just cut a 2x2 square on the front side of the pen for pigs to go in and out.. they keep that piece and reattach with zip ties when they want to slow the pig traffic down.


We do this as well. Heck the does will even use the cut out to get in versus jumping over. Pigs only have one way in or out.


Sounds like a plan up
Posted By: budward

Re: Keep Cattle OUT, Let Hogs IN - 09/03/18 04:36 PM

Just cut two of the bottom rebarbs and bend the panel back enough to make a 24"x24" entry in the bottom.
Posted By: krmitchell

Re: Keep Cattle OUT, Let Hogs IN - 09/04/18 12:56 AM

Lift one hog panel up about 18 inches off the ground. This will allow hogs/fawns/turkey in and keep cows out. Used to do this before deer season so the hogs would trample down all the feeder pen grass.
Posted By: Red Pill

Re: Keep Cattle OUT, Let Hogs IN - 09/04/18 01:39 AM

Three strands of barbed wire. Doesn't have to be super tight. I have mine with t-posts at the corners, tied to angled t-post anchors. It works. The cattle don't get in, the deer and hogs do.
Posted By: Pootie

Re: Keep Cattle OUT, Let Hogs IN - 09/05/18 10:57 PM

add 1 strand of elec. fence wire or tape with solar fence charger in line with the middle strand of barbed wire and cows will loose interest in my experience. Deere and hogs will never touch it, so no problems for them.
Posted By: colt45-90

Re: Keep Cattle OUT, Let Hogs IN - 09/05/18 11:49 PM

Originally Posted By: Red Pill
Three strands of barbed wire. Doesn't have to be super tight. I have mine with t-posts at the corners, tied to angled t-post anchors. It works. The cattle don't get in, the deer and hogs do.
roflmao
Posted By: xwig16

Re: Keep Cattle OUT, Let Hogs IN - 09/06/18 09:09 AM

We just make sure that the feeder throws corn outside the feeder also
Posted By: Shortya

Re: Keep Cattle OUT, Let Hogs IN - 09/06/18 10:13 PM

We just remove one of the panels and run 3 strands of barbed wire where panel was....also did in line with blind so we no longer have to shoot thru the panel, just 3 strands of barbed wire. Works great!!
Posted By: nocknload

Re: Keep Cattle OUT, Let Hogs IN - 09/07/18 04:33 AM

I now regret getting rid of my old trampoline frames.
Posted By: Red Pill

Re: Keep Cattle OUT, Let Hogs IN - 09/07/18 12:54 PM

Originally Posted By: colt45
Originally Posted By: Red Pill
Three strands of barbed wire. Doesn't have to be super tight. I have mine with t-posts at the corners, tied to angled t-post anchors. It works. The cattle don't get in, the deer and hogs do.
roflmao
Originally Posted By: colt45
Originally Posted By: Red Pill
Three strands of barbed wire. Doesn't have to be super tight. I have mine with t-posts at the corners, tied to angled t-post anchors. It works. The cattle don't get in, the deer and hogs do.
roflmao


In four years, not one pic of cattle in the pen. Lots of pics of them outside the pen.
Posted By: Simple Searcher

Re: Keep Cattle OUT, Let Hogs IN - 09/07/18 02:12 PM

Originally Posted By: Red Pill
Originally Posted By: colt45
Originally Posted By: Red Pill
Three strands of barbed wire. Doesn't have to be super tight. I have mine with t-posts at the corners, tied to angled t-post anchors. It works. The cattle don't get in, the deer and hogs do.
roflmao
Originally Posted By: colt45
Originally Posted By: Red Pill
Three strands of barbed wire. Doesn't have to be super tight. I have mine with t-posts at the corners, tied to angled t-post anchors. It works. The cattle don't get in, the deer and hogs do.
roflmao


In four years, not one pic of cattle in the pen. Lots of pics of them outside the pen.

Entire ranches are built that way, works good.
Posted By: Satch

Re: Keep Cattle OUT, Let Hogs IN - 09/07/18 05:47 PM

Originally Posted By: Freeman
I use old trampoline frames either wired to T-posts or weighted with big rocks. The cows stay out and the deer and pigs get in. Put a self-tapping screw in every joint to hold them together.


This works great. I would have never believed it until I seen it in action
Posted By: Dalroo

Re: Keep Cattle OUT, Let Hogs IN - 09/07/18 07:31 PM

I had cattle on my place for a while. Had feeders inside two strands of wire - no corner posts (like previous poster) just t-posts and then an angled post from ground to strengthen the corners. Never has a problem with the cattle getting into the pen, but they did scarf up every kernel that landed outside the wire.

Have also watched hundreds of deer either go over, or go under. Never seen one get hung up.
Posted By: QuitShootinYoungBucks

Re: Keep Cattle OUT, Let Hogs IN - 09/07/18 08:15 PM

Originally Posted By: Dalroo
I had cattle on my place for a while. Had feeders inside two strands of wire - no corner posts (like previous poster) just t-posts and then an angled post from ground to strengthen the corners. Never has a problem with the cattle getting into the pen, but they did scarf up every kernel that landed outside the wire.

Have also watched hundreds of deer either go over, or go under. Never seen one get hung up.



Are you sure it was the cows that ate the corn? Cows, due to their big mouths, have a hard time picking up corn off the ground, especially individual kernels.
Posted By: Dalroo

Re: Keep Cattle OUT, Let Hogs IN - 09/07/18 09:32 PM

Yessir, I had always heard cows had a hard time with kernels, but lots of photos on game cameras of cows milling around with their heads down.
Posted By: QuitShootinYoungBucks

Re: Keep Cattle OUT, Let Hogs IN - 09/07/18 09:52 PM

Originally Posted By: Dalroo
Yessir, I had always heard cows had a hard time with kernels, but lots of photos on game cameras of cows milling around with their heads down.


They'll definitely stomp it into the dirt if nothing else. Trouble-makers!
Posted By: stxranchman

Re: Keep Cattle OUT, Let Hogs IN - 09/07/18 10:52 PM

Originally Posted By: QuitShootinYoungBucks
Originally Posted By: Dalroo
I had cattle on my place for a while. Had feeders inside two strands of wire - no corner posts (like previous poster) just t-posts and then an angled post from ground to strengthen the corners. Never has a problem with the cattle getting into the pen, but they did scarf up every kernel that landed outside the wire.

Have also watched hundreds of deer either go over, or go under. Never seen one get hung up.



Are you sure it was the cows that ate the corn? Cows, due to their big mouths, have a hard time picking up corn off the ground, especially individual kernels.

I have watched a couple of really old cows lick dirt and corn up off the ground and swallow it all. Most issue are with overstocked cattle on a ranch that can not support the numbers. Most cattle won't try but a few will.
Posted By: stxranchman

Re: Keep Cattle OUT, Let Hogs IN - 09/07/18 10:58 PM

Originally Posted By: Simple Searcher
Originally Posted By: Red Pill
Originally Posted By: colt45
Originally Posted By: Red Pill
Three strands of barbed wire. Doesn't have to be super tight. I have mine with t-posts at the corners, tied to angled t-post anchors. It works. The cattle don't get in, the deer and hogs do.
roflmao
Originally Posted By: colt45
Originally Posted By: Red Pill
Three strands of barbed wire. Doesn't have to be super tight. I have mine with t-posts at the corners, tied to angled t-post anchors. It works. The cattle don't get in, the deer and hogs do.
roflmao


In four years, not one pic of cattle in the pen. Lots of pics of them outside the pen.

Entire ranches are built that way, works good.

I had no trouble keeping this bull inside a 5 wire perimeter fence. I did have a problem keeping him out of a 34" tall hog panel feed pen with only a corn feeder in it.

He tore the panels up getting in and out till it was nocked down finally after I had repaired it once. He left this message for me on the trail cam.

I finally had to put up a 50" tall cattle panel pen. No problems after I did that. Very lightly stocked cattle numbers at that time due to prolonged years of drought. A 5 pasture rotation with 1 cow per 25 acres on a place with good grass cover and very little brush.
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