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Neighbors Hunting the Property line.

Posted By: Wreckem04

Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 11/30/15 09:25 PM

all right gents need your thoughts!

me and my buddy hunt a 100 acre track in OK. On the north fence line of our property the is a high line that divides our property and our neighbors. our neighbors put in a blind about 15 feet off our fence line and a feeder just on the other side of the high line about 50ish yards away firing into their property. their property is about 300 acres. when we were up there for the rifle opener they must have fired at least 5 times in 3 hunts and killed a 2yrd 7 point that we ( me and my hunting buddy) had marked off limits to let him grow. we went over and introduced ourselves to them 1. to be neighborly and 2. to confirm our suspicion that they took the 7 point since we had just seen him heading that direction about 10 minutes prior to hearing the shot. Well it was confirmed that they had harvested the buck upon our arrival. We had a friendly conversation with them, and explained to them that we were trying to manage the heard with food plots and protein on our side and not shoot young deer and their response was pretty much its their property and they can shoot what they want.....

So, my question to ya'll! since they are not wanting to join in our school of thought, which i completely understand is their right and their land, but is there any tricks or ideas that ya'll have used in the past to deter deer from their feeder/blind? to force them to move it??? I thinkin of make a spot on our side of the fence line just behind their blind our bone yard and gut pile dump! i want to be ethical but at the same time i dont think its right for them to be hunting the fence line like that.

let me know what ya'll think?
Posted By: don k

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 11/30/15 09:37 PM

With a 100 acres I would think you are SOL on anything you do except HF.
Posted By: Wreckem04

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 11/30/15 09:41 PM

well its family land which means its free to hunt! i get that we'll all see the same deer but they could at least move their blind to where their shots dont spook the deer at our feeder.
Posted By: jsplinter

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 11/30/15 09:44 PM

I have no advice but to continue to be neighborly. When I first got on my 10 acres I noticed the neighbors had a box blind set up about 15 ft off the fence line. They don't have a feeder and it is aimed directly at the previous owners feeder on my side of the fence. I talked to them and told them we are the new owners. Hopefully knowing we are out there all the time will keep them from hunting our feeders. One thing you could do though is show some pictures off your game cam of some big bucks, even if nocturnal, tell them that's what we can have running all over the place if we implement a deer management program.
Posted By: jsplinter

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 11/30/15 09:45 PM

Originally Posted By: Wreckem04
well its family land which means its free to hunt! i get that we'll all see the same deer but they could at least move their blind to where their shots dont spook the deer at our feeder.

I thought the same thing. I have a post on here about the downfalls of small tracts. My neighbors kids were out shooting for fun last week. 30 minutes later my girlfriend shot a 9 point.
Posted By: Navasot

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 11/30/15 09:45 PM

You could plant a 10acre+ food plot on your side that would help.. but really they will still see the same deer you are since they roam so much... dosnt matter if they shoot him at yalls fence or in the middle of their property. youll still have plenty of deer they cant shoot them all. I like highline cuts myself id be doing the same things and sounds like they are being safe about it shooting into their property
Posted By: Wreckem04

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 11/30/15 09:57 PM

yea bigger food plot is going in this spring!

yea i know its a weird post. we tried the neighborly approach, introduction, congrats, discussed with them as to what we had going on our side and the deer we've been seeing, and watching. all were met with a go scratch attitude. so going off their statement of its on OUR SIDE i was trying to come up with something that can be done on OUR SIDE.. i'm not to proud of it but when you're out there with your kids trying to get them in to hunting and the neighbors are blasting away so close scaring off the game its quite frustrating.
Posted By: dkershen

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 11/30/15 09:57 PM

Since they are shooting into their property, they are in their rights to hunt the setup you described. Small properties like yours are pretty much impossible to manage. Just understand that free hunting on a small tract is what it is....
Posted By: Someone

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 11/30/15 09:58 PM

Originally Posted By: Wreckem04
100 acre track in OK.


I believe I have isolated the source of your issue
Posted By: ddmm

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 11/30/15 10:02 PM

should have met them before season started to find out what type of hunters they are. It's their land and, like said above, they put their feeder so they are shooting away from you. You're going to aggravate yourself trying to control something you can't control.
Take the time and enjoy what you have.
Posted By: cabosandinh

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 11/30/15 10:05 PM

you're being nosy about what they do on their land

deer does not belong to you, manage what you can , and shoot what you can

don't let a stinking deer ruin your day

the best you can do is provide more cover and more food, that's what I did
on my land and I am seeing more bucks in the last month than I did all year.
I am talking all over AR legal, 8,10,11, 12 pts not counting the 6s

I would have a problem if one of my neighbor wants to tell me what I should shoot or do
on my land, ,,, I'll show him where to go , real quick
Posted By: Wreckem04

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 11/30/15 10:09 PM

its not so much what they are shooting. trust me i get that deer roam and no one owns them. my frustration is that they are so close to use when they shoot it ruins our hunts. we have 100 acres they have 300. don't really see the reason why they can move off the fence a bit. thats all we proposed. we've been on the property before, there are several other great setup spots.
Posted By: KennyLee

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 11/30/15 10:16 PM

At different times, I've had several feeders set back not far from neighbors that weren't really huntable, being set in very heavy brush. Only way to find them was to know where they were or hear them go off. They dumped a ton of corn about an hour before light, again 30 min before light, and again at first light.

I'll never know how much they disrupted traffic, but I do know they were heavily visited.
Posted By: huntwest

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 11/30/15 10:40 PM

100 or 300 acres is not much land. Sometimes it is better to have a neighbor with a blind on your fence and a feeder sitting inside their land farther. It is safer for you that way with them shooting to the interior of their place. As far as management, your out of luck. I have a couple of small tracts(300) acres and wouldn't ever try to tell my neighbors how to hunt their land.
A big food plot in the center of your land would help but not allow you manage much.
Posted By: TXGH

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 11/30/15 11:19 PM

I would save your urine for a while and dump it right on your property line every two weeks. The deer wont travel there for long..
Posted By: 8pointdrop

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 11/30/15 11:19 PM

On 100 acres you and the neighbor are both hunting the same deer anyway
Posted By: huntwest

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 11/30/15 11:28 PM

Originally Posted By: jtprocaddie
I would save your urine for a while and dump it right on your property line every two weeks. The deer wont travel there for long..


That's real neighborly. Plus it won't work.
Posted By: 8pointdrop

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 11/30/15 11:33 PM

Originally Posted By: jtprocaddie
I would save your urine for a while and dump it right on your property line every two weeks. The deer wont travel there for long..

Next scrape you find pee in it and check it later. Bucks for sure aren't scared of the smell.
Posted By: TexFlip

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 11/30/15 11:33 PM

Buy them out.
Posted By: SapperTitan

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 11/30/15 11:41 PM

People on 1000 acres hunt the same deer. I think your expectations out way reality.
Posted By: huntwest

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 11/30/15 11:44 PM

I pead in my cousins deer feeder once a week for almost a whole season. It never slowed the deer down.
We pranked each other for years at our ranch. Had plenty of places to hunt.
He poured 5 bottles of Brute aftershave around one of mine, the deer acted real funny around it but after a week they were back eating corn.
It might scare them for a day bit not much more.
Posted By: QuitShootinYoungBucks

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 11/30/15 11:48 PM

Originally Posted By: Wreckem04
its not so much what they are shooting. trust me i get that deer roam and no one owns them. my frustration is that they are so close to use when they shoot it ruins our hunts. we have 100 acres they have 300. don't really see the reason why they can move off the fence a bit. thats all we proposed. we've been on the property before, there are several other great setup spots.


100 acres isn't all that small-how close are you to the fence, and what is 'ruining' your hunt? Are you watching deer that run off when they shoot, or do you just not like hearing the shots? If they move 200 yards you're still going to hear the shots, as are the deer.
Posted By: BigPig

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 11/30/15 11:50 PM

Id put one up 15 feet from the fence by there stand, that way you could at least have somebody to talk to while hunting, you know, be neighborly.

I would try focusing your feeding on the opposite side of the property. Trying to create different game trails for them to take. Either way you're not going to control the other hunters and are pretty much stuck with what you've got. Be happy it's free, we left our free place because of the same issues even though we were hunting 1300 acres, along with whoever felt like they wanted to hunt it (no gates & no fences)
Posted By: Pitchfork Predator

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 11/30/15 11:56 PM

If I were you I would move your blind to other locations inside your property away from them.

Create food plots inside your property away from them.

Create a fence line road on the side they border and use it to travel back and forth on your property and to park on while hunting your other sets.
Posted By: BOONER

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 11/30/15 11:58 PM

Originally Posted By: huntwest
Originally Posted By: jtprocaddie
I would save your urine for a while and dump it right on your property line every two weeks. The deer wont travel there for long..


That's real neighborly. Plus it won't work.


Lol! Very true on both points 8pt. I never understood why someone would get upset over a blind near a fence line. I would much rather the blind be on the fence than a feeder. Sounds like they are playing by the rules and I would just keep being friendly. A lot of folks love to hunt and don't care so much about B&C scores.
Posted By: Dalee7892

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 12/01/15 12:00 AM

I have heard that human hair will chase deer away. Don't know if true, go to the barber and get a sack full.
Not to be nasty but it could start a deer war.
Posted By: dkershen

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 12/01/15 12:04 AM

Originally Posted By: huntwest
I pead in my cousins deer feeder once a week for almost a whole season. It never slowed the deer down.
We pranked each other for years at our ranch. Had plenty of places to hunt.
He poured 5 bottles of Brute aftershave around one of mine, the deer acted real funny around it but after a week they were back eating corn.
It might scare them for a day bit not much more.


Glad I'm not your cousin.... wink
Posted By: jsplinter

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 12/01/15 12:05 AM

Or you could just hunt and be happy you own 100 acres. I have a 1/10th of that am happy I have what o can call my own land and some deer that pass through every once in a while
Posted By: Texas buckeye

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 12/01/15 12:26 AM

About the only ethical thing you can do it put up a high fence on that side, and possibly on three sides to try and keep deer from moving on their property.

But I bet you would see a decrease in your deer sightings as well!

Who is to say that 7 pt 2 yo buck wasn't bedding down on their property or killing their feeder so they felt they needed to kill it to manage "their" herd of deer?

With only 100 acres, you are not going to make significant management practices take hold unless you have all the neighbors on board (you don't) and they are doing the same things you are doing (they aren't). So, I would recommend you just enjoy hunting and come to the quick realization that this 100 acre spot isn't going to be a trophy spot but just a fun hunting spot. It will make for much less heartache and you will enjoy the spot a lot more. Having said that, making the place more interesting for deer will be fun in and of itself...
Posted By: Wreckem04

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 12/01/15 01:33 AM

Their shots are spooking our deer at one of our stands but if I was to move mine farther from them that would spook the deer at my other location.
Posted By: Wreckem04

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 12/01/15 01:37 AM

Like I said earlier it's not so much them not wanting to follow our management thoughts. I mean they have every right to kill a deer that they see fit. It's more so them being so close to us that their gun shots spook our deer away.
Posted By: ILikeRugers2

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 12/01/15 02:36 AM

Originally Posted By: ddmm
You're going to aggravate yourself trying to control something you can't control.
Take the time and enjoy what you have.


I agree with this. I hunt an even smaller free place. You just have to enjoy it, do the best you can on your side and let the other side go. I used to go crazy watching four wheeler races at daylight, truck hunting, shooting competitions and all other types of unimaginable behavoir during hunting season as well as mass executions of all animals in sight...all after I carefully snuck into my stand super early and fed year round. Opening weekend of any season was a joke. Had to let it go and just out hunt them.

Go every chance you get and it will pay off.

Try not to compromise your goals because of the neighbors. You won't get a deer every year but when you do it will be so much more rewarding. Hang in there and don't try to sabotage anyone.
Posted By: ChrisB

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 12/01/15 03:00 AM

Learn to bow hunt and don't go during their short gun season.
Posted By: Texas buckeye

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 12/01/15 03:01 AM

That's the problem right there, you think the deer on your property are your deer. They aren't. They are state property. even so, spooking deer happens everywhere. There are noises all the time in the wild, a gun shot
Is just a noise to a deer and if it doesn't hurt the deer, the deer doesn't know a gun shot from a thunder roll. They will act spooked but it no worse than a neighbor running their 4 wheeler, the oil/gas guys driving in, etc, etc....things happen and you just have to roll with it. If you aren't happy hunting there then don't hunt there. You can control that. But don't worry about things you have no control over. Makes for a very long and frustrating life
cheers
Posted By: Texas buckeye

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 12/01/15 03:03 AM

Originally Posted By: ChrisB
Learn to bow hunt and don't go during their short gun season.


This was my response to increasing deer pressure last year around my
Place. Unfortunately it was so hot and dry this bow season we didn't get anything, but it was still fun. There's always next year and until then we will gun hunt the best we can.

Stuff happens, just gotta roll with it!
Posted By: Yardboy

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 12/01/15 03:06 AM

I have a few friends from Oklahoma and according to them, there's only two seasons in Oklahoma...






Salt & pepper.
Posted By: Texas buckeye

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 12/01/15 03:13 AM

roflmao
Posted By: Ranch Dog

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 12/01/15 04:02 AM

Over the last couple of years my fence pressure has increased. I do a couple of things to minimize the impact that fence hunters will have on my place.
  1. Food plots - Spring & fall. My place is a rectangle so I brought a bulldozer in and ran a 60' sendero up the middle of it lengthwise and the same across the middle of it crosswise so my place is kind of quartered now. This "cross" is always planted and never hunted. I picked up some pressure on the NW quadrant last year so I had a 20' strip cut the length of that quarter 100 yards in from the fence but parallel to it. It is now planted like the others and not hunted as well.
  2. Fence lines - My fence lines are clear and wide. I maintain them throughout the year to keep them clean. I want a deer to feel exposed if he wanders out of my place, most of the neighboring pressure is from places that have little habitat.
  3. Feeders - I don't feed from March through July because my food plots do so well but when I start, I put the wood to it. Every feeder puts out 10# a day. I also spend a lot of time in the month before deer season out on my fence lines listening to feeder and the times they go off, both morning & evening. I want to have a jump on theirs and feed more. I also will use multiple settings to feed in the predawn hours to hold deer in troubled areas.
  4. Prescribed Burns - The end of hunting season means that I get busy preparing and completing prescribed burns. I rotate blocks of habitat so that I get a complete burn of the place every six years. The benefits of this are too huge to go into here. I started with help from TPWD but do it on my own now.
  5. Stop mowing before hunting season - In that I live in hunting country I see a lot of landowner/hunters sprucing their places up and they are always out there with a tractor & shredder. My fences are clear as I described in the last point but I don't mow anything after about mid summer. I've learned it is really important to make your place as inviting as possible for the deer & unmowed roads and senderos are part of that.
  6. I do not pressure my place - I don't hunt it constantly, I hunt it quietly, and I hunt it carefully so that I don't pressure deer off my place. If I could put a muffler on my motors/spinners I would.
  7. Keep your ears open - You never know what you are going to hear and who you will hear it from. It might be a tank truck or school bus driver, well gauger, or cow guy but someone knows what really is going on across the fence. I'm not a nosey guy but had the guy with the cows on the problem place approach me at the feed store and tell me all the all that was going on next door. It was great intelligence and helped form my approach to limiting the effect of their pressure on my place.
  8. Finally - It is what it is and you can only do so much. All the above is really not a huge effort, just small stuff that adds up.
I did have a neighbor get to me this year. Placed a feeder 15' from my fence, shooting towards the fence, and all he has is an open coastal pasture with absolutely no habit. One of my good friends is a GW and shoots on my range. He saw it and told me to call if the guy shoots but I told him I didn't think it would be an issue. What I did was piss in a milk jug for two months. Every other day I would drive along the fence in my Mule and pour the collection out 150 yards on each side of the stand/feeder. At about the 40 day mark the feeder went empty and the corn was rotting underneath. We had a big windstorm and it blew over and is still laying in the mud. A couple of days later I told my wife it really feels strange to pee in a toilet and not a milk jug!

So you don't think I'm a total jerk, I have a neighbor on the other side of me. He has 9 or so acres with no habitat but the wants to hunt the land he lives on. He took a different approach by contacting me and to see what I thought about a feeder very close to my fence as there is nowhere else to put it, it is just as close as the other. I told him I appreciated him saying something about it, that he did not need my permission, and I wished him the best of luck. In this situation, I depend on my property's health to win and his hunting pressure to curtail what happens. Lucky for him, he did kill a spike. He is a good neighbor, always ready to pitch in. I trust him to always do the right thing. May be the guy on the other side is just as good but with the setup shooting directly into my place and not warning me, I already don't trust him.

All of my hunting setups are constructed so that I'm shooting towards the center of my property. So naturally my blinds are closer to the fenceline but are not on them or in sight of the them. That causes me to travel and park on the fence lines and walk into the hunting area. My lines of travel and parking areas are concentrated on the problem spots. The troubling feeder mentioned above is 15 yards from where I have parked for 10 years so you can guess where my truck was on the opening weekend of bow season and every weekend since. Just like the neighbors are using their property as they see fit, so do I and I make no apologies or adjustment on their behalf.
Posted By: Ramsey

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 12/01/15 04:10 AM

You do have leverage if you choose to use it. Ask them to move back a bit for next season. If they do not want to. Let them know they cant come on your property if they have to track a deer.
Posted By: cattle69

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 12/01/15 04:42 AM

Had neighbors put up a stand and feeder right on our north fence line. So I put up this pop blind right next to it to prove a point. Hopefully they will get the picture. People who hunt fence lines are perfectly legal. There is also no law against it, just like there is no law against sneaking a peak at your neighbors wiener at the urinal. But I will tell you neither should be tolerated in my book.
Posted By: TxDispatcher

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 12/01/15 07:09 AM

Originally Posted By: Wreckem04
Their shots are spooking our deer at one of our stands but if I was to move mine farther from them that would spook the deer at my other location.

So they should accommodate you by moving their stand? Why? If they came to you with the exact same proposition, would you do it, and mess up you "other" spot? I highly doubt it. Enjoy your 100 acres and quit worrying about what others do on their land. I hear shots every week here at the house, and I guess which deer it may be that was killed...not once have I EVER thought "I need to go tell those hunters that we decided to let that young buck grow, so they need to agree with me and do what I do" grin
Posted By: Auctioneer1

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 12/01/15 12:30 PM

Originally Posted By: Wreckem04
Like I said earlier it's not so much them not wanting to follow our management thoughts. I mean they have every right to kill a deer that they see fit. It's more so them being so close to us that their gun shots spook our deer away.


So if he moves a couple hundred yards away do you think it would still scare your deer? I mean how far would you like them to move on their land so your deer don't get scared? Have you thought about you shooting and scaring their deer at the feeder? Have you thought about moving your blind? Not trying to be a azz here but your never going to be happy trying to do what you want on small tracks of land. Just go hunting enjoy it and do the right thing.
Posted By: Ranch Dog

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 12/01/15 02:16 PM

Originally Posted By: cattle69
Had neighbors put up a stand and feeder right on our north fence line. So I put up this pop blind right next to it to prove a point. Hopefully they will get the picture. People who hunt fence lines are perfectly legal. There is also no law against it, just like there is no law against sneaking a peak at your neighbors wiener at the urinal. But I will tell you neither should be tolerated in my book.

Exactly! If my pee treatment wouldn't have worked, I would have moved a 15' tower blind to the fence line. Would have taken me less than 15 minutes with the front end loader and pallet forks.
Posted By: Navasot

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 12/01/15 02:18 PM

Originally Posted By: cattle69
Had neighbors put up a stand and feeder right on our north fence line. So I put up this pop blind right next to it to prove a point. Hopefully they will get the picture. People who hunt fence lines are perfectly legal. There is also no law against it, just like there is no law against sneaking a peak at your neighbors wiener at the urinal. But I will tell you neither should be tolerated in my book.


Id just smile and wave at you
Posted By: redchevy

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 12/01/15 02:33 PM

I'd say your best bet is to keep your place quiet fed heavy and water available all the time. Save your shots for the buck you want, don't shoot a bunch of does or cull bucks etc. The deer will recognize your place isn't pressured and the neighbors is and reside more on your property.
Posted By: Navasot

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 12/01/15 02:50 PM

Don't fire a rifle or any shots... start bow hunting it... I do this with 40acres and see 3times the deer than anyone near me.. could be how much I feed could be how quiet it stays but that's my take on it...
Posted By: DQ Kid

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 12/01/15 03:04 PM

To quote my post on the "ethics" thread,

"I wouldn't confuse ethics/morality with personal choice. As long as someone is not breaking the laws, there's nothing I can do about a guy putting a blind and feeder on his property. I can only hope that he pushes deer to more stay on my property than his. If I ultimately didn't like it, I'd probably sell the property or high fence it before moaning/groaning about something I cannot control or impact."
Posted By: BenBob

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 12/01/15 03:17 PM

I would rather have them on the fence line shooting back into their property rather than in the middle of their pasture shooting towards me for safety purpose. If you are concerned with one of them shooting across the fence, that is an entirely different worry. With it only being 100 acres, these is more fence line to worry about than there are acres to hunt.
Posted By: 8pointdrop

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 12/01/15 03:42 PM

Originally Posted By: Navasot
Originally Posted By: cattle69
Had neighbors put up a stand and feeder right on our north fence line. So I put up this pop blind right next to it to prove a point. Hopefully they will get the picture. People who hunt fence lines are perfectly legal. There is also no law against it, just like there is no law against sneaking a peak at your neighbors wiener at the urinal. But I will tell you neither should be tolerated in my book.


Id just smile and wave at you

If it's my blind we're having a beer and trading game cam pics nav!!

Let's not put too much thought into simple stuff fellas. Hunt how you want, let the neighbor do the same, and the biggest kicker....just be a neighbor.
Posted By: Navasot

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 12/01/15 03:43 PM

Originally Posted By: 8pointdrop
Originally Posted By: Navasot
Originally Posted By: cattle69
Had neighbors put up a stand and feeder right on our north fence line. So I put up this pop blind right next to it to prove a point. Hopefully they will get the picture. People who hunt fence lines are perfectly legal. There is also no law against it, just like there is no law against sneaking a peak at your neighbors wiener at the urinal. But I will tell you neither should be tolerated in my book.


Id just smile and wave at you

If it's my blind we're having a beer and trading game cam pics nav!!

Let's not put too much thought into simple stuff fellas. Hunt how you want, let the neighbor do the same, and the biggest kicker....just be a neighbor.
cheers Why cant neighbors be just that
Posted By: Erathkid

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 12/01/15 03:58 PM

Opening morning of gun season our neighbors Grandson invited about 20 friends to come out and bring every weapon they own. All day blasting away and blowing up tannerite. Our neighbor was on vacation at the time, in Australia. Bullets were ricochet in and crossing our fence. It was unreal. Someone called the GW and they came out asking us about the shots because it was borderline harrasement. Neighbor gets back and I talked to him. He gets irate at me and says his Grandson can shoot any GD time he feels like it.

When I ask him why he waited for deer opener, he pretty much said to go to he%×.
Always had good relations in the past. Now he's pissed off at me and claims I called the GW. My Son made a short video of them shooting across our fence, ricochets and all. I'm sending it to him today. Neighbors, can't live with them, can't kill 'em.
Posted By: Texas Dan

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 12/01/15 05:32 PM

Originally Posted By: Texas buckeye
That's the problem right there, you think the deer on your property are your deer. They aren't. They are state property.


Does that make it ethical to throw your hook next to another guy's boat when fishing a public lake?
Posted By: cattle69

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 12/01/15 05:48 PM

We were just raised differently. My instance is a feeder right on the fence line and the point being not every deer falls where you shoot it, so why not put your feeders a couple hundred yards off the fence line to help increase the percentages that the states deer stays on your property. This is just neighborly and common sense.
Posted By: Texas buckeye

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 12/01/15 06:41 PM

Originally Posted By: Texas Dan
Originally Posted By: Texas buckeye
That's the problem right there, you think the deer on your property are your deer. They aren't. They are state property.


Does that make it ethical to throw your hook next to another guy's boat when fishing a public lake?


Not saying I would do that, but if I was fishing and someone did that to me, I would give them a look, pull anchor and drive my boat away. Wouldn't say two peeps to them. Its not like I own the place or the fish under there. Now if it were my kid or wife who threw their hook near mine, I wouldn't bat an eye unless they crossed my line, and then I would just untangle the two lines.

Sure as heck wouldn't whip out my *ick out and piss in the water to scare the fish away hammer
Posted By: Navasot

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 12/01/15 06:42 PM

Originally Posted By: Texas Dan
Originally Posted By: Texas buckeye
That's the problem right there, you think the deer on your property are your deer. They aren't. They are state property.


Does that make it ethical to throw your hook next to another guy's boat when fishing a public lake?


Gota fish were the fish are
Posted By: Gemlin

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 12/01/15 07:00 PM

Ive seen a lease manager try to tell the neighbor what to shoot and how to set up blinds.

Next weekend there were 2 blind on the fence line and they told lease manager was brown its down.

Lesson, its best to keep mouth shut

Posted By: Lipan Creep

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 12/01/15 07:57 PM

I've positioned blinds right on fence lines. I was hunting milo and cotton fields that bordered large ranches. The deer would only come across onto our farmland right at dusk. So the only chance you had at getting a deer was on the fence line as they came across. The only safe way to hunt was to position the blind on the fence line so the projectile would not go across the fence. (safety first)

It worked good until the ranchers got pissed and high fenced their land. The deer hunting sucks now but we grow some pretty cotton now. clap
Posted By: GimmeABuck

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 12/01/15 08:52 PM

We've been "talked to" by a neighbor (who does seem like a genuinely nice guy overall) about running our UTV, as we have to pass his property to get to ours at this time. We don't exactly have a choice.... I have a different neighbor who loves to play Yote calls at dusk, spooking everything off, drives me insane. We have neighbors who target practice like crazy and sometimes we are "those" neighbors. We all irritate the crap out of each other, but we all deal with each other and there's not much I wouldn't do for em if they needed. Don't let it get to ya, it is what it is and can't be changed. Such is the way of the small parcels!
Posted By: Regular Guy

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 12/02/15 12:46 AM

Originally Posted By: jtprocaddie
I would save your urine for a while and dump it right on your property line every two weeks. The deer wont travel there for long..


Rotf... maybe some coyote urine and things like that. Dryer sheets, fabric softner rotfl...

They may have just picked the spot based on the seasonal winds. I can't imagine why they would setup anywhere else if that is the case. I hope ya'll can work it out and still be friendly.
Posted By: DH3

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 12/02/15 12:59 AM

I would post a warning sign..."Young Deer , Do Not Go On The Other Side Of this Fence" Good Eats, This Side, Other Side is trouble.
That should do it! cheers
Posted By: BenBob

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 12/02/15 02:10 PM

If you own both sides of the fence, you can get something done. If you don't, you are spinning your wheels.
Posted By: Stump_jumper

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 12/02/15 06:54 PM

I do not think the bone dump will have any effect. I have a pic of a young buck that is chewing on a bone from our pig dump. I had a lease once near HYE and the lady next door leased 60 acres of pasture to 3 dudes. Only choice they really had was our fence line. We all peed in gallon jugs and dumped under their feeders at night. We figured out that human hair was the best deer repellent. It carries a lot of scent and does not dry up like P.
Posted By: Navasot

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 12/02/15 06:55 PM

Originally Posted By: Stump_jumper
I do not think the bone dump will have any effect. I have a pic of a young buck that is chewing on a bone from our pig dump. I had a lease once near HYE and the lady next door leased 60 acres of pasture to 3 dudes. Only choice they really had was our fence line. We all peed in gallon jugs and dumped under their feeders at night. We figured out that human hair was the best deer repellent. It carries a lot of scent and does not dry up like P.


Now who is being a bad neighbor....
Posted By: RangerRick

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 12/02/15 07:13 PM

So your place is "small" to many, but F&S latest issue had good article on Older bucks keeping smaller acreage than previously thought.Some not even leaving areas any bigger than 50-250 acres. Now to be fair the study was done in Pennsylvania and Wisconsin...meh not quite Texas I know...still they are deer right? Anyway, they also said hunt your food plots hard in December. They said older bucks are more concerned about food than does in December. I know our warmer weather in our parts of nation has does cycling until "bred" as late as February(another report I read awhile back). But this was old mature we out smarted all the local hunters for years type Bucks!
I think if you get in any passive aggressive situation with the neighbors it will escalate to silliness and ruin both Y'all seasons. Hard to make any man do anything he doesn't want to even when he knows he is wrong but especially if he thinks he is being challenged(why we have jails unfortunately). You have a small place hunt it for what it is and what you can. Anything else ..you might need to look at other options locations to hunt! There are regulations, interpreted differently by many, on hunting on posted property lines I believe. Some Stakes and purple paint? I don't know ,maybe the "internet lawyers" here know if it has to be strung as well!
Posted By: maximus_flavius

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 12/02/15 11:07 PM

Originally Posted By: Navasot
Originally Posted By: Stump_jumper
I do not think the bone dump will have any effect. I have a pic of a young buck that is chewing on a bone from our pig dump. I had a lease once near HYE and the lady next door leased 60 acres of pasture to 3 dudes. Only choice they really had was our fence line. We all peed in gallon jugs and dumped under their feeders at night. We figured out that human hair was the best deer repellent. It carries a lot of scent and does not dry up like P.


Now who is being a bad neighbor....


Um, the 3 guys hunting 60 acres, right on their neighbors fence line.

If you'd let me know where your lease is, I'll lease 60 acres right next to it, put 3 guys in there, & make sure they put their stands on your fence line. Then maybe you will understand.

But I kinda doubt it........
Posted By: TTUGrad08

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 12/02/15 11:44 PM

Originally Posted By: TexFlip
Buy them out.
Posted By: Navasot

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 12/03/15 03:05 AM

Originally Posted By: maximus_flavius
Originally Posted By: Navasot
Originally Posted By: Stump_jumper
I do not think the bone dump will have any effect. I have a pic of a young buck that is chewing on a bone from our pig dump. I had a lease once near HYE and the lady next door leased 60 acres of pasture to 3 dudes. Only choice they really had was our fence line. We all peed in gallon jugs and dumped under their feeders at night. We figured out that human hair was the best deer repellent. It carries a lot of scent and does not dry up like P.


Now who is being a bad neighbor....


Um, the 3 guys hunting 60 acres, right on their neighbors fence line.

If you'd let me know where your lease is, I'll lease 60 acres right next to it, put 3 guys in there, & make sure they put their stands on your fence line. Then maybe you will understand.

But I kinda doubt it........


Lol lifes to short fella.. I have hunters all around me on same or smaller properties with more than three on some.. Iv been watching a nice 3yr old 8 since season started.. Some nice oler deer running around also but lots of nice 2-3yr old bucks.. I passed him more than a dozen times never had a thought of shooting him.. He walks from my stand to the neighbors last weekend and boom.. Knew it was him walked over after I saw them head to the house looked at the buck and congratulated them.. The guy was pumped and was his biggest deer to date... That is what it's about.. Not crying because you feel like you got cheated out of something you very well could have took for yourself.. I was just as happy to see that buck I been watching make someone's day than me shooting one myself.. Stop and take a breath... Enjoy the fact that your hunting.. Don't let the little things get you down
Posted By: Navasot

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 12/03/15 03:12 AM

Oh just to add that was some folks that live on 15acres and let their kids/grandkids come and hunt..
Posted By: maximus_flavius

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 12/03/15 03:44 AM

Originally Posted By: Navasot
Lol lifes to short fella.. I have hunters all around me on same or smaller properties with more than three on some.. Iv been watching a nice 3yr old 8 since season started.. Some nice oler deer running around also but lots of nice 2-3yr old bucks.. I passed him more than a dozen times never had a thought of shooting him.. He walks from my stand to the neighbors last weekend and boom.. Knew it was him walked over after I saw them head to the house looked at the buck and congratulated them.. The guy was pumped and was his biggest deer to date... That is what it's about.. Not crying because you feel like you got cheated out of something you very well could have took for yourself.. I was just as happy to see that buck I been watching make someone's day than me shooting one myself.. Stop and take a breath... Enjoy the fact that your hunting.. Don't let the little things get you down


Your 100% correct, life is too short. Nobody is crying or saying they got cheated. If your happy with the type of hunting you described, more power to you. Personally, I would never hunt like that.

Having so many neighbors that shoot an underage buck is not gonna lead to a better future for deer in the area. To me, that's what it's all about. You sound like a decent fella, who does believe in some type of management, so you can't be all bad.
Posted By: texassippi

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 12/03/15 03:48 AM

Originally Posted By: Navasot


Lol lifes to short fella..
Posted By: Navasot

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 12/03/15 03:50 AM

Originally Posted By: maximus_flavius
Originally Posted By: Navasot
Lol lifes to short fella.. I have hunters all around me on same or smaller properties with more than three on some.. Iv been watching a nice 3yr old 8 since season started.. Some nice oler deer running around also but lots of nice 2-3yr old bucks.. I passed him more than a dozen times never had a thought of shooting him.. He walks from my stand to the neighbors last weekend and boom.. Knew it was him walked over after I saw them head to the house looked at the buck and congratulated them.. The guy was pumped and was his biggest deer to date... That is what it's about.. Not crying because you feel like you got cheated out of something you very well could have took for yourself.. I was just as happy to see that buck I been watching make someone's day than me shooting one myself.. Stop and take a breath... Enjoy the fact that your hunting.. Don't let the little things get you down


Your 100% correct, life is too short. Nobody is crying or saying they got cheated. If your happy with the type of hunting you described, more power to you. Personally, I would never hunt like that.

Having so many neighbors that shoot an underage buck is not gonna lead to a better future for deer in the area. To me, that's what it's all about. You sound like a decent fella, who does believe in some type of management, so you can't be all bad.


cheers if we all walked in the same foot step it would be a boring world
Posted By: huntwest

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 12/03/15 04:16 AM

This has been an entertaining thread. Hard to believe that anyone thinks they can tell another adult on a piece of property they don't own what they need to do. I can promise anyone who cares that you will never change your neighbors way of doing things and will only cause a small problem to explode into a large problem by doing so.
It is best to try to get along with them and not worry about it unless they are breaking a law.
no matter how big or small the place you always will have neighbors.
Posted By: bp3

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 12/03/15 05:33 AM

I think that's called trespassing pouring urine around their feeders. Some one might mistake you for a feral hog. rifle
Posted By: Jungleexplorer

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 12/03/15 03:10 PM

I understand your situation and am in the same boat myself. About the only thing you can do is to create sanctuary and overfeed the deer on your land. This is what I do. If you have deer that you don't want get shot, then don't give them a reason to leave your land. Mark off a section of your land with thick woods where the deer like to bed down as a sanctuary and never enter that area for any reason. Just outside the sanctuary, put in a free feeder that the deer can go to and get their fill. Deer only wander to find more food. If they get their fill at your feeder, they won't go anywhere else. I dump out a 50lb bag of at least once a week, and this is aside from running my feeder 4 times a day.

Another thing you can do is find a food that deer love that is scarce or does not exist in you area. For instance, in my area there are no acorns. So I gather acorns by the hundreds of pounds from other areas and put out a 5 gallon bucket each day. My deer will not leave until the have eaten every single acorn. They will stay out all day long eating them. It also brings in many deer from neighboring lands. You might find something like this for your land.

Last year I did a test of the most common deer attractants. I prepared three different spots with three game cameras to monitor these spots with two attractants each to see if one out performed the other. After 4 months of monitoring, my research showed that the deer paid minimal or no attention to these deer attractants. None of them did better then the other and no deer showed more then just a casual passing curiosity. In another spot I dumped real acorns. In the spot with the real acorns I got hundreds of pictures a day at all times of the day, but in the areas where the attractants were, some of which were less then 50 yards away, I would get none or only a couple pictures a day of deer passing by, but not stopping at the attractant spots. So I personally believe that the claims made on these attractant packages are a bunch of hogwash, and I will never spend a dime on them again. Sure in states where people do not have the option of feeding deer, they may be forced to use them, but deer prefer real food if you can give it to them.


Here are the attractants that I used in the test if you are interested. These were the highest rated attractants I could find on amazon.com









Posted By: Dustnsand

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 12/03/15 04:55 PM

Originally Posted By: maximus_flavius
Originally Posted By: Navasot
Originally Posted By: Stump_jumper
I do not think the bone dump will have any effect. I have a pic of a young buck that is chewing on a bone from our pig dump. I had a lease once near HYE and the lady next door leased 60 acres of pasture to 3 dudes. Only choice they really had was our fence line. We all peed in gallon jugs and dumped under their feeders at night. We figured out that human hair was the best deer repellent. It carries a lot of scent and does not dry up like P.


Now who is being a bad neighbor....


Um, the 3 guys hunting 60 acres, right on their neighbors fence line.

If you'd let me know where your lease is, I'll lease 60 acres right next to it, put 3 guys in there, & make sure they put their stands on your fence line. Then maybe you will understand.

But I kinda doubt it........


Unreal. 3 guys on 60 acres of course they are going to be backed up to a fence somewhere. They are the bad ones though and not the ahole who goes and messes with their stuff, breaking the law in the process?
Posted By: txhunter1010

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 12/03/15 05:40 PM

it is frustrating when a neighbor is on the fence line...we have one that put up his feeder not 20 yards from the fence and a pop up blind about 75 away from that....if he shot at something by the feeder his bullet would cross our fence if he missed or passed through...I sent a nice letter to the owners and even the included the law about projectiles crossing the fence...all I asked was if they could possibly move the feeder 50 to 100 yards further away from the fence line and all would be good...(and yes they have plenty of room to do that) and guess what...the feeder hasn't moved an inch and all the guy did was build a tower stand...about 125 yards away from the feeder but it is about 50 yards off the fence.....it just ticks me off.......we did move an extra stand that he can see directly from his stand and is about 45 yards from his feeder...just to make him wonder...
Posted By: Stump_jumper

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 12/03/15 06:40 PM

Originally Posted By: maximus_flavius
Originally Posted By: Navasot
Originally Posted By: Stump_jumper
I do not think the bone dump will have any effect. I have a pic of a young buck that is chewing on a bone from our pig dump. I had a lease once near HYE and the lady next door leased 60 acres of pasture to 3 dudes. Only choice they really had was our fence line. We all peed in gallon jugs and dumped under their feeders at night. We figured out that human hair was the best deer repellent. It carries a lot of scent and does not dry up like P.


Now who is being a bad neighbor....


Um, the 3 guys hunting 60 acres, right on their neighbors fence line.

If you'd let me know where your lease is, I'll lease 60 acres right next to it, put 3 guys in there, & make sure they put their stands on your fence line. Then maybe you will understand.

But I kinda doubt it........
I do not hunt the place any longer. Number 1 60 acres is much too small for 3 people, number 2 an open pasture with 10 cedar trees bordered on one side by a FM road and no resident deer should never be leased. I blame the old lady that owned the place. All of her neighbors felt the same way. We did not even have to cross the fence to pour urine under their feeders. One of the feeders was right next to a major bedding area that we tried to stay out of.
Posted By: rbw1330

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 12/04/15 07:48 PM

Make a road on the fence line and drive in and park right beside their feeder. You may have to relocate your setup but it should make it difficult for them to see anything at the feeder. With a small place like yours it will be impossible to keep deer from crossing but you can make it difficult for them to hunt the fence line. I had a similar issue with someone that had 180 acres hunting our fence line. I made a road down the fence line and we started driving it every chance we could and someone parks right beside their feeder every day we are hunting. Eventually they moved it back into their pasture and we stopped parking there.
Posted By: txhunter1010

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 12/04/15 07:53 PM

Originally Posted By: rbw1330
Make a road on the fence line and drive in and park right beside their feeder. You may have to relocate your setup but it should make it difficult for them to see anything at the feeder. With a small place like yours it will be impossible to keep deer from crossing but you can make it difficult for them to hunt the fence line. I had a similar issue with someone that had 180 acres hunting our fence line. I made a road down the fence line and we started driving it every chance we could and someone parks right beside their feeder every day we are hunting. Eventually they moved it back into their pasture and we stopped parking there.


yep this is our next step..there is already a road down that fence but it is about to become the truck and four wheeler parking area..
Posted By: Tinkle

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 12/04/15 09:19 PM

It sounds as if they are more meat hunters than trophy hunters. I would make sure to bow hunt during October and with crossbows now legal to use, you could have your kids use them instead of a bow. I would also make sure to hunt youth weekends. I would not hunt the beginning of gun season just for the fact that if they are just meat hunters, they will probably be shooting deer pretty early in the season. Good luck on your deer season and congrats on the free 100 acres to hunt. The only free land I have to hunt is all coastal fields and full of cattle.
Posted By: Dry Fire

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 12/04/15 09:25 PM

I hunted twice around Bochika, OK. The natives deer management program was strictly "If it's brown, it's down".
Posted By: Jimbo

Re: Neighbors Hunting the Property line. - 12/05/15 02:19 PM

They could move all the way to the other side of their 300 acres and it won't make a bit of difference. Being trapped on 100 acres, whatever you do to deter the deer is only going to hurt your own chances.
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