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Top 10 things needed in a written deer lease.

Posted By: shedhunter57

Top 10 things needed in a written deer lease. - 04/20/12 07:30 PM

Description of the property and actual acerage

Type of game allowed to be harvested

Methods of legal harvesting allowed on lease

Actual members who will be on lease signature

Liquiadated damage clause

Date the lease starts

Date the lease ends

Date of payment

method of notification of notices

method to resolve disputes

Place the disputes must be resolved, aka what county?

Guests allowed, who when and where

Amount of liab insurance required by lessee

Type of atv utv trucks allowed

who is responsible for road maintance?

Who is responsible for keeping harvest records? where, when due etc etc?

When must notice of renewal be given??

Where and how must the lessee acces the lease,

Will cattle be allowed?

Will cattle be worked on hunting weekends??

How many cattle allowed during drought conditins??

Placement of hunting blinds, near a fence, camp, feeder, no tree blindss, etc etc??

Amount of feed required to be fed, corn vs antlermax etc etc??

Picture book of all deer harvested with bc scores and photos with weights required??

No beer allowed yes or no??

Trapping and selling of hogs allowed??

Are hirack truck blinds allowed on lease??

These are what i could think of off the top of my head, feel free to add or discuss any of them.

Posted By: txshntr

Re: Top 10 things needed in a written deer lease. - 04/20/12 07:31 PM

scratch Seems like more than 10 there

Posted By: txshntr

Re: Top 10 things needed in a written deer lease. - 04/20/12 07:34 PM

Personally, I think that some of those shouldn't be in the lease agreement and should be determined by the people hunting the lease.

We have a meeting once a year to determine what the "lease rules" will be for the next year and we do put those in writing so everyone is aware, but it is different than the "lease agreement."

IMO, the lease agreement should be worded so that it is binding through the full term of the agreement period. The "lease rules" might need to be adjusted to better fit the group or when flaws are brought to attention.

Posted By: aeb

Re: Top 10 things needed in a written deer lease. - 04/20/12 07:53 PM

"who is responsible for road maintance?"

Wow!! Didn't realize I could get my hunters to pay my dozer and road grader bills. I must not be "greedy" enough. lol444

Posted By: txshntr

Re: Top 10 things needed in a written deer lease. - 04/20/12 07:54 PM

Originally Posted By: aeb
"who is responsible for road maintance?"

Wow!! Didn't realize I could get my hunters to pay my dozer and road grader bills. I must not be "greedy" enough. lol444


You should work on that up

Posted By: DQ Kid

Re: Top 10 things needed in a written deer lease. - 04/20/12 10:28 PM

What a laundry list, I'm having a tough time socializing if these are conditions between the lessor and landowner or between the lessors themselves. Either way, I've never seen such a list but I guess this is where leasing has evolved to. Having been on leases in South Texas for 30+ years where a handshake and verbal agreement sufficed. I guess I'll stick to hunting my own property only.

Posted By: don k

Re: Top 10 things needed in a written deer lease. - 04/20/12 11:23 PM

Now I see why I don't lease for hunting. you would need a lawyer and a couple of cases of beer just to go through that before anybody would sign off on it.

Posted By: aeb

Re: Top 10 things needed in a written deer lease. - 04/21/12 02:44 AM

Originally Posted By: don k
Now I see why I don't lease for hunting. you would need a lawyer and a couple of cases of beer just to go through that before anybody would sign off on it.


#29 A lawyer.
#30 Two cases of beer.

Any thing else we need to add?? smile loco

Posted By: JKC

Re: Top 10 things needed in a written deer lease. - 04/21/12 11:36 AM

#31 2 cans of snuff

Posted By: kry226

Re: Top 10 things needed in a written deer lease. - 04/21/12 06:51 PM

Deer.

Posted By: snoopy

Re: Top 10 things needed in a written deer lease. - 04/22/12 12:00 AM

As a land owner, why would I want to "F" with it? Welcome to the new millenium and city-boy hunters.

Posted By: prohunter2011

Re: Top 10 things needed in a written deer lease. - 04/22/12 10:38 PM

dont like land owner rules,

Posted By: don k

Re: Top 10 things needed in a written deer lease. - 04/22/12 10:55 PM

Originally Posted By: prohunter2011
dont like land owner rules,
The land owner owns the property so I would think that he is the one that writes the rules.

Posted By: rifleman

Re: Top 10 things needed in a written deer lease. - 04/23/12 01:07 AM

Originally Posted By: aeb
Originally Posted By: don k
Now I see why I don't lease for hunting. you would need a lawyer and a couple of cases of beer just to go through that before anybody would sign off on it.


#29 A lawyer.
#30 Two cases of beer.

Any thing else we need to add?? smile loco


Got those covered banana

Posted By: rifleman

Re: Top 10 things needed in a written deer lease. - 04/23/12 01:13 AM

Originally Posted By: aeb
"who is responsible for road maintance?"

Wow!! Didn't realize I could get my hunters to pay my dozer and road grader bills. I must not be "greedy" enough. lol444


Might want to do it anyway and bill them for it instead of them trying to find the cheapest way possible to get it done.

Posted By: rifleman

Re: Top 10 things needed in a written deer lease. - 04/23/12 01:15 AM

When in doubt, ask the landowner.

Posted By: aeb

Re: Top 10 things needed in a written deer lease. - 04/23/12 02:21 AM

Originally Posted By: rifleman
Originally Posted By: aeb
"who is responsible for road maintance?"

Wow!! Didn't realize I could get my hunters to pay my dozer and road grader bills. I must not be "greedy" enough. lol444


Might want to do it anyway and bill them for it instead of them trying to find the cheapest way possible to get it done.


With all the oil patch business in WTX, there ain't no cheap about it. Some of them will not even talk to you about ranch work. The best you can do is get on a contractor's list and pay him whatever he asks, whenever he gets to you.

Posted By: rifleman

Re: Top 10 things needed in a written deer lease. - 04/23/12 02:28 AM

we have quite a bit of it too, part of the joys of contract & lease agreements is getting some mighty fine road base & creek crossings grin

Posted By: shedhunter57

Re: Top 10 things needed in a written deer lease. - 05/03/12 10:29 PM

Wait until you have a kid on a lease bring a 20 jeep club into a lease when it is wet and rut it up from one end to another, its happens, lots of times a guest will have a monster truck and bring it in and destroy a months worth os grader work with 2 or 3 passes around the lease, has nothing to do with being greedy, its a matter of respect the ranch roads, use them but dont abuse them, aka stay in camp and use utvs to avoid this in the first place. Grader work on my ranch cost $175 an hour and last about 2 years if not ruined usually 10 hours for touch up, if the every road is rutted up you get the picture??

Posted By: passthru

Re: Top 10 things needed in a written deer lease. - 05/18/12 05:28 PM

That's like our Boy Scout troop's 10 essential. There's 26 of them.

Posted By: duke08

Re: Top 10 things needed in a written deer lease. - 05/19/12 03:41 PM

Originally Posted By: snoopy
As a land owner, why would I want to "F" with it? Welcome to the new millenium and city-boy hunters.



HAHAHAHAHA...amen brother.

Posted By: prohunter2011

Re: Top 10 things needed in a written deer lease. - 05/19/12 04:31 PM

Well when you get a sorry money hungry land owner that just got threw screwing you. You might change your minds on just what the land owner has control of.Yes its his land but i make the rules for my group of guys.Some land owners want your money and control of your every move. And the city guy crap dont work,When your a control freak money grubbing jack Wagon thief land owner And there are some out there.

Posted By: txtrophy85

Re: Top 10 things needed in a written deer lease. - 05/19/12 04:42 PM

Originally Posted By: prohunter2011
Well when you get a sorry money hungry land owner that just got threw screwing you. You might change your minds on just what the land owner has control of.Yes its his land but i make the rules for my group of guys.Some land owners want your money and control of your every move.


well, leasing land to hunt is a privelage not a right.

if a group of leasee's tear up and shoot up a place, then leave, the landowner is left holding the bag.

When we leased, we had a great group of guys, but never once did I feel like they were thinking soely in the ranch's best interest.

it was in the contract and they paid their money, but there were instances when they were shooting 3 and 4 year old ten points. then they would shoot the biggest 8 points they could find, not shooting true managment bucks. Then they made several comments about us not feeding enough protein because every hunter didn't shoot a 160+ buck.....

One year, during severly heavy rains, we literally couldn't get a tractor into our pivot field to plant oats (it was in the contract we would do this) their lease was from Dec 1st-Dec.16th. During this year I had seen a whopper buck the second week of season that I could have shot but instead passed on, called the hunter and got him on a plane down here to hunt the buck.

that buck ended up scoring 166, the other two hunters killed their PB bucks that year, one guy wiffed a chip shot at another mid 160's buck. They also shot several nice "managment" bucks. Then they have the audacity to complain that the oats wern't planted, that it was "in the contract"

Posted By: Curtis

Re: Top 10 things needed in a written deer lease. - 05/19/12 05:35 PM

Sure glad I don't have to lease.

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