sick of TV show outside blind shot clip

how dumb do they think we are? some shows "act" it better than others, but turns me off every time they recreate the money shot filming from outside blind. half the time shooter is acting so bad he isn't nervous at all and ends it with "wow, I just shot a big deer!".

talking with my Kansas outfitter last year he said one TV show was hunting archery in shorts and tennis shoes for the actual kill, then went out the next day and "acted" the kill shot with all their camo sponsor clothes and scent spray.

Welcome to the world of big money tv sponsors, selling their products to all the gullible hunters out there.

The majority of the stuff out there now isn't needed, and never has been, but yet people have to have all the latest toys and dress the part or they don't think they are hunting.

I love it when the bolt is OPEN during the shot.

Used to have a bunch of "errors" on our DVR. Upgraded to HiDef and lost them.

Got all over Dave Matthews one time because he said on the show everything is real just the way it happened. Too bad I posted video....ON HIS SITE...that showed the bolt open during the shot!!!

The shot that always bugged me was when they film themselves walking up to the kill. The camera person is on opposite side of dead animal and they are acting like it is first time seeing animal. Some of the b.s. that is passed off is crazy.
Jake

Hunting shows are no different than porn. It never happens that way in real life...

I do like Keith Warren and Brian Quaca. Those two shows are the only ones I watch.

The Pig Hunter? I think that Pig hunter dude is annoying.

It took us 5 hours to shoot a 1 minute commercial once...and it was a truck commercial.
I think some of it is for dramatic effect, but I bet some of it is to circumvent Murphy's Law...

I remember watching a hunting show a couple years ago where the guy fired his weapon and had, literally, no recoil. He cycled his bolt and nothing came out, then he closed the bolt and fired a 2nd time. Again, he cycled the bolt and nothing came out. Both times he "fired" his rifle, there was a gunshot dubbed in. How goofy are these people who edit some of these shows!?

I have seen some real winners in the past years...one that comes to mind is a hunt on the 777 where the huntress shots at a buck on a cloudy day that is clearly not the same buck they do the recovery with on a clear day..another is a noted outdoor show where the guy shots a buck that is a 9 point as a trophy then continues on with the show and shots an 8 point management buck then after a very long tracking job the fake the recovery with the same 9 points (can tell due to browtines) and the host is holding the deer by the beam with the G4 on it and has his hand over the G4...could post a couple pages on here is what I have seen....sad...I think the best over the shoulder show is Primos and BPS Real Hunting right now as both shows are filmed as they happen-hit, miss, wound or kill.

Don't tell me you've watched porn!

oh, here's another one that comes to mind. do you notice whether rifle or bow, all Deer fall dead within 50 yards. same line every time, "he just went down right there".

X2

Couldnt agree more. The guy says "oh he just went down right there... didnt go 40 yards"

Then they wind up tracking for 5 minutes and sweat it while looking for the deer... but I thought you saw him go down!


I dont watch hunting or fishing shows anymore, would rather read the cabellas sale, it has less advertising and more pictures of deer!

matt

The pig bomb show, swamp people, and river monsters are my favorite hunting and fishing shows! No comercials and they actualy go catch fish and shoot stuff... unlike fishing and hunting shows where they just try to dupe you into buying all their useless junk!

matt

yeah i dont like watching them much anymore either...but what an awesome job it would be

I don't watch them anymore. Most are just infomercials and 90% are staged. Got the outdoor channel and haven't watched it in probably a year.

Only hunting show worth watching is Lee & Tiffany, or should I just say... Tiffany. Who cares what she shoots or how it's doctored up.

How about some hunting shows that aren't 20 minute commercials? I'd pay to watch a show teaching me how to hunt, rather than, selling me a product

I really like reading all the post. It really helps me with knowing what the viewers are looking for. We try to keep as real as possible on Hunt Wicked Close TV. All though with out the aid of multipal cameras it is very hard to get the draw back of the bow and the kill shot all on one screen. We are workin on this for the new season and hopefully we will be able to make this happen for the viewers.

As far as the commercials, this is a dreaded evil that is a must... The air time cost are up in the 10's of thousands of dollars and if it were not for the sponsors ad's there would be no shows. I to get tired of seeing commercial after commercial but unfortunately they are a must to air the show.

We try to be as informative as we can possibly be on Hunt Wicked Close TV. We try to have as many Tech Tips as we can get into the show schedule. Sometimes it is about odor elimination and other times it is about traveling to africa and what you will need to know to make your trip easier. We have several new tech tips for this season, some dealing with long range shooting to tips about archery.

We always have room for improvement and when the viewers talk we listen... unless its PETA and then we hit the delete button in a very nice way after we offer them some back strap and a free bottle of BioExtreme..

Keep talking about what you like and dislike believe it or not it helps us make a better show for the viewers..

Stay safe and lets go shoot something..

Ken Dabbs
Hunt Wicked Close TV

All TV shows are full of this junk. I do not watch much TV but when I do I watch hunting shows. I would rather watch doctored hunts than dancing with the stars...

I use to watch the fishing shows a lot. In Fisherman is the best one to me. Jimmy Houston and Bill Dance are good with the cut ups. The problem with the bass fishing shows is anyone who bass fishes knows that 90% of the time the fishing is nothing like they present. The other issue I have is I hate Bass Masters. Ray Scott is the biggest jerk around along with most of the other ones. Hunting wise I like Ted Nugent but rarely watch any of them any more. Most are just a bunch of rich dudes with nothing better to do.

I don't like to watch other people hunt, fish, golf or @#$%.
I do like to do all those things though.lol

+ 1

If most of the TV hunting dudes and dudettes got in a stand with me and started that stupid obligitory obnoxious whispering ad nauseum while i'm trying to hunt, well, tree limb to the mouth comes to mind. unless of course it's Tiffany. which one of the blondes sounds like she's on helium? It's hilarious when it whispers. 28 minutes of constant ads with 1.5 minutes of that stupid whispering, 30 seconds to shoot something at the last minute of the last day of the hunt...there's more, but I'd rather get another martini than write...

That's as bad as back in the day when they used to show the hunter looking for the deer from the dead deer's point of view! You would think a cameraman at the deer would be a clue as to where it was. I don't like underwater shots on fishing shows either. Then I guess I'm old school because I don't think we have to have hot chicks to sell hunting shows either. Tiffany is pretty but her voice could crack glass. One more thing all the on camera WHISPERING SUCKS!

I mostly watch them for entertainment value only. I try not to miss an episode of Bone Collectors. I am a huge fan of Michael Waddell and really enjoy the lighter side of the show especially when he has Blake Shelton on. You have to admit his Bone Collector idea has made him a ton of money. I also like to watch Uncle Ted. He has been a favorite of mine for years. Obviously I watch The Crush with Lee and Tiffany. For a blonde Tiffany is pretty hot. I wish she would dye her hair brown then she would be hotter but shes not half bad. Everyone in the family sits and watches Hunt Wicked Close. I like the realism that they bring to the show. Plus its nice to see someone on tv that I have met in person. We watch others too but those are the ones we try not to miss. I could care less about watching someone shoot a big deer up in the northeast with a rifle, but if its bowhunting we watch it or if they are hunting in places where I have or could hunt like here in Texas and Oklahoma. It has been my dream for years to be on tv just once hunting. Just about every time I go out hunting I carry a video camera with me in hopes of making something that could possibly be edited for tv. I have even done the whole packing up, leaving the house, driving down the road thing and believe me its not easy to video yourself driving down the road, doing commentary and trying to drive at the same time. So far I havent gottenanything close to what I want but there is always hope that I will. I still enjoy showing it to friends and family. I think if you take them for their entertainment value they are not bad.

...followed by a tracking-the-blood-sign segment and then the inevitable "Look at this MATURE (fill in the blank)". Every animal shot on TV is "mature". C'mon! I know that you feel like you have to put something on the ground for the camera, but that 8 point with the taught face, no chest, and no belly is not mature.

It's kinda like watching political speeches, they try to BS us like they are talking to 10 years old. Almost all of them do it. They really think we're all that gullible. I guess enough viewers are to buy all the attractants, odor killers, and other unnecessary crapola they push. All you really need is a gun, a brain, and a knife. Everything else is your money in their pocket.

How about special effects and some of the music that they put in background...it's a hunting show not the Matrix! I have VH1 and CMT if I want music on tv so can that idea also! They overlap the special effects and music...well that just pushes my buttons and makes me want to beat a baby seal!

I've been in a few tv shows and let me tell you ain't nothing real the way it happens with hunting show...

I have watched about TWO hunting shows, and that was two too many.

EXACTLY!
I put together a new webshow that actually teaches and takes the hunter along for the whole hunt from scouting to recovery nothing staged, no sponsor crap, no re-enacted scenes, no outfitters, just DIY guys getting it done on public and the farm they knocked on the door at..
Check it out, its free to watch, would love to read your comments. Here is a direct link to watch the show.

http://www.thehuntingbeast.com/videocast/index.php

lol my wife gets mad cause i watch her on tv

What annoys me is the music, always dumb and at the wrong time, sometimes the production is so bad, you can't hear what the guy is saying. At least with MTV the video is only a few minutes..LOL

Like said, they always fall "right there" I guess pen raised deer don't run very far. "who said that?"..LOL

One last thing. If I did as much moving and talking as some of them do just before shooting that 180", I wouldn't even see a doe!

Ive been involved in a few shows and theyre not that bad but some shows out there obviously go too far

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whats worse is some of the deer they shoot i would cry if i shot them in the wild and then say its unbelievable micheal waddle said it about 4 times on a 150 inch deer he shot but how could it be unbelievable he just paid someone a $hit load of money to come kill the deer just sad when you lose the emotion and passion for hunting its not about shooting a 190 like the drurys,lakoskis,and bone collectors may make it look that way but its called hunting not killing. Btw HF are still for kids women and the disabled anyone can pull a 3 1/2 lb trigger on a led sled while the rancher opens the gate to the pen HF owners feel free to chime in and tell me im wrong but over the last 3 years ive watched my uncle grow a 300inch whitetail in a cage so who wants dibs on him? you gotta shoot him with a 22 at 5 feet away while i video you doin it then you gotta tell everyone your a hunter and it was hard to do

My pet peave is these guys running the camera on a downed animal while it tries to expire. Shows disrespect and points a bad light on hunters.

Ok, your wrong. Happy?

I'd like to add to that please. "Your very wrong!"

Not sure if it is on anymore but there was a show about some COuntry singer chick named Christy or Chrissy or something. Anyway, on one episode she goes to shoot a deer and the camera switches to another angle and the deer they show standing there is not even remotely close to the same deer supposedly shoots and walks up on. I rewinded it several times to show my wife and he thought it was hilarious.

And don't forget most of them are arrogant Richards that truly think they know it all when in fact some can hardly skin their own game and if it weren't in a pen or gimme hunt they would be lost. Most are so far out of touch with reality and what hunters want it is unfreakinbelievable!!!

As the former director of photography for Outdoor Trails Television based here in Texas and a former freelance producer/photographer for the NWTF in Edgefield SC. I am proud to say that we NEVER faked a single hook set on a fish! or a kill shot on an animal EVER! EVERYTHING was shot as it happened in real time and many times my kills shot video had both the hunter and the animal in the frame when the shot was made!!!! the majority of the shows on TV today have NO CLUE how to shoot a realistic program AND most if not all of them are conveniently forgetting to label their hunting shows as re-enactments!

Waddell may be the worst of all of them!

I concur, i cant STAND over done accents. Its like, ok we know you're from Texas, stop playing it up already.

Honestly the only hunting shows i can stand is Tred Barta, and Benny Spies.

I also love it when they are completely dressed in camo, head to toe, then get in a box blind...lol right! Or with a huge BLAZE ORANGE vest. They would wear anything for some $$...

Yes he is an idiot I watched an episode of him hunting cows

That drives me nuts!

Why don't they just be straight forward and say, "so we waited X number of minutes and trailed the deer to this spot. We're about Y yards away from our stand. Let's take a look."


Can't stand the, "he should be around here some where," and they walk right up on the deer.

I saw Jimmy "Big Time" for the first time yesterday . I think that has become my favorite hunting show .

Wow I just spent a few minutes reading all the post from my last reply. There are a lot of folks that just do not like hunting shows but sure know a lot about ones on TV they do not like.

Yes some of the shows do cut aways on drawing the bow, looking down the rifle, and such. But if the camera does not catch the shot then the shot never happend. So unless the show has multipal camera's rolling all at the same time then the draw back, looking down the rifle, etc.. must be filmed after the shot, unless the camera person is directly behind or has the animal and the hunter in frame.

This week Wayne is in Africa hunting Cape with his bow, he tries several times to get on a Buffalo using spot and stalk but finally had to resort to a tree stand over a water hole. And next week we are in South Texas with Jorge of South Texas Big Bore Outfitters hunting Oryx. I am the camera person for Rachel and was able to get the shot and her in the same frame. We on the second hunt used two cameras and got the hunter making the shot and the animal being hit.

Producing a show is very hard work and it is great to come here and read all the comments made about what people do not like and what they do like. But sorry I do not think Rachel will color her hair blonde, but she will be hunting some large whitetail this season for next seasons shows.

Keep the comments going, I promise we will listen and do our hardest to improve and bring to the television what the viewers want to see.

Stay safe and lets go shoot something.

Blah Blah Blah... is all I hear, almost as bad as listenig to an obama speach. I hate watching people get rich by destroying things that I love. No hunting shows for me. I have also quit watching footbal basketball and baseball, never was much of a fan, just sick of seeing the idiots of the world get rich for no reason other than people think they is cool.

Used to see on shows all the time the millions of advertiesements, and then when they finaly did wing the deer on the last day of the show they couldnt even stay for the recovery because they had another hunt booked already???

And for the shows that have a hot little honey on there, lets face the facts she is only there for one reason, apealing to the eye and up ratings... so why not just have her perade around in a camo bakini while hunting in canda? you would probably get more viewers... and be able to draw some new veiwers to hunting in as well!

Hi. I’m Smiling Mallard and I’m a hunting show addict.

That being said, I do have my favorites and then there are those that I watch simply because I want to see what the dill weeds are going to do this week (Pigman). Lots of what has been posted in this thread is dead on. Post hunt “reenactments” seem to have become the standard in today’s plethora of hunting shows that are being aired and in most cases these are quite annoying.

The early days of “Road trips” were outstanding but now Waddell seems to be simply acting instead of hunting. I still watch Road Trips and Bone Collector though as they are still some of the best stuff out there and Nick Mundt and Travis Turner are a riot. I ran into Waddell and John Tate about 7 years ago in the Brownwood Wal-Mart of all places. I see Waddell walking toward us in the store and I turn to my buddy I was with and said “Look…its Tyler Jordan!” They cracked up and stopped and chatted for a few minutes and genuinely seemed like normal everyday people.

My favorites now are the Drury’s shows. They are slickly produced and have a lot of over the shoulder type shots in their productions. Of all the shows I watch, I think I pick up more stuff from theirs than any others in the way of tactics etc. Jimmy Big Time...now that's funny.

Very cool to hear the feedback from Ken of Hunt Wicked Close as he is directly involved in this entire process and can add insight that we know nothing about. I’m going to have to catch your show a few more times Ken.

And as far as the hot little honey…I say bring it on. There are a whole lot of hot little honeys out there that are better hunters and much better shots with bow and rifle than your average dude and they are much more fun to look at. Of course you can spend your time watching that Squealin Hen, Owl hootin douche Eddie Salter but for me…..I prefer a little eye candy mixed into my weekly Outdoor channel watching.

Get Rich ?? Really.. If folks think we are getting rich by doing this they are sadly mistaking. I and Rachel both have full time jobs in the real world and live from pay check to pay check much like everyone else. It is not an easy task to put this all together and even tougher to get sponsors. Get Rich.. I wish, I would hang up the badge and gun and do this all the time !!

Nope it is a love just as most have to be in the outdoors, hunt and fish and then bring this to the television for the viewers to watch. It is finding the outfitters and ranches that want to have their place and operation on national television and then having the time to schedule off to make all the hunts it takes to put together 13 original shows for one season. If it were not for our crew members and Co-Host we would not make the hunts we have scheduled every year, and if it were not for the new folks we are looking for to submit good quality footage of their hunts for the show we would probably fall short on footage as well.

For the ones who just hear Blah...Blah..Blah then please continue to hunt as you have and please pass this tradition on to the youth of our society so that it will continue to be strong and renew itself each year. For the ones who do like to watch the shows please do the same and keep up the comments so we can make the show better for the ones who do like to watch.

Stay safe and have a great season.

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I saw the episode too. I didn't see how hunting feral cows is any different than folks hunting feral pigs. Just my

I love the Benny Spies Show. He misses. His equipment lets him down. He gets skunked (golf course white tail episode). And that Winnebago is hilarious. But most of all, that's how me and my brother hunt. Just plain fun.

Speak for yourself!
Lol

Major League Bowhunter is exactly what you described. They explain every inch of the hunt and how/why they were successful or unsuccessful. The host of this, Jeff Danker, also has another show called Buckventures outdoors. These are about the only 2 hunting shows i can bear to watch anymore!

Tv shows are tv shows its all for entertainment value and money. They filmed a show at the country club I worked at this summer and they film a "spontaneous fight" 9 times before they got the right take.

Hank Parker is still my favorite though, and Tiffany L.... She puurdy

I seriously do not mean to be rude, but if you have 20+ years under your belt as a LEO and your wife(?, I am making a possibly wrong assumption) works for a well known law firm (even as a receptionist) you should not be living paycheck to paycheck. If you have money to hunt exotics as shown on your website you obviously have much more money than I do. People have different priorities and I respect what you value, but stating on this forum that you live paycheck to paycheck is either flat out fallacy or you are in serious need of a financial advisor. I do NOT live paycheck to paycheck and I am an E-5 in the army with 7 years in. My pay is public information and can easily be googled. I pay rent in Louisiana where I am stationed and rent in Houston where my GF and children live, not to mention 25% goes to child support; which I happily pay. Again, I don't mean to ruffle your feathers but you are mistaken one way or another. You either don't know what struggling is or live well beyond your means.

BTW- Thank you for your public service as an LEO and I think maybe I'll have to check out your show, as I am by far not a fan of hunting shows. Good luck with your endeavor and take care.
BTW

I like to watch Tiffany on the Crush.


Ralph and Vicki C. are fun to watch. That guy that cries when he kills something cracks me up.


I enjoy watching hot chicks killing stuff and there are actually some talented women hunters on TV now.

the episode where they deer hunt Texas out of a ground blind is funniest thing I have seen.

low fence - they show several exotics coming into their feed.

wild deer - they show a big buck walk up to the window looking for a hand out.

reshooting different angles - they make fun of everything we have talked about in this thread.

professional hunter & pro staff – you have to laugh at it.

I saw a girl get out of a pop up blind yesterday, walk up to her deer and do the whole act. She was wearing a safety harness that they advertise on their show! A safety harness in a ground blind???

I've seen TV fisherman set the hook with a spinning
reel and land the fish with a baitcaster. Explain how
that happens.


I was on the Robie's Dock in Islamorada , Fl feeding
the tarpon. Roland Martin's crew was filming under
water shots of tarpon striking a hookless fly.

I saw the footage edited into their show the next
year. there is no way to get an underwater shot
of a tarpon taking a fly on the flats, Don't insult
our inteligence by editing it in.



MO

Some of the shows are almost as real as pro wrestling.