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Bucks from above (pic heavy)
Posted By: stxranchman
Bucks from above (pic heavy) - 10/24/13 02:53 PM
Posted By: stxranchman
Re: Bucks from above (pic heavy) - 10/24/13 02:55 PM
Posted By: jshouse
Re: Bucks from above (pic heavy) - 10/24/13 02:55 PM
wow, great bucks, not being a smart A but what do attribute the recent jump too? rain?
Posted By: Elkhunter49
Re: Bucks from above (pic heavy) - 10/24/13 02:59 PM
He's got some serious heads there. Congrats to your buddy.
Posted By: East
Re: Bucks from above (pic heavy) - 10/24/13 03:00 PM
Very nice pics STX
Posted By: stxranchman
Re: Bucks from above (pic heavy) - 10/24/13 03:00 PM
wow, great bucks, not being a smart A but what do attribute the recent jump too? rain?
Culling and killing all the spikes for years
Posted By: Lipan Creep
Re: Bucks from above (pic heavy) - 10/24/13 03:16 PM
Where is the grass. It's mostly weeds or scrub and hardley any grass at all. Are cattle run on that ranch? Looks like it was plenty dry there.
Posted By: stxranchman
Re: Bucks from above (pic heavy) - 10/24/13 03:22 PM
Those deer live in that thick stuff and not in the open. Bad drought the past several years makes it look really bad. There is grass in the roller chopped areas but without rain it did not grow much. Without rain I have seen bare ground in lots of areas down there in bad year. Went 3 yrs without much rain and the grass just rotted away to bare ground. Past over grazing when the grazing was leased caused the brush and weeds to take over. Not good brush or weeds either. Aeration with a Lawson is bring back the grass once the competition is cut down. Prescribed burning maintains it. But it take rain. Can't do much when you get less than 5" in a year.
No cattle in over 10 yrs now. Also those soils are heavy clay with areas where salt is on the surface along the drainages. You can see the vegetation types that growing in waste type soils. Areas with no grass or weeds will not grow anything due to salty soils.
Posted By: jshouse
Re: Bucks from above (pic heavy) - 10/24/13 03:25 PM
oak leaves
Posted By: stxranchman
Re: Bucks from above (pic heavy) - 10/24/13 03:25 PM
oak leaves
Not an Oak with in miles.
Posted By: Grosvenor
Re: Bucks from above (pic heavy) - 10/24/13 03:28 PM
wow, great bucks, not being a smart A but what do attribute the recent jump too? rain?
new management
Posted By: stxranchman
Re: Bucks from above (pic heavy) - 10/24/13 03:40 PM
wow, great bucks, not being a smart A but what do attribute the recent jump too? rain?
new management
Resluts of killing all those spikes and culling from the previous management.
Posted By: redchevy
Re: Bucks from above (pic heavy) - 10/24/13 03:45 PM
Looks good!
For so old men deer they still look pretty athletic, nice pics
Posted By: artrios60
Re: Bucks from above (pic heavy) - 10/24/13 03:53 PM
Nice work being done
Great bucks
Posted By: jskin
Re: Bucks from above (pic heavy) - 10/24/13 03:58 PM
wow, great bucks, not being a smart A but what do attribute the recent jump too? rain?
new management
Posted By: tth_40
Re: Bucks from above (pic heavy) - 10/24/13 04:04 PM
Great pix.
Posted By: jshouse
Re: Bucks from above (pic heavy) - 10/24/13 04:10 PM
wow, great bucks, not being a smart A but what do attribute the recent jump too? rain?
new management
well, i was trying to offer up an excuse for him...
Posted By: DQKN
Re: Bucks from above (pic heavy) - 10/24/13 04:13 PM
wow, those are some hosses
Posted By: Schpanky
Re: Bucks from above (pic heavy) - 10/24/13 04:14 PM
Those are some good looking animals. I've always been amazed that they can get that big down there...poor grazing abundant browse?
Question for you...I was driving up from S Padre years ago and saw bucks wading neck deep in ponds eating some kind of vegetation... what could that have been? Always been curious about that.
Posted By: Bill_OA
Re: Bucks from above (pic heavy) - 10/24/13 04:18 PM
Some awesome deer in there!! Is there any concern that stressing the bucks with the chopper while they are in velvet will cause them to bust up their antlers?
Posted By: 007hunters son
Re: Bucks from above (pic heavy) - 10/24/13 04:20 PM
Wow nice bucks
Posted By: rifleman
Re: Bucks from above (pic heavy) - 10/24/13 04:25 PM
wow, great bucks, not being a smart A but what do attribute the recent jump too? rain?
new management
:Standing O:
Posted By: stxranchman
Re: Bucks from above (pic heavy) - 10/24/13 04:25 PM
wow, great bucks, not being a smart A but what do attribute the recent jump too? rain?
new management
well, i was trying to offer up an excuse for him...
nice try but they continued with the same plan for the most part. They did some things the same, changed some and then went back to doing them again. What did a lot to help was taking numbers way down and keep the better bucks alive. Little history on the ranch. It had produced a net book deer in the early 90's. A lot of 160-190 type deer were killed during the early 90's. No age was safe if it scored over 160. No doe were killed and no culling at all. Just top grading best deer. I flew it the first year and saw 254 deer from the air and estimated the pop to be over 550 deer on 5100 acres that was LF till about 2 months before I flew the survey. Way to many deer for South Texas. When I went to work the best buck on the ranch score wise was an upper 160 buck with 17 points. He was an upper 140's buck with 20+" of NT points. We killed him and he was 7 yr old. I did see a couple of 160 type bucks that year during the rut that I did not see from the air. A lot of the 4-8 yr old bucks were killed in the first 3 yrs and none those scored over 130 that were killed. The bucks that did score better were protected and kept in the herd to breed. Heavy culling of all age class and lot of does were killed during those years. Ranch had a lot thick brush and we had 25 protein feeders. They bought a Lawson Aerator and also added more protein feeders. Ranch added a bunch of stock ponds for water. When I was there we built 12 in addition to the 7 they had and now I think they have over 30. They started to aerate some areas and then would either rerun those areas with aerator to keep the brush down or if they had the grass, burn them. The genetics were there just not many good bucks with it when I started. The quality of young bucks improved with nutrtition and management. They try to harvest trophies now at 7-9 yrs of age. They allow them to breed as long as they can since the numbers were low on those kind of bucks. It is finally starting to pay off.
Posted By: SniperRAB
Re: Bucks from above (pic heavy) - 10/24/13 04:30 PM
Outstanding Pictures
Posted By: DXB
Re: Bucks from above (pic heavy) - 10/24/13 04:44 PM
Incredible bucks, and great pics!
Posted By: Satch
Re: Bucks from above (pic heavy) - 10/24/13 04:51 PM
Incredible bucks, and great pics!
X2
Posted By: BowsnRods
Re: Bucks from above (pic heavy) - 10/24/13 04:54 PM
Nice pictures STX, That is some of the best big buck producing country and big bass on both sides of the fence!
Posted By: Topshot
Re: Bucks from above (pic heavy) - 10/24/13 05:06 PM
wow, there are a bunch of phenominal bucks running around that ranch! what is the name of the ranch?
Posted By: TX_Huntress
Re: Bucks from above (pic heavy) - 10/24/13 05:19 PM
Incredible bucks, and great pics!
Posted By: txhunter1010
Re: Bucks from above (pic heavy) - 10/24/13 05:47 PM
it has always amazed me how those bucks with that big of a rack can run full speed through that thick crap and make it look so easy...deer are so athletic
Posted By: west-tex
Re: Bucks from above (pic heavy) - 10/24/13 05:54 PM
WOW incredible bucks
Posted By: cibolo
Re: Bucks from above (pic heavy) - 10/24/13 06:02 PM
that reminds me of the place we had in Encinal. Even looks like some of the same genetics. By far the best south Texas place I ever had the pleasure of hunting. Awesome pics and thanks for sharing.
Posted By: dogcatcher
Re: Bucks from above (pic heavy) - 10/24/13 06:34 PM
Nice.
Posted By: BadLander
Re: Bucks from above (pic heavy) - 10/24/13 08:38 PM
Didnt view all the posts, freaking looks like some deer on the Cielo Ranch by Big Bend have family friend that hunts it...
Posted By: Hman
Re: Bucks from above (pic heavy) - 10/24/13 08:46 PM
Holy moly
Posted By: Conchoman76
Re: Bucks from above (pic heavy) - 10/24/13 09:19 PM
Beautiful.
Posted By: MikeC
Re: Bucks from above (pic heavy) - 10/24/13 09:30 PM
Great pics and some stud bucks!
Posted By: Stub
Re: Bucks from above (pic heavy) - 10/25/13 12:26 AM
Awesome bucks, thanks for sharing
Posted By: WLR Hunter
Re: Bucks from above (pic heavy) - 10/25/13 12:47 AM
Great unique pics - nice to see them in a flat out run from above - terrific looking animals.
Posted By: Deerhunter61
Re: Bucks from above (pic heavy) - 10/25/13 01:26 AM
They are real majestic animals.
Posted By: jshouse
Re: Bucks from above (pic heavy) - 10/25/13 01:27 AM
They are real majestic animals.
majestic like a steed
Posted By: AO2000
Re: Bucks from above (pic heavy) - 10/25/13 01:40 AM
Two questions:
When you say aerator, what are you talking about? Forgive my ignorance please..
Is this a commercial hunting ranch or private?
Nice deer and pictures!
Posted By: OneShotSam
Re: Bucks from above (pic heavy) - 10/25/13 01:48 AM
Nice headgear ! What do have to do to get an invite to hunt ??
Posted By: txtrophy85
Re: Bucks from above (pic heavy) - 10/25/13 02:09 AM
That some of the old Cameron country?
Posted By: fbchunter
Re: Bucks from above (pic heavy) - 10/25/13 02:14 AM
Awesome bucks, thanks for sharing
Posted By: stxranchman
Re: Bucks from above (pic heavy) - 10/25/13 02:24 AM
Two questions:
When you say aerator, what are you talking about? Forgive my ignorance please..
Is this a commercial hunting ranch or private?
Nice deer and pictures!
Here is a link to what an aerator looks like. It is used to take dense brush that is to tall down to ground level and fracture the soil to allow moisture deeper into hard packed soils. The moisture and sunlight will allow grass and forb growth. The brush will then sprout new growth where it is broken above the ground. The debris will shade the ground till it rots. It puts the new growth where deer can get to it and improves the habitat.
http://www.ranchworx.com/tandem.phpThat ranch does limited package hunts but it is booked for several years out.
Posted By: AO2000
Re: Bucks from above (pic heavy) - 10/25/13 02:36 AM
Two questions:
When you say aerator, what are you talking about? Forgive my ignorance please..
Is this a commercial hunting ranch or private?
Nice deer and pictures!
Here is a link to what an aerator looks like. It is used to take dense brush that is to tall down to ground lever and fracture the soil to allow moisture deeper into hardpacked soils. The moisture and sunlight will allow grass and forb growth. The brush will then sprout new growth where it is broken above the ground. It puts the new growth where deer can get to it and improves the habitat.
http://www.ranchworx.com/tandem.phpThat ranch does limited package hunts but is booked for several years out.
Very informative thanks!
Posted By: HuntingTexas
Re: Bucks from above (pic heavy) - 10/25/13 02:57 AM
Incredible bucks, and great pics!
Posted By: G-Man
Re: Bucks from above (pic heavy) - 10/26/13 04:10 PM
Where is this place, I want to get next door! Nice deer!
Posted By: Phantom
Re: Bucks from above (pic heavy) - 10/26/13 05:09 PM
great bucks
Posted By: Erathkid
Re: Bucks from above (pic heavy) - 10/26/13 06:25 PM
Unreal. Thanks for sharing, ranchman.
Posted By: Erathkid
Re: Bucks from above (pic heavy) - 10/26/13 06:26 PM
Unreal. Thanks for sharing, ranchman.
Posted By: NDN98
Re: Bucks from above (pic heavy) - 10/26/13 06:29 PM
Nice bucks.
Posted By: don k
Re: Bucks from above (pic heavy) - 10/26/13 08:03 PM
WOW, you still aren't going to tell us the ranch?