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GOAT PROOF
Posted By: redog
GOAT PROOF - 09/15/09 03:40 AM
I know were gonna have some fun with this one but whats the best way to goat proof your feeders???
Man I hunted in Sonora and there were tons of goats I hated it! I got a pellet gun and started shooting and sooner than later they left. Shoot Billy and the herd will follow!!
goat fence? like netwire, or cattle pannels??
Posted By: rifleman
Re: GOAT PROOF - 09/15/09 04:02 AM
shoot all the goats...they are worthless.
not so true rifleman, weve considered doin away with some cattle on one place and thorin in some goats.... pretty profitable creatures....
Posted By: JCB
Re: GOAT PROOF - 09/15/09 04:08 AM
not so true rifleman, weve considered doin away with some cattle on one place and thorin in some goats.... pretty profitable creatures....
Thats odd......our landowner just sold off all of his goats and got into cattle!
Posted By: rifleman
Re: GOAT PROOF - 09/15/09 04:20 AM
show goats?
not so true rifleman, weve considered doin away with some cattle on one place and thorin in some goats.... pretty profitable creatures....
Thats odd......our landowner just sold off all of his goats and got into cattle!
lol
nope, just goats, i think it has to do with what kinda vegetation u got.
Posted By: AdgerC15
Re: GOAT PROOF - 09/15/09 04:50 AM
hair goats...
Posted By: LG
Re: GOAT PROOF - 09/15/09 12:29 PM
Eletric fence!
I know were gonna have some fun with this one but whats the best way to goat proof your feeders???
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Posted By: BenBob
Re: GOAT PROOF - 09/15/09 01:34 PM
If you do the math, the rancher can make more in 2 years off of 3 crops of kids which can be done than he can make in 2 years of leasing to hunters. I would have never believed this until I sat down and figured it out. Of course having hunters and raising livestock is the ideal situation for the landowner.
TO keep the goats out, buy the 4 inch bull wire panels and use them instead of just normal fencing and enclose your feeders area with this. It comes in heights that goats cannot clear. Do not buy the 6 inch bull wire, because they can get their horns through there and then they are stuck. If you use normal wire fencing, you have to stretch it and dig holes for posts and all of that. For the bullwire, just buy or make a T post driver and drive T posts into the ground and wire the bullwire to them and you are done.
Posted By: postoak
Re: GOAT PROOF - 09/15/09 02:36 PM
Are people eating that much kid, or is this some sort of fad like emu?
Posted By: cody
Re: GOAT PROOF - 09/15/09 03:08 PM
Fad. It won't stick.
Posted By: BenBob
Re: GOAT PROOF - 09/15/09 03:20 PM
Goats are no fad. They have been around since Moby Dick was a minnow. They do not take much to survive. You eliminate a few predators and you can have a 150% kids crop of 3 kiddings in 2 years. Do the math and see for yourself.
Posted By: cody
Re: GOAT PROOF - 09/15/09 03:26 PM
I know the existence of the goat is not a fad. They didn't materialize out of thin air 15 years ago or anything. I'm saying the meat goats will not become the next major food source for the U.S. JMO of course. I've yet to see goat in the meat counter at United, I don't think burger king is sellin a goat burger. I'm saying the meat craze is a fad. I don't think it will keep up much longer. I'm not a goat hater by anymeans, my family made their living off hair goats back in the days when hair goats were a viable means of income.
I don't think he saying goats are a fad just the current high kid prices
Posted By: bubbagunn
Re: GOAT PROOF - 09/15/09 03:42 PM
I was always told that you need a fence that will hold water to keep a goat in. I guess you need a fence that will hold water to keep a goat out!!
Posted By: deerfeeder
Re: GOAT PROOF - 09/15/09 03:52 PM
If you do the math, the rancher can make more in 2 years off of 3 crops of kids which can be done than he can make in 2 years of leasing to hunters. I would have never believed this until I sat down and figured it out. Of course having hunters and raising livestock is the ideal situation for the landowner.
TO keep the goats out, buy the 4 inch bull wire panels and use them instead of just normal fencing and enclose your feeders area with this. It comes in heights that goats cannot clear. Do not buy the 6 inch bull wire, because they can get their horns through there and then they are stuck. If you use normal wire fencing, you have to stretch it and dig holes for posts and all of that. For the bullwire, just buy or make a T post driver and drive T posts into the ground and wire the bullwire to them and you are done.
+1
Goats will eat the same browse your deer like and they will eat higher up on the plants. Your rancher needs to keep their numbers within reasonable limits.
According to my BIL nothing worse than removing a dead, rotting goat from your feeder pen after it has managed to get in, get stuck and died !
Texas Heat, feeder pen, dead goat and beer - PRICELESS
Still laughing about that one !!
Posted By: dogcatcher
Re: GOAT PROOF - 09/15/09 04:00 PM
Goats are no fad. They have been around since Moby Dick was a minnow. They do not take much to survive. You eliminate a few predators and you can have a 150% kids crop of 3 kiddings in 2 years. Do the math and see for yourself.
Like you said, no fad at all, they are being slaughtered and shipped to the middle east at a good price.
Posted By: Mr. Clean
Re: GOAT PROOF - 09/15/09 04:03 PM
A steady supply of lead works well.
Posted By: BenBob
Re: GOAT PROOF - 09/15/09 05:41 PM
I know the existence of the goat is not a fad. They didn't materialize out of thin air 15 years ago or anything. I'm saying the meat goats will not become the next major food source for the U.S. JMO of course. I've yet to see goat in the meat counter at United, I don't think burger king is sellin a goat burger. I'm saying the meat craze is a fad. I don't think it will keep up much longer. I'm not a goat hater by anymeans, my family made their living off hair goats back in the days when hair goats were a viable means of income.
I do not care what they are used for. My point was that you can make more money off of goats in 2 years than you can off of hunting in 2 years. With that in mind, you need to keep the rancher happy and not be shooting up his goats. If he has to choose, the goats make him more money and they never shoot up the place and they never give him any lip. So, if the rancher has to choose, you get the boot and the goats stay.
Posted By: ralph
Re: GOAT PROOF - 09/15/09 10:58 PM
A man who raises goats told me that to cattle and horses a fence is a barrier-to a goat,it's a challenge!
My dad told me the way to determine if a fence would keep goats in or out is to build a fence and throw a bucket of water against it.
If any water goes through, a goat can get out (or in)!
Posted By: TexasEd
Re: GOAT PROOF - 09/16/09 03:30 AM
we had goats as a kid and the priests from the church across the road would always call up and tell us they were in the cemetery eating all the flowers.
Never could keep them in even with big conduit yokes around their necks.
Posted By: HOG SNIPER
Re: GOAT PROOF - 09/16/09 03:36 AM
300 mag should do it
yup thats one long going fad....we use goat wire in menard county, not to many problems with goats getting in with the exception of a billy that climbed over a low spot, but we fixed the low spot and no trouble since.....been hunting with goats 15 years, with a lot less problems than we get from cows in Madisonville
Posted By: poisonivie
Re: GOAT PROOF - 09/16/09 04:20 AM
Need to use 4x4 or 6x12 mesh. The 6x12, they can stick their head thru and can still get it back out. The 6x6 is just a "gill net". Goat is the #1 most consumed meat in the world. It just hasn't caught on here in the USA.
Posted By: dogcatcher
Re: GOAT PROOF - 09/16/09 08:26 AM
A man who raises goats told me that to cattle and horses a fence is a barrier-to a goat,it's a challenge!
My dad told me the way to determine if a fence would keep goats in or out is to build a fence and throw a bucket of water against it.
If any water goes through, a goat can get out (or in)!
Your dad must have went to the same school I did. There is no such thing as a goat proof fence, a fence only slows them down.
Posted By: passthru
Re: GOAT PROOF - 09/18/09 12:27 AM
Need to use 4x4 or 6x12 mesh. The 6x12, they can stick their head thru and can still get it back out. The 6x6 is just a "gill net". Goat is the #1 most consumed meat in the world. It just hasn't caught on here in the USA.
Carp is #1 fish consumed in the rest of the world. Aint caught on here yet either. Got goats or sheep I will hunt somewhere else.