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2015 CO group elk hunt.
Posted By: Sneaky
2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/25/14 02:22 AM
It's time to plan round 2. This hunt is open to anyone wanting to join me for the 2nd rifle elk season in Colorado. We will hunt Unit 71, in the Taylor Mesa area, between Dolores and Rico. It's an OTC hunt.
We just finished up the first go round, and we had a good hunt. No bulls were harmed in the process, but we learned the area and had a great time. I have a great deal of confidence going into this hunt next year. We encountered several legal bulls, we just didn't shoot one for one reason or another.
We have a good area to camp and hunt, now. This last trip was a learning and proving experience. We broke in a couple of new elk hunters. Hopefully we can do that again.
If you want to be a part of this hunt, just say so. There's no need to commit just yet. Several people dropped out last time as the hunt got closer, and that's fine. Life happens. Hopefully some of those guys can make it this time. We will discuss the hunt, answer questions, and have a year to make this happen.
It'll be a good time. It's a great way for new guys to get started, but anyone is welcome. I'm still not fully recovered from the last hunt, but let the next round of games begin.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/25/14 02:34 AM
If I don't go through an outfitter I am in
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/25/14 02:44 AM
I'll be your outfitter.
How rough do you like your terrain?
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/25/14 02:51 AM
I'll be your outfitter.
How rough do you like your terrain?
Have anything in the meat isle at a walmart? Just ask'n
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/25/14 03:33 AM
Yep. I can do that.
Posted By: Sader762
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/25/14 05:01 AM
In!
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/25/14 06:43 PM
We've got one poor soul ready for torture.
Posted By: mow
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/25/14 08:38 PM
Sneaky..got my ducks in a row now..I'm in..how many guys ended going from our original meeting in cleburne..keep me posted..thanks bro. Garry
Posted By: js4242
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/25/14 08:47 PM
Very interested. Following this thread for sure.
Posted By: huntnfishtx
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/25/14 11:14 PM
I'm going to put in to draw in New Mexico; If I don't draw, I'm in
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/25/14 11:15 PM
Good deal. I need to look into what units and hunts I can put in for that won't interfere with this hunt. What unit you applying for?
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/25/14 11:17 PM
Sneaky..got my ducks in a row now..I'm in..how many guys ended going from our original meeting in cleburne..keep me posted..thanks bro. Garry
Creekrunner and Shawheel made it. I'm hoping we get some of the original group to return, but I think some already have plans next year.
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/25/14 11:37 PM
I'm all over this! I have been reading your post from last year and so wish I had been home in time to go. I work offshore, but will save the date for next year for sure. I see some of you talking about putting in for NM draw hunts, I will look into that. Did you guys not have deer tags on this trip to CO? I have most of the camping gear already and a Ford Excursion that can haul quite a bit. Thank you very much for putting this together Sneaky.
Posted By: Shawheel
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/26/14 12:12 AM
Depending on some dates at work, I'm in. I should know for sure around June. If I can't make 2nd rifle season, I may try to put together a group for a later OTC season.
This year's hunt was a great learning experience. Now we just need to connect the dots and bag some bulls!
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/26/14 12:26 AM
I'm all over this! I have been reading your post from last year and so wish I had been home in time to go. I work offshore, but will save the date for next year for sure. I see some of you talking about putting in for NM draw hunts, I will look into that. Did you guys not have deer tags on this trip to CO? I have most of the camping gear already and a Ford Excursion that can haul quite a bit. Thank you very much for putting this together Sneaky.
No deer tags. That's a draw, and I didn't put in. A few of us had bear tags, but we never saw one.
Looking forward to hunting with an offshore guy.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/26/14 12:28 AM
Depending on some dates at work, I'm in. I should know for sure around June. If I can't make 2nd rifle season, I may try to put together a group for a later OTC season.
This year's hunt was a great learning experience. Now we just need to connect the dots and bag some bulls!
You know how to make it happen, now. Hopefully you can make this hunt. If you do 3rd, I'll see what I can do to stick around for it.
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/26/14 12:46 AM
I won't know the exact dates for that other trip I'm planning until late January. If I can, I'll make one of these hunts. Very interested in NM.
Posted By: TXHOGSLAYER
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/26/14 01:09 AM
What are the tentative dates?
Posted By: Jerrod Carroll
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/26/14 01:23 AM
I'm in for sure. Had a great time this year and looking forward to doing it again. Hope everybody that went can make it next year.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/26/14 01:44 AM
I'm in for sure. Had a great time this year and looking forward to doing it again. Hope everybody that went can make it next year.
Maybe our joints will be repaired by then.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/26/14 01:47 AM
What are the tentative dates?
I'll check again, right quick. When I looked, they didn't have the actual dates up. Something about 9 days starting on the 1st Saturday after the first season. Something like that.
Posted By: Jerrod Carroll
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/26/14 01:52 AM
I'm in for sure. Had a great time this year and looking forward to doing it again. Hope everybody that went can make it next year.
Maybe our joints will be repaired by then.
I sure hope so. Hopefully I'll be on better shape by then
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/26/14 02:00 AM
Dates should be the 17th-25th, according to this.
I'll plan on getting there a day or two early and staying for the whole season, depending on the draws and what not.
Best of luck to sneaky and the gang! Ya'll will seal the deal this time for sure.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/26/14 02:14 AM
Thanks, Jensent. I think you're right.
Posted By: SapperTitan
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/26/14 02:34 AM
One of these days maybe the 2020 OTC Elk hunt LOL
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/26/14 02:45 AM
One of these days maybe the 2020 OTC Elk hunt LOL
There's a spot, whenever you're ready.
Posted By: North2AK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/26/14 03:55 AM
Let's try this again. Assuming I'm not stuck in the a$$-end of the world again during 2nd rifle season, I'm in. Once again, I have a cook tent, extra cooler and a long bed Ram 3500 with lot's of extra space to contribute to the effort.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/26/14 03:22 PM
Good deal. We can meet you at the bottom of Taylor Mesa to pull your Dodge to the top for ya.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/26/14 05:48 PM
Good deal. We can meet you at the bottom of Taylor Mesa to pull your Dodge to the top for ya.
You're assuming it can even make it to Colorado, know something we don't
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/26/14 05:54 PM
Good deal. We can meet you at the bottom of Taylor Mesa to pull your Dodge to the top for ya.
You're assuming it can even make it to Colorado, know something we don't
That was my attempt at a glass half full comment. Out of character, I know.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/26/14 06:06 PM
Got ya, just don't do that "no mo". Be proud of who you are and quit bruising your "street cred"
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/26/14 06:12 PM
Sorry. I'll try to act more green.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/26/14 06:24 PM
BTW, I was reading on the NM DOW web site. Not sure if I understood it correctly, but seems they require a body to buy a Small game license for $65, BEFORE even letting/permitting you to apply for an Elk tag, also it seems they have no "point" accrual system???
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/26/14 06:31 PM
BTW, I was reading on the NM DOW web site. Not sure if I understood it correctly, but seems they require a body to buy a Small game license for $65, BEFORE even letting/permitting you to apply for an Elk tag, also it seems they have no "point" accrual system???
Sneaky said there wasn't a point system. I'm sure the 65.00 won't be the last dun they get out of us. 'Whole state has a "help me, I'm poor" attitude.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/26/14 06:48 PM
CR, I wouldn't mind having to buy that tag AFTER I was drawn. like Colorado does with the habitat stamp for a few $$.
NM wants $65 for the SG lic, then $5 or $10 for their Habitat stamp? So they make at least $65 no matter what, sounds like extortion to me.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/26/14 07:12 PM
It's been a few year since I've applied there, so I'll have to look. Used to, it cost 10 or 20 bucks to apply, but they get worse every year about fees, so I'll have to look. I know they want the 800 for the tag, up front, which is refunded if you don't draw. They also don't allow you to put in for quality hunts the year after you draw one.
And yes, no points. Straight lottery.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/26/14 07:24 PM
I don't mind paying the $800 up front, draw tag, or don't and get refund less app fee. That is fair enough. But to charge a $65 "fee" for a license (small game) I wouldn't use is BS IMO, if that is the case. No preference point system, seems to guarantee them $$ without commitment.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/26/14 08:02 PM
They're not the best, but they are far from the worst. A couple states charge you a couple hundred for a license that you can't do anything with.
And the lottery puts everyone on an even playing field, for better or worse. I like it as a different option. I have states I build points in. I have my OTC in CO. And I always have a chance in NM when I put in. 65 bucks is a bit unreasonable, but I can live with it, all things considered. They do some goofy things, but they still have the best elk hunts that I have any chance of drawing.
Posted By: North2AK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/26/14 08:25 PM
Sounds like certain members on this thread are suffering from a severe case of Cummins envy
. Do not despair not all of us can be blessed by the torque gods!
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/26/14 08:44 PM
I've had all the Cummins torque I care to, but I am jealous of that long bed. Sure would have come in handy with all the gear we had!
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/26/14 09:09 PM
I like the Cummins ALLOT, it's what they wrap it with LOL
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/26/14 09:52 PM
Like CR I already have other obligations and can't do the Co OTC hunt next year but if the NM draw dates line up just right I will be 100 % all in. Just keep me posted. Thanks.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/26/14 10:20 PM
Nice thing about the OTC tag, schedules change and you can load up, get a tag and go to work.
Posted By: Jerrod Carroll
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/26/14 11:06 PM
For the sake of the thread I'll keep my vehicle choices to myself.
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/26/14 11:25 PM
For the sake of the thread I'll keep my vehicle choices to myself.
Yeah, you'd think a man with a high-falootin' job that sends him all over the world could afford a decent vehicle.
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/14 12:16 AM
Y'all see many deer on the trip or not at the right elevation for the concentrations...be a good time to consider a deer voucher so someone can start looking.
Posted By: Shawheel
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/14 12:33 AM
Y'all see many deer on the trip or not at the right elevation for the concentrations...be a good time to consider a deer voucher so someone can start looking.
Seemed like a decent number of mule deer to me. Especially does. Would have been nice to have a tag.
Also wondering how I get a tag for some of those cattle I saw roaming the park. Definitely could have filled the freezer with one of them.
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/14 12:50 AM
Y'all see many deer on the trip or not at the right elevation for the concentrations...be a good time to consider a deer voucher so someone can start looking.
Rifleman, we saw a ton of mule deer does as Shawheel mentioned. The 4 bucks I saw were in no way even remotely close to what you just shot. Maybe 110-120s though I am sure there are some bigger but harder to find. It's not a great to area to glass, I.e. No big huge meadows/openings etc.
Posted By: North2AK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/14 12:55 AM
For the sake of the thread I'll keep my vehicle choices to myself.
Yeah, you'd think a man with a high-falootin' job that sends him all over the world could afford a decent vehicle.
I will follow Jerrods lead and for the sake of maintaining the quality of the thread will refrain from responding to any more attacks upon my poor truck. I will, however, point out to CR that after you add the double stacks, the nekkid lady camo full wrap, the under truck neon and the chrome bull sack that a Dodge can become quite pricey!!
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/14 01:07 AM
For the sake of the thread I'll keep my vehicle choices to myself.
Yeah, you'd think a man with a high-falootin' job that sends him all over the world could afford a decent vehicle.
I will follow Jerrods lead and for the sake of maintaining the quality of the thread will refrain from responding to any more attacks upon my poor truck. I will, however, point out to CR that after you add the double stacks, the nekkid lady camo full wrap, the under truck neon and the chrome bull sack that a Dodge can become quite pricey!!
Oh my, this I gotta see.
Posted By: Jerrod Carroll
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/14 01:18 AM
For the sake of the thread I'll keep my vehicle choices to myself.
Yeah, you'd think a man with a high-falootin' job that sends him all over the world could afford a decent vehicle.
I will follow Jerrods lead and for the sake of maintaining the quality of the thread will refrain from responding to any more attacks upon my poor truck. I will, however, point out to CR that after you add the double stacks, the nekkid lady camo full wrap, the under truck neon and the chrome bull sack that a Dodge can become quite pricey!!
That package isn't complete if you don't have the tow mirrors folded out for extra horsepower and the stacks aren't the size of trash cans.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/14 01:24 AM
For the sake of the thread I'll keep my vehicle choices to myself.
Yeah, you'd think a man with a high-falootin' job that sends him all over the world could afford a decent vehicle.
I will follow Jerrods lead and for the sake of maintaining the quality of the thread will refrain from responding to any more attacks upon my poor truck. I will, however, point out to CR that after you add the double stacks, the nekkid lady camo full wrap, the under truck neon and the chrome bull sack that a Dodge can become quite pricey!!
Haha! Doesn't a Dodge come standard with all of that crap?
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/14 01:26 AM
Like CR I already have other obligations and can't do the Co OTC hunt next year but if the NM draw dates line up just right I will be 100 % all in. Just keep me posted. Thanks.
You got it. I'll let you know.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/14 01:29 AM
Y'all see many deer on the trip or not at the right elevation for the concentrations...be a good time to consider a deer voucher so someone can start looking.
I saw one doe where I was at. Some of the others saw more. I expected more out of the county that holds the world record typical.
At any rate, I need to be putting in for it.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/14 01:32 AM
For the sake of the thread I'll keep my vehicle choices to myself.
Another Dodge fanatic, right?
Posted By: North2AK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/14 09:26 PM
Prolly won't get any kind of consensus on this but here goes. . . I was going over my hunting bucket list and noticed that most of the items on it require humping relatively long distances thru rough country (mountains, desert, tundra etc). I've decided it's time to get a lightweight hunting rig. Target animals will be different deer types and elk (maybe caribou). I'd like to stay with off the shelf for both rifle and caliber. I am okay with limited availability calibers though (i.e. 280 AI or 7 STW) Any thoughts on brand and caliber greatly appreciated.
Now let the games begin!
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/14 09:47 PM
Prolly won't get any kind of consensus on this but here goes. . . I was going over my hunting bucket list and noticed that most of the items on it require humping relatively long distances thru rough country (mountains, desert, tundra etc). I've decided it's time to get a lightweight hunting rig. Target animals will be different deer types and elk (maybe caribou). I'd like to stay with off the shelf for both rifle and caliber. I am okay with limited availability calibers though (i.e. 280 AI or 7 STW) Any thoughts on brand and caliber greatly appreciated.
Now let the games begin!
Sako 85 Finnlight, caliber of your choosing. Mine is a 30.06.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/14 09:48 PM
Thread is less than a week old and Sneaky has already lost all control over the 2015 "wild bunch"
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/14 10:05 PM
Prolly won't get any kind of consensus on this but here goes. . . I was going over my hunting bucket list and noticed that most of the items on it require humping relatively long distances thru rough country (mountains, desert, tundra etc). I've decided it's time to get a lightweight hunting rig. Target animals will be different deer types and elk (maybe caribou). I'd like to stay with off the shelf for both rifle and caliber. I am okay with limited availability calibers though (i.e. 280 AI or 7 STW) Any thoughts on brand and caliber greatly appreciated.
Now let the games begin!
I guess it depends a lot on what you want it to do and how far you intend to shoot. I wanted a flat shooting round that hit fairly hard without breaking my shoulder. After a ton of research I settled on a 7 STW with 160 grain Accubonds. Even a 30-378 doesnt shoot but a few inches flatter at extended ranges. That and the slight edge in energy wasn't worth the added recoil, to me. If ammo price and availability isn't a concern, I think its really hard to beat. A 26" barrel is necessary, which is not a handy thing, but the trade off was worth it to me for the performance. Even with a heavy barrel, weight isn't too bad, and the muzzle brake has tamed it to the point that my wife can shoot it, and she's very sensitive to recoil. It's just about the loudest thing I've ever heard, but I can deal with that, too.
As for rifles, it's hard to find a bad one these days. If you want factory, and don't mind the price, I would strongly consider Sako, as well. Very nice rifles.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/14 10:06 PM
Thread is less than a week old and Sneaky has already lost all control over the 2015 "wild bunch"
I never expected less from this crowd.
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/14 10:10 PM
One of the best options got discontinued, the Remington 700 Alaskan Ti. My favorite for those kinds of hunts is still the Remington 700 AWR I in 300wm.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/14 10:18 PM
Those would be great choices, and the 300 WM is a classic, tried and true caliber for that type of hunting.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/14 10:30 PM
I have a Sako 300wsm and love it. Shoot the 180gr Sirrocos (sp)and it has been a dependable shooter out to 5oo yards with a decent Burris scope. Have taken several Elk and a few WT and it has performed flawlessly. Everything on my rifle including ammo is OTC, so easy to get ammo. I chose the 300 in wsm because looking at the factory ammo charts, it held the best drop at range in OTC ammo at the time. I have taken 4 bulls with it in 4 years all but the 1st here one shot deals, the 1st one would have been too, but he moved
I also have a Winchester w/ BOSS 7mm, that has taken quite a few Elk, mule deer and whitail out to 427yrds, I would have to look for the ammo I ended u using since I haven't shot it since I bought the Sako, but pretty sure I was using 180 grn accubonds
I think any reasonable flat shooting rig would do fine in 7mm or 300, my average on an Elk has been within 200yards, which is a chip-shot for most any rifle.
Posted By: Sq2 hunter
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/28/14 01:08 AM
How many days are y'all gonna hunt next year?
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/28/14 01:15 AM
I plan on being there the entire season, which should be 9 days. Probably arrive the afternoon before.
I am tempted to bring a shotgun if grouse season coincides, to have something to do if I tag out early.
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/28/14 09:01 PM
I'm already looking at more camping equipment on-line for the next hunt. 'Seems I didn't learn a d@^+ thing.
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/28/14 10:37 PM
Sneaky, you are over your PM limit. Time to delete some messages. Thanks
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/29/14 12:01 AM
Sneaky, you are over your PM limit. Time to delete some messages. Thanks
Thanks for the heads up. I'll delete some.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/29/14 12:04 AM
I'm already looking at more camping equipment on-line for the next hunt. 'Seems I didn't learn a d@^+ thing.
Yep. I've been looking at small campers.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/29/14 01:35 AM
I'm already looking at more camping equipment on-line for the next hunt. 'Seems I didn't learn a d@^+ thing.
Yep. I've been looking at small campers.
You don't say? hmmmm
Nothing like walking in after working your azz off, taking off the boots and flipping on the heater switch
!!!
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/29/14 01:38 AM
Can't tell you how many times I've said I was buying a gooseneck 8x12 enclosed trailer with torsion axles and converting it with AC and heater unit.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/29/14 01:48 AM
Can't tell you how many times I've said I was buying a gooseneck 8x12 enclosed trailer with torsion axles and converting it with AC and heater unit.
Yes Sir, A/C not as important (usually) unless allot of summertime use. I think you could pick up a good, little used one for a fair price if you give yourself time to shop around. might as well get one already outfitted and skip the learning/fabrication curve..
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/29/14 01:49 AM
I'm already looking at more camping equipment on-line for the next hunt. 'Seems I didn't learn a d@^+ thing.
Yep. I've been looking at small campers.
This is what you need:
Camper. 'Seems he's thought of everything - not to mention I will PAY you to pull this (or a least try) into elk camp.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/29/14 02:05 AM
CR, wonder where his Carbon M detector is for all that indoor propane? Sometimes a tent is a better alternatve
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/29/14 02:06 AM
That's pretty close, Creekrunner.
I was perfectly comfortable in my truck, as always, but it will be a lot easier to haul gear and people and it would be nice to get a shower every few days.
Posted By: 1860.colt
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/29/14 02:23 AM
what kinda price we looken at
Posted By: Shawheel
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/29/14 02:40 AM
I'm already looking at more camping equipment on-line for the next hunt. 'Seems I didn't learn a d@^+ thing.
Yep. I've been looking at small campers.
This is what you need:
Camper. 'Seems he's thought of everything - not to mention I will PAY you to pull this (or a least try) into elk camp.
That's a nice setup, there.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/29/14 03:01 AM
what kinda price we looken at
Find the perfect one for about $11k.
Or were you talking about the hunt?
Posted By: 1860.colt
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/29/14 02:03 PM
the hunt. i can't even aford the $48.00 for public hunt this year,
if i scrape i could. from what i've read, sounds like a good time. i enjoy hitting the WMA for me hog hunts. & if had the money would be right thar with ya. best wishes.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/29/14 02:16 PM
Hard to say what I spent. A person could do it for a grand, easy enough, if they were happy with all the gear they currently had.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/29/14 02:30 PM
I'm already looking at more camping equipment on-line for the next hunt. 'Seems I didn't learn a d@^+ thing.
Yep. I've been looking at small campers.
This is what you need:
Camper. 'Seems he's thought of everything - not to mention I will PAY you to pull this (or a least try) into elk camp.
That all wood? That's expensive firewood
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/29/14 02:32 PM
Carmate pup tent Google it
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/29/14 02:37 PM
I'm already looking at more camping equipment on-line for the next hunt. 'Seems I didn't learn a d@^+ thing.
Yep. I've been looking at small campers.
This is what you need:
Camper. 'Seems he's thought of everything - not to mention I will PAY you to pull this (or a least try) into elk camp.
That all wood? That's expensive firewood
There's a group of guys that hunt in that area every year that have a good sized camper they made from wood. They've been using it for years. A couple of us drove by it on our way to a spring. Looks like entirely too much work, to me, as opposed to just buying one.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/29/14 02:38 PM
Carmate pup tent Google it
Where's the shower?
Posted By: bp3
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/29/14 02:55 PM
Years ago we hunted the late season ( 10 day ) north of Dolores and if it got to bad we would load up after morning hunt and drive to Cortez for whiskey and food. There was a RV park that had public showers and I think we paid 2-3 bucks for a hot shower, best money we ever spent. After a few days instincts will take it's toll, the elk and deer can smell you from a long distance.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/29/14 02:58 PM
I've taken showers at the same place. Money well spent.
the hunt. i can't even aford the $48.00 for public hunt this year,
if i scrape i could. from what i've read, sounds like a good time. i enjoy hitting the WMA for me hog hunts. & if had the money would be right thar with ya. best wishes.
This is the first thing I've ever read from you that actually made sense.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/29/14 03:42 PM
All his post make sense Jensent. He is just making you slow down a little so you don't miss the finer points in life.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/29/14 05:48 PM
There have been a few hunts up there over the years that drug out to the last day with no tubby, those times, I would have traded BOBO's Eldebrock (sp) pack for a shower, or Ford even.........
Edit: or 3 Dodges..........
Posted By: 1860.colt
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/29/14 05:59 PM
not a bad price
Posted By: 1860.colt
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/29/14 06:12 PM
the hunt. i can't even aford the $48.00 for public hunt this year,
if i scrape i could. from what i've read, sounds like a good time. i enjoy hitting the WMA for me hog hunts. & if had the money would be right thar with ya. best wishes.
This is the first thing I've ever read from you that actually made sense.
too many solo hunts
Posted By: 1860.colt
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/29/14 06:14 PM
the hunt. i can't even aford the $48.00 for public hunt this year,
if i scrape i could. from what i've read, sounds like a good time. i enjoy hitting the WMA for me hog hunts. & if had the money would be right thar with ya. best wishes.
This is the first thing I've ever read from you that actually made sense.
too many solo hunts
took 5 tries ta post, my posts are cheap
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/29/14 06:21 PM
Google, "cabin rentals". No down pmt, no insurance to carry & when you leave or something breaks (or burns to the ground if Goldy stays in it) it ain't yo' problem.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/29/14 06:26 PM
Rifleman, I stayed in a very small "cabin" built by a store owner 1 mile from my hunting area (they built 5). They where large enough for 2 guys and some gear, community porta-john. Was $25 per night each, until the place sold, then went to $50 and out-priced the bargain, I haven't seen many in them, since the change. Cabins can be a great deal depending on the variables though.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/29/14 06:28 PM
I've considered cabins, but I like my mobility.
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/29/14 06:33 PM
the ones we stay in sleep 8 and run $110/night with discount. For a group hunt it's a steal.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/29/14 06:36 PM
the ones we stay in sleep 8 and run $110/night with discount. For a group hunt it's a steal.
No kidding!! I would almost feel guilty!
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/29/14 06:37 PM
Heck of a deal.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/29/14 06:40 PM
I've considered cabins, but I like my mobility.
If you are near your normal hunting area, not much reason to be very "mobile" really. IMO though (doesn't mean much) for a one time hunt, or every other few years, a cabin can be a great value (assuming it fits the criteria like location ect tra.) For guy's like me that go every year mostly, getting set up the way you like it seems to be the best way, sometimes it works out cheaper to rent if you get a deal like Rifleman has, but that's not always available where we like to hunt.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/29/14 06:49 PM
I've got other hunts and vacations to consider. I've been putting off getting a camper, but I need one.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/29/14 06:59 PM
I've got other hunts and vacations to consider. I've been putting off getting a camper, but I need one.
I did the same thing, wish I would have done it sooner, but in hindsight, it gave me time to read about things to look for in a camper and what not, but would have been great doing it at your age.
Allot of good deals if you have time to look, I set the bar at rubber roof and fiberglass sides, to many horror story's with the aluminum and I usually try to buy for the long term investment if I can swing it.
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/29/14 07:04 PM
Drive about 20 miles to get to where I actually like to hunt.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/29/14 07:11 PM
Drive about 20 miles to get to where I actually like to hunt.
Not bad for Deer hunt'n. Shoot, I drove further than that when I lived there! LOL
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/29/14 07:33 PM
It's about 30 for elk hunting, but could stop and look at about 15 miles and find some elk pockets. Avg about 150 miles a day.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/29/14 08:50 PM
It's about 30 for elk hunting, but could stop and look at about 15 miles and find some elk pockets. Avg about 150 miles a day.
Not to bad, sounds about how far Sneaky made his crew walk
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/29/14 08:56 PM
Just on the easy days.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/29/14 09:35 PM
You sure run an easy camp! what, was it all old guys like me?
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/29/14 09:54 PM
Now I only put about 15 miles on the kennetrek express.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/29/14 09:56 PM
It was a pretty good mix of ages. We all felt old a few days in.
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/29/14 09:58 PM
I felt old the whole time, oh, wait...
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/29/14 10:00 PM
It's safe to say my Kenetreks are broke in now.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/30/14 10:21 AM
How did everybody's packs work out? Should have been a good learning experience as far as toting gear.
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/30/14 12:36 PM
How did everybody's packs work out? Should have been a good learning experience as far as toting gear.
There's very few things in life I get to say this about - Mine was bigger than everyone else's.
Last day I left it, empty with the frame, in the truck and took just a daypack and a lighter rifle. I felt as light as a feather and could move like the wind.
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/30/14 12:38 PM
How did everybody's packs work out? Should have been a good learning experience as far as toting gear.
I packed my Sitka Flash 20 all 5 days. I have had this pack for a year now and this is my second elk hunt with it. Granted I would never consider using this to pack out quartered elk but as far as gear goes it's hard to beat. It's extremely comfortable, and well ventilated. They did a great job of building it so that the back of the pack is elevated off your back to prevent sweating. Has tons of straps and pockets. My only complaint is that I wish it were bigger or that I bought the 32.
For packing out elk, I have an Osprey Aether that I have used for extended backpacking excursions over the past several years. As far as internal frame truly backpacking packs go it's about as good as it gets I feel. It might be not geared towards packing out meat like an Eberlerstock or Kifaru but it's what I already own and would have worked I feel. Though, I have never tried using it for this.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/30/14 05:12 PM
My Eberlestock performed great, as usual. I just have to figure out how to lighten it.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/30/14 05:35 PM
My Eberlestock performed great, as usual. I just have to figure out how to lighten it.
Switch to smaller pack... More Space you have more we tend to pack. Made myself cut way down this year and it's shocking what you can get your pack to. Kill kit, fire starter, sawyer, tp, havolan, batteries, light, gps, hydration pack.. Done
I'm calling my new found love for minimalist---base camp mode.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/30/14 05:48 PM
How did everybody's packs work out? Should have been a good learning experience as far as toting gear.
I pulled my bag off frame and ran it with a beaver tail and medium stuff sack I made. I was rocking about 7-9lbs total. Few mid day trips I was a little more due to spotting scope. But that's sept weather.
I love my Exo, straps are more comfortable with load and all day then my elberstock.
If my wife gets the itch next year I will probably let her carry mine and I might get the elberstock new f1 mainframe, unless I can figure out an easy way to attack gun scabbard to the EXO.
I'm not an ultra org type guy pack wise. Very few times do I actually get in it.
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/30/14 06:09 PM
My H2 Gunrunner did fine as usual. Ran with a Gatorade, cpl bottles of water, pop tart, batteries, range finder, gps, light, knives, Wy saw, roll of paper towels & camera. Put rifle in the scabbard and kept my binocs out and carried spotting scope on tripod over my shoulder.... when I left the jeep on rare occasion..
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/30/14 06:19 PM
My h2 is loaded and ready for this weekend already. Rifle included
Only thing I hate about that packs is hip belt and how it rolls
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/30/14 07:54 PM
I rarely use that, rifle seems to keep the weight centered in it.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/30/14 08:46 PM
How did everybody's packs work out? Should have been a good learning experience as far as toting gear.
There's very few things in life I get to say this about - Mine was bigger than everyone else's.
Last day I left it, empty with the frame, in the truck and took just a daypack and a lighter rifle. I felt as light as a feather and could move like the wind.
CR, about ruined my Laptop with coffee on that one !
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/30/14 08:49 PM
My Eberlestock performed great, as usual. I just have to figure out how to lighten it.
Switch to smaller pack... More Space you have more we tend to pack. Made myself cut way down this year and it's shocking what you can get your pack to. Kill kit, fire starter, sawyer, tp, havolan, batteries, light, gps, hydration pack.. Done
I'm calling my new found love for minimalist---base camp mode.
That's what I been try'in to say, all summer
But Sneaky was bound and determined to go "heavy" LOL
Don't tell him, but them mountains will break even the most hardheaded
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/30/14 08:55 PM
They didn't break me! Just wore me down pretty good.
I'm considering a smaller pack. I just love my Dragonfly. It's not the pack's fault. I just need to leave a few things in camp.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/30/14 08:55 PM
My H2 Gunrunner did fine as usual. Ran with a Gatorade, cpl bottles of water, pop tart, batteries, range finder, gps, light, knives, Wy saw, roll of paper towels & camera. Put rifle in the scabbard and kept my binocs out and carried spotting scope on tripod over my shoulder.... when I left the jeep on rare occasion..
That sounds similar to what I carry, less the spotting scope, gps and paper towels. Then add rope and rubber gloves, game bags when after elk..
It is much different using the same pack when wearing warm weather bibs and a coat, for some reason always seems to weigh more. I wold imagine my pack weighs in under, or around 20# IDK. 1st couple trips in 80 or 81, I bet my pack came it close to 75#! You learn real damn quick.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/30/14 08:59 PM
They didn't break me! Just wore me down pretty good.
I'm considering a smaller pack. I just love my Dragonfly. It's not the pack's fault. I just need to leave a few things in camp.
Yes sir, each fella will find his comfort zone. You may feel more comfortable with a 50# vs me with a 20#. Plus your younger and in better shape. You fellas would laugh at my Cabelas pack in comparison to some of those fancy packs, I would class mine as a "day pack" I guess. Not meant for hauling out much game, so I don't use it for that.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/30/14 09:04 PM
They didn't break me! Just wore me down pretty good.
I'm considering a smaller pack. I just love my Dragonfly. It's not the pack's fault. I just need to leave a few things in camp.
I'm same way finally I just pulled my bag off the frame and said if it don't fit in 10x15" sack...it ain't going!!!
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/30/14 09:37 PM
They didn't break me! Just wore me down pretty good.
I'm considering a smaller pack. I just love my Dragonfly. It's not the pack's fault. I just need to leave a few things in camp.
Yes sir, each fella will find his comfort zone. You may feel more comfortable with a 50# vs me with a 20#. Plus your younger and in better shape. You fellas would laugh at my Cabelas pack in comparison to some of those fancy packs, I would class mine as a "day pack" I guess. Not meant for hauling out much game, so I don't use it for that.
I wouldn't laugh. Some of the best elk hunters I know carry a little Wal Mart pack with just a few items tossed in.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/30/14 09:37 PM
They didn't break me! Just wore me down pretty good.
I'm considering a smaller pack. I just love my Dragonfly. It's not the pack's fault. I just need to leave a few things in camp.
I'm same way finally I just pulled my bag off the frame and said if it don't fit in 10x15" sack...it ain't going!!!
Not a bad idea.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/30/14 10:00 PM
They didn't break me! Just wore me down pretty good.
I'm considering a smaller pack. I just love my Dragonfly. It's not the pack's fault. I just need to leave a few things in camp.
I'm same way finally I just pulled my bag off the frame and said if it don't fit in 10x15" sack...it ain't going!!!
Not a bad idea.
A friend of mine that I took for his 1st elk hunt years ago, has since bought one of those High $ pack frames as well, but has never taken it in the field as far as I know. He does the same thing, takes the pack off the frame and uses it as a day pack, and that boy can travel in the mountains more than any one I have ever seen. He of course now hunts mostly pay'd private land, so the hunts are extremely easier than a PL hunt. I doubt he carries more than some ammo, a water and binos most of the time, but you can do that with an outfitter.
Posted By: bp3
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/31/14 02:51 AM
If possible we would rent horses and problem solved. I used a small duffle bag and tied behind saddle with flash light, slicker, small hatchet,food etc. I don't know if Sombero ranches out of Boulder still rents horses. They had several ranches west of Boulder and set up places to pick them up or they would deliver a short distance. Was nice to gain 2-3000 ft in a hour or so ,then hunt.Packed out a big mulie on my horse, no rodeo but we thought it would be,apparently he had packed before. We took a trailer with us so we could be mobile and picked up our horses north of Eagle along the Colorado river.
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/31/14 12:23 PM
If possible we would rent horses and problem solved. I used a small duffle bag and tied behind saddle with flash light, slicker, small hatchet,food etc. I don't know if Sombero ranches out of Boulder still rents horses. They had several ranches west of Boulder and set up places to pick them up or they would deliver a short distance. Was nice to gain 2-3000 ft in a hour or so ,then hunt.Packed out a big mulie on my horse, no rodeo but we thought it would be,apparently he had packed before. We took a trailer with us so we could be mobile and picked up our horses north of Eagle along the Colorado river.
I've thought about this, despite some of my younger mentors' thoughts involving the equine family. I'd sure hate to be a rented horse on a mountain hunt though.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/31/14 12:33 PM
If possible we would rent horses and problem solved. I used a small duffle bag and tied behind saddle with flash light, slicker, small hatchet,food etc. I don't know if Sombero ranches out of Boulder still rents horses. They had several ranches west of Boulder and set up places to pick them up or they would deliver a short distance. Was nice to gain 2-3000 ft in a hour or so ,then hunt.Packed out a big mulie on my horse, no rodeo but we thought it would be,apparently he had packed before. We took a trailer with us so we could be mobile and picked up our horses north of Eagle along the Colorado river.
I've thought about this, despite some of my younger mentors' thoughts involving the equine family. I'd sure hate to be a rented horse on a mountain hunt though.
Rented horse is better then bringing one from down here.. From personal experience
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/31/14 01:51 PM
If possible we would rent horses and problem solved. I used a small duffle bag and tied behind saddle with flash light, slicker, small hatchet,food etc. I don't know if Sombero ranches out of Boulder still rents horses. They had several ranches west of Boulder and set up places to pick them up or they would deliver a short distance. Was nice to gain 2-3000 ft in a hour or so ,then hunt.Packed out a big mulie on my horse, no rodeo but we thought it would be,apparently he had packed before. We took a trailer with us so we could be mobile and picked up our horses north of Eagle along the Colorado river.
I've thought about this, despite some of my younger mentors' thoughts involving the equine family. I'd sure hate to be a rented horse on a mountain hunt though.
Rented horse is better then bringing one from down here.. From personal experience
Yep, I at least know about "mountain feet". Don't have horses and never will. Love 'em, don't get me wrong; grandfather raised Tennesee Walkers. I just know from hiring folks - I'd always try to find out if they had horses. Horse people come to work when the horses don't need anything...and horses
always need something.
Posted By: 1860.colt
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/31/14 02:21 PM
If possible we would rent horses and problem solved. I used a small duffle bag and tied behind saddle with flash light, slicker, small hatchet,food etc. I don't know if Sombero ranches out of Boulder still rents horses. They had several ranches west of Boulder and set up places to pick them up or they would deliver a short distance. Was nice to gain 2-3000 ft in a hour or so ,then hunt.Packed out a big mulie on my horse, no rodeo but we thought it would be,apparently he had packed before. We took a trailer with us so we could be mobile and picked up our horses north of Eagle along the Colorado river.
I've thought about this, despite some of my younger mentors' thoughts involving the equine family. I'd sure hate to be a rented horse on a mountain hunt though.
Rented horse is better then bringing one from down here.. From personal experience
Yep, I at least know about "mountain feet". Don't have horses and never will. Love 'em, don't get me wrong; grandfather raised Tennesee Walkers. I just know from hiring folks - I'd always try to find out if they had horses. Horse people come to work when the horses don't need anything...and horses
always need something.
tis what called
good horse scence
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 11/01/14 12:46 AM
I am planning on making this trip next year, I have quite a bit of camping gear but do not have a pack. I see you all mentioning yours and I now see it will be needed, but what are some recommendations for a pack. Also what other gear do you feel is necessary?
Posted By: North2AK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 11/01/14 04:24 AM
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 11/01/14 05:25 PM
I am planning on making this trip next year, I have quite a bit of camping gear but do not have a pack. I see you all mentioning yours and I now see it will be needed, but what are some recommendations for a pack. Also what other gear do you feel is necessary?
There's different ways to go about it and lots of quality brands. I've been using an Eberlestock J107 for everything. It makes a good day pack and freighter. You could also get a smaller day pack and another, bigger pack or frame for hauling meat. I'm considering a smaller pack for day hunts, myself, although I am more than pleased with what I have.
As for other gear, a GPS is nice to have. I would recommend a Havalon Piranta for a knife, to save weight. Quality, broke in boots are pretty essential. A water bladder for your pack. Parachute cord. First aid/survival kit.
I'll post my elk hunting list, again. You won't need all of that. I don't even take all of it. But it'll give you an idea.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 11/01/14 05:28 PM
Elk Hunting List
Pack:
Binos and harness
Lens cloth
Water bladder
5 game bags
Knives
Sharpener
GPS
Maps
Compass
Pen
Zip ties
Parachute cord
Black tape
Flashlight
Headlamp
Batteries
Leatherman
Ammo
Painkillers
Benadryl
Camera
Food
Mole skin
Survival kit:
Waterproof matches
Lighter(2)
Space blanket(2)
Needle
Thread
Super glue(gel and liquid)
Iodine
Quick Clot
Athletic tape
Gauze
Bandages
Water purifier straw
Truck/Camp
Sleeping bag
Pillow
150 quart cooler
65 quart cooler
Ice
Food
Bottled water
Jugs of water
Cooking grate
Camp stove
Pans
Utensils
Paper plates
Trash bags
Spices
Cooking oil
454
Rifle
Ammo
Cleaning kit
Remoil
Batteries
TP
Paper towels
Wipes
Rags
Ax
Hatchet
Shovel
Camp chair
Clothes:
Boots(2-3 pair)
Pants
Shirts
Socks
Underwear
Thermals
Light jacket(waterproof)
Heavy jacket
Orange vest
Orange cap
Balaclava
Gaiters
Posted By: Shawheel
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 11/07/14 02:03 AM
Just finished a book called Public Land Elk Hunting by Matthew Dworak. Nothing earth-shattering, but there was some good, practical stuff in there I picked up. And it was 3.99 for the Kindle version, so you can't beat the price.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 11/07/14 05:14 AM
I read that book on my phone awhile back. It wasn't bad. I read another that was absolutely useless. I don't think the guy had even hunted elk before.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 11/07/14 08:06 AM
You fellas don't need no stink'n book
Get tag, go to mountains, walk to spot, chute a bull, go to camp and have a drink. How hard can that be
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 11/07/14 10:20 AM
It's not, but I have nothing but time when I'm at work. I like to read. It beats manual labor.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 11/12/14 02:53 AM
This trip sounds like an amazing time. How many do y'all have lined up?
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 11/12/14 03:11 AM
I don't know. Too early to tell. On the last trip, we had 5 guys end up going. We could easily do more.
Posted By: Sq2 hunter
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 11/12/14 04:11 AM
Y'all pack in on y'all's hunt? We are trying to put a hunt together this year. Still debating on archery or rifle, second rifle is just so cold and it's hard to bring enough gear on your back 5 miles into the back country for 8 days.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 11/12/14 05:24 AM
We don't pack in. Got plenty of places to go right off the road without going to all of that trouble.
Ok I'm in this time. Who is going that lives in the Metro Mess? Would like to try to drive with someone to share the driving.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 11/13/14 02:30 AM
Ok I'm in this time. Who is going that lives in the Metro Mess? Would like to try to drive with someone to share the driving.
Great! I'm sure someone will be coming from that area.
Posted By: TXHOGSLAYER
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 11/13/14 02:50 AM
I emailed my home state and got me hunters ed certificate in the mail, to make sure I was legal. I am curious what the total cost for the hunt might be? Mostly just licenses and such. I am willing to drive and share with someone. I would probably sleep in my truck but flexible. An elk hunt of this type has been on my bucket list.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 11/13/14 03:03 AM
TXH, I think if you can ride share and "camp share" I'd personally budget $1500 minimum for the trip, including tags, that should take care if something pops up, like a processing fee if you need to use it there for the meat
You will not like sleeping in your truck and for that amount of time , with what you could go through physically. you will want the best rest each night you can get. More often than not, no big deal to share a tent and maybe an extra tent for kitchen and gear.
Posted By: Sq2 hunter
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 11/14/14 03:20 AM
We don't pack in. Got plenty of places to go right off the road without going to all of that trouble.
That would be nice... Are y'all not running into other hunters hunting that close to vehicle access?
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 11/14/14 01:06 PM
We don't pack in. Got plenty of places to go right off the road without going to all of that trouble.
That would be nice... Are y'all not running into other hunters hunting that close to vehicle access?
We saw them, but it wasn't a "pumpkin patch". And when Sneaky goes to the end of the trail, then over the edge, no, not many other
crazy fools hunters at all.
Posted By: Mr. T.
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 11/14/14 03:33 PM
I don't know if this is the place to post this, but I rent out my home in Pagosa Springs colorado to elk hunters. If you hunt area 77,78,771. you can check out the cabin at
www.pagosaspringscabin.com I have thick skin, so if I should have not posted here just someone tell me and I will take it down.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 11/14/14 03:37 PM
[quote=Mr. T.]I don't know if this is the place to post this, but I rent out my home in Pagosa Springs colorado to elk hunters. If you hunt area 77,78,771. you can check out the cabin at
www.pagosaspringscabin.com I have thick skin, so if I should have not posted here just someone tell me and I will take it down. [/quote
Personally, I think this is a good place to post that, been some discusion in this threa about cabin rentals, so..May be something a few could use.
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 11/14/14 06:09 PM
I don't know if this is the place to post this, but I rent out my home in Pagosa Springs colorado to elk hunters. If you hunt area 77,78,771. you can check out the cabin at
www.pagosaspringscabin.com I have thick skin, so if I should have not posted here just someone tell me and I will take it down.
Oh, I think I could "adapt" to that place.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 11/14/14 06:29 PM
I don't know if this is the place to post this, but I rent out my home in Pagosa Springs colorado to elk hunters. If you hunt area 77,78,771. you can check out the cabin at
www.pagosaspringscabin.com I have thick skin, so if I should have not posted here just someone tell me and I will take it down.
Oh, I think I could "adapt" to that place.
You sure CR? How does it compare to what Sneaky put y'all? LOL I guess in fairness, you found the "spot"
That is a nice house/cabin. My uncle had one there in PS East side of golf course on the fairway.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 11/15/14 01:34 AM
I emailed my home state and got me hunters ed certificate in the mail, to make sure I was legal. I am curious what the total cost for the hunt might be? Mostly just licenses and such. I am willing to drive and share with someone. I would probably sleep in my truck but flexible. An elk hunt of this type has been on my bucket list.
The trip itself isn't too bad. About 600 for the tag. Fuel, which isn't bad if you ride with someone else. Food, which is an every day cost, already.
The real expense is buying gear you may need. Some people get by with minimal things, so that's not bad. Others like to have a lot of nice gear. That adds up quick, and is up to the individual.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 11/15/14 01:36 AM
We don't pack in. Got plenty of places to go right off the road without going to all of that trouble.
That would be nice... Are y'all not running into other hunters hunting that close to vehicle access?
We ran into a few up top, which I expected. We spent most of our time between the top and bottom, and hardly saw anyone there, which is what I've come to expect. Even on the good trails, it's not real easy, due to the elevation changes and thin air. Most people avoid it. It's not that bad if you give yourself time and don't mind a little effort.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 11/15/14 01:39 AM
We don't pack in. Got plenty of places to go right off the road without going to all of that trouble.
That would be nice... Are y'all not running into other hunters hunting that close to vehicle access?
We saw them, but it wasn't a "pumpkin patch". And when Sneaky goes to the end of the trail, then over the edge, no, not many other
crazy fools hunters at all.
You should have seen what we bailed off into the first day.....twice. Probably won't do that again.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 12/03/14 04:48 AM
I haven't forgot about this. Just been busy at work. Here's a bump for any would be elk hunters.
Posted By: Jerrod Carroll
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 12/03/14 04:59 AM
Can't wait to go back. I saw some elk while I was traveling on Montana this week and realized its going to be a long year waiting to go again.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 12/03/14 10:30 AM
Yep. I shot a doe last week, which helped. Still not the same, though.
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 12/03/14 11:14 AM
I can't remember if it's been covered - when will the possible NM dates be available? And, if it's a draw, are our chances good, fair, or snowball's?
I'll be gone from around Sept. 20th to around Oct. 7th, but was hoping to hunt with you guys again.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 12/06/14 04:59 PM
I'll have to check. Last I looked, they hadn't posted dates, yet.
I calculated the odds for the hunts I like. Going rate is 1-2%. Not good at all, but they're the best hunts.
Posted By: Shawheel
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/12/15 01:12 AM
Probably about that time to start talking about a meet up of the potential hunters. Anyone interested?
I'm still working on convincing my wife to take a scouting camping trip up there this summer. I'm interested in checking out the Priest Gulch area.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/12/15 01:42 AM
You bet. Let's get something planned. I really liked meeting at Caddo, if that is close enough, again.
I hear Priest Gulch is nasty. There's elk in there, though, and it's something you could handle. I would consider it if my hip wasn't still messed up. I may never fully recover from that.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/12/15 01:45 AM
And, as for New Mexico, the new regs are out. I looked at them, but I think I'm going to hold off on applying for now until I see what oil prices are going to do. I have to focus on this hunt, for now.
If anyone wanted to apply, let me know, and I'll tell you what I know about the different hunts.
Posted By: Shawheel
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/12/15 02:29 AM
Caddo worked for me, I'm good with meeting there again.
As for Priest Gulch, I am good with getting into the deep crap if it gets me into the elk. I am ready to really hit it hard this year.
I've been thinking about you and Jerrod with the oil price dropping recently. You keeping busy?
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/12/15 02:41 AM
You weren't talking like that when we were looking for that "trail"! I found my good glassing spots on Taylor. You can bail off into the canyons and push them out to me.
I've been staying busy. We still have quite a bit of work. Of course, we come in behind the rigs, so as they stack up, it trickles down, later, as we catch up to them. I'm not too worried about it, but I'm preparing, either way.
Posted By: Shawheel
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/12/15 02:44 AM
You weren't talking like that when we were looking for that "trail"! I found my good glassing spots on Taylor. You can bail off into the canyons and push them out to me.
I guess there are two possibilities:
1) It's easy to talk a big game from behind my computer.
2) I've found elk religion.
We won't know for sure until October.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/12/15 03:18 AM
Elk do that to a person. You almost look forward to the pain.
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/12/15 03:27 AM
Elk do that to a person. You almost look forward to the pain.
Speak for yourself.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/12/15 03:53 AM
Elk do that to a person. You almost look forward to the pain.
Speak for yourself.
Almost.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/12/15 11:40 AM
Elk do that to a person. You almost look forward to the pain.
Speak for yourself.
Yeah RIGHT!
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/12/15 03:33 PM
Maybe when I'm old, I'll feel different about it, too.
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/12/15 03:50 PM
Maybe when I'm old, I'll feel different about it, too.
Thanks compadre, that makes me feel so much better. With friends like you...
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/12/15 03:51 PM
Maybe when I'm old, I'll feel different about it, too.
No, you will get smarter at it, but there is hope, it could happen at any time (the getting smart part)
Speaking of "old", hows your hip young whipper snapper? See already happening
When I 1st started Elk hunting, well Mule deer too, I went "hiking" hoping to find one of the 2, then the "old" guys convinced me to "hunt" them and leave hiking to the young fellas.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/12/15 04:59 PM
I had to put in the miles to find my spots. Now I can hunt them. I just need a bird dog to flush them out of the canyons. Maybe Creekrunner will join Shawheel for that job. He loves hiking.
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/12/15 05:45 PM
I had to put in the miles to find my spots. Now I can hunt them. I just need a bird dog to flush them out of the canyons. Maybe Creekrunner will join Shawheel for that job. He loves hiking.
You can take my yappy blue lacy in my place for that. She could do that with aplomb. No rush on bringing her home neither.
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/12/15 08:20 PM
I can't make this years Elk trip but I plan on this being a yearly occurrence down the road. If I have the time off and you guys go scouting this summer let me know. If I have the time off I would go just to get out of the house.
Posted By: Jerrod Carroll
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/12/15 08:43 PM
Hopefully oil prices don't get out of hand. If the meeting ends up being on my days off I'll be there.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/12/15 09:06 PM
Hopefully oil prices don't get out of hand. If the meeting ends up being on my days off I'll be there.
Good. I haven't been to the Johnson County Jail, yet.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/12/15 09:08 PM
I can't make this years Elk trip but I plan on this being a yearly occurrence down the road. If I have the time off and you guys go scouting this summer let me know. If I have the time off I would go just to get out of the house.
I'll either have the time or the money for a scouting trip. Doubt I have both. The trip should be an annual thing, though.
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/13/15 04:01 AM
Hopefully oil prices don't get out of hand. If the meeting ends up being on my days off I'll be there.
Good. I haven't been to the Johnson County Jail, yet.
If Jerrod comes, and alcohol is served, I will definitely be there, no matter the location. 'Regret having never ridden a bull. I don't want to go to my grave never having been in a bar fight. 'Came close once or twice, but I want something "epic". Help an ol' man fulfill his dream.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/13/15 04:18 AM
Careful what you wish for! It takes little encouragement, if any.
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/13/15 04:35 AM
Careful what you wish for! It takes little encouragement, if any.
Nah, I've thought this through. I'm down for that.
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/13/15 04:40 AM
I just remembered, with just a little tweeking, I think I could have gotten my wish at the last meeting. A very drunk guy followed me into the bathroom and started talking about...music. "It's go time."
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/23/15 09:55 PM
Maybe I missed it somewhere, but what were the tentative dates for the co trip?
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/23/15 11:32 PM
The season runs October 18-26. I'll probably try to get there a day early and stay for at least a week.
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/24/15 12:31 AM
That's either dedication or pessimism.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/24/15 12:45 AM
A little of both!
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/24/15 01:19 AM
If you're going to go to the trouble, might as well make a time out of it.
Posted By: Stub
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/24/15 01:22 AM
Hopefully oil prices don't get out of hand. If the meeting ends up being on my days off I'll be there.
Good. I haven't been to the Johnson County Jail, yet.
If Jerrod comes, and alcohol is served, I will definitely be there, no matter the location. 'Regret having never ridden a bull. I don't want to go to my
grave never having been in a bar fight. 'Came close once or twice, but I want something "epic". Help an ol' man fulfill his dream.
Creek leave that to the 18 - 35 year olds. Recovery at our age would not be worth it. Unless you just jack somebody and done
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/27/15 11:21 AM
I'm in for a meeting and or scouting trip, would anyone have any objections to me bringing my young boys (8 and 11) to the scouting trip? Any idea when? I am back in Nigeria right now and do not know what my schedule looks like so I will try to mold my schedule to the trip instead of the other way around.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/27/15 04:20 PM
Does anyone have a map of where yall hunted last year? If so, any points of interest that yall used like where everything was located... camp, good areas, bad areas, etc.?
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/27/15 05:48 PM
No idea on a scouting trip. I know I can't do one.
As for a meeting, we haven't decided yet. It'll probably be in Cleburne, but I don't know when. Work is kind of hectic for me, right now, so it may be in spring or summer.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/27/15 05:51 PM
Does anyone have a map of where yall hunted last year? If so, any points of interest that yall used like where everything was located... camp, good areas, bad areas, etc.?
We were on Taylor Mesa. The specifics are in my head and GPS.
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/27/15 06:18 PM
No idea on a scouting trip. I know I can't do one.
As for a meeting, we haven't decided yet. It'll probably be in Cleburne, but I don't know when. Work is kind of hectic for me, right now, so it may be in spring or summer.
Make hay while the sun's shinin' young man. We'll hunt when you can.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/27/15 07:14 PM
Does anyone have a map of where yall hunted last year? If so, any points of interest that yall used like where everything was located... camp, good areas, bad areas, etc.?
We were on Taylor Mesa. The specifics are in my head and GPS.
Well that doesn't help. lol I was just looking on google maps trying to get a layout of where yall were hunting and camping.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/27/15 07:33 PM
is Taylor Mesa to the northeast of Cortez?, almost due north from Mancos? I used to hunt just east of Mancos.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/27/15 08:36 PM
is Taylor Mesa to the northeast of Cortez?, almost due north from Mancos? I used to hunt just east of Mancos.
Northish of Mancos, but Just ENE of Delores. Where you near Purgatory?
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/27/15 09:20 PM
Taylor Mesa is between Dolores and Rico, right off the scenic highway.
That's about as specific as I can get, for now. Anyone going with us will hunt our spots, obviously, but I don't like to give them out on the Internet. Basically, we camp down one of the main FS roads on top of the mesa. I don't remember offhand which one, exactly, but it goes from the highway, straight to the top. One of the other guys may remember. I don't have my maps with me. From camp, we will drive to a nearby trailhead and take off on foot. We mainly only hunt the top on our way to less crowded spots. Mainly, we focus on the stuff between the top and the bottom. The steeper stuff. So, anything between the top of Taylor Mesa and the surrounding valleys and roads is where we hunt. I hope that helps.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/27/15 09:25 PM
That makes since Sneaky. Thanks. I was just snooping around on google looking at different spots on Taylor mesa and was just curious.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/27/15 09:29 PM
I have a general idea where ya'll are talking. We hunted for years all around Bayfield to Chimney Rock area up above Lake Vallecito, then moved west of Durango in the Cherry Creek Basin area immediately east of Mancos (up on top, north side before the big drop off) all around Madden, Helmet, Babcock Peaks. Pretty decent elk when they had pushed down that far south. I hunted high around timberline a few times above Silverton too.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/27/15 10:13 PM
Anyone that commits to going will get more specific information as we get closer to going. These areas aren't big secrets, or anything, I just don't like to brodcast too much information, anyway. Also, I'll have my maps out then, and I can show you much better.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/27/15 10:15 PM
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/28/15 12:19 AM
Anyone that commits to going will get more specific information as we get closer to going. These areas aren't big secrets, or anything, I just don't like to brodcast too much information, anyway. Also, I'll have my maps out then, and I can show you much better.
That is the way you have to be, it is just prudent.
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/28/15 11:35 AM
Sneaky meeting up in Cleburne works well for me, about 3 hour drive for me, but I like to drive. I am so looking forward to this trip! Is there room for a motor home where ya'll camp at? I am looking at buying one this year and would want to bring it to Colorado if I do.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/28/15 02:39 PM
I guess I need to go back to the beginning of this thread and start reading to see what I might have missed before I start asking repetitive questions ...
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/28/15 08:09 PM
Deep Sea, there is room where we camp, but getting there is the tricky part. It would depend on how big the motor home is and the weather when we get there.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/28/15 08:21 PM
Deep Sea, there is room where we camp, but getting there is the tricky part. It would depend on how big the motor home is and the weather when we get there.
Looked like plenty of room from a few camp photos you fellas posted last year. Like you said, it depends on how good the "goat" trail is to get there.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/28/15 10:07 PM
I think it would be okay if the weather is good. I couldn't say for sure.
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/30/15 01:22 PM
Well it will be a mid size motorhome, probably 30' or so, not a mansion, but better than cousin Eddie Griswolds! Looked like there would plenty of room from ya'lls pics just curious. I have a small pop up camper now, thought about it or tent camping it. I have been wanting to get an RV for some time now, so this an another trip I have planned might be my perfect excuse.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/30/15 01:28 PM
Deep Sea, I have stayed in a friends pop-up once, we all decided never again. Sleeping elevated off the ground and we froze on the bottom and stayed toasty on top.
I'd do the tent thing if I didn't have a camper. 2 tents work great, one for gear and one for the sleeping and day gear. A tarp between the 2 makes a great cooking area if you can control the smoke.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/30/15 02:52 PM
Are yall using shooting sticks or bipods, or just using a tree/offhand? I was debating on a bipod, but don't really need it for my typical whitetail hunting.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/30/15 02:55 PM
...also anyone carrying a sidearm while out hunting elk? If so 9mm too small or am I going to have to convince the wife I NEED a bigger pistol?
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/30/15 03:20 PM
I always carry a pistol while hunting, never know what or who you might meet up with!
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/30/15 03:23 PM
I took the bogpod tripod, but never took them out of the truck. I've spoken with a European hunter that swears by a single stick, a little taller than yourself, for shooting up and downhill. It would be good to have something that can double as a walking staff in that country.
Didn't carry a side arm with the rifle, but did have one in camp.
"You definitely need a bigger pistol" is what I've been told.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/30/15 04:01 PM
Bigger pistol...now which caliber? My biggest concern is walking up on a bear. I do have some self defense rounds for my 9mm but wasn't sure if that was enough to slow a bear down.
I do know 2 target rounds in a large pig, in the dark, will still make one run off lol. Only reason for the target rounds was that I was shooting the day prior and forgot to put my mag containing the self defense rounds back in the gun
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/30/15 04:17 PM
I used to carry a side-arm, years ago, more a PITA than a need IMO. You have the added weight and whatever contraption you use to keep it on your body, PITA when having to layer clothing.
I also used to have an extendable bipod (connected to rifle) also is a PITA when walking through brush on occasion) I neved used a hand held one, but have a few friends that brought them, they leave them in camp usually by the 2nd day.
There is enough rocks and trees to secure a shooting position and it is much quicker IMO. My style of hunting is "go to my chosen spot and sit, so I have time to decide where I will place my rifle. If your one of those that like chasing or hiking for Elk for 40 miles,, you may find a "stick" useful IDK. If you do "chas'em" might as well carry some salt to put on their tail too
Worry about cats more than a bear, if a cat gets you unawares, then a pistol probably a moot point anyhoo. BTW, when I am on the move, I have my rifle barrel sticking up behind my neck, just because
Most of the time those animals will know your there wayyy before you know you're there LOL. Get into it with a black bear and fight for all your worth, make it not worth the trouble. Play dead and you loose.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/30/15 05:16 PM
All of that makes sense. thanks.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/30/15 09:18 PM
Pistols and bipods can seem useful, but they're more things to slow you down that you'll find less practical use for than you thought. If you're going to hike into a spot and overlook a bowl all day, then hike out, some sort of rest like sticks can be nice to have. If you're going to be on the move, it's not worth it. I've never felt the need for a pistol when I'm carrying a rifle, but I do take my .454 with me in case I need it.
The thing about big RV's is the road going up the mountain to where we camp. It was fine on the last hunt, but the weather was nice. If the road is covered in snow, I wouldn't want to take anything that big up that road. Smaller campers would be fine.
Posted By: RutHunter76
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/30/15 09:19 PM
You guys see any mule deer bucks while you were hunting? I know that would be draw but like hunting mule deer also.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/30/15 09:58 PM
There's some up there. I've yet to see a good one, but someone in the group always does.
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/31/15 12:18 AM
Sneak - Clear your PMs. What the hell does everyone PM you about?!!
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/31/15 12:29 AM
Sneak - Clear your PMs. What the hell does everyone PM you about?!!
Ah er......Sacrifice.....
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/31/15 01:10 AM
Sorry. I'm just bad about cleaning it out. Few people care to talk to me around here. I'll get right on that.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/31/15 01:11 AM
Sneak - Clear your PMs. What the hell does everyone PM you about?!!
Ah er......Sacrifice.....
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/31/15 01:31 AM
Figured the assault you took in that thread, may have spilled over into the pm box.. You sure bring out the "best" in folks
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/31/15 04:13 AM
Nah. Some people just can't read. That's their problem.
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/31/15 04:34 AM
Don't delete all the good info I sent, that only gets shared once.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/31/15 07:44 AM
I always make sure to keep those messages. It's why I'm reluctant to clean out the inbox. I don't want anything important getting deleted.
Posted By: Shawheel
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/31/15 01:38 PM
You guys see any mule deer bucks while you were hunting? I know that would be draw but like hunting mule deer also.
I saw one very small buck and several does. For the specific area we were hunting, I'm not sure the draw tag would be worth it.
Posted By: Shawheel
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/31/15 01:39 PM
Sneak - Clear your PMs. What the hell does everyone PM you about?!!
This guy's connected, man. He's working a lot of angles!
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/31/15 08:10 PM
You guys see any mule deer bucks while you were hunting? I know that would be draw but like hunting mule deer also.
I saw one very small buck and several does. For the specific area we were hunting, I'm not sure the draw tag would be worth it.
You're right about that specific area, but the county actually holds the current typical world record. You just have to go to another side of the unit to get into the better deer spots.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 01/31/15 08:12 PM
Sneak - Clear your PMs. What the hell does everyone PM you about?!!
This guy's connected, man. He's working a lot of angles!
I'm sneaky like that.
Posted By: sparrish8
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 02/02/15 09:01 PM
Why would you not put in for the draw in new mexico, the price is almost the same to hunt in the Gila where their are monster bulls everywhere on public land if you dont draw you get your $$ back?
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 02/02/15 09:44 PM
Because I'm commited to the CO trip. I don't know right now if I can swing both hunts, so NM is out, this go round.
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 02/04/15 06:35 PM
Check emails, the hunt/harvest surveys got sent out.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 02/05/15 08:56 PM
Should those of us hoping to go on this trip be in that email list or was that pertaining to something else?
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 02/05/15 09:11 PM
It's for people that hunted last year. It's a harvest survey. I haven't received one, but I think it's a random thing and not everyone is picked. I hope so, anyway.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 02/05/15 09:20 PM
I wasn't sure if there was some secret email club on this or not lol
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 02/05/15 09:27 PM
It's for people that hunted last year. It's a harvest survey. I haven't received one, but I think it's a random thing and not everyone is picked. I hope so, anyway.
I need to buy a lotto ticket if it is random...or they just know I'm killing something.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 02/05/15 09:48 PM
It's for people that hunted last year. It's a harvest survey. I haven't received one, but I think it's a random thing and not everyone is picked. I hope so, anyway.
I need to buy a lotto ticket if it is random...or they just know I'm killing something.
Same here just got mine.
Its not random they just do it via email now and not phone call
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 02/05/15 09:49 PM
I wasn't sure if there was some secret email club on this or not lol
Have you signed up for Crossfit yet? If you started today, you might be ok.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 02/05/15 09:50 PM
It's for people that hunted last year. It's a harvest survey. I haven't received one, but I think it's a random thing and not everyone is picked. I hope so, anyway.
Four questions
Did you kill--sex, date killed
Unit
Where you satisfied
How many days spent hunting
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 02/05/15 10:40 PM
I got the questionnaire for 2013 took a bull, I haven't got one for this year and took a bull. I think it's random since I have only ever got maybe 10 questionnaires.
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 02/05/15 10:43 PM
Since all deer are LE, they might send it to all deer hunters and random elk.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 02/05/15 10:47 PM
I wasn't sure if there was some secret email club on this or not lol
Have you signed up for Crossfit yet? If you started today, you might be ok.
AMEN to that! The last trip I took was about 22-23 years ago, when I was much younger and in MUCH better physical shape and it about killed me even then. I remember preparing by running 3 miles 3 times a week and 5 miles on weekends, hitting the gym 5 days splitting weights & aerobics. But ... I was birddogging canyons busting stuff out for my dad and father-in-law most of the time. I am DONE with that nonsense! Let the young studs do that now. Wisdom comes with age
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 02/06/15 01:53 AM
It's for people that hunted last year. It's a harvest survey. I haven't received one, but I think it's a random thing and not everyone is picked. I hope so, anyway.
Four questions
Did you kill--sex, date killed
Unit
Where you satisfied
How many days spent hunting
I've filled it out before. I just didn't get one this year. I thought it was random. If it's not, then I should probably contact them about it.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 02/06/15 02:21 AM
BTW, the one I got for the 2013 year, also was by email. The ones I got before where by mail.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 02/06/15 06:35 PM
I wasn't sure if there was some secret email club on this or not lol
Have you signed up for Crossfit yet? If you started today, you might be ok.
You wont catch me doing crossfit. Its just another hyped up workout fad. Although I do need to workout
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 03/02/15 04:45 AM
Thought y'all needed to see this.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 03/02/15 08:55 AM
I think you're trying to tell us something more than just the difference in elk and moose.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 03/02/15 11:02 AM
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 03/02/15 01:20 PM
Nope, no secret message, since no elk were harmed in the '14 outting I wanted to make sure yall had all the info.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 03/02/15 01:22 PM
Nope, no secret message, since no elk were harmed in the '14 outting I wanted to make sure yall had all the info.
That was pretty hard on them boys Rifleman LOL Sneaky, I think the gauntlet has been thrown!
I got my bull
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 03/02/15 01:28 PM
I emailed that out with the schedule and pmt info for our '11 group hunt and it was well received.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 03/02/15 01:37 PM
On a side, I'd be tickled as heck to see a moose, I have heard of them showing up occasionally in the SW areas. More known to be mid-state, north, but it would be a treat.
When we lived on the Western slope, we would occasionally hear of hunters severely fined for shooting one while elk hunting, totally blows my mind how someone could make that mistake. Same for outfitters horses too, some folks just shouldn't be hunting...
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 03/02/15 01:41 PM
The DOW office in Gunnison has a nice illustration on the wall of not shooting moose. Saw a cpl cows a few years back on our buddy's place along Cebolla creek, but haven't seen any bulls. Just don't spend a ton of time around where they live.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 03/02/15 01:48 PM
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 03/02/15 02:00 PM
They're like brown antlered giraffes.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 03/02/15 02:02 PM
Let me guess BOBO, you didn't have a tag?
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 03/02/15 02:02 PM
That one is outside of Denver in a buddies front yard
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 03/02/15 02:10 PM
That one is outside of Denver in a buddies front yard
And the hold up was????
Nice bull from some I have seen on video up there though, bet that was a real treat to see
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 03/02/15 02:22 PM
That one is outside of Denver in a buddies front yard
And the hold up was????
Nice bull from some I have seen on video up there though, bet that was a real treat to see
Lol he sent the pic to me. Said he watched him for 20 min.
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 03/02/15 02:24 PM
Same for outfitters horses too, some folks just shouldn't be hunting...
Reminds me of that joke with the cowboy yelling "It's your deer lady; it's your deer! Just let me get my saddle off of it."
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 03/02/15 02:42 PM
Posted By: Dustnsand
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 03/02/15 02:47 PM
Damn those things are huge. It's pretty cool to see them in person.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 03/03/15 12:03 AM
What a wild thing to see. Absolutely massive.
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 03/11/15 07:58 PM
Waghorn Wednesday
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 03/11/15 08:11 PM
was that one yall saw this past trip?
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 03/11/15 11:09 PM
no, that's a little dink I saw in a different unit.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 03/12/15 04:20 AM
He's sticking his tongue out at you. Great photo.
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 03/12/15 06:56 PM
Scent checking to the West...smells some funk coming from that way.
I emailed that out with the schedule and pmt info for our '11 group hunt and it was well received.
They have signs like that all over Wyoming. When I drew a moose tag I took a photo of my dead moose with that sign with the caption "Oops!".
(Lost that pic in a phone snafu though.)
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 03/13/15 01:49 PM
Sure would have liked to see that.
Posted By: Shawheel
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 03/25/15 11:28 AM
Sorry to have to be another drop-out for this season, but we recently learned that we have a baby on the way (that's number 5 to those that are counting) and the due date is October 7, 2015. I technically could make the hunt, but it would be the last thing I do as a married man.
I will be there in 2016!
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 03/25/15 12:16 PM
Congrats!
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 03/25/15 12:27 PM
Sorry to have to be another drop-out for this season, but we recently learned that we have a baby on the way (that's number 5 to those that are counting) and the due date is October 7, 2015. I technically could make the hunt, but it would be the last thing I do as a married man.
I will be there in 2016!
I know just the rough outline of this young couple's life. And I'm exhausted just thinking about it. No way I had that kind of energy (or patience) at their age. Great parents right here. The world needs more of them.
Congratulations!!!
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 03/25/15 01:41 PM
BUT, it is #5, bet she has it down pretty good by now
J/K
Actually once, I had a LEO buddy stationed up in Vega TX, his son was born the day we left to Colorado. luckily his son was born in the AM and we left that afternoon. Wife was cool with it and had her parents there.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 03/26/15 02:03 AM
Sorry to have to be another drop-out for this season, but we recently learned that we have a baby on the way (that's number 5 to those that are counting) and the due date is October 7, 2015. I technically could make the hunt, but it would be the last thing I do as a married man.
I will be there in 2016!
That is outstanding. Congratulations. Can't think of a better reason to miss out on anything.
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 03/26/15 02:04 AM
Could look at it as her already having 4 little helpers and needing to go hunt to be out of the way...
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 03/26/15 02:13 AM
Could look at it as her already having 4 little helpers and needing to go hunt to be out of the way...
Yep. Those girls are old enough.
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 03/26/15 02:40 AM
My wife was 38 wks pregnant with our first son when I went on my first Elk trip to Colorado. To top it off I flew from there to a grad school interview once the hunt was done. Needless to say my oldest is truly well behaved cause he made sure and waited for me to get home before making his entrance. Dang good thing he did cause otherwise the semiannual reminder of how great of a wife she is would become a weekly occurrence instead of semiannual. Probably a bad move on my part but, it worked out.
Congrats Shawheel. You are making the right decision.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 04/08/15 02:46 AM
I haven't forgot about this, guys. I've just been working as much as I can while we have work available. If the oilfield holds up enough, I'm still planning on doing this. I'll let y'all know if that changes.
Anybody still planning on going?
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 04/08/15 03:33 AM
I sincerely do hope to be in Colorado in Oct of this year.
Posted By: Shawheel
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 04/08/15 10:23 AM
Still planning on joining the 2016 group hunt. But if you guys have a planning meeting, I'll probably still go so I can witness/assist Creekrunner get into his first bar fight. Roadhouse!
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 04/08/15 12:24 PM
I'm still a maybe. Got that other trip that'll be right before it.
Glad you're working Sneaky.
Posted By: Chunky Monkey
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 04/08/15 03:14 PM
I'll be there in September for Elk hunting.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 04/08/15 11:24 PM
A meet up would be nice. I'm open to suggestions.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 04/09/15 12:35 AM
I sincerely do hope to be in Colorado in Oct of this year.
I hope not to be there in sept and in NM instead
Put down the cannon and give Ulmer a run for his money
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 04/09/15 12:36 AM
I'll be there in September for Elk hunting.
Posted By: Chunky Monkey
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 04/09/15 12:54 AM
I think this is a really good thing you're doing Sneaky.
Good for you man.
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 04/09/15 03:09 AM
I sincerely do hope to be in Colorado in Oct of this year.
I hope not to be there in sept and in NM instead
Put down the cannon and give Ulmer a run for his money
Since our regular unit has a 4th season now.....cannon is going nowhere...
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 04/09/15 03:58 AM
I think this is a really good thing you're doing Sneaky.
Good for you man.
It's a lot of fun. Everyone should try it.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 04/09/15 02:30 PM
I'm still planning on making it
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 04/09/15 05:46 PM
Good deal.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 04/09/15 06:10 PM
I hopefully will be over the hill from you fellas, earlier if I draw out.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 04/09/15 06:11 PM
I sincerely do hope to be in Colorado in Oct of this year.
I hope not to be there in sept and in NM instead
Put down the cannon and give Ulmer a run for his money
Since our regular unit has a 4th season now.....cannon is going nowhere...
You still have the golf course issue though
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 04/09/15 07:03 PM
Oh no, that bowl that holds 300-500 head of does gets real interesting when rut's in swing.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/03/15 07:25 PM
Is this still a go?
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/03/15 07:50 PM
I think your illustrious leader has disappeared, now it falls on Creekrunner to lead
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/03/15 07:50 PM
Na, he's just Sneaky.
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/04/15 12:11 AM
I think your illustrious leader has disappeared, now it falls on Creekrunner to lead
Nyet. Sneaky's still in charge, he's just working. I might not make it this year due to being on a trip right before the season.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/04/15 01:04 AM
Yes sir. So far. I don't mean to be so absent, but I've picked up some very demanding work. It's not the usual sit around all day kind of jobs I'm usually on. We are in and out of the wells all day from 5:30 in the morning til about 10:30 at night. I got off early today. I'll check in on this thread from time to time if y'all want to discuss anything.
I'm glad you bumped it. We should probably make some plans. Having done it last year, a lot of it is already worked out. If you have any questions, fire away.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/04/15 02:19 AM
Good to see you paying attention bud, got to put beans on the table no doubt.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/04/15 03:01 AM
Yeah, it's good work, too, considering the slow downs. Also, with as busy as we stay all day, I feel like it's going to help me ramp up my weight loss and getting in shape. I'm pretty well pleased with it all.
Did you put in for a first season tag or anything?
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/04/15 03:03 AM
So you're saying you plan to show up in shape and offer to pack out everyone's elk this year?
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/04/15 10:35 AM
Did I mention the lower back pains all this work has been causing me?
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/04/15 11:28 AM
Yeah, it's good work, too, considering the slow downs. Also, with as busy as we stay all day, I feel like it's going to help me ramp up my weight loss and getting in shape. I'm pretty well pleased with it all.
Did you put in for a first season tag or anything?
Yes sir, drew my 1st season elk rifle
Good to hear you kept the ball rolling, been tough on a few for sure
If it gets you in shape as a byproduct, cant ask for more.
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/04/15 02:05 PM
Did I mention the lower back pains all this work has been causing me?
Added to the gear list....
https://www.copperfitback.com/?mid=6264527&gclid=CK-Mpsqa9sUCFQ8waQodfKIANg
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/04/15 02:27 PM
Yes sir. So far. I don't mean to be so absent, but I've picked up some very demanding work. It's not the usual sit around all day kind of jobs I'm usually on. We are in and out of the wells all day from 5:30 in the morning til about 10:30 at night. I got off early today. I'll check in on this thread from time to time if y'all want to discuss anything.
I'm glad you bumped it. We should probably make some plans. Having done it last year, a lot of it is already worked out. If you have any questions, fire away.
No worries at all. I was just thinking about it and had to jump through hoops to even find this thread to see if there was an update on anything. I wouldn't mind a meet up somewhere to iron out some details and to meet who all may be going.
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/04/15 02:27 PM
They wear girdles in the oilfield? I kid. I saved the page. If it's good enough for Brett...
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/04/15 02:29 PM
Yes sir. So far. I don't mean to be so absent, but I've picked up some very demanding work. It's not the usual sit around all day kind of jobs I'm usually on. We are in and out of the wells all day from 5:30 in the morning til about 10:30 at night. I got off early today. I'll check in on this thread from time to time if y'all want to discuss anything.
I'm glad you bumped it. We should probably make some plans. Having done it last year, a lot of it is already worked out. If you have any questions, fire away.
No worries at all. I was just thinking about it and had to jump through hoops to even find this thread to see if there was an update on anything. I wouldn't mind a meet up somewhere to iron out some details and to meet who all may be going.
Put it in your watched topics and turn on "immediate notification". It will send you an email whenever something new is posted. That way you won't have to hunt for it.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/04/15 02:34 PM
Thanks Creekrunner. That'll make it a lot easier. Last time I had to go through My stuff --> posts and dig through the pages to find it.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/04/15 03:01 PM
just curious, how many are still considering doing this group hunt?
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/04/15 03:34 PM
They wear girdles in the oilfield? I kid. I saved the page. If it's good enough for Brett...
CR, it's the new oil field "Don't ask, Don't tell" policy
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/04/15 04:33 PM
Yes sir. So far. I don't mean to be so absent, but I've picked up some very demanding work. It's not the usual sit around all day kind of jobs I'm usually on. We are in and out of the wells all day from 5:30 in the morning til about 10:30 at night. I got off early today. I'll check in on this thread from time to time if y'all want to discuss anything.
I'm glad you bumped it. We should probably make some plans. Having done it last year, a lot of it is already worked out. If you have any questions, fire away.
No worries at all. I was just thinking about it and had to jump through hoops to even find this thread to see if there was an update on anything. I wouldn't mind a meet up somewhere to iron out some details and to meet who all may be going.
I wouldn't mind, either, if we could find a central location that's convenient for everyone. We did Cleburne, last time, since it was convenient for most.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/04/15 04:35 PM
just curious, how many are still considering doing this group hunt?
Not sure. I can think of 3, right now. A lot of guys have conflicting plans this year.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/04/15 06:01 PM
I am kinda waffling myself due to an expected business trip to New England around that time frame but hopefully I can get that sorted out shortly.
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/04/15 06:53 PM
Shaping up to be nice for y'all. Mild Winter and getting decent amounts of rain. Rumored growth looks good.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/04/15 09:26 PM
I'm pretty sure I read in the hunting rules for Co. that you cant hunt on an atv/utv, but that you can use it for transporting an animal out? Does anyone plan to take an atv/utv or is it too much of a hassle to even take one?
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/04/15 10:39 PM
You can use and ATV, but firearms have to be unloaded and cased. They are good to get around if there is trails/forest roads, but 9/10, it would be hard to get to a downed animal unless you are hunting PL fields.
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/04/15 10:58 PM
In the area we hunted in, and Sneaky may be headed to the same spot, no atv/utvs are allowed for any reason.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/05/15 12:12 AM
In the area we hunted in, and Sneaky may be headed to the same spot, no atv/utvs are allowed for any reason.
Yeah, some areas are horseback or foot only, no motorized vehicles.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/05/15 12:15 AM
Well that answers my question on if I should bring the RTV or not
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/05/15 12:38 AM
Well that answers my question on if I should bring the RTV or not
Your in luck if CR goes, he will be your "hoss", guy can walk for miles
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/05/15 12:41 AM
Well that answers my question on if I should bring the RTV or not
Your in luck if CR goes, he will be your "hoss", guy can walk for miles
Now that's not even nice. Besa my big, fat, white...
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/05/15 05:28 AM
Four wheelers won't even go where I intend to take you. Even mules tend to show their stubborn side when they see the likes of this terrain.
But, we'll only cover 10 or 12 miles of it each day. That's the good news.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/05/15 12:35 PM
Well that answers my question on if I should bring the RTV or not
Your in luck if CR goes, he will be your "hoss", guy can walk for miles
Now that's not even nice. Besa my big, fat, white...
What
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/05/15 01:53 PM
Four wheelers won't even go where I intend to take you. Even mules tend to show their stubborn side when they see the likes of this terrain.
But, we'll only cover 10 or 12 miles of it each day. That's the good news.
Sounds good. A little late start, but I need to start my training. Better late than never right? I feel I could walk for miles. I may be huffin and puffin, but I can get there.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/05/15 02:00 PM
I also plan to keep my pack as minimal as possible since they are just day trips.
I'm planning on carrying:
-2 cans of snuff
-TP
-bullets
-food for the day
-water
-couple of knives and a sharpener
-lighter for just in case
-binos
-extra socks
-rope
-a few zip ties
-gun (obviously)
Just trying to keep the pack as light as possible and in all reality, I could probably get away with less.
Speaking of binos, any of yall use one of those binos harnesses? The one that straps around your shoulders? I saw those the other day in cabela's and was curious about them.
Posted By: GreenAggie
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/05/15 02:14 PM
I use the Crooked Horn bino system. Love it. Binoculars are always handy and never in the way.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/05/15 03:03 PM
I also plan to keep my pack as minimal as possible since they are just day trips.
I'm planning on carrying:
-2 cans of snuff
-TP
-bullets
-food for the day
-water
-couple of knives and a sharpener
-lighter for just in case
-binos
-extra socks
-rope
-a few zip ties
-gun (obviously)
Just trying to keep the pack as light as possible and in all reality, I could probably get away with less.
Speaking of binos, any of yall use one of those binos harnesses? The one that straps around your shoulders? I saw those the other day in cabela's and was curious about them.
A harness is a must IMO, if you need the binos in hurry, you don't need to be fulling around with your pack and a single strap bino will be a PITA. Get a harness and never look back
BTW, might consider a set of large cotton game bags to hang the meat in (easy to get in colorado). I would cut the extra socks in leu of game bags. Pack looks pretty good over all. Might want 3 cans of snuff in case you overnight, it happens.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/05/15 03:06 PM
A light pack is good, from what I hear. I haven't quite got that part down, yet.
There's some nasty terrain up there, but I got most of it figured out last year, so we can avoid it. We'll being going up and down a lot, but it's relatively easy. I've got a couple bowls that hold elk that most people don't mess with. We can hike up to them and sit all day. If we get bored, we can walk some benches they like to hang out on.
I've used a Crooked Horn harness for years. They're great. I've upgraded to a KUIU, and there's some other nice ones. Just depends on how nice you want and what you are willing to spend.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/05/15 03:11 PM
I also plan to keep my pack as minimal as possible since they are just day trips.
I'm planning on carrying:
-2 cans of snuff
-TP
-bullets
-food for the day
-water
-couple of knives and a sharpener
-lighter for just in case
-binos
-extra socks
-rope
-a few zip ties
-gun (obviously)
Just trying to keep the pack as light as possible and in all reality, I could probably get away with less.
Speaking of binos, any of yall use one of those binos harnesses? The one that straps around your shoulders? I saw those the other day in cabela's and was curious about them.
A harness is a must IMO, if you need the binos in hurry, you don't need to be fulling around with your pack and a single strap bino will be a PITA. Get a harness and never look back
BTW, might consider a set of large cotton game bags to hang the meat in (easy to get in colorado). I would cut the extra socks in leu of game bags. Pack looks pretty good over all. Might want 3 cans of snuff in case you overnight, it happens.
FHF gear. Love mine. Had the kuiu one and sold it
No more elastic ones for me. Almost knocked my teeth out climbing a fence.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/05/15 03:43 PM
Oh, yall are talking about those fancy harness/pounches. I was talking more along the lines of those $40 cabela's hybrid harness that you clip your binos to.
Like these:
Harness
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/05/15 05:15 PM
Looks pretty much like mine and I like them. It Stretches over heavy bibs and still out of the way from my pack straps and rifle sling. You can get all fancy and spend a lot more, but if it works, why go all "fashion model"
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/06/15 06:05 PM
Oh, yall are talking about those fancy harness/pounches. I was talking more along the lines of those $40 cabela's hybrid harness that you clip your binos to.
Like these:
Harness That will serve you well.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/06/15 06:06 PM
I also plan to keep my pack as minimal as possible since they are just day trips.
I'm planning on carrying:
-2 cans of snuff
-TP
-bullets
-food for the day
-water
-couple of knives and a sharpener
-lighter for just in case
-binos
-extra socks
-rope
-a few zip ties
-gun (obviously)
Just trying to keep the pack as light as possible and in all reality, I could probably get away with less.
Speaking of binos, any of yall use one of those binos harnesses? The one that straps around your shoulders? I saw those the other day in cabela's and was curious about them.
A harness is a must IMO, if you need the binos in hurry, you don't need to be fulling around with your pack and a single strap bino will be a PITA. Get a harness and never look back
BTW, might consider a set of large cotton game bags to hang the meat in (easy to get in colorado). I would cut the extra socks in leu of game bags. Pack looks pretty good over all. Might want 3 cans of snuff in case you overnight, it happens.
FHF gear. Love mine. Had the kuiu one and sold it
No more elastic ones for me. Almost knocked my teeth out climbing a fence.
The FHF looks nice. What do you like better about them over the KUIU?
Posted By: Shawheel
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/06/15 10:18 PM
By the way, even though I won't be there this year, if anyone wants to borrow the big, stupid camp oven let me know. It was pretty nice having hot biscuits and cookies at camp, even though the thing is both big and stupid.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/07/15 12:15 PM
I am really interested in this. Now I am 24 long driving hours away but also retired. Having some pacemaker issues but expect to be able by then. I assume this is an over the counter license, correct?
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/07/15 02:26 PM
For me it seemed easier to get binos in and out. Also easier to use from your dash of the truck, and easier to get on and off. The kuiu system you have to have bino's attached to shoulder harness so When your not using you bino's, the bino's act like a buckle system. Bino's being the male buckle, case being female buckle.
If the kuiu system top straps where attached to the case and not just bino's I probably would of got along with it better most likely. None the less kuiu harness is a great harness, and very well built. Just wasn't for me personally.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/07/15 03:13 PM
I am really interested in this. Now I am 24 long driving hours away but also retired. Having some pacemaker issues but expect to be able by then. I assume this is an over the counter license, correct?
Yes they are in an OTC unit/season.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/09/15 02:46 PM
I am really interested in this. Now I am 24 long driving hours away but also retired. Having some pacemaker issues but expect to be able by then. I assume this is an over the counter license, correct?
The nice thing about the area we hunt is the selection of terrain. The better areas will take a decent amount of effort to get to, but anyone that isn't up for that for any reason can stay up top and hunt the mesa which is pretty flat and easy walking.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/09/15 06:52 PM
(now I need to go off and read this entire thread all over again, then go to the online CO parks & wildlife and read all that literature...)
quick question, if we buy an OTC elk tag, does it only apply to a given GMU or can it cover several???
I believe we are looking at GMU 71 but depending on certain weather conditions, it might be advantageous to move higher or lower based on where the herds might have moved too.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/09/15 07:13 PM
An OTC tag is good for any OTC unit.
Where we hunt covers the summer grounds and migratory routes. It holds good numbers of resident elk and migratory. We can't get all the way down to winter grounds, because of some private land, but we can get close. It would take a lot of untimely snow to keep us completely out of the elk. If that happens, we have another area that is much lower within the same unit that they will be passing through. Basically, we have everything covered in that unit, unless they get pushed through much earlier than usual. It could happen, but it's unlikely. In that event, I have some backup plans and units. At any rate, we should have no problem getting into elk, but we have plenty of options if we don't. Last year, we got into them pretty good, most days. Being new to the unit, we didn't get many shot opportunities because of the way we approached it. I did have one shot, but I passed on him. Our odds will be much better this go round, now that we know the area better and how to approach the hunting. It should result in less effort and better opportunities. All I can recommend is to extend your range to your max comfort and know your ballistics, and get in decent shape.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/09/15 07:24 PM
Did yall get a chance to check your zero at elevation? I wasn't sure if that was allowed or not.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/09/15 07:28 PM
On that note, I've recently started hand loading for my elk rifle. I also put a new scope on it to take advantage of the longer range ballistics. I've been working up a load, and when I've done that, I'll check the tracking on my scope, then shoot at different ranges to calibrate my drop chart. If anyone wants to join me with their rifle to extend their range, they're welcome to. Right now, the only place I have to shoot is at my deer lease south of Ozona. If that's too far, I could meet elsewhere if you have a closer place you'd rather go to. We could also meet in Winters and drive down there together. There's a house to stay in, and I've got the equipment needed to get a drop chart set up. I'll probably head down there this weekend, since I'm off. Otherwise, my next trip will depend on work, so who knows.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/09/15 07:33 PM
Did yall get a chance to check your zero at elevation? I wasn't sure if that was allowed or not.
No, but it is allowed. They have guidelines for it on their website.
I just check my ballistics here, and I use a ballistics ap to adjust for altitude and atmospheric conditions.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/09/15 07:46 PM
Sounds good. I was checking my ballistics with my app and scope on my 30-06 and seemed to do pretty well out to 500 yards. 750, not so much.. I was just going off of the factory ammo specs online, so this isn't nearly as accurate as hand loading like you are doing.
I'm really hoping to have my new rifle built and some loads developed by the time this trip rolls around though.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/09/15 07:47 PM
Depending on the load, it could be running out of steam at that distance. What load is it?
What are you having built?
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/09/15 07:54 PM
On my 30-06 I'm just running the factory Remington 165gr core lokt. This particular rifle prefers them over anything else I have tried with the exception of hand loads. I haven't started loading anything myself, but I'm going to get into it later this summer.
I have an extended family member helping me build a 7mm WSM on a Remington 700 action. I already have the donor action and the rest of the parts are on order, but there is still a pretty good lead time before the barrel and stock arrive.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/09/15 08:11 PM
Those Core-lokts won't shoot very flat. They may even be subsonic at 750. I killed my first bull with some .270, 150 grain Core-lokts. They kill great, but the ballistics are lacking.
The 7 WSM is a heck of a round.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/09/15 08:13 PM
I'm planning on going to Ozona to shoot this weekend, if anyone wants to go. I'll leave either Friday morning or Saturday morning, depending on who wants to go.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/09/15 08:16 PM
I'm also taking the FoxPro to do a little varmint hunting at night.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/09/15 08:23 PM
Oh I agree on the flatness. I was having issues with my elevation on my scope vs my strelok ballistics app at 750 yards. I'm zerod at 100. The range I've been going to has a 100, 250, 500, 750, and 1000 yard range. At 250 and 500, my elevations matched perfectly. At 750 though my app was telling me I needed 6.6 mils, but it took 7.4 mils to get on target.
I'm pretty stoked on the 7 wsm. I posted up on here a while back about needing help picking a caliber and had it pretty much narrowed down to a 7-08. After talking to some people who own a 7wsm and some of the animals they had taken with it I couldn't get it out of my mind, so that's what I decided on. But now its just a waiting game for stuff to show up. haha
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/09/15 08:26 PM
Wish I could make it out to ozona, but my next 3-4 weekends are covered up. The army is shipping my brother-in-law over to korea this weekend so we're having a shindig for him leaving. Then anniversary trip with the wife down to soak up some sun, sand and saltwater.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/09/15 08:56 PM
Yeah, you wouldn't want to miss that. I'll go back, and I'll let everyone know when, in case it works out.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/09/15 09:05 PM
Sneaky, I have probably asked this before, but where south of Ozona do you hunt? I have a place off Scott Canyon road off Pandale road that I am helping the LO do some herd management improvement.
and what caliber / round are you working up handloads for your elk gun? My 7mm RM loves Federal Premium 150 & 165 gr Sierra Gameking BTSP but these are getting harder to find except at some of the more specialized gun shops/shooting ranges.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/09/15 09:44 PM
Straight down 163 about 30 miles. I had a place, a few years ago, about 20 miles east of Pandale.
I'm working on my 7 STW. Shooting 155 grain Cutting Edge bullets. I've got them up to 3400 fps, so far, with no pressure signs. I can probably get even more out of it, but I'm happy with that kind of speed. Now I need to work up and down from there, shoot for groups, and find what charge it likes the most. It'll handle more range than I can. I just have to get everything dialed in.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/09/15 11:17 PM
500-750 yards! Yikes, and y'all didn't get shot opportunities last season? Maybe I'd better stay on the porch? I am partial to my Browning lever 30-06 shooting Federal Triple Shock 165 gr. I thought I was doing good to connect on a aoudad at 314 yards.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/09/15 11:50 PM
We had them well within normal shooting ranges, several times. We didn't get shots because we had bumped them. The one I had a shot at was ranged at just over 300. It's just a good idea to be able to shoot as far as you're comfortable with given some of the areas we sit.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/10/15 11:32 AM
500-750 yards! Yikes, and y'all didn't get shot opportunities last season? Maybe I'd better stay on the porch? I am partial to my Browning lever 30-06 shooting Federal Triple Shock 165 gr. I thought I was doing good to connect on a aoudad at 314 yards.
Hopefully you aren't "chasing them" happens when you walk 1000 miles a day sometimes
Longest shot I have made was just over 500, but that is extremely rare for me, average would be around 200 yards. If your sitting in a good spot, many times you can cut the range down to a more manageable shot. I prefer to get in good spot and sit, then let the "hiker hunters" run the elk to me.
I can't count the times I have watched hunters walk through an area, at the same time I see elk watching them, soon as the hunters move on, the elk move. Seen it also when hunters went through, elk I never saw bedded, up and move after the "threat" has passed.
You should be fine with your 06 for a reasonable shot opportunity. sure wouldn't let that stop me from the experience.
BTW, just razing the guys on the "walking" part. I have to do the same thing in new country, only way to figure it out if you have no intell.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/10/15 05:52 PM
500-750 yards! Yikes, and y'all didn't get shot opportunities last season? Maybe I'd better stay on the porch? I am partial to my Browning lever 30-06 shooting Federal Triple Shock 165 gr. I thought I was doing good to connect on a aoudad at 314 yards.
Hopefully you aren't "chasing them" happens when you walk 1000 miles a day sometimes
Longest shot I have made was just over 500, but that is extremely rare for me, average would be around 200 yards. If your sitting in a good spot, many times you can cut the range down to a more manageable shot. I prefer to get in good spot and sit, then let the "hiker hunters" run the elk to me.
I can't count the times I have watched hunters walk through an area, at the same time I see elk watching them, soon as the hunters move on, the elk move. Seen it also when hunters went through, elk I never saw bedded, up and move after the "threat" has passed.
You should be fine with your 06 for a reasonable shot opportunity. sure wouldn't let that stop me from the experience.
BTW, just razing the guys on the "walking" part. I have to do the same thing in new country, only way to figure it out if you have no intell.
Well, we figured it out, at the expense of a few body parts. I think sitting in a good spot all day sounds pretty good, this go round.
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/10/15 06:01 PM
Can I pick your spot?
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/10/15 06:10 PM
Well, we figured it out, at the expense of a few body parts. I think sitting in a good spot all day sounds pretty good, this go round.
I like this idea.. A little glassing. Of course I've napped thru some deer drives!
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/11/15 05:53 PM
You can pick the bowl to the east or west. That's it.
Posted By: huntnfishtx
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/11/15 05:59 PM
Was up in Durango this week camping with the kids. We stayed mostly off of 578 but went up 579 and 580 as well.
When hiking off of 578 where the creek crosses the road, there were elk tracks everywhere....
They've been getting a lot of rain up there recently and the snow melt is still on so the river is still up and looking like chocolate milk. Everything is still very green.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/12/15 06:05 PM
Sounds like a good year. We should probably take advantage of that and kill something this time.
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/12/15 06:12 PM
You can pick the bowl to the east or west. That's it.
You're no fun.
500-750 yards! Yikes, and y'all didn't get shot opportunities last season? Maybe I'd better stay on the porch? I am partial to my Browning lever 30-06 shooting Federal Triple Shock 165 gr. I thought I was doing good to connect on a aoudad at 314 yards.
Hopefully you aren't "chasing them" happens when you walk 1000 miles a day sometimes
Longest shot I have made was just over 500, but that is extremely rare for me, average would be around 200 yards. If your sitting in a good spot, many times you can cut the range down to a more manageable shot. I prefer to get in good spot and sit, then let the "hiker hunters" run the elk to me.
I can't count the times I have watched hunters walk through an area, at the same time I see elk watching them, soon as the hunters move on, the elk move. Seen it also when hunters went through, elk I never saw bedded, up and move after the "threat" has passed.
You should be fine with your 06 for a reasonable shot opportunity. sure wouldn't let that stop me from the experience.
BTW, just razing the guys on the "walking" part. I have to do the same thing in new country, only way to figure it out if you have no intell.
Well, we figured it out, at the expense of a few body parts. I think sitting in a good spot all day sounds pretty good, this go round.
This would be the NP method these days. Good spot, Snickers, water, and let the animals/younger guys do the walking. Don't mind a little grunt to get to the "spot".
I hope you boys have a great hunt. I am staying close to home this year. A big whitetail is tasking me.
Posted By: Sq2 hunter
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/12/15 10:01 PM
Y'all hunting unit 71 again!? Whose all going this year? I've been debating hunting unit 68. Just not sure if I want pack an elk 8 miles out.
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/12/15 11:11 PM
68 has a lot of elk, they have a ton of private though.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/13/15 12:18 AM
68 has a lot of elk, they have a ton of private though.
He just needs the right 1 acre
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/13/15 12:23 AM
I just got back as well from Durango/Delores area and backpacking in the Weminuche wilderness. I have been going to Durango for 10 years now and I have never ever seen it as green and lush as it is now. I saw more Elk out grazing in the meadows than I ever have. This should be a great year for horns and a lot of healthy elk. I am jealous I am not able to go this year. You guys are gonna have a blast.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/14/15 02:20 AM
You can pick the bowl to the east or west. That's it.
You're no fun.
I figured anything you picked would be even less fun.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/14/15 02:21 AM
500-750 yards! Yikes, and y'all didn't get shot opportunities last season? Maybe I'd better stay on the porch? I am partial to my Browning lever 30-06 shooting Federal Triple Shock 165 gr. I thought I was doing good to connect on a aoudad at 314 yards.
Hopefully you aren't "chasing them" happens when you walk 1000 miles a day sometimes
Longest shot I have made was just over 500, but that is extremely rare for me, average would be around 200 yards. If your sitting in a good spot, many times you can cut the range down to a more manageable shot. I prefer to get in good spot and sit, then let the "hiker hunters" run the elk to me.
I can't count the times I have watched hunters walk through an area, at the same time I see elk watching them, soon as the hunters move on, the elk move. Seen it also when hunters went through, elk I never saw bedded, up and move after the "threat" has passed.
You should be fine with your 06 for a reasonable shot opportunity. sure wouldn't let that stop me from the experience.
BTW, just razing the guys on the "walking" part. I have to do the same thing in new country, only way to figure it out if you have no intell.
Well, we figured it out, at the expense of a few body parts. I think sitting in a good spot all day sounds pretty good, this go round.
This would be the NP method these days. Good spot, Snickers, water, and let the animals/younger guys do the walking. Don't mind a little grunt to get to the "spot".
I hope you boys have a great hunt. I am staying close to home this year. A big whitetail is tasking me.
Thanks. You got a big one in particular picked out?
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/14/15 02:23 AM
Y'all hunting unit 71 again!? Whose all going this year? I've been debating hunting unit 68. Just not sure if I want pack an elk 8 miles out.
Yep. Same spot. We spent so much time and pain getting to know it last year, I feel pretty comfortable going back.
I'm sure you're stout enough for such a pack. Doubt you'd enjoy it much, though.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/14/15 02:24 AM
I just got back as well from Durango/Delores area and backpacking in the Weminuche wilderness. I have been going to Durango for 10 years now and I have never ever seen it as green and lush as it is now. I saw more Elk out grazing in the meadows than I ever have. This should be a great year for horns and a lot of healthy elk. I am jealous I am not able to go this year. You guys are gonna have a blast.
It's looking pretty good. It's too bad everyone has other plans. It's as though elk hunting isn't everyone's number one priority. I don't get it.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/14/15 02:30 AM
I finished my load work up for the STW. Ended up at 3350 with the Cutting Edge bullets. Scope tracked well, too. Ended up stretching its legs out to 565, just to see how the ballistic ap kept up. It called for 1.8 mils up. 1.5 put me on target. I didn't have all the altitude and atmospheric conditions set up, so that may be the difference. I'll figure that out.
This was the group that helped me decide on a load. I'll probably never see three shots like that again.
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/14/15 03:07 AM
I just got back as well from Durango/Delores area and backpacking in the Weminuche wilderness. I have been going to Durango for 10 years now and I have never ever seen it as green and lush as it is now. I saw more Elk out grazing in the meadows than I ever have. This should be a great year for horns and a lot of healthy elk. I am jealous I am not able to go this year. You guys are gonna have a blast.
It's looking pretty good. It's too bad everyone has other plans.
It's as though elk hunting isn't everyone's number one priority. I don't get it.
That cuts to the bone compadre.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/14/15 03:15 AM
Well, you gonna chase elk with us, or what?
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/14/15 03:17 AM
Now I know why yall didn't come back with any. Them things are faster than they look.
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/14/15 03:24 AM
Got too many responsibilities to be gone 2&1/2 weeks then home a few days, then load everything including the kitchen sink and go up. Might be a last minute add on if the wife and I need a vacation from each other, which does happen from time to time.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/14/15 11:20 AM
I finished my load work up for the STW. Ended up at 3350 with the Cutting Edge bullets.
This was the group that helped me decide on a load. I'll probably never see three shots like that again.
Dang! That is impressive.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/14/15 11:45 AM
Now I know why yall didn't come back with any. Them things are faster than they look.
Yes sir, learned moons ago it isn't easy putting salt on an elks tail
.
Creekrunner, aren't you going to NM prior to this hunt?
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/14/15 11:47 AM
Good shooting Sneaky, should get the job done for you this year.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/14/15 11:58 AM
Nice shooting Sneaky
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/14/15 12:13 PM
Creekrunner, aren't you going to NM prior to this hunt?
Nah, the group didn't do the draw and NM draw rules are too confusing. I'll be in the UK with the wife prior to this. She has allowed me a couple days of stag stalking in Scotland , maybe even a roe buck.
You add Sneaky's intimidating shooting ability to the mix and I just can't handle the stress.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/14/15 12:26 PM
Creekrunner, aren't you going to NM prior to this hunt?
Nah, the group didn't do the draw and NM draw rules are too confusing. I'll be in the UK with the wife prior to this. She has allowed me a couple days of stag stalking in Scotland , maybe even a roe buck.
You add Sneaky's intimidating shooting ability to the mix and I just can't handle the stress.
Well, he will have to force himself to hunt this go around rather than "hike"
Yeah, I think I would focus on the UK thing too, you can always go to Colorado the next go round.
Creekrunner, aren't you going to NM prior to this hunt?
Nah, the group didn't do the draw and NM draw rules are too confusing. I'll be in the UK with the wife prior to this. She has allowed me a couple days of stag stalking in Scotland , maybe even a roe buck.
You add Sneaky's intimidating shooting ability to the mix and I just can't handle the stress.
Lol.
Hell you can't even call that a "group". It's just a hole.
Posted By: A.B.
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/14/15 01:08 PM
Wait a damn minute. Sneaky is actually still alive?
Posted By: A.B.
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/14/15 01:09 PM
Creekrunner, aren't you going to NM prior to this hunt?
Nah, the group didn't do the draw and NM draw rules are too confusing. I'll be in the UK with the wife prior to this. She has allowed me a couple days of stag stalking in Scotland , maybe even a roe buck.
You add Sneaky's intimidating shooting ability to the mix and I just can't handle the stress.
Lol.
Hell you can't even call that a "group". It's just a hole.
That's a 3 shot group. He stacked em in tight.
Yes I know. I was just trying to pay him a compliment on his shooting. Guess it didn't come through.
Posted By: A.B.
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/14/15 01:21 PM
Oh, I was playing along. I didn't read that actually was a 3 shot group.
Now I feel silly.
Now I do too.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/14/15 02:30 PM
Now I know why yall didn't come back with any. Them things are faster than they look.
I used to mean it when I said that. Now it's just an expression.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/14/15 02:31 PM
Wait a damn minute. Sneaky is actually still alive?
For now. I go back to work this week, so we'll see.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/14/15 02:32 PM
Got too many responsibilities to be gone 2&1/2 weeks then home a few days, then load everything including the kitchen sink and go up. Might be a last minute add on if the wife and I need a vacation from each other, which does happen from time to time.
I understand. Not really, but I'm trying.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/15/15 01:02 AM
Well, you gonna chase elk with us, or what?
Sneaky, I messaged you about this hunt.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/15/15 01:19 AM
Well, you gonna chase elk with us, or what?
Sneaky, I messaged you about this hunt.
I'm sorry about that, Joe. I got sidetracked while looking up the dates and forgot to respond. I wasn't ignoring you on purpose.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/15/15 06:06 PM
Going in to cardiologist Wednesday. Hoping reports continue to be good. I have started to work out but can't do much with weights yet. Have you guys seen a Elevation training mask? Unless the doc shuts me down I'm getting one. I talked with a Navy recruit that had his mask set for 9000 ft as he worked out at the Y. He said he really noticed an improvement.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/15/15 06:37 PM
Good luck with the check up.
I've heard about those masks, but I couldn't tell you anything about them or where to get one.
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/16/15 01:07 AM
I'll preface this by saying I am no expert and have no personal experience with this mask. Any Google search however will lead you to them. Probably the most recognized brand is "TrainingMask". The literature out currently is mainly poorly designed, low populated studies. To make matters worse, the creator was good ole Victor Conte of BALCO. You know, Barry Bonds side kick (whom I still think is a great baseball player, but I digress). There are some newer, more organized studies coming out that show it does have some mild improvements, however this is only in High Intenisty Interval Training (HIIT) workouts and the people with true signs of improvement not only wore it during the workout, they also had it on for 30+ minutes pre-workout and 30-60 mins post workout from what I recall. The idea of how it should work makes since and maybe someone will eventually come up with a design or workout routine that reliably produces results. Until then, the ultimate training aid is simply moving to higher elevation and living/training long term. But hey, if you have a $100 to throw away, why not try it. I'll admit, I have considered it at times.
You'll either look super cool cruising in the car to work, your wife may dig it.... well, to help keep the kids quiet, or ............ you might be mistaken for a robber if running late at night. What could go wrong.
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/16/15 01:13 AM
your wife may dig it.... well, for after hour extracurriculars, or ............
I'm shocked. SHOCKED I tell you!
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/16/15 01:24 AM
lol, I went too far didn't I. My apologies.
Posted By: Shawheel
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/16/15 02:32 AM
Ringworm, you deleted the paintball reply! Had me rolling!
Posted By: Shawheel
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/16/15 02:33 AM
As far as the face mask thing, just run, hike, do squats. Whatever keeps you motivated. You'll be fine. No need for fancy gadgets.
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/16/15 02:44 AM
Ringworm, you deleted the paintball reply! Had me rolling!
Ha, after putting Creekrunners mind in the gutter, the paintball scenario just made it worse after I read it. Best not to keep digging my own whole any deeper.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/16/15 01:27 PM
As far as the face mask thing, just run, hike, do squats. Whatever keeps you motivated. You'll be fine. No need for fancy gadgets.
Think so too.
If the Doc gives you the go ahead, work on leg muscles and getting O2 to them. The hunt can be as hard, or easy as you make it, so you do have some control over exertion. You may have to leave early from camp to take your sweet time to your spot, but then you can sit till dark.
Nice thing about going with a group is the "help factor" most of the time, the young fellas enjoy a good workout cutting up a bull, plus there are enough hands to bury you proper if needed
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/16/15 10:53 PM
Nice thing about going with a group is the "help factor" most of the time, the young fellas enjoy a good workout cutting up a bull, plus there are enough hands to bury you proper if needed
I have started working out and will begin with weights soon. I'd prefer to maybe just be propped up overlooking a nice view!
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/16/15 10:58 PM
The very nice group that camped next to us last year had previously brought a friend's ashes back to those mountains and spread them. They'd been hunting there over 15 years. They were interesting, from all over (New York, Alabama, Texas), black and white, united by elk hunting. Part of their group used to come from Oklahoma, but one of the okies got cancer and the rest wouldn't come hunting without him. 'Thought that was cool.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/16/15 11:02 PM
Nice thing about going with a group is the "help factor" most of the time, the young fellas enjoy a good workout cutting up a bull, plus there are enough hands to bury you proper if needed
I have started working out and will begin with weights soon. I'd prefer to maybe just be propped up overlooking a nice view!
We can arrange that, if necessary. Shouldn't be, though.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/16/15 11:03 PM
The very nice group that camped next to us last year had previously brought a friend's ashes back to those mountains and spread them. They'd been hunting there over 15 years. They were interesting, from all over (New York, Alabama, Texas), black and white, united by elk hunting. Part of their group used to come from Oklahoma, but one of the okies got cancer and the rest wouldn't come hunting without him. 'Thought that was cool.
Yes, it was. I liked those guys. Hopefully we can get set up in the same spot next to them.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/16/15 11:54 PM
So Sneaky when do you plan to be in the area?
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/17/15 01:24 AM
The very nice group that camped next to us last year had previously brought a friend's ashes back to those mountains and spread them. They'd been hunting there over 15 years. They were interesting, from all over (New York, Alabama, Texas), black and white, united by elk hunting. Part of their group used to come from Oklahoma, but one of the okies got cancer and the rest wouldn't come hunting without him. 'Thought that was cool.
Agree 100%. When I got back from hunting and after all of our party had departed they came over and offered me to join their camp, warm up by the fire and eat dinner with them. I was totally blown away. CR had a little to do with them checking up on me which was also much appreciated. Super nice guys in their camp as well as in ours, without question. They also mentioned all but two people in their party (I think the total number was 8 or 10, correct me if I am wrong) had all shot an elk on that trip. He said one of the two that hadn't yet passed on one because he wanted something bigger. And this was Wed night w/ 3 more days of hunting left. So, the elk are there and we know have done the scouting to find where there are hiding from last years trip. Should be better odds this year and years to come.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/17/15 03:19 AM
So Sneaky when do you plan to be in the area?
It would be nice to show up the evening of the 15th, but with the season being longer, I'll probably get there the evening before season opener. That way I can maximize my time during the season. Ten or eleven days is already a lot to take off from work, and I really want to be there for the whole thing. That will improve our odds a lot. I'll have a better idea when we get closer to going, but that's probably what it will be.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/17/15 03:54 AM
Cheif Joe, since you're retired, you could get there a month early and just about have the "lodge" built when everyone arrives
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/17/15 06:38 PM
Chief Joe, since you're retired, you could get there a month early and just about have the "lodge" built when everyone arrives
I like the way you think! I do plan to take two plus days to drive from Ohio... I will leave on the 13th... if my plans remain stable..
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/17/15 07:46 PM
Chief Joe, since you're retired, you could get there a month early and just about have the "lodge" built when everyone arrives
I like the way you think! I do plan to take two plus days to drive from Ohio... I will leave on the 13th... if my plans remain stable..
That is a good idea. Most retirees I have met there, get there some up to 7 days early, to fish, hike, recon and relax. I like that as well since after opening day you get more drawn down each day. (if your hard core hunting)
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/17/15 08:12 PM
How can I get a map of that area? I'd like to know I'm in the right location..
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/17/15 08:27 PM
So Sneaky when do you plan to be in the area?
It would be nice to show up the evening of the 15th, but with the season being longer, I'll probably get there the evening before season opener. That way I can maximize my time during the season. Ten or eleven days is already a lot to take off from work, and I really want to be there for the whole thing. That will improve our odds a lot. I'll have a better idea when we get closer to going, but that's probably what it will be.
this season starts on Oct. 17 and runs thru when? (being lazy on looking up) ...
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/17/15 09:24 PM
this season starts on Oct. 17 and runs thru when? (being lazy on looking up) ...
25th
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/17/15 09:30 PM
I understand what you working men have to go through and don't blame you for wanting to maximize your hunting. However, from my limited experience of the camping last year, everyone coming in the night before the season starts has the potential of being a cluster. As I mentioned to Chief Joe, for a while that site I was saving last year felt like trying to save an entire church pew for my always late kids on Christmas Eve. If you all have a decent turn out, there aren't that many sites big enough. I'm sure Sneaky will come up with a plan.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/17/15 10:55 PM
How can I get a map of that area? I'd like to know I'm in the right location..
CJ, go here and either call, or order online. You will likely need the
Dove Creek map and possibly the
Silverton maps. Maybe one of the guys can look to see if the area they where in, is all on one map.
http://www.blm.gov/co/st/en/BLM_Resources/public_room/map_info.htmlhttp://www.blm.gov/co/st/en/BLM_Resources/public_room.html
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/17/15 11:26 PM
http://www.mytopo.com/products/hunt-area-unit.cfm?state=CO&species=DEL&gmu=71You can also find specialized maps with species specific migration routes and concentration areas.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/18/15 02:50 AM
I understand what you working men have to go through and don't blame you for wanting to maximize your hunting. However, from my limited experience of the camping last year, everyone coming in the night before the season starts has the potential of being a cluster. As I mentioned to Chief Joe, for a while that site I was saving last year felt like trying to save an entire church pew for my always late kids on Christmas Eve. If you all have a decent turn out, there aren't that many sites big enough. I'm sure Sneaky will come up with a plan.
I may just go up a day early. I always thought that would be ideal. I need to just do it.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/18/15 02:52 AM
The Dove Creek map covers it pretty well.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/18/15 02:57 AM
That map centers the unit a little better and shows the highway coming in to it better. I think that's the same as a couple that I have, and they're good.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/19/15 10:52 AM
Sent for that map last evening! Got a stress test Monday that should help define my workout plan.. Only about 16 weeks to train and prepare..
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/19/15 03:14 PM
If you work out at all, you'll be better off than a lot of guys up there. You don't have to be an athlete to hunt there. You just have to pace yourself, accordingly.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/19/15 04:21 PM
If you work out at all, you'll be better off than a lot of guys up there. You don't have to be an athlete to hunt there. You just have to pace yourself, accordingly.
Mostly needing to do this for "other" reasons but hoping it might give me an edge on the elk!
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/19/15 06:12 PM
Every bit helps.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/21/15 10:55 PM
So what do you guys think of a military ALICE pack with a frame? Would it work for this type of trip?
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/22/15 12:26 AM
I'm sure it would, although I don't have enough experience with them to say if it's ideal or not. Most people get packs made for hunting. I don't know if that's because their better for it or just what people do. Main thing will be comfort. I'm sure it will haul whatever you need just fine, since the military does it, but I have no idea how comfortable they are. I guess a lot will depend on what you're willing to spend, as well.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/22/15 03:55 PM
I've been looking into packs as well. Do yall typically carry a small pack for the day while out hunting and then switch to a larger pack if you put something on the ground? I know if I go out and get a large pack, i'll fill the dang thing up with crap I don't need for hunting and i'll get tired of it real quick lol. I've got a backpack I take to the stand with me now, but it is just that...a backpack and I can carry all of the small stuff I would need for the hunt, just no meat hauling.
On the larger packs for hauling meat, I've noticed there's quite a few different shapes and sizes. Is there a good general size for one? I see some that are 2100 cu. inch and others that are larger, closer to 3100 cu. inches.
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/22/15 03:58 PM
2100 is around the size of a good day pack.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/22/15 04:00 PM
So yall just go back to camp or the truck to pick up the larger pack to haul the meat out with?
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/22/15 04:03 PM
thinking of packs ... is the pack basically for carrying out meat once something hits the ground? Do you haul an empty pack around with you while hunting in hopes of having something to pack out? or do you leave the pack at camp and go get it once something is shot?
Have you checked on any outfitters or leasing horses/mules in that area for retrieval of game? I have used a place to rent horses north of Bayfield (15+/- miles east of Durango) up close to lake Valecito before and I would suspect there are similar around Cortez, Dolores or Mancos...
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/22/15 04:04 PM
Smart move is to carry meat back in a trash bag to not mess up your day pack, then grab the bigger one. No reason to make a wasted trip.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/22/15 04:07 PM
Makes perfect sense. So you want a day pack big enough to carry at least something out, then go get your biggin and haul the rest out.
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/22/15 04:11 PM
Big one that weight rides better in. Smaller one needs to have minimal gear, water, scabbard and room to tote out backstraps so you can bribe the other camp dwellers into coming to help.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/22/15 04:12 PM
I have a medium,but light day pack, one that also holds 2 20oz water bottles on the outside. That is all I have ever used. I will either start hauling qtrs if I kill in the am. If I kill in the evening, then I will gut, and open the cavity and return in the am if overnight temps are cool. Imperative to raise the bull off the ground if possible to help cooling, ask most any processor up there and they can tell you what side an elk laid on overnight.
I used a "pack" one time in 30 years to help a friend after a bow kill, it was just an old army "duffle" bag dealy I had for years. I usually go by myself, so I just get after it and try to get the meat to camp, I don't spend much time trying to de-bone in the field. I put all in game bags kept in my daypack, then start leapfrogging the qtrs out. If I can locate a horse, I will go that route if it is far in and an option.
I can recall several kills where I stsyed and at least qter'ed the animal and hung it in a tree (warmer day's), Get back to camp around 12-1am, great times
(Sorry for the long irrelevant response, a bit bored today)
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/22/15 04:18 PM
without going back thru 18 pages of info ... rough estimation of how far out of Dolores will camp be? guessing up 145 a ways then off onto a forest road?
as of now, looks like I have a kitchen pass
edit: ah ha ... Taylor mesa area
Posted By: Sq2 hunter
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/22/15 08:28 PM
Use your day back to get the back straps back then grab the frame pack and bone the meat for the frame. It's good to quarter and hang the meat right before you depart for the frame
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/23/15 03:00 AM
You can get a day pack and a frame, or a pack that doubles as a day pack and a freighter.
When you get a bull down, you want to get him quartered and get them hanging in the shade to cool. Then you can haul out all the meat that isn't a quarter. At camp, you can get your frame, if you've gone that route, and go back. If you're using the same pack, you can just go back. Maybe with less gear, to lighten the load, and hopefully some help.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/23/15 03:02 AM
without going back thru 18 pages of info ... rough estimation of how far out of Dolores will camp be? guessing up 145 a ways then off onto a forest road?
as of now, looks like I have a kitchen pass
edit: ah ha ... Taylor mesa area
30 minutes. Maybe 45. It's not far, but the FS road is a little slow going.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/23/15 03:04 AM
thinking of packs ... is the pack basically for carrying out meat once something hits the ground? Do you haul an empty pack around with you while hunting in hopes of having something to pack out? or do you leave the pack at camp and go get it once something is shot?
Have you checked on any outfitters or leasing horses/mules in that area for retrieval of game? I have used a place to rent horses north of Bayfield (15+/- miles east of Durango) up close to lake Valecito before and I would suspect there are similar around Cortez, Dolores or Mancos...
I've never checked, but they're up there. I just haul the stupid things out on my back. I haven't got a great deal of sense, though. A smarter person would probably look into it and budget for the minor expense.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/23/15 02:04 PM
thinking of packs ... is the pack basically for carrying out meat once something hits the ground? Do you haul an empty pack around with you while hunting in hopes of having something to pack out? or do you leave the pack at camp and go get it once something is shot?
Have you checked on any outfitters or leasing horses/mules in that area for retrieval of game? I have used a place to rent horses north of Bayfield (15+/- miles east of Durango) up close to lake Valecito before and I would suspect there are similar around Cortez, Dolores or Mancos...
I've never checked, but they're up there. I just haul the stupid things out on my back. I haven't got a great deal of sense, though. A smarter person would probably look into it and budget for the minor expense.
Don't sell yourself short Sneaky geeez, if you don't kill nuth'n, you aint got to pack nuth'n. I'd say you have a lot of sense.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/23/15 02:58 PM
^^ I guess that's one question to ask yourself...just HOW BAD do you want to shoot that bull?
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/23/15 03:32 PM
Makes perfect sense. So you want a day pack big enough to carry at least something out, then go get your biggin and haul the rest out.
That gets expensive.
Two options-
Cheap option elberstock f1 with a simple duffle. $180
Middle option a lot more comfortable with load then elberstock
Exo mountain pack, kuiu
Top end options mystery ranch and kafuri
All these options are modular. Meaning once you have the frame you have endless options on pack sizes. They are also dual use packs meaning they have load selves to haul meat out also.
I'm a fan of the EXO 3500. I also have an elberstock x2.
For a true day pack with meat option that's very comfortable and sub $400 look at the kuiu pro 1850
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/23/15 04:06 PM
Good to know BOBO, thanks!
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/23/15 04:28 PM
I've actually kind of been eyeballing the Eberlestock x-1 and the gunrunner. Any experience with either of these? It would seem that having your gun right up against your back would be the most comfortable while hiking.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/23/15 04:31 PM
This is my EXO frame with just a beavertail. I pretty much ran it last year with out the bag. I just stuck all my stuff(rain gear, kill kit etc), in a duffle I made.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/23/15 04:35 PM
Did you just sling your gun/carry it?
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/23/15 04:39 PM
I've actually kind of been eyeballing the Eberlestock x-1 and the gunrunner. Any experience with either of these? It would seem that having your gun right up against your back would be the most comfortable while hiking.
Great pack, but doesn't have true pack out ability. You can get aluminum stays in it but you get more then 40 pounds it's not comfortable.
Goldstein ran one and switched to the X2.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/23/15 04:40 PM
Did you just sling your gun/carry it?
I'm a bow guy with elk. But if I'm hunting I don't want my rifle or bow attached to my pack unless I'm literally climbing a mountain.
That's just me though.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/23/15 04:44 PM
If you want a scabbard look at the kifaru rambler and elberle stock f1 or even team elk pack
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/23/15 04:45 PM
I missed the x2 while looking and looks to be a nice contender. Even though its slightly smaller, it's still better than the x1 for packing out? I realize there's only so many "specs" you can read on different products before its time to just test them out or get real world experience.
Edit: nevermind. I went to the actual Eberlestocks website and saw it vs. cabelas single picture....looks like a lot of extra pockets/straps that aren't shown on cabelas site.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/23/15 10:53 PM
I missed the x2 while looking and looks to be a nice contender. Even though its slightly smaller, it's still better than the x1 for packing out? I realize there's only so many "specs" you can read on different products before its time to just test them out or get real world experience.
Edit: nevermind. I went to the actual Eberlestocks website and saw it vs. cabelas single picture....looks like a lot of extra pockets/straps that aren't shown on cabelas site.
Yes. It's built with hauling more weight in mind. Little things like internal frames and compression straps make a big difference in hauling a sizable load. I believe it was the X2 that Jerrod brought last year, and it's a very nice pack. I wouldn't mind having one myself, but I'm satisfied with my Dragonfly.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/24/15 12:49 AM
The more I read the confusered I get!
So would I be on the right track to purchase a Eberlestock FI mainframe to use with my existing day pack?
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/24/15 01:18 AM
The more I read the confusered I get!
So would I be on the right track to purchase a Eberlestock FI mainframe to use with my existing day pack?
The whole purpose of the f1 is to provide a modular system. Could use it just as a meat hauler(just frame) or add a pack or duffle to it as a dual use and add rifle scabbard. The biggest difference in packs cost wise is weight and modular ability. For example you can buy a kuiu pack and have 5 different bag size options.
Most the packs I listed are frames and you can add different size bags to them.
If you are strictly using a pack as a day pack meaning hunting from truck the pack size about 1800-3500 cubic inches is what you need.
For 3-5 days worth of gear 3500-5500 cubic inches
For 5 plus 7000 plus cubic inches.
One thing I can tell you is packs get heavy. Especially if your a pack rat.
For day trips my whole pack including water is usually 10-15lbs (4lb pack itself and 9 to 11pounds of stuff).
If you guys are hunting from a truck based camp. Try not to over pack the pack.
Now if your just looking for a heavy hauler for meat
http://www.cabelas.com/product/Cabelas-Alaskan-Outfitter-Frame-and-Harness-Only
Posted By: Sq2 hunter
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/24/15 01:22 AM
I have an Eberlestock day pack and i love it. thinking about buying a Kuiu ultra 6000 for packing in this year. Any of yall use the ultra yet!? I wanted to use the ultra with all my gear and wear it the entire trip so I can hunt new areas and not have to walk all the way to camp at night and back to my hunting area in the morning. Buuut I know after a day of hiking with all that gear I'll be thinking twice about that method.. lol
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/24/15 01:24 AM
I missed the x2 while looking and looks to be a nice contender. Even though its slightly smaller, it's still better than the x1 for packing out? I realize there's only so many "specs" you can read on different products before its time to just test them out or get real world experience.
Edit: nevermind. I went to the actual Eberlestocks website and saw it vs. cabelas single picture....looks like a lot of extra pockets/straps that aren't shown on cabelas site.
Yes. It's built with hauling more weight in mind. Little things like internal frames and compression straps make a big difference in hauling a sizable load. I believe it was the X2 that Jerrod brought last year, and it's a very nice pack. I wouldn't mind having one myself, but I'm satisfied with my Dragonfly.
Your dragonfly is a lot more comfortable with weight(50lbs plus) then the x2.
Most I've hauled is around 70lbs with my x2. It was little rough but I got it done. It's kind of what it's made for. Daypack with the ability to get first load out.
EXO I've carried 90lbs with and it was fine, kills my legs but not my shoulders. With that said x2 is a little stud for the price and I'll never get rid of it.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/24/15 01:27 AM
I have an Eberlestock day pack and i love it. thinking about buying a Kuiu ultra 6000 for packing in this year. Any of yall use the ultra yet!? I wanted to use the ultra with all my gear and wear it the entire trip so I can hunt new areas and not have to walk all the way to camp at night and back to my hunting area in the morning. Buuut I know after a day of hiking with all that gear I'll be thinking twice about that method.. lol
I almost did but went with the EXO instead. Carbon frame scares me, but the new frame design is getting great reviews. From what I've read is the pro is much more comfortable and durable for only a few more ounces.
I really wish EXO would come out with a 1850 sized bag like kuiu has though.
Posted By: Sq2 hunter
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/24/15 01:29 AM
the X2 has been my favorite day pack and the outer part of the pack works great for hauling capes, quarters, heads, and warm clothing..
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/24/15 01:39 AM
Nice, here is my x2
Posted By: Sq2 hunter
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/24/15 02:31 AM
Nice!! They are awesome packs!!! P.s I'm jealous of your Kuiu getup!!
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/24/15 03:01 AM
Nice!! They are awesome packs!!! P.s I'm jealous of your Kuiu getup!!
Offseason deals. Just keep an eye out for sales and clearance you can get it 20-30% off. Just can't be in a hurry.
First lite is just as good and they give a military/police discount also
Posted By: huntnfishtx
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/24/15 04:26 AM
I have an Eberlestock J107
http://www.eberlestock.com/J107%20Dragonfly.htmI bought the Super Spike Duffle to go with it so my pack (4900ci) + duffle (3500ci) = 8400ci of capacity
That's can get heavy quick
A few weeks ago my family did a back-country hike/camp so I loaded my pack up. My kids and wife had their own packs with change of clothes, sleeping bag, sleeping pad, snacks and water.
In my pack, I was able to fit literally everything else for my entire family in my pack. It was super comfortable and it rode well at just over 54lbs.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/24/15 03:38 PM
Did you just sling your gun/carry it?
My pack has a rifle scabbard, and the only time I've used it for my rifle was while packing my bull out. It's a nice place to put it, but it's not handy if you need to get to it quick. While hunting, I sling or carry it. I do use the scabbard a lot for other things, like bugle tubes or rain gear that I want to keep handy, but rarely for my rifle.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/24/15 04:41 PM
I didn't think you were allowed to use bugle calls during rifle season??? has that changed?
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/24/15 05:04 PM
I didn't think you were allowed to use bugle calls during rifle season??? has that changed?
I am not aware of any rules regarding that, but I've never done it, either. I only carry my bugle tube during bow season.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/24/15 05:19 PM
I was thinking the same thing. I saw that somewhere on colorados website that they cant be used. Although it would be cool to use one. I've watched some very impressive bugeling videos on youtube and those big bulls will about break their necks once they hear one.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/24/15 05:37 PM
During the rut they will, if used properly. We won't see much of that in October.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/24/15 05:40 PM
hmmm ...
page 16 section 8. CALLS
a. mechanical calls are legal, including mouth calls
b. electronic calls, such as amplified audio players or smartphone apps, are prohibited for big-game hunting
http://cpw.state.co.us/Documents/RulesRegs/Brochure/BigGame/biggame.pdf guess bugle tube is allowed ... that has definately changed since I hunted up there (~1992) as bugling during rifle season was a HUGE no no.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/24/15 05:51 PM
I can't find anything other than that, either. I did find some info on guys doing it and even outfitters doing it. That doesn't necessarily make it legal, but it tends to make me think it is. At any rate, I don't bother with it that late in the year.
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/24/15 05:55 PM
Sound off...something might answer you to at least pinpoint where a small herd is. They're vocal animals and will bugle year-round like a bull out in the pasture.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/24/15 06:30 PM
yep, if allowed, I would definitely give it a try every so often. Never know what might sneak up on you.
The first time we went up was for the late combined season (late Oct. 1979) I borrowed a bugle tube from a guy I worked with and when we got there a day early, I started sounding off at the little cabin we were staying in. I was getting responses back off the mountain behind/above where I was. The guy that owned the cabins came out and asked what the heck I was doing??? He said you better leave that in the cabin tomorrow while out in the woods, as it is highly illegal to bugle after archery/black powder season. I looked it up in the printed regulations (before internet) and that was sure enough how the rules read.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/24/15 07:56 PM
Sound off...something might answer you to at least pinpoint where a small herd is. They're vocal animals and will bugle year-round like a bull out in the pasture.
That's true. There's dozens of vocalizations that they use on a daily basis. People that know them well can talk to them, year round. I've studied up on it some, but I'm not confident enough in the finer points to mess with it outside the rut.
Anyone interested in it should go to Elknut's website to learn more. That guy has it figured out as well as anyone, and he shares his knowledge both for free and for a small fee.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/24/15 07:57 PM
yep, if allowed, I would definitely give it a try every so often. Never know what might sneak up on you.
The first time we went up was for the late combined season (late Oct. 1979) I borrowed a bugle tube from a guy I worked with and when we got there a day early, I started sounding off at the little cabin we were staying in. I was getting responses back off the mountain behind/above where I was. The guy that owned the cabins came out and asked what the heck I was doing??? He said you better leave that in the cabin tomorrow while out in the woods, as it is highly illegal to bugle after archery/black powder season. I looked it up in the printed regulations (before internet) and that was sure enough how the rules read.
That's interesting. I never knew that. I would assume it was for safety reasons.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/24/15 08:18 PM
yep, safety reasons I suspect too ... We used to stop in this little local diner in Bayfield for a bite to eat between morning & evening hunts. We were sitting there and another group of 3-4 hunters came in. We asked them if they had seen anything when one of the smart alecks spouted off, "nope, didn't see anything ... but I got a couple of good "sound" shots off" ...
My father in law asked "what's a sound shot?" ... the guy said "well, I heard something in the brush, thought it might be a mulie or elk, so I fired a couple rounds off in the direction I heard it coming from."
My FIL said "oh, just exactly where do ya'll hunt? ... cause we sure as h3ll don't want to be anywhere near ya'll!!!" ... the guy got ticked off, got up and left without even ordering.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/24/15 08:35 PM
I've seen those types up there. I was even shot at once. The nasty terrain isn't so bad. It helps stay away from those types.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/25/15 01:28 AM
My stress test came back great! I'm progressing with a decent gym workout to build up stamina and will soon be cut free to do more weights and back on my bicycle.. Pacemaker is three weeks old!
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/25/15 01:34 AM
Great news CJ
BTW, it is remote, do you have a solar charger for that pacemaker
You will be GTG in a few months when it is time.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/25/15 02:26 AM
My stress test came back great! I'm progressing with a decent gym workout to build up stamina and will soon be cut free to do more weights and back on my bicycle.. Pacemaker is three weeks old!
Excellent news, Joe. Keep on keepin' on.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/25/15 02:06 PM
Good deal Joe
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/25/15 02:19 PM
My stress test came back great! I'm progressing with a decent gym workout to build up stamina and will soon be cut free to do more weights and back on my bicycle.. Pacemaker is three weeks old!
You'll be outdoing Sneaky.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/25/15 03:26 PM
Surely, he has loftier goals than that.
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/25/15 03:32 PM
I was trying to give you some credit. I'll take it back if you'd like me to.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/25/15 03:58 PM
Well, in that case, thank you.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/25/15 10:46 PM
I'm just hoping to keep up and, at least pointed in the right direction!
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/25/15 11:27 PM
I'm just hoping to keep up and, at least pointed in the right direction!
I could barely keep up (some would say I didn't) with the young'uns hunting, and the evening libations with those oilfield boys? Fuhgettaboutit. I'm sure your doc hasn't released you to put your liver through a "stress test".
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/26/15 12:16 AM
Pointed in the right direction is easy enough. Keeping up won't be bad, either. There's not so much exploring to be done, nor a desire to, this time.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/26/15 12:18 AM
I'm just hoping to keep up and, at least pointed in the right direction!
I could barely keep up (some would say I didn't) with the young'uns hunting, and the evening libations with those oilfield boys? Fuhgettaboutit. I'm sure your doc hasn't released you to put your liver through a "stress test".
You did just fine.....for an old timer.
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/26/15 12:18 AM
'Thought I'd get a better rise out of you than that. Hope I didn't offend.
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/26/15 12:19 AM
Oh. I see. That's more like it.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/26/15 11:29 AM
I'll prolly lay off the libations. I get way to phyllisophical when I imbibe. And I'm out of practice!
Of course this doesn't count after the work is done!
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/26/15 11:55 AM
I'll prolly lay off the libations. I get way to phyllisophical when I imbibe. And I'm out of practice!
Of course this doesn't count after the work is done!
Joe, the young fellas would probably benefit from your libated wisdom
I drink very rarely anymore, but a drink or 3 sure helps a fella sleep after a day in the mountains. It is just great to have decent camping weather when you are there, great time of year to be there when you can sit around a fire with friends.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/29/15 02:04 PM
Joe, you will be able to keep up with me ... I learned a long time ago to not over do it in the mountains, I'll be taking my sweet time about getting places on foot. I have busted out way too many canyons for my dad and father in law trying to get the game to them, but that's been about 20+ years ago.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/30/15 11:18 PM
Joe, you will be able to keep up with me ...
PMK I want to be capable of reaching any area that Sneaky thinks might present the best shot opportunities. Also being able to breath might help my aim!
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 06/30/15 11:29 PM
Joe, you will be able to keep up with me ...
PMK I want to be capable of reaching
any area that Sneaky thinks might present the best shot opportunities. Also being able to breath might help my aim!
I saw one area from afar that Sneaky thought might present the best shot opportunities...right before I said "I think I should head back now."
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/01/15 12:45 AM
I saw one area from afar that Sneaky thought might present the best shot opportunities...right before I said "I think I should head back now."
That's the spot I want!
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/01/15 05:08 AM
The spot is all yours, Joe. I've got plenty to go around.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/01/15 05:08 AM
Joe, you will be able to keep up with me ...
PMK I want to be capable of reaching
any area that Sneaky thinks might present the best shot opportunities. Also being able to breath might help my aim!
I saw one area from afar that Sneaky thought might present the best shot opportunities...right before I said "I think I should head back now."
It was just starting to get good.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/01/15 11:25 AM
The spot is all yours, Joe. I've got plenty to go around.
Posted By: 1860.colt
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/01/15 12:59 PM
Best Wish on up coming hunting trip... Stay safe...
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/01/15 08:49 PM
Joe, you will be able to keep up with me ...
PMK I want to be capable of reaching any area that Sneaky thinks might present the best shot opportunities. Also being able to breath might help my aim!
yep, me too ... but it might not be at his pace.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/01/15 11:09 PM
yep, me too ... but it might not be at his pace.
The doc cut me loose for purt near anything. She said I can't bench press or lift above my head but anything else is fair game!!
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/04/15 12:57 AM
Perfect.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/10/15 01:59 AM
Not getting married this year so am interested again
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/10/15 02:53 AM
I'm not getting married this year, either. Let's go chase some elk.
Posted By: huntnfishtx
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/10/15 06:06 AM
Looks like my partner from work and I are going to be hunting the Hermosa River basin next door to y'all over in Unit 74. My scouting trip back in June will hopefully pay off.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/10/15 10:03 AM
Good deal. Keep us updated.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/10/15 11:08 AM
I am married this year and she seems glad to see me go...
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/10/15 09:39 PM
I am married this year and she seems glad to see me go...
This reminds me, there was a guy last year that was going to go on the hunt, but had to back out. On another thread he posted that his
8th wife had walked out. I was really looking forward to meeting that guy. Now I can't remember his name. Who was that guy that took optimism to a stratospheric level? Say what you like, I bet we could have learned a thing or two from that guy, even if it was what not to do.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/10/15 09:51 PM
I am married this year and she seems glad to see me go...
Say what you like, I bet we could have learned a thing or two from that guy, even if it was what not to do.
It wasn't me but I have considered writing a book entitled "I Know How To Do It Wrong?...
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/11/15 11:54 PM
Hey guys, I have not been on here in a while, but I am definetely still interested in going. Offshore schedule is a bit random right now, but will be putting in for time off for this trip. My freezer is nearly out of deer meat, so I need to fill up!
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/12/15 12:12 AM
I am married this year and she seems glad to see me go...
This reminds me, there was a guy last year that was going to go on the hunt, but had to back out. On another thread he posted that his
8th wife had walked out. I was really looking forward to meeting that guy. Now I can't remember his name. Who was that guy that took optimism to a stratospheric level? Say what you like, I bet we could have learned a thing or two from that guy, even if it was what not to do.
This is my first and hopefully only marriage....
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/12/15 10:38 PM
twas not I, Tuesday marks 37 years married to the same woman, only one that would put up with me (and I likely am the only one to put up with her) ... she seems glad I am going with my son (ZK315) on this hunt, he can carry out my elk
and I can coach him on carrying out his ...
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/12/15 11:00 PM
we are trying to figure out sleeping arrangements ... do you guys sleep in tents (with bears & mountain lions), have travel trailers, enclosed trailers, camper shells on your trucks, etc.??? maybe rent a cabin, lodge, motel/hotel ... just curious ...
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/12/15 11:05 PM
Hey guys, I have not been on here in a while, but I am definetely still interested in going. Offshore schedule is a bit random right now, but will be putting in for time off for this trip. My freezer is nearly out of deer meat, so I need to fill up!
Put your time in and join us, then. There's a little bit of meat on those elk.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/12/15 11:09 PM
we are trying to figure out sleeping arrangements ... do you guys sleep in tents (with bears & mountain lions), have travel trailers, enclosed trailers, camper shells on your trucks, etc.??? maybe rent a cabin, lodge, motel/hotel ... just curious ...
It's whatever you want. Most guys set up tents. Some do campers, but it would probably need to be a small one to make it to this camp. I sleep in the cab of my truck.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/12/15 11:32 PM
great, makes things easier on us (and pocket book) ... but still looking for a small enclosed trailer or similar for sleeping in ... found cabins for $50 a night for up to 4 not too far, community bathrooms & showers. Not sure I can go 10 days in the woods any more, at least not covering ground... count us in though, we are going!!!
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/13/15 01:09 AM
Good deal.
An enclosed trailer or similar would be nice. Some day I'll probably get a small camper.
There's also places in town to take a shower, if need be.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/13/15 01:15 AM
I planned on tent camping it...
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/15/15 11:14 AM
My son is considering going along. Will help break up the drive from Ohio. I just got home from taking grandson to Nebraska to join a harvesting outfit.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/15/15 04:19 PM
I may be interested in ride shareing. But we can talk more about that when the time gets closer
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/15/15 04:54 PM
My son is considering going along. Will help break up the drive from Ohio. I just got home from taking grandson to Nebraska to join a harvesting outfit.
It's a long drive. He'd have fun, anyway.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/15/15 04:56 PM
I may be interested in ride shareing. But we can talk more about that when the time gets closer
That's the way to do it, if you can. We'll find out where everyone is coming from and see who can meet up with whom.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/16/15 12:45 AM
I'm thinking I will get a cap for my truck rather than drag a trailer out there. May bring a tent to give more room if Mark does come..
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/16/15 01:03 PM
I'm thinking I will get a cap for my truck rather than drag a trailer out there. May bring a tent to give more room if Mark does come..
I have stayed in a tent more times than I can remember, as long as you have some heat and ventilation, you would be fine. I would opt for tent any day over using a truck topper though, more room and easier after a long day on the stand, plus the added room is great for storing gear. Get a 12'x12' awning from walmart and you have a covered cooking area, works well if you don't get 2' of snow.
I believe Sneaky's crew had a communal cooking area last year??
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/16/15 02:40 PM
We did. Creekrunner provided most of that. I'll have an awning, this year. Maybe two.
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/16/15 02:48 PM
Tables. Don't forget tables.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/16/15 02:55 PM
I picked up a used pop-up cab over camper last night, loaded on flatbed trailer that we will tow up. we will have two of the 10x10 (or might be 12x12) awnings and will likely wrap a side or three with a tarp as a wind break. several tables & chairs.
I don't guess you have any pictures of the camp area?
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/16/15 02:57 PM
I picked up a used pop-up cab over camper last night, loaded on flatbed trailer that we will tow up. we will have two of the 10x10 (or might be 12x12) awnings and will likely wrap a side or three with a tarp as a wind break. several tables & chairs.
I don't guess you have any pictures of the camp area?
Uhhh, let's just say your rig and equipment will be quite a step up.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/16/15 02:59 PM
Tables. Don't forget tables.
Oh yeah, thank you.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/16/15 03:01 PM
I picked up a used pop-up cab over camper last night, loaded on flatbed trailer that we will tow up. we will have two of the 10x10 (or might be 12x12) awnings and will likely wrap a side or three with a tarp as a wind break. several tables & chairs.
I don't guess you have any pictures of the camp area?
I'll look, but I don't think so. Got a picture of a nifty sign someone made for camp.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/16/15 03:02 PM
I picked up a used pop-up cab over camper last night, loaded on flatbed trailer that we will tow up. we will have two of the 10x10 (or might be 12x12) awnings and will likely wrap a side or three with a tarp as a wind break. several tables & chairs.
I don't guess you have any pictures of the camp area?
Uhhh, let's just say your rig and equipment will be quite a step up.
I was quite pleased with our arrangements. It wasn't a disaster, which is what I'm used to, so I thought it was nice.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/16/15 03:14 PM
I picked up a used pop-up cab over camper last night, loaded on flatbed trailer that we will tow up. we will have two of the 10x10 (or might be 12x12) awnings and will likely wrap a side or three with a tarp as a wind break. several tables & chairs.
I don't guess you have any pictures of the camp area?
If you have the room and you're going to bring the awnings, tarps, and tables, then I won't bring mine. It'll save me some room that I need. In exchange, I'll cover any evening meals for y'all.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/16/15 04:02 PM
I picked up a used pop-up cab over camper last night, loaded on flatbed trailer that we will tow up. we will have two of the 10x10 (or might be 12x12) awnings and will likely wrap a side or three with a tarp as a wind break. several tables & chairs.
I don't guess you have any pictures of the camp area?
You should be sitting like a King then. I know someone that went last year posted photos, could have been in the last post of the other thread Sneaky started last year??
Looked to be plenty of room once you get up the road to camp from what I remember.
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/16/15 04:16 PM
I was quite pleased with our arrangements. It wasn't a disaster, which is what I'm used to, so I thought it was nice.
No, it wasn't a disaster at all.
There was plenty of room at that site, almost too much. Lots of late comers looked at it covetously.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/16/15 04:39 PM
There we go. Makes me want to be there right now.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/16/15 06:36 PM
There we go. Makes me want to be there right now.
Yes sir, 2-1/2 months for me brudda. Would be nice now just for the temp difference and dry air.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/16/15 07:50 PM
Yep. I was in that area a couple weeks ago, and I couldn't get over the weather. Just perfect. We went up around timberline. I had a snowball fight on the 4th of July. Don't recall having done that before.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/16/15 09:13 PM
I picked up a used pop-up cab over camper last night, loaded on flatbed trailer that we will tow up. we will have two of the 10x10 (or might be 12x12) awnings and will likely wrap a side or three with a tarp as a wind break. several tables & chairs.
I don't guess you have any pictures of the camp area?
If you have the room and you're going to bring the awnings, tarps, and tables, then I won't bring mine. It'll save me some room that I need. In exchange, I'll cover any evening meals for y'all.
what if we don't like your cooking?
...
... just kidding. Yep, that might work or might have a little room to haul some additional stuff for others.
ZK315 (son) lives in Temple and me in Georgetown, I work in Austin and he frequently goes to Fairfield thru Waco ... if someone wanted or needed us to put some additional stuff on the trailer, we might could arrange hooking up somewhere along the IH35 corridor.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/16/15 09:59 PM
I am going to watch REI for one of there bigger tents. Sometimes they go on clearance for cheap.
Almost bought a 12 person tent last year for like 125...6
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/16/15 10:21 PM
You guys are making me nervous. I thought getting a camper or trailer in there was hard to do?
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/16/15 10:31 PM
I picked up a used pop-up cab over camper last night, loaded on flatbed trailer that we will tow up. we will have two of the 10x10 (or might be 12x12) awnings and will likely wrap a side or three with a tarp as a wind break. several tables & chairs.
I don't guess you have any pictures of the camp area?
If you have the room and you're going to bring the awnings, tarps, and tables, then I won't bring mine. It'll save me some room that I need. In exchange, I'll cover any evening meals for y'all.
what if we don't like your cooking?
...
... just kidding. Yep, that might work or might have a little room to haul some additional stuff for others.
ZK315 (son) lives in Temple and me in Georgetown, I work in Austin and he frequently goes to Fairfield thru Waco ... if someone wanted or needed us to put some additional stuff on the trailer, we might could arrange hooking up somewhere along the IH35 corridor.
You probably wouldn't, which is why I won't be cooking it. My wife is a fine cook, and she will prepare the meals ahead of time and package them so that I can heat them up at camp. Saves a lot of time, effort, and hunger.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/16/15 10:35 PM
You guys are making me nervous. I thought getting a camper or trailer in there was hard to do?
It shouldn't be. Heavy snows might hinder that, but it would be unseasonable. I wouldn't take a large trailer in there, but anything smaller should be fine. We saw some small to medium sized campers up there last year.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/16/15 10:37 PM
I am going to watch REI for one of there bigger tents. Sometimes they go on clearance for cheap.
Almost bought a 12 person tent last year for like 125...6
Not a bad idea. If I were going to do a tent, it would be a large one.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/16/15 10:38 PM
Sneaky, this tower is part of the new park near my home. I posted some photos from the top. It just opened on 7/4. I'm thinking the 236 steps will provide some additional workout for me...
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/16/15 10:52 PM
I have a small table I could bring along with the 2 pop-up awnings PMK was talking about. I know I'll be down in Houston at least once before the trip, so if anyone down that way needs anything hauled, let me know.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/16/15 11:13 PM
Sneaky, this tower is part of the new park near my home. I posted some photos from the top. It just opened on 7/4. I'm thinking the 236 steps will provide some additional workout for me...
Dang. You know, steps are perfect for this kind of hunt conditioning, but that's a little high for my taste.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/16/15 11:15 PM
I have a small table I could bring along with the 2 pop-up awnings PMK was talking about. I know I'll be down in Houston at least once before the trip, so if anyone down that way needs anything hauled, let me know.
Sounds good. If we have a couple of tables, that would be plenty.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/17/15 12:11 AM
this is merely a 16 foot flat bed with a pop-up top cabover camper strapped down to it ... should go pretty much anywhere the truck can go.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/17/15 12:37 AM
I picked up a used pop-up cab over camper last night, loaded on flatbed trailer that we will tow up. we will have two of the 10x10 (or might be 12x12) awnings and will likely wrap a side or three with a tarp as a wind break. several tables & chairs.
I don't guess you have any pictures of the camp area?
If you have the room and you're going to bring the awnings, tarps, and tables, then I won't bring mine. It'll save me some room that I need. In exchange, I'll cover any evening meals for y'all.
what if we don't like your cooking?
...
... just kidding. Yep, that might work or might have a little room to haul some additional stuff for others.
ZK315 (son) lives in Temple and me in Georgetown, I work in Austin and he frequently goes to Fairfield thru Waco ... if someone wanted or needed us to put some additional stuff on the trailer, we might could arrange hooking up somewhere along the IH35 corridor.
You probably wouldn't, which is why I won't be cooking it. My wife is a fine cook, and she will prepare the meals ahead of time and package them so that I can heat them up at camp. Saves a lot of time, effort, and hunger.
well, I am one heck of a camp cook (if not too worn out from walking at altitude) ... so don't plan on bringing every meal, as that's part of my fun with camping. We'll coordinate once we get closer to the go date for planning purposes.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/17/15 02:09 AM
We can always use a good camp cook. I won't get in your way.
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/17/15 02:31 AM
One thing there wasn't a lack of last year was excellent food. And don't let sneaky kid you, he is a fine cook as was everyone else. The highlight of a long day for sure.
Check Sierra Trading Post, Campmor, and Backcountry as well for deals on tents. Amazon even isn't a bad resource also.
Chief, I promise you if you did those stairs once or twice a week with a weighted pack on your back, you will have zero issues on this trip with the exception of adjusting to the high altitude which there is no escaping. Sounds like you are on the right track my friend.
I am headed up there in a few weeks. I was there a month ago and it was as green as ever. I can only imagine it's still very lush and and the elk herd this year should be very healthy. This will be the last time Disney World gets in the way of my hunting trips. I'll be back for sure next year.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/17/15 04:56 AM
No doubt the rain has been good for them. I just hope it doesn't have them so scattered that we have a hard time finding them. I've had that happen before. Makes for a tough hunt.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/17/15 11:12 AM
No doubt the rain has been good for them. I just hope it doesn't have them so scattered that we have a hard time finding them. I've had that happen before. Makes for a tough hunt.
Seen that happen many times, but if mother nature does you good, they will move the same trails they know, you just need cool enough weather to get them moving. You could end up overrun if all the cards fall in line.
I will know for sure by the time you fellas pull out, I am basically "just over the hill" and should have a handle on it by the end of my draw season. Of course you know, one good front and everything can change. I will sure pass along what I'm seeing if I still have your cell # if you like.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/17/15 01:23 PM
Yeah, that would be great. I take all the help I can get.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/17/15 05:19 PM
I went to Erb's outdoor store today to look at an X2 backpack. Marty sold me on an upgrade to the Team Elk model. Only $40 more if you consider the rifle scabbard to the X2.
Here is a very nice 6x6 he arrowed in 2012 on a self guided hunt to Colorado with three others. And a couple European mounts from previous years.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/17/15 05:20 PM
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/17/15 06:00 PM
Team elk pack is a good pack.
Think it well serve you well for many years
Posted By: A.B.
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/18/15 02:26 AM
Yep, weather can turn on a dime. Fall of 92 we sweated our tails off dragging my elk out and the next afternoon damn near froze getting my buddies out. I wasn't prepared for the warm weather to start with and surely not for the frigid weather we ended it on.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/18/15 03:22 AM
You'll like that pack, Joe.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/20/15 02:36 PM
Any idea on when a good time for a meet and greet would be? Maybe sometime during mid-late August or even September?
I'll get with the boss lady this evening to figure out our free weekends and report back. Sneaky said Cleaburn was a fairly central location for most. Which way is everyone coming from? PMK and I are in the central Texas area (Georgetown and Temple) and Cleaburn is only a couple hours north.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/20/15 02:58 PM
That might work. It's hard for me to say when I'll be off. I'm not on a schedule right now, and I'm working as much as I can while there's work left.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/20/15 02:59 PM
If y'all can come up with a date, I can see about taking off.
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/20/15 03:12 PM
Depending on when and where, I might come and at least raise a glass with you guys.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/20/15 04:31 PM
Hopefully that works out.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/20/15 11:39 PM
Did it three times today, twice in a row and once before quitting for the day! Only a little over 12 weeks to go!
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/21/15 01:20 AM
You. Are. Killin' it.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/21/15 02:43 AM
That's going to help a lot.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/23/15 01:19 PM
Wish there was a tower like that close to me Chief, but the closer to the ground I am, the better I'm off
Finally got a chance to slow down a little and look at the calendar. The only two weekends we have plans currently are the weekends of August 1st and September 12th. So any other weekend I'm free.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/23/15 02:30 PM
so ... Sneaky, Chief Joe (and maybe his son), ZK-315 and PMK (me) ... who else is pretty sure they are going?
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/23/15 04:05 PM
so ... Sneaky, Chief Joe (and maybe his son), ZK-315 and PMK (me) ... who else is pretty sure they are going?
Sure seemed there where several other fellas said they where going? Y'all had more then that last iirc? 4-5 would sure make it easier on the guide (Sneaky) I can tell you that is enough fellas to get everything done.
I will be on the other side of the mountain the season before you guys, so hopefully I will be able to pass on some intel on what I see and hear. I don't hunt with outfitters and guides, but know a few, along with several land owners I speak with when I am up there.
Posted By: Jerrod Carroll
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/23/15 04:21 PM
I don't know if I'll make it again this year or not. I'll know a little closer to october
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/23/15 04:30 PM
western, where will you be hunting? years ago, I hunted all around the southern parts from east of Pagosa Springs to Mancos and north up to about Silverton.
A friend from Silverton told me of an almost sure fire bet years ago for an decent elk opening morning SW from Silverton if the normal large herd (200-500) is down in the valley below. There is usually a large outfitter base camp at the bottom that has spotted where the herd has settled in, that has 30-50 hunters on foot and horseback at daylight that walk/ride up the valley and they send another group of 10-20 hunters on horseback around to the top. The ones on the bottom sounds like WW3 just broke loose at first light, the herd scatters up the valley and on up to the saddle by mid morning, literally hundreds of elk pouring thru the saddle about 1/2 mile wide in groups of 4 to 40. Only problem is its 5-7 mile hike all up hill along the CO trail to get to the closest point of that saddle. 3-4 hours from the trail head, in the dark. and then also packing it back out is a challenge too. Maybe if I were younger, I'd do it again.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/23/15 08:28 PM
PMK, I am quite literally almost "just over the hill" from y'alls camp, about 60-75 miles by road though. I hunt close to Lone Cone Mountain.
A lot of valleys like the one you mentioned, when those elk start the migration, they will sure move, many trails I have seen are worn deep from years of it. I know some places similar, very tough to get too, bad enough you may as well take a frying pan and eat the elk where it went down
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/23/15 08:48 PM
I don't know if I'll make it again this year or not. I'll know a little closer to october
This is not an option. It isn't the same hunt without you. Get your @#$%^&* priorities straight.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/23/15 08:52 PM
I don't know if I'll make it again this year or not. I'll know a little closer to october
This is not an option. It isn't the same hunt without you. Get your @#$%^&* priorities straight.
That mean you're going too CR?
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/23/15 09:09 PM
I don't know if I'll make it again this year or not. I'll know a little closer to october
This is not an option. It isn't the same hunt without you. Get your @#$%^&* priorities straight.
Yeah, I really hope he can make it happen. Wouldn't be the same.
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/23/15 09:38 PM
I don't know if I'll make it again this year or not. I'll know a little closer to october
This is not an option. It isn't the same hunt without you. Get your @#$%^&* priorities straight.
That mean you're going too CR?
I doubt it, but you never know what the cat might drag in at the last minute.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/23/15 09:50 PM
Just make it happen.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/23/15 11:38 PM
I don't know if I'll make it again this year or not. I'll know a little closer to october
This is not an option. It isn't the same hunt without you. Get your @#$%^&* priorities straight.
That mean you're going too CR?
I doubt it, but you never know what the cat might drag in at the last minute.
Sounds like you need to "Get your @#$%^&* priorities straight."
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/24/15 01:54 PM
Made it three times up the stairs. 714 steps! Now to do that with a 60# backpack.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/24/15 05:10 PM
60#
!!!! You will want 30#-40#, that includes good amount of bottled waters. I did the heavy pack thing the 1st couple of times, doesn't take long to have a heart to heart with the pack and load.
Took an ex marine once, his pack was over 100# easy, ended up leaving lord knows what in the hills. I seem to find things others "shred" off, several chairs and stools, and other misc stuff.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/24/15 05:39 PM
Amateurs....
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/24/15 05:40 PM
Made it three times up the stairs. 714 steps! Now to do that with a 60# backpack.
Just have to tote yourself...Sneaky will carry everything else. Teamwork.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/24/15 06:10 PM
There must be a well-named pack horse joining us that I wasn't aware of.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/24/15 06:34 PM
Made it three times up the stairs. 714 steps! Now to do that with a 60# backpack.
Just have to tote yourself...Sneaky will carry everything else. Teamwork.
That inst a joke either, you should see the list if "stuff/crap" he hauls, the only thing left at camp when he leaves, is his truck
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/24/15 07:04 PM
I'd take that, too, if they'd let me.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/24/15 07:10 PM
I'd take that, too, if they'd let me.
You got that right! Be like hunting East Texas!!
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/24/15 08:01 PM
Close. We stick to daylight hours, at least.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/24/15 09:02 PM
The 60# included a quarter of elk!
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/24/15 10:04 PM
Close. We stick to daylight hours, at least.
Yes Suh, most do anyway
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/24/15 10:06 PM
The 60# included a quarter of elk!
Much better
That would be the B-straps and trimmings, Sneaky will tote the 4 leg quarters
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/24/15 11:31 PM
Y'all keep it up. These boys will be highly disappointed.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/25/15 12:20 AM
Made it three times up the stairs. 714 steps! Now to do that with a 60# backpack.
Just have to tote yourself...Sneaky will carry everything else. Teamwork.
Good to know
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/25/15 12:20 AM
Y'all keep it up. These boys will be highly disappointed.
Shoot, with all the working out you have been doing since starting that 'workout" thread, you should look like hulk hogan by now......1qtr under each arm and 2 thrown over the shoulders, no big deal....
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/25/15 12:44 AM
I've been on a cut. I'm getting smaller, not bigger. 4 quarters.... That hurts just thinking about it.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/25/15 01:08 AM
Yes sir, after a few hundred yards, you can sure feel it with just one front.
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/25/15 02:36 AM
Motivation....
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/25/15 01:01 PM
Great googley moogley....
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/25/15 01:20 PM
Great googley moogley....
Nah, to old and tough to eat, pass on that nasty thing
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/25/15 01:30 PM
You donate the meat off that one.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/25/15 02:41 PM
You donate the meat off that one.
No, would just let it go to die an old age patriarch
Why would you give away food unfit to eat
Damn Rifleman, you must just be a antler hunter
SHM
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/25/15 03:51 PM
Umm...yeah. Meat hunting is why cow & spike tags exist. BUT, with my feelings towards elk on the deer units, I'm 100% okay with people getting elk "hair" tags...and a bunch of them.
Bull my FIL shot on that unit got donated. 18+yo bull.
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/25/15 05:21 PM
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/25/15 06:03 PM
Great googley moogley....
Nah, to old and tough to eat, pass on that nasty thing
I think I could chew on that for a year. First legal bull, right?
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/25/15 06:28 PM
Yes, if the first legal bull scores 402......shoot it.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/25/15 08:17 PM
Yes, if the first legal bull scores 402......shoot it.
With Sneaky's luck, the 2nd bull he'd see after shooting a little 402, would be a 675
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/25/15 08:28 PM
Probably so.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/25/15 10:51 PM
Yes, if the first legal bull scores 402......shoot it.
With Sneaky's luck, the 2nd bull he'd see after shooting a little 402, would be a 675
Yep. I shot a 250 and saw a 350 while packing it out. I also missed out on a chance at a barely legal bull before shooting the one I did.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/25/15 11:43 PM
If it was an easy, sure bet, everyone would do it. I'd take a 250 all day on PL most of the time.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/26/15 03:10 AM
What is a legal bull out there?
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/26/15 03:16 AM
Bull must have 4 points on one side, or a brow tine at least 5"
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/26/15 03:22 AM
The 5" brow makes a lot of bulls legal.
Posted By: bp3
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/26/15 03:27 AM
That sucker is big enough to burn diesel.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/26/15 03:50 AM
The 5" brow makes a lot of bulls legal.
Yes sir, darn near every bull that has a split! I wish they'd stick with just the 4 point rule
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/26/15 04:23 AM
1 of 4 we moved off the mountain one night was one that just met that requirement. 3x2 yearling. It ate well.
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/26/15 03:07 PM
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/26/15 03:41 PM
There is a photo section Rifleman if you just want to throw up pics with no commentary
Maybe a MOD can move it for ya
BTW, I could likely sit under the limb of that closes spruce and sleep like a chillen
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/26/15 03:59 PM
It's one hundred freaking degrees....doesn't need any commentary.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/26/15 04:12 PM
Hah! Sure looks good to me.
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/26/15 04:19 PM
I went for a run earlier and though I appreciate the additional sweat to make it see like you're actually doing something, I'd rather it be long sleeve weather.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/26/15 08:24 PM
I'm always ready for summer to go as soon as it comes.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/26/15 09:27 PM
I took a nap
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/27/15 10:38 PM
For some odd reason, I was thinking about old Elk hunts today, actually had a tinge of excitement
I have noticed over the years that I don't get like I did when I was young(er). Used to drive me crazy all year until I headed North. Last 20 years or so, I have felt like "blah" until the last week or so IMO, wife say's different, but I don't see it. Trying to nap for work tonight, all I could think about was sitting by the lake fishing, relived several of the hunts, could almost smell the mountains, feel the cold and hear the fire, just weird, but it put me to sleep
Sure miss living there.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/27/15 10:58 PM
That photo looks darn good. It was 90 here today. I continue to break up concrete and did the spiral steps three times this afternoon. Sure am looking forward to this. I hope to have cardioversion should happen in the next couple weeks.
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/27/15 11:05 PM
That photo looks darn good. It was 90 here today. I continue to break up concrete and did the spiral steps three times this afternoon. Sure am looking forward to this. I hope to have cardioversion should happen in the next couple weeks.
1. You're running the risk of taking this hunt waay too seriously.
2. What in the hell is cardioversion? 'Sounds like something involving your nether regions.
3. 90 degrees is a cool front down here this time of year.
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/27/15 11:11 PM
For some odd reason, I was thinking about old Elk hunts today, actually had a tinge of excitement
I have noticed over the years that I don't get like I did when I was young(er). Used to drive me crazy all year until I headed North. Last 20 years or so, I have felt like "blah" until the last week or so IMO, wife say's different, but I don't see it. Trying to nap for work tonight, all I could think about was sitting by the lake fishing, relived several of the hunts, could almost smell the mountains, feel the cold and hear the fire, just weird, but it put me to sleep
Sure miss living there.
Yes, I can smell the cinnamon rolls and pop tarts heating up on the truck dash.
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/27/15 11:12 PM
Wouldn't let goldy be the cook...don't like mine well done.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/27/15 11:23 PM
For some odd reason, I was thinking about old Elk hunts today, actually had a tinge of excitement
I have noticed over the years that I don't get like I did when I was young(er). Used to drive me crazy all year until I headed North. Last 20 years or so, I have felt like "blah" until the last week or so IMO, wife say's different, but I don't see it. Trying to nap for work tonight, all I could think about was sitting by the lake fishing, relived several of the hunts, could almost smell the mountains, feel the cold and hear the fire, just weird, but it put me to sleep
Sure miss living there.
Yes, I can smell the cinnamon rolls and pop tarts heating up on the truck dash.
For me it is a fresh cup of joe, as I look at the mountains, did the same thing when we lived there everyday. a couple photos since I am feeling nostalgic LOL
Just a photo I took driving from a buddies house one afternoon
Bull I shot 10 days after breaking my leg in 3 places, wife sitting on the bull . It was 16* that am when we left camp and got up to upper 70's!
Driving into Uoray CO. wonderful little town, used to drive through masny times a year. Stopped for memories sake.
Took my nephew golfing outside Durango CO. His 1st time in the Rockies, he is hooked now.
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/27/15 11:29 PM
In my truck, a cup of joe is fine...in one of my FIL's vehicles I'd have to ride in the back to drink it. Kind of why I drink red bull.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/27/15 11:37 PM
In my truck, a cup of joe is fine...in one of my FIL's vehicles I'd have to ride in the back to drink it. Kind of why I drink red bull.
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/27/15 11:41 PM
I don't get to enjoy coffee in the mountains......I get redbull & red diamond sweet tea as hydration to look at the big hills....I the cold.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/28/15 12:33 AM
1. You're running the risk of taking this hunt waay too seriously.
2. What in the hell is cardioversion? 'Sounds like something involving your nether regions.
3. 90 degrees is a cool front down here this time of year.
1. Not a serious bone in my body!
2. Cardioversion hopefully will shock my ticker back into rythem. No more Afib.
3. I've been thru Texas summers. Mix in 70-90 humidity and you have Ohio 90's
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/28/15 02:08 PM
Finally picked up some boots over the weekend. After trying on a few different boots, everything that people have been saying about those Danner Pronghorns are true. I put those on and man do they fit nicely! So, that's what I walked out the door with. Break-in to commence very soon.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/28/15 05:13 PM
Those things are supposed to be comfortable, but they apparently don't hold up to serious elk hunting for long. Just a trade off, I suppose. I had a pair of upland hunting boots that were incredibly comfortable and quiet. I loved chasing elk in those things. Sure enough, they were good for about two seasons. So, I would only use them for your really serious hunts to get the most out of them.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/28/15 05:30 PM
My danners have lasted for a while. I use them for deer and dove seasons so not as hard as mountains
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/28/15 05:34 PM
Do you have the Pronghorns? I hear great things, in general, about Danners. There's just a few serious elk hunters I know that said they didn't last long, though they were nice while they did.
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/28/15 05:40 PM
They've had QC problems since outsourcing to China. Same thing with the Cabela's guide series that Danner used to make going overseas.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/28/15 05:54 PM
They've had QC problems since outsourcing to China. Same thing with the Cabela's guide series that Danner used to make going overseas.
This effects a lot of high priced brands as well, I wont pay top dollar for a "name", when I can buy the near same quality for 1/2. Somehow I have survived hunting the mountains for a long time with good workable gear, most not the high dollar brand names.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/28/15 06:26 PM
They've had QC problems since outsourcing to China. Same thing with the Cabela's guide series that Danner used to make going overseas.
Their whole line isn't made over seas. FYI.
They actually own the China factories for say also
With that said its hard to beat Italian and US made
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/28/15 06:37 PM
I just wanted to try a few different boots on to see how the fit and finish were on each. Tried some cabela's boots, Under armor boots and a couple of others, but the Pronghorns, to me at least, fit the best straight out of the box. I did try them on with both my regular socks and some medium weight wool socks and they fit like a glove. Hopefully they stand up to the task at hand though. What's getting torn up on them?
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/28/15 06:59 PM
I have narrow feet, so every pair of shoes and boots has been a dadgum crusade all my life and it seems to be getting harder. Danner only makes the police duty type boot in a narrow and I've had a pair of those, lined, for years. Clunky, but functional.
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/28/15 06:59 PM
Soles coming apart and stitching.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/28/15 07:09 PM
I got duck tape for that rifleman.
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/28/15 07:17 PM
Lol...my last pair of guide series looked like a grey air boot by the time I retired them.
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/28/15 07:18 PM
Snow seal them before you go up there.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/28/15 07:20 PM
For those that went last year, what was the weather like around that time of year? I know it will vary, but any chances of snow that early on?
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/28/15 07:24 PM
Hot last year to the Ease..but been in snow in 07, 10, 11 & 12 up there during 2nd (or split before 3rd).
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/28/15 07:25 PM
Snow seal them before you go up there.
Xs 2
The first thing to wear out on my shoes are the side seams, leather, or whatever, doesnt matter if it has a sewn line on the outside. Rocks will rub the crap out of the side of a shoe.
I have 2 pair of Sorels that look and function like new though, they are over 15 years old, deal is, they are so heavy, I hardly ever use them. Great "stand" boot though.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/28/15 07:29 PM
For those that went last year, what was the weather like around that time of year? I know it will vary, but any chances of snow that early on?
Last year was a tad warmer than normal for me, I was about 50 miles from the fellas. But I have bow hunted in falling snow in September before, so. Typically though, you can expect am temps in the teens and daytime highs in the 35-50's. Elevation has a lot to do with it as well, the mountains can be real temperamental.
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/28/15 07:31 PM
My dad used Sno Seal religiously. They say smell is one of the strongest memories. I actually look forward to using it at the beginning of hunting season 'cause it reminds me of hunting with him.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/28/15 07:34 PM
I'm getting excited just thinking about the much cooler weather
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/28/15 07:36 PM
My dad used Sno Seal religiously. They say smell is one of the strongest memories. I actually look forward to using it at the beginning of hunting season 'cause it reminds me of hunting with him.
CR, one of the best reasons for going I have heard on here, we hunt our future, to remember the past my friend
I'm getting excited just thinking about the much cooler weather
Brudda, you have no idea, can't get here fast enough for that reason alone.
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/28/15 07:56 PM
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/28/15 08:14 PM
This was just put in the classifieds:
Backpack I think it's the same kind I have. Not handy as a day pack, but pretty good for hauling out quarters. (I think; 'can't speak from experience...yet.) Not a high-dollar high-tech pack, but for $50.00 I think it'll work.
I may not be able to make it, but I'll at least be thinking positive thoughts about several bulls down.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/28/15 08:23 PM
Rifleman, some great photos
Living there and going all I can, still cant get over how purdy it is, year round too.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/28/15 11:50 PM
Didn't someone post that Wood n' Stream were the ticket?
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/28/15 11:57 PM
Never tried them. Will say Kenetrek are nice though.
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/29/15 12:27 AM
Boots are a personal thing. Some just may never fit right and that makes them worse than useless in the mountains regardless of price attached to them and quality. Kenetreks and Meindl fit me perfect with midweight socks.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/29/15 01:19 AM
For those that went last year, what was the weather like around that time of year? I know it will vary, but any chances of snow that early on?
It was quite warm. Much warmer than usual. It can be warm or freezing. You never know, but be prepared for either.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/29/15 01:21 AM
Never heard of Wood n Stream. I have Kenetreks. I've only used them on last year's hunt, but I was very pleased with them.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/29/15 01:24 AM
I just wanted to try a few different boots on to see how the fit and finish were on each. Tried some cabela's boots, Under armor boots and a couple of others, but the Pronghorns, to me at least, fit the best straight out of the box. I did try them on with both my regular socks and some medium weight wool socks and they fit like a glove. Hopefully they stand up to the task at hand though. What's getting torn up on them?
As long as they're comfortable, that's the main thing.
I think the soles were the main thing coming apart.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/29/15 01:25 AM
While y'all are shopping, make sure you have a blaze orange vest and cap. I believe they need to be solid orange, too, and not the camo orange.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/29/15 01:27 AM
Boots are a personal thing. Some just may never fit right and that makes them worse than useless in the mountains regardless of price attached to them and quality. Kenetreks and Meindl fit me perfect with midweight socks.
I have a really wide foot so Zamberlan's fit me good.
I picked up a lighter weight Salewa rapace's and they are a good run and gun boot but not built for more then 30lbs on the back at most. Don't not have enough miles on them to say us or na yet. So far Zamberlan has my heart though but then again I probably have 300 miles on them.
I'm might grab the kenetrek everstep next year though
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/29/15 01:28 AM
Good thinking. My dad said he thinks we are good on the orange. If not they are cheap and can be found a lot of places. I think we are pretty much covered, except waiting on my gun to get finished.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/29/15 01:31 AM
This was just put in the classifieds:
Backpack I think it's the same kind I have. Not handy as a day pack, but pretty good for hauling out quarters. (I think; 'can't speak from experience...yet.) Not a high-dollar high-tech pack, but for $50.00 I think it'll work.
I may not be able to make it, but I'll at least be thinking positive thoughts about several bulls down.
That's a hell of a deal!!
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/30/15 01:36 AM
Anything we need to do to prepare for this? I may be in Denver in the next few weeks for work.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/30/15 03:06 AM
Just make sure you have all your gear, for now. Tags are available, now, so you can order one if you want, or pick one up while you're in Denver. I'll order one so that I don't have to do it when I get there.
http://cpw.state.co.us/buyapply/pages/hunting.aspxY'all might want to pick up some Altitude Advantage from Wilderness Athlete, as well. I believe it helps.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/30/15 04:24 AM
Thanks
If I knew what I was doing I would be inclined to hang out over the weekend and go scout the area out
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/30/15 04:43 AM
They'll be on different patterns right now, anyway. The elk will be there. We just have to get a shot.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/30/15 10:49 AM
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 07/30/15 01:22 PM
Thanks
If I knew what I was doing I would be inclined to hang out over the weekend and go scout the area out
The one thing you can do is scout for migratory trails, they have been used for eons, or at least in the same vicinity. I have seen some over 2' deep ruts. Many times you can find antler drops they loose as they migrate back to elevation as well.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/01/15 10:53 PM
Got our daughter trying to figure out my Emap gizmo! Ordering my binocular harness too.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/02/15 03:10 AM
Emap? Is that a GPS or something?
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/02/15 07:55 PM
Emap? Is that a GPS or something?
Yes sir. A simple starting point and back hand held Garmin
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/02/15 08:11 PM
Emap? Is that a GPS or something?
Yes sir. A simple starting point and back hand held Garmin
Simpler the better IMO
Unless your doing recon for an airstrike, that should do you just fine Joe.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/03/15 04:27 AM
Good thing I bought the fancier unit, because I have an air strike planned for back up, this year. A couple F-35's with 30 mm cannons should get it done.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/03/15 06:52 AM
Or at least they may shorten your walk
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/03/15 10:50 AM
Good thing I bought the fancier unit, because I have an air strike planned for back up, this year. A couple F-35's with 30 mm cannons should get it done.
Remind me to stick close to you!
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/03/15 02:29 PM
Good thing I bought the fancier unit, because I have an air strike planned for back up, this year. A couple F-35's with 30 mm cannons should get it done.
Remind me to stick close to you!
Joe, better wear "sneakers" then
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/03/15 09:00 PM
Joe, better wear "sneakers" then
Katie said I can't get kelt by friendly fire! Today I got up to 314# in the leg press at the Y today. If I can't stay with Sneaky maybe I can run the other way!
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/03/15 09:29 PM
Joe, better wear "sneakers" then
Katie said I can't get kelt by friendly fire! Today I got up to 314# in the leg press at the Y today. If I can't stay with Sneaky maybe I can run the other way!
No Sir, find a good spot and sit, sooner or later Sneaky will make the "loop"
and you will see him, no worse for the wear
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/03/15 11:15 PM
Yeah, I get around. Just watch for the orange. It's no fun being shot at, up there.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/04/15 02:13 PM
So I am thinking about using some of the toy fund for something for this trip. Right now I am thinking a new bag, maybe a mystery ranch. Any other ideas?
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/04/15 02:59 PM
No help on the pack here. I'm borrowing an army pack from my brother in law that's pretty comfortable and big.
I thought I saw someone talking about a good sling for your gun a while back, but cant seem to find the thread or post about it. Yall recommend a good sling?
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/04/15 03:01 PM
So I am thinking about using some of the toy fund for something for this trip. Right now I am thinking a new bag, maybe a mystery ranch. Any other ideas?
Exo Mountain pack
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/04/15 03:41 PM
A good pack is hard to beat. There's plenty to choose from these days. I am only experienced with a couple of Eberlestock models and can recommend them, but there's several companies that do just as well or better. If Bobo says the Exo is good, I would check it out.
Get a Vero Vellini sling. If there's a better sling out there, for the money, I don't know what it is. They're all I buy, anymore. The neoprene keeps the thing where it belongs and stretches to cushion the impact of walking.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/04/15 04:15 PM
So I am thinking about using some of the toy fund for something for this trip. Right now I am thinking a new bag, maybe a mystery ranch. Any other ideas?
Exo Mountain pack
Why that one? Do you have one?
A good pack is hard to beat. There's plenty to choose from these days. I am only experienced with a couple of Eberlestock models and can recommend them, but there's several companies that do just as well or better. If Bobo says the Exo is good, I would check it out.
Get a Vero Vellini sling. If there's a better sling out there, for the money, I don't know what it is. They're all I buy, anymore. The neoprene keeps the thing where it belongs and stretches to cushion the impact of walking.
I like eberlstock bags. My issue is the weight. There bags tend to weigh a lot more than others
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/04/15 04:17 PM
Yeah, you can go a lot lighter with some other packs.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/04/15 06:08 PM
boots ... good boots! I still need to find me some, but finding 13EEEE might be a challenge. I have seen that both Cabela's and Bass Pro carry wider widths. That's about the only big item still remaining for me ... oh, and a new scope but have one picked out but that's not just a CO item.
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/05/15 03:38 AM
Well it's 10:30 tx time and I just finished roasting some smores for the kiddos. 48 degrees, clear skies at 9,800ft, why do I live in TX? We are just outside of Telluride. Have seen elk every single day. Bulls, believe it or not are already bugling. Haven't gone a day yet where they haven't been making music. I am a bit surprised this early but what do I know. Had a bear 50 yds from the cabin chasing the cows. Mule deer galore. Least I can say is I sure wish I was going hunting with you guys this year. Fields are lush. Still getting a lot of rain up here. Things are looking good for you guys.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/05/15 07:02 AM
Sounds wonderful. Can't wait to get back up there.
There's always next year.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/05/15 04:18 PM
I am debating between the exo 3500 or mystery ranch long bow
Both look to have merits. I wish they had distributors so I could see one in person
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/05/15 05:00 PM
Tough call. They both look top notch.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/05/15 05:28 PM
I am leaning slighty towards the mytery ranch, as it smaller. As I undetstand, we can drive the trucks to the camp sight and our only packing what we need for the day. Right?
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/05/15 05:31 PM
I am debating between the exo 3500 or mystery ranch long bow
Both look to have merits. I wish they had distributors so I could see one in person
I run the 3500. MR is a also a very good pack.
Exo last year won over a lot of people just via price point. They have gone up on pricing which you can't blame them after selling out 18 months worth of production in three months. So playing field evened up some.
There are a lot of good packs out. You can go wrong with EXO, kifarui, Stone Glacier, remedy 7, kuiu and Mystery Ranch.
Infact I was just about to order a crew cab then EXO and kuiu came out with 4lb packs.....
I liked the idea of a metal titanium frame over carbon fiber... Plus I shoot solid broads(same guy that started EXO).
I've carried over 100lbs comfortably
My only complaints are...not a fan of the lid and wish they had a 1800 size bag option.(think they actually changed the lid this year)
I'd call the 3500 more of a 3500-5k bag and the 5500 more as a 5500-7k bag just because of the front pocket and lid capacity
You really have a tough decision unfortantely because the pack playing field is the best it's been in decades. You can't hardly do wrong with any of them.
My Advice is first decide if you want an Alice style remove able frame pack or straight internal.
Then decide which has the right bag options for you
Then comes down to bag options.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/05/15 05:40 PM
I am leaning slighty towards the mytery ranch, as it smaller. As I undetstand, we can drive the trucks to the camp sight and our only packing what we need for the day. Right?
Pack gives you lots of configurations and options!!
I'd add the kifaru gun bearer.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/05/15 06:03 PM
Kifaru looks nice. But they are proud. 400 for packs plus 300 for frame ...
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/05/15 06:14 PM
I like the looks of the Mystery Ranch Crew Cab a lot.
And yes, we drive to camp and either hike out from there or drive to a trailhead and take off.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/05/15 11:34 PM
Kifaru looks nice. But they are proud. 400 for packs plus 300 for frame ...
Yelp $$$$$
But look at their gun bear (gun carring option)it's a way to carry your rifle, pretty handy. $35 I think
The Crew cab is a hell of pack that leaves you a ton of room for growth.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/06/15 12:38 AM
I saw that gun mount and thought it was slick. I wondered if I could use it on other packs
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/06/15 04:22 AM
I saw that gun mount and thought it was slick. I wondered if I could use it on other packs
Yes. Randy Newberg might be the top sales man for the gun bearer and he uses Mystery Ranch Crew cab pack
The butt basically attaches to the webbing in your hip belt.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/06/15 05:01 PM
EXO Mountain 3500
Weight- 4lbs 4 ounces
Frame- External
Interchangeable with other packs- yes
Min Size- 3500
Max Size- 5500
Price- 500
Mystery Ranch Long bow
Weight- 6lbs 9 ounces
Frame- Hybrid
Interchangeable with other packs- no
Min Size- 2300
Max Size- 2300
Price- 439
Mystery Ranch Crew Cab
Weight- 7lbs 14 ounces
Frame- Hybrid
Interchangeable with other packs- no
Min Size- 1900
Max Size- 5000
Price- 490
Kifaru Nomad
Weight- 4lbs 5 ounces
Frame- External
Interchangeable with other packs- yes
Min Size- 2400
Max Size- 7000
Price- 622
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/06/15 05:06 PM
I must be hunting wrong, same $75 day pack for 7-8 elk kills
One thing is for sure, you fellas will be "purdy"
How about this for $119? Has some great reviews.
ALPS OutdoorZ Commander Freighter Frame Plus Pack Bag, 5250 Cubic Inches
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004R7L7YU/?tag=rangermade-20
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/06/15 05:12 PM
I must be hunting wrong, same $75 day pack for 7-8 elk kills
One thing is for sure, you fellas will be "purdy"
How about this for $119? Has some great reviews.
ALPS OutdoorZ Commander Freighter Frame Plus Pack Bag, 5250 Cubic Inches
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004R7L7YU/?tag=rangermade-20that frame looks painful....
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/06/15 06:27 PM
I must be hunting wrong, same $75 day pack for 7-8 elk kills
One thing is for sure, you fellas will be "purdy"
How about this for $119? Has some great reviews.
ALPS OutdoorZ Commander Freighter Frame Plus Pack Bag, 5250 Cubic Inches
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004R7L7YU/?tag=rangermade-20 did you notice the picture in that ad the guy packing out the bull elk antler/head??? You would not catch me during daylight hours packing like that ... no orange!!!
I have a very old alum tube frame pack that my college roommate left upon leaving an old deer lease that I snagged that looks similar to this one. I might just take it to pack out with.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/06/15 06:39 PM
PMK, have toted them on the shoulders many a time, I always make sure my 400" of orange is showing and if I still have some flagging, I will look like a mobile used car lot! Only works when there are smart hunters around, some dumb ones will sure see a live bull with orange flagging all over his azz.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/06/15 06:52 PM
Cleric, I vote for the Crew Cab. I think you'll like it the most. Don't let an extra pound or two scare you.
And I want to get my hands on it to see how much I like it, too.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/06/15 06:56 PM
I must be hunting wrong, same $75 day pack for 7-8 elk kills
One thing is for sure, you fellas will be "purdy"
How about this for $119? Has some great reviews.
ALPS OutdoorZ Commander Freighter Frame Plus Pack Bag, 5250 Cubic Inches
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004R7L7YU/?tag=rangermade-20My CO elk hunting mentor was the same way. Cheap Wal Mart backpack with a few items tossed in. A frame he picked up at a garage sale for 2 bucks. Nothing fancy. Killed his bull nearly every year. He was just good at it.
I'm a gear junkie, though. Can't help it. I know it won't kill a bull for me, but it makes the experience more enjoyable for me, whether that's a good or bad thing. Besides, if I didn't spend my money on hunting, my wife would just waste it.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/06/15 06:58 PM
PMK, have toted them on the shoulders many a time, I always make sure my 400" of orange is showing and if I still have some flagging, I will look like a mobile used car lot! Only works when there are smart hunters around, some dumb ones will sure see a live bull with orange flagging all over his azz.
Oh yeah. Orange won't stop the ignorant or the blind. I always keep it visible, though, except for the one time they were shooting at me, anyway. I took it off so I could hide.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/06/15 07:04 PM
Cleric, I vote for the Crew Cab. I think you'll like it the most. Don't let an extra pound or two scare you.
And I want to get my hands on it to see how much I like it, too.
It is a hard call... I like the lay out of the Long Bow but its not versatile. Both the 3500 and CC are versatile...I have a slight edge on the 3500 though
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/06/15 07:14 PM
I must be hunting wrong, same $75 day pack for 7-8 elk kills
One thing is for sure, you fellas will be "purdy"
How about this for $119? Has some great reviews.
ALPS OutdoorZ Commander Freighter Frame Plus Pack Bag, 5250 Cubic Inches
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004R7L7YU/?tag=rangermade-20My CO elk hunting mentor was the same way. Cheap Wal Mart backpack with a few items tossed in. A frame he picked up at a garage sale for 2 bucks. Nothing fancy. Killed his bull nearly every year. He was just good at it.
I'm a gear junkie, though. Can't help it. I know it won't kill a bull for me, but it makes the experience more enjoyable for me, whether that's a good or bad thing. Besides, if I didn't spend my money on hunting, my wife would just waste it.
We must know each other
But I did buy my pack at Cabelas, so I am still in the "click" right?
Just messing with y'all any way, what ever gets you the thrill, I went through the same thing years ago, until I figured out what works for me, light and mobile if needed. Camp is a whole different thing, a body can't be to comfortable or spoiled if it is a drive up camp, IMO, a comfortable camp will make or break a hunting trip in the Mountains.
Anyway, won't be any "fashion police" up there unless BOBO tags along
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/06/15 07:18 PM
PMK, have toted them on the shoulders many a time, I always make sure my 400" of orange is showing and if I still have some flagging, I will look like a mobile used car lot! Only works when there are smart hunters around, some dumb ones will sure see a live bull with orange flagging all over his azz.
Oh yeah. Orange won't stop the ignorant or the blind. I always keep it visible, though, except for the one time they were shooting at me, anyway. I took it off so I could hide.
You will have to "splain" the story around a camp fire sometime, I cant see you doing, or saying anything that would get you "shot at"
BTW, I know of 2 fellas that had a horse shot out from under them, one even painted "horse" on the rear qtr of his, damn near used a 50' roll of florescent flagging on his mount too. Luckily he was walking the horse by rein over some rock.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/06/15 10:02 PM
yep, I have made dead mule deer looks like a Christmas tree with tensile but using orange ribbon all over it while dragging it out.
Yes, I want to hear the story too about being shot at!!! One year I spotted another hunter a long ways off, looked thru my binoculars to see him scoping me with his rifle which ticked me off. He was likely 1000 yards and down hill a long ways and I think it might take him a couple dozen shots to figure out windage/elevation to tag me, which would give me time to take cover.
another thought ... do ya'll carry fire wood up with you or pickup deadwood in the forest for camp fires?
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/06/15 10:10 PM
I also need to figure out how to get there. I don't think i can take that friday off too....Even if i leave at noon its still a 12-14 hour drive
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/06/15 10:36 PM
PMK, have toted them on the shoulders many a time, I always make sure my 400" of orange is showing and if I still have some flagging, I will look like a mobile used car lot! Only works when there are smart hunters around, some dumb ones will sure see a live bull with orange flagging all over his azz.
Oh yeah. Orange won't stop the ignorant or the blind. I always keep it visible, though, except for the one time they were shooting at me, anyway. I took it off so I could hide.
That story sure is starting to sound like a jealous husband.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/07/15 12:34 AM
Similar story. Saw the guy scoping me several hundred yards away. Started packing my things and heading up the mountain. He took the shot, though. Turns out he was at least 80 and half blind. He shot about 5' low. I wasn't in much danger, but I took no chances at the time.
We gather dead and down wood up there. If I get there a day early, I should have plenty of time for that. The first season guys may leave some behind, anyway.
Leave as early as you can, get there when you get there. The season is nine days long this year. There will be plenty of hunting left when you show up.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/07/15 12:36 AM
PMK, have toted them on the shoulders many a time, I always make sure my 400" of orange is showing and if I still have some flagging, I will look like a mobile used car lot! Only works when there are smart hunters around, some dumb ones will sure see a live bull with orange flagging all over his azz.
Oh yeah. Orange won't stop the ignorant or the blind. I always keep it visible, though, except for the one time they were shooting at me, anyway. I took it off so I could hide.
That story sure is starting to sound like a jealous husband.
Hah! Now it does. This man's wife was probably 5 decades to old for me, though. Californian, too.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/07/15 12:43 AM
Also had a fellow "scope me", he was a Californian. I was major pizzed off. We talked
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/07/15 01:37 AM
We gather dead and down wood up there. If I get there a day early, I should have plenty of time for that. The first season guys may leave some behind, anyway.
I sure want to met up a day or two early...
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/07/15 02:05 AM
At camp?
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/07/15 03:55 AM
Was looking at midway use for some stuff
Wanted to get a portable knife sharper and a maybe a skinning knife.
Than I looked at game bags. The seem to be either 20$ or 100$. Didn't realize they were so pricey
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/07/15 04:05 AM
You can get great cotton blend bags almost anywhere in Colorado, that has hunting stuff and they will be the right size. Around $19 for a set of 4 large bags with tie string.
They are washable
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/07/15 04:07 AM
The Alaskan game bags are good for the money. Some guys like trash bags. I don't care for it, but if the temps are low enough, I'm sure it's fine. Pillow cases work well, too.
The Piranta is perfect for this hunt. It's lightweight and you don't have to mess with sharpening it. Inexpensive, too. You really can't beat it for practicality. Oh, and it's quite sharp.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/07/15 01:05 PM
Just curious, but what's wrong with using trash bags?
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/07/15 01:57 PM
Nothing, according to some. I just don't like that they don't breath. They can trap heat and spoil meat. Wouldn't be an issue if it's cool enough, but I'm not always in a position to take that chance. Game bags breathe and are especially handy for hanging quarters in trees overnight until you can make the next trip. Some people use them without issue. I don't risk it. Game bags are worth the money to me.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/07/15 02:01 PM
That makes sense. I was just thinking why would it matter what the material was while packing out and a trash bag will keep your pack cleaner, but I didn't really think about hanging the meat up over night and breathability.
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/07/15 02:19 PM
Just read an article about game meat care and the gist of it was that a lot of meat is ruined with trash bags and guys trying to keep their pack clean.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/07/15 02:39 PM
That makes sense. Wishful thinking on a $4 box of trash bags vs. $20 for 4 game bags. Wasn't sure how much of a gimmick the game bag was. You never know what gimmicks are out and about this day and age.
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/07/15 02:40 PM
That makes sense. Wishful thinking on a $4 box of trash bags vs. $20 for 4 game bags. Wasn't sure how much of a gimmick the game bag was. You never know what gimmicks are out and about this day and age.
Some one gave me a "butt out" once. I still have it somewhere...unused.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/07/15 02:55 PM
I like them and find them to be worth the money. I keep five in my pack. Four for quarters, one for the cuttings. Pillow cases are a good alternative. Probably cheaper, too. I'm sure the game bags take up a little less space, though.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/07/15 02:59 PM
I've soaked my Dragonfly with plenty of blood. It's no worse for the wear. I suppose a liner could be made with a trash bag to keep it clean, but it's never bothered me.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/07/15 04:46 PM
Just curious, but what's wrong with using trash bags?
Traps the heat in. I wouldn't let plastic near mine, unless it the meat was already frozen.
Posted By: Chunky Monkey
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/07/15 08:40 PM
Someone PM me the basic info please. Dates, where, how many, etc...?
I will be hunting near Montrose with a small group from Sept 12-19ish.
If I am in the neighborhood then I might swing by and say hello to my fellow THFer's.
Thanks,
CM
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/07/15 08:49 PM
The dates are Oct. 17-25 and somewhere on Taylor Mesa. The rest is still unknown lol
Posted By: Chunky Monkey
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/07/15 09:08 PM
The dates are Oct. 17-25 and somewhere on Taylor Mesa. The rest is still unknown lol
Thanks, that's too far away in dates. Good luck!
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/07/15 09:09 PM
Yes sir! Is that possible?
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/07/15 09:10 PM
I got Allen Backcountry Quarter Bags 28" X 50". These were recommended by the guy I bought my Team Elk backpack from.
http://www.sportsmanswarehouse.com/sport...67026/cat100172I didn't pay that much..
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/07/15 09:20 PM
I can buy a whole lot of pillow cases for that price Chief Joe
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/07/15 09:41 PM
So I think the Exo 3500 won. Going to try and put an order in for it.
The crew cab just was not a lot for the money. And ease of access was limited in those cylinder bags
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/07/15 11:22 PM
The dates are Oct. 17-25 and somewhere on Taylor Mesa. The rest is still unknown lol
I'll get a group pm with specifics put together so everyone knows where we're going, specifically. I'm off duty right now, so I'm busy. I'll have time when I get back to work in a few hours.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/07/15 11:26 PM
Yes sir! Is that possible?
I believe so. I intend to show up the morning of the 16th. I should be able to swing that. Any earlier, and we'll have first season hunters in the way. It would be great if you or anyone else showed up early, as well.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/07/15 11:27 PM
So I think the Exo 3500 won. Going to try and put an order in for it.
The crew cab just was not a lot for the money. And ease of access was limited in those cylinder bags
I'm sure you'll like it a lot. They're supposed to be good.
Posted By: Chunky Monkey
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/08/15 12:10 AM
So I think the Exo 3500 won. Going to try and put an order in for it.
The crew cab just was not a lot for the money. And ease of access was limited in those cylinder bags
I'm sure you'll like it a lot. They're supposed to be good.
That's a lot of money for that pack.
Look at this one:
http://www.basspro.com/RedHead-RH5000-External-Frame-Pack-Combo/product/13011606063211/I climbed a real mountain and stayed on it for 5 days with this pack. It is tuff and will give you everything you need. I mean that I beat the heck out of this thing. All the bags detach so that you can wash them. Also, the game bag that is inside of it is freaking huge! You can take it out or leave it in for hauling and its waterproof to keep everything clean for you. Couldn't be more pleased with it.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/08/15 12:18 AM
Cleric where do you live?
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/08/15 12:22 AM
Actually I forgot I'm special
PM me and you and look mine over before you order.
That way you can put it into perspective better
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/09/15 10:30 AM
Sneaky, You mentioned Altitude Advantage products. Were you referring to the vitamins or one of the drinks?
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/09/15 10:41 AM
Capsules. Wilderness Athlete makes all kinds of stuff. I'm sure it's all good, but I get my vitamins and what not from other sources. The Altitude Advantage I get from them.
http://www.wildernessathlete.com/altitude-advantage/
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/09/15 02:39 PM
There is a prescription medicine too
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/09/15 03:03 PM
Sneaky, You mentioned Altitude Advantage products. Were you referring to the vitamins or one of the drinks?
I like acli-mate and wilderness advantage. I use acli-mate more just because you can order a variety pack. WA was out of stock of the individual
Acli mate has more flavors then WA but both are good.
Are they a must? No. Do they make you super man?no. Do they help?yes. Are they worth it? I think so.
At very minimum they will make you stay hydrated if you if you drink two to three a day.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/09/15 03:04 PM
There is a prescription medicine too
It works(it a pre trip thing though) Use both and you lare ot less likely to get attitude sickness.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/09/15 04:43 PM
I'm fairly certain the AA helps significantly. I'm sure the worse shape you're in, the more it helps, but I think it's a good idea for anyone not used to the altitude. I've been up there with and without it. Could be coincidence, but there was a difference.
Of course, it's just one piece of the puzzle. You still want to stay hydrated and fed on your ascent into the high country. That, for me, makes the biggest difference.
Posted By: Shawheel
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/09/15 04:58 PM
I haven't tried the fancy stuff, but you can get a big old box of Emergen-C at Costco for pretty cheap and I swear by it. Helps after running in this heat, and seems to help in the elevation.
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/09/15 10:22 PM
The prescription medication is called Acetazolamide (brand name is Diamox). It is a diuretic (makes you pee) so be close to a bathroom. A 125mg dose (formerly 250mg) twice daily, started two days prior to elevation change, is as effective as any higher doses. I had a colleague prescribe me some and I used it for my backpacking trek back in June. Worked like a charm without any side effects, though there are side effects (frequent urination, altered taste, neuropathy like sensation of the skin). It doesn't work for everyone and if you have a Sulfa allergy it's contraindicated.
Just as good and not requiring a prescription/doctors visit is Ibuprofen. In 2012 the Annals (that's two "N's" not one) of Emergency Medicine did a study and found a 600mg dose three times a day, starting 6 hours prior to ascending was just as effective as Acetazolamide. I put other members accompanying me on our backpacking trip on this regimen and it seemed to work as well. Obviously if you have a history of gastric ulcers, this isn't a good idea for you. There were 18 of us and no one had any Acute Mountain Sickness AMS)symptoms.
As someone else mentioned, staying hydrated is strongly encouraged and will help avoid AMS. So will acclimatization, avoiding strenuous activity and not smoking.
Regarding herbal remedies (i.e. Gingo Biloba,) the studies currently published are conflicting and therefore not solely recommended. Several other studies have found no benefit to antioxidants (vit C, E, and alpha lipoic acid) or magnesium. I however would still continue to take my vitamins and supplements as I normally do but would not expect them to add any additional benefit regarding AMS.
Hope that helps.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/09/15 10:29 PM
Got my Altitude Advantage capsules ordered tonight!
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/09/15 10:35 PM
...and if you have a Sulfa allergy it's contraindicated.
(Plain) English doc. And I take it, that's a bad thing.
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/09/15 10:37 PM
lol, NOT RECOMMENDED/WISE/PRUDENT/SAFE
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/09/15 11:16 PM
They should put that on the warning label.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/10/15 03:01 AM
The prescription medication is called Acetazolamide (brand name is Diamox). It is a diuretic (makes you pee) so be close to a bathroom. A 125mg dose (formerly 250mg) twice daily, started two days prior to elevation change, is as effective as any higher doses. I had a colleague prescribe me some and I used it for my backpacking trek back in June. Worked like a charm without any side effects, though there are side effects (frequent urination, altered taste, neuropathy like sensation of the skin). It doesn't work for everyone and if you have a Sulfa allergy it's contraindicated.
Just as good and not requiring a prescription/doctors visit is Ibuprofen. In 2012 the Annals (that's two "N's" not one) of Emergency Medicine did a study and found a 600mg dose three times a day, starting 6 hours prior to ascending was just as effective as Acetazolamide. I put other members accompanying me on our backpacking trip on this regimen and it seemed to work as well. Obviously if you have a history of gastric ulcers, this isn't a good idea for you. There were 18 of us and no one had any Acute Mountain Sickness AMS)symptoms.
As someone else mentioned, staying hydrated is strongly encouraged and will help avoid AMS. So will acclimatization, avoiding strenuous activity and not smoking.
Regarding herbal remedies (i.e. Gingo Biloba,) the studies currently published are conflicting and therefore not solely recommended. Several other studies have found no benefit to antioxidants (vit C, E, and alpha lipoic acid) or magnesium. I however would still continue to take my vitamins and supplements as I normally do but would not expect them to add any additional benefit regarding AMS.
Hope that helps.
Absolutely. Thank you. It's always nice to have a professional's advice.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/10/15 03:03 AM
Got my Altitude Advantage capsules ordered tonight!
So did I. I couldn't find what I had left over from last year, so I ordered another bottle. I'm sure the old one will show up when I pack.
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/10/15 08:08 AM
I don't remember if this has been discussed or not, but are ATV's allowed? and if so, is it even worth it? I have a Kubota side by side that would help with retrieval but not sure I could use it.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/10/15 09:51 AM
Yes. No.
They are allowed, but only in places I can take my truck, anyway. Any bulls shot will be packed out, unless you get lucky and he drops next to a road. Don't count on that.
I don't think it's worth it. My truck has a heater.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/10/15 12:28 PM
The prescription medication is called Acetazolamide (brand name is Diamox). It is a diuretic (makes you pee) so be close to a bathroom. A 125mg dose (formerly 250mg) twice daily, started two days prior to elevation change, is as effective as any higher doses. I had a colleague prescribe me some and I used it for my backpacking trek back in June. Worked like a charm without any side effects, though there are side effects (frequent urination, altered taste, neuropathy like sensation of the skin). It doesn't work for everyone and if you have a Sulfa allergy it's contraindicated.
Just as good and not requiring a prescription/doctors visit is Ibuprofen. In 2012 the Annals (that's two "N's" not one) of Emergency Medicine did a study and found a 600mg dose three times a day, starting 6 hours prior to ascending was just as effective as Acetazolamide. I put other members accompanying me on our backpacking trip on this regimen and it seemed to work as well. Obviously if you have a history of gastric ulcers, this isn't a good idea for you. There were 18 of us and no one had any Acute Mountain Sickness AMS)symptoms.
As someone else mentioned, staying hydrated is strongly encouraged and will help avoid AMS. So will acclimatization, avoiding strenuous activity and not smoking.
Regarding herbal remedies (i.e. Gingo Biloba,) the studies currently published are conflicting and therefore not solely recommended. Several other studies have found no benefit to antioxidants (vit C, E, and alpha lipoic acid) or magnesium. I however would still continue to take my vitamins and supplements as I normally do but would not expect them to add any additional benefit regarding AMS.
Hope that helps.
What would your thoughts be on an ibeprofen+altitude advantage combination?
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/10/15 01:24 PM
I don't remember if this has been discussed or not, but are ATV's allowed? and if so, is it even worth it? I have a Kubota side by side that would help with retrieval but not sure I could use it.
If you do take one, you have to get a $25 permit. They are available anywhere licenses are sold. Not sure about the exact area Sneaky is in, but some areas are "horseback, or foot only". These areas are always marked by signs at the trail heads and/or parking area.
Also mandatory to have an enclosed gun scabbard, all guns on the atv have to be in one and unloaded.
They can be very helpful in some situations, like getting to an area down a road, but tough to get them very far off road if there is no wide trail.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/10/15 01:52 PM
I don't guess any of you guys that went last year looked around to see if there was an outfitter in that general area OR a place that leases (day or two) horses for pack out? That sure makes it a heck of a lot easier!!! We found horses that we leased around Lake Vallecito but that's a bit of a haul (east of Durango, north of Bayfield). I used to have a friend that lived in Silverton that had access to several horses, but haven't had contact with him in years...
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/10/15 03:49 PM
There's outfitters all over. I know of one with horses near Dunton, but I don't know who specifically provides that service. Half the fun is packing out your own bull, anyway.
Most of where we hunt isn't too bad. There's a direct route, downhill, to the highway. Some other spots would be pretty bad, but we don't hunt there unless we have to. Like if someone burns breakfast, I'll show them the way to those spots.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/10/15 04:38 PM
ha, I might agree with you 20-30 years ago but I have come to the realization that "fun" and packing an elk out do not go together ...
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/10/15 04:53 PM
You'll have lots of help. Chief Joe loves packing elk.
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/10/15 05:44 PM
What would your thoughts be on an ibeprofen+altitude advantage combination? [/quote]
In my opinion & I am no expert here, the altitude advantage is nothing more than a combination of herbs and antioxidants. According to the literature, there are no significant altitude sickness prevention benefits from the antioxidants. They might energize you but that's about it. The herbal remedies, mainly Gingo, is very inconclusive as to whether or not it has any benefits with altitude sickness. I personally have not tried it so I will not say it is ineffective. It essentially is just an herbal/vitamin supplement. Most of your daily vitamins supplements contain all of this with the exception of the herbs.
I don't see any reason that would prevent someone from taking the two together. Personally, I would just take the Ibuprofen and or Acetazolamide and continue my vitamin supplements. Just make sure there isn't any reason you should not take the Ibuprofen (consult with your doctor). Some are more prone to having a stomach ulcer resulting in bleeding with Ibuprofen especially in higher doses. Per the study, they recommend 600mg three times a day (1800mg in 24 hours). This is above the daily recommended dose of 1200mg in 24 hours and therefore should be used with caution. Make sure to take with meals and not on an empty stomach. I would get an okay by your primary care physician just to be safe. Everyone's medical/health problems are different and I am not about to tell anyone to do something on a public forum without getting personal approval from his/her own doctor.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/10/15 06:38 PM
agree with theringworm ... from what I've been told, be sure you are very well hydrated PRIOR to heading up to higher altitude and you SHOULD be fine. I'm sure I will be overdosing on Ibuprofen shortly after getting up there but that's going to be in relation to aches and pains. Drink plenty of water a week or two prior to leaving and there shouldn't be any effects. I know nothing about the AA supplements (actually had never heard of them prior to this discussion).
Good to hear Sneaky, and figured if Chief Joe continues to climb that semi-circular tower daily, that he will be up to the task.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/10/15 07:40 PM
I heard sneaky is going to help everyone pack out...
I should try to go see my gp sometime...
So I shouldn't just bring coke up there and assume I will get enough water from it??
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/10/15 07:50 PM
Of all the fellas I have taken and hunted/camped with up there (including some wimmens) I have only seen one person get sick, he was a diabetic to start with. Well, there was that one other diabetic that lost his vision for a couple of hrs, both had type 2 iirc.
You fellas should give me all that money your going to spend on "cures" and I'll keep it in escrow for you....Only 10% fee
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/10/15 07:55 PM
I heard sneaky is going to help everyone pack out...
I should try to go see my gp sometime...
So I shouldn't just bring coke up there and assume I will get enough water from it??
I thought that stuff was pretty dry. Should keep you going good, though.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/10/15 07:56 PM
Of all the fellas I have taken and hunted/camped with up there (including some wimmens) I have only seen one person get sick, he was a diabetic to start with. Well, there was that one other diabetic that lost his vision for a couple of hrs, both had type 2 iirc.
You fellas should give me all that money your going to spend on "cures" and I'll keep it in escrow for you....Only 10% fee
It doesn't happen often, but I've seen what it can do. It's ugly. I've spent money on worse things. On elk hunts, too.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/10/15 07:57 PM
I heard sneaky is going to help everyone pack out...
I should try to go see my gp sometime...
So I shouldn't just bring coke up there and assume I will get enough water from it??
I thought that stuff was pretty dry. Should keep you going good, though.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/10/15 08:22 PM
Of all the fellas I have taken and hunted/camped with up there (including some wimmens) I have only seen one person get sick, he was a diabetic to start with. Well, there was that one other diabetic that lost his vision for a couple of hrs, both had type 2 iirc.
You fellas should give me all that money your going to spend on "cures" and I'll keep it in escrow for you....Only 10% fee
I went to Colorado for vacation once. We were at 9k and it hit me like a ton of bricks the first night. Part of the issues was we went from Dfw to 9k in the span of 5 hours. But it sucks hard.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/10/15 08:27 PM
Of all the fellas I have taken and hunted/camped with up there (including some wimmens) I have only seen one person get sick, he was a diabetic to start with. Well, there was that one other diabetic that lost his vision for a couple of hrs, both had type 2 iirc.
You fellas should give me all that money your going to spend on "cures" and I'll keep it in escrow for you....Only 10% fee
I've gotten sick before but at 14k
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/10/15 08:37 PM
Of all the fellas I have taken and hunted/camped with up there (including some wimmens) I have only seen one person get sick, he was a diabetic to start with. Well, there was that one other diabetic that lost his vision for a couple of hrs, both had type 2 iirc.
You fellas should give me all that money your going to spend on "cures" and I'll keep it in escrow for you....Only 10% fee
I've gotten sick before but at 14k
Well duh BOBO, you "aint" got no bidness being at 14,000 feet SMDH
Goat hunting? That is over tree line and not the average place you spend the day, done it too, but just got short breath big time! Thinks I went just over 12k, would have to look at that mountains peak elevation again.
I hunt from 4500-10k, depending on the animals, usually somewhere in the upper middle.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/10/15 08:38 PM
BTW, if I get over 14k, I better be in a small chair, buckled in with a cute girl asking me if I want a drink and peanuts..
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/10/15 10:46 PM
We were at tree line on the 4th, near Silverton. A few of the boys thought they would have a foot race a couple hundred yards up the mountain. I met them up there in the truck to drag them back in to the cab.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/10/15 11:15 PM
You'll have lots of help. Chief Joe loves packing elk.
I hope we have to draw straws for many opportunities to pack multiple elk out!
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/10/15 11:41 PM
You'll have lots of help. Chief Joe loves packing elk.
I hope we have to draw straws for many opportunities to pack multiple elk out!
Just hand Sneaky a handful of them and walk off.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/11/15 12:30 AM
GROUP hunt. Remember that.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/11/15 01:10 AM
GROUP hunt. Remember that.
GROUP hunt. Remember that.
That means you point them out and we shoot them right?
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/11/15 01:19 AM
Pretty close. Throw in a quick draw, and you've got it.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/11/15 05:30 AM
Sneaky, wondering if you'll be man enough for this group of "campers", you're already loosing control....Hope someone has a super sized 1st aide kit
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/11/15 05:39 AM
Question for those of you who car camped last year, how was the cold? I have a small pop up camper, and even thought about pulling the trigger and getting a motor home. But I think I will just pull the back seat out and lay the middle seat down in my Excursion, then sleep in the back. I was just wondering if you were able to bundle up enough to stay warm at night? I don't think I will try to run any kind of heater due to no electricity, not wanting to run my battery down and carbon monoxide worries with propane.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/11/15 07:34 AM
Sneaky, wondering if you'll be man enough for this group of "campers", you're already loosing control....Hope someone has a super sized 1st aide kit
One in the truck. One in the pack. Got a cell booster if things get too out of hand.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/11/15 07:36 AM
Question for those of you who car camped last year, how was the cold? I have a small pop up camper, and even thought about pulling the trigger and getting a motor home. But I think I will just pull the back seat out and lay the middle seat down in my Excursion, then sleep in the back. I was just wondering if you were able to bundle up enough to stay warm at night? I don't think I will try to run any kind of heater due to no electricity, not wanting to run my battery down and carbon monoxide worries with propane.
I was perfectly comfortable with just a cheap sleeping bag. It didn't get that cold, but you're no worse off than in a tent. Just bring enough to stay warm.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/11/15 11:17 AM
I plan to bring a small propane heater for the back of my truck in the bed. Also building up pallet to get off the cold bed.
I also have a 15 gal container I want to fill as I get closer with potable water.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/11/15 11:59 AM
There's a spring down the road that's got the water your looking for.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/11/15 12:13 PM
I am brining the tent
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/11/15 12:16 PM
Of all the fellas I have taken and hunted/camped with up there (including some wimmens) I have only seen one person get sick, he was a diabetic to start with. Well, there was that one other diabetic that lost his vision for a couple of hrs, both had type 2 iirc.
You fellas should give me all that money your going to spend on "cures" and I'll keep it in escrow for you....Only 10% fee
I've gotten sick before but at 14k
Well duh BOBO, you "aint" got no bidness being at 14,000 feet SMDH
Goat hunting? That is over tree line and not the average place you spend the day, done it too, but just got short breath big time! Thinks I went just over 12k, would have to look at that mountains peak elevation again.
I hunt from 4500-10k, depending on the animals, usually somewhere in the upper middle.
No for fun. I've even ran pikes peak back in the day.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/11/15 12:25 PM
Doesn't sound like fun.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/11/15 12:34 PM
Yeah RIGHT!
Back in the day when he was young....Probably went like this so be thankful you wont have to watch BOBO..."Hey mom, going to play in the back yard", then he ends up on Pikes peak smh. Boy must have been a handful
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/11/15 05:21 PM
Who's drinking the yellow water??
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/11/15 05:32 PM
Not near as fun as the alternative for the day most likely,
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/11/15 05:54 PM
Yeah RIGHT!
Back in the day when he was young....Probably went like this so be thankful you wont have to watch BOBO..."Hey mom, going to play in the back yard", then he ends up on Pikes peak smh. Boy must have been a handful
Lol by that time I was a Man!! Well atleast the sign I walked under said I was.
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/13/15 08:24 AM
Anyone know about other animals that we could possibly take while there? I was able to see that we could get a bear or deer tags for an extra $350 or so each, what about Audad? I seem to recall lots of pictures from last year with them.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/13/15 09:27 AM
No Aoudad up there. Deer tags are draw only. That's passed. Bear tags are OTC with caps. First come first serve. You'll have to call or check online to see if any are left. I never see any, but there's a lot of sign in our area. The one thing I do see a lot of and hope to shoot is grouse. You need a small game license for that, along with the HIP cert. You can shoot 3 a day and possess 9. Supposed to be excellent eating. I'm going to focus on elk, for now, but I'm taking my shotgun. If things work out, I'd like to spend a couple days chasing them.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/13/15 10:45 AM
What Sneaky said...
Those grouse are probably the best bird I have ever had, great eating. Easy to take with a bow (how I got mine) You just have to spot them 1st. Don't think I would comprimise my elk hunt over one though.
You also have a fishing license included with your big game tag now, so you have that option if there is fishing near Taylor Mesa. I know the creek that runs along the road as you leave Delores has cutthroats in it, as I have caught them up stream in tributaries there.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/13/15 01:31 PM
There is good fishing there, too. I never catch any, but people that know how to fish do.
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/13/15 02:00 PM
No Aoudad up there. Deer tags are draw only. That's passed. Bear tags are OTC with caps. First come first serve. You'll have to call or check online to see if any are left. I never see any, but there's a lot of sign in our area. The one thing I do see a lot of and hope to shoot is grouse. You need a small game license for that, along with the HIP cert. You can shoot 3 a day and possess 9. Supposed to be excellent eating. I'm going to focus on elk, for now, but I'm taking my shotgun. If things work out, I'd like to spend a couple days chasing them.
I sat once last year in a place that had lots of bear sign. I had a tag. It felt right. I knew it was going to happen. Hours passed. Something was approaching from my rear. Alas, it was the east Texas bear Sneaky had brought along with him.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/13/15 02:04 PM
Yeah, he's the closest thing to a bear that I've ever seen up there. Scarier, too.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/13/15 02:04 PM
What Sneaky said...
Those grouse are probably the best bird I have ever had, great eating. Easy to take with a bow (how I got mine) You just have to spot them 1st. Don't think I would comprimise my elk hunt over one though.
You also have a fishing license included with your big game tag now, so you have that option if there is fishing near Taylor Mesa. I know the creek that runs along the road as you leave Delores has cutthroats in it, as I have caught them up stream in tributaries there.
How do you catch the stupid things?
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/13/15 02:12 PM
No Aoudad up there. Deer tags are draw only. That's passed. Bear tags are OTC with caps. First come first serve. You'll have to call or check online to see if any are left. I never see any, but there's a lot of sign in our area. The one thing I do see a lot of and hope to shoot is grouse. You need a small game license for that, along with the HIP cert. You can shoot 3 a day and possess 9. Supposed to be excellent eating. I'm going to focus on elk, for now, but I'm taking my shotgun. If things work out, I'd like to spend a couple days chasing them.
Found a 3rd season deer voucher, can't locate a 2nd season.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/13/15 02:13 PM
LO tag?
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/13/15 02:13 PM
Sneaky, I was using a fly rod with small nymphs type thing's, but I have also seen them caught with tiny mepps spinners and small crappie type jigs.
McPhee resevoir also has fish. Kokanee Salmon, rainbows, walleye, small MB. I never fished it, but heard locals liked it and did pretty good when we lived up there. I bet you could get some good intel from the bait store there in Delores (across the street from the liquor store iirc)
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/13/15 02:16 PM
is
yep. $2K, a 2nd season should be half of that.. so future trips, $1000 to possibly shoot a good size muley is a pretty good deal since you're making the trip anyway.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/13/15 02:24 PM
Sneaky, I was using a fly rod with small nymphs type thing's, but I have also seen them caught with tiny mepps spinners and small crappie type jigs.
McPhee resevoir also has fish. Kokanee Salmon, rainbows, walleye, small MB. I never fished it, but heard locals liked it and did pretty good when we lived up there. I bet you could get some good intel from the bait store there in Delores (across the street from the liquor store iirc)
We drove by there, once. My buddy had fished it and said it was good.
I may take an ultralight with some spinners. Who knows.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/13/15 02:24 PM
is
yep. $2K, a 2nd season should be half of that.. so future trips, $1000 to possibly shoot a good size muley is a pretty good deal since you're making the trip anyway.
Yeah, that's not bad at all.
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/13/15 02:28 PM
Yeah, he's the closest thing to a bear that I've ever seen up there. Scarier, too.
And funnier too. I could listen to his stories all night
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/13/15 02:31 PM
Sneaky, I was using a fly rod with small nymphs type thing's, but I have also seen them caught with tiny mepps spinners and small crappie type jigs.
McPhee resevoir also has fish. Kokanee Salmon, rainbows, walleye, small MB. I never fished it, but heard locals liked it and did pretty good when we lived up there. I bet you could get some good intel from the bait store there in Delores (across the street from the liquor store iirc)
We drove by there, once. My buddy had fished it and said it was good.
I may take an ultralight with some spinners. Who knows.
Hey, you kill out opening day, it would be fun to fish after tending to all that meat, of course, while you wait to go help the fellas pack theirs
I go a day or 2 early just to fish, sitting by that nice water on the lake, while looking at the surrounding mountains, just plain peaceful.
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/13/15 02:37 PM
Heck, checking on it, it's a 1pt draw. So a % could've drawn this year every other year.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/13/15 03:09 PM
Yeah, he's the closest thing to a bear that I've ever seen up there. Scarier, too.
And funnier too. I could listen to his stories all night
I know it. He's always getting in some sort of bind. Luckily, I think I have him talked into going for a few days.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/13/15 03:11 PM
Sneaky, I was using a fly rod with small nymphs type thing's, but I have also seen them caught with tiny mepps spinners and small crappie type jigs.
McPhee resevoir also has fish. Kokanee Salmon, rainbows, walleye, small MB. I never fished it, but heard locals liked it and did pretty good when we lived up there. I bet you could get some good intel from the bait store there in Delores (across the street from the liquor store iirc)
We drove by there, once. My buddy had fished it and said it was good.
I may take an ultralight with some spinners. Who knows.
Hey, you kill out opening day, it would be fun to fish after tending to all that meat, of course, while you wait to go help the fellas pack theirs
I go a day or 2 early just to fish, sitting by that nice water on the lake, while looking at the surrounding mountains, just plain peaceful.
Not a bad idea.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/13/15 03:12 PM
Heck, checking on it, it's a 1pt draw. So a % could've drawn this year every other year.
One of these days I'll start applying for it.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/13/15 04:29 PM
I'm committed now. Just bought my tag online. I noticed the fee went up to $615 this year.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/13/15 05:28 PM
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/13/15 06:04 PM
I'm committed now. Just bought my tag online. I noticed the fee went up to $615 this year.
Yes sir, notice that too did ya? Keeps creeping up, but still a decent value I suppose.
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/13/15 06:08 PM
Guess so. Collision deductible is $500.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/13/15 06:28 PM
Still worth it, to me.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/13/15 06:55 PM
I'm committed now. Just bought my tag online. I noticed the fee went up to $615 this year.
Yes sir, notice that too did ya? Keeps creeping up, but still a decent value I suppose.
NM was 557 out the door for me this year. I thought my my CO refund was in the 500's also... Damn now I'm going to have to go back and double check
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/13/15 07:51 PM
Standard tag or LO? The quality and high demand are what, 800, now?
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/13/15 07:54 PM
Standard tag or LO? The quality and high demand are what, 800, now?
Ah that's it my NM tag is a LO ES unit tag.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/13/15 10:23 PM
I'm committed now. Just bought my tag online. I noticed the fee went up to $615 this year.
Yes sir, notice that too did ya? Keeps creeping up, but still a decent value I suppose.
NM was 557 out the door for me this year. I thought my my CO refund was in the 500's also... Damn now I'm going to have to go back and double check
If you applied for Colorado this year, you paid $600+, same as I did when I applied for 1st.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/13/15 10:27 PM
Think my refund was mid 500's need to double check
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/13/15 10:37 PM
Think my refund was mid 500's need to double check
Bet you a qtr you paid the new fee for this year, maybe your refund was $615 and your wife took the $115!
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/13/15 10:38 PM
BTW BOBO, you do realize that now since you have no elk tag, you will have a 450" bull at 6 yards
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/13/15 11:04 PM
Don't remember the exact amount but it was in the 500s with habitat and PP taken out.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/13/15 11:35 PM
BTW BOBO, you do realize that now since you have no elk tag, you will have a 450" bull at 6 yards
why on earth would you curse another hunter like that...
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/13/15 11:48 PM
BTW BOBO, you do realize that now since you have no elk tag, you will have a 450" bull at 6 yards
I got elk, mulie and bear tag(I have no idea why I have a bear tag) just no CO tags(yet)
I'm hunting NM this year if I tag out early I will be north bound though
Beauty of OTC archery elk tags in CO.... I'm actually scouting mulies next week in CO... I may end up with a CO mulie tag... Depends on how much my right kidney brings on eBay
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/13/15 11:53 PM
BTW BOBO, you do realize that now since you have no elk tag, you will have a 450" bull at 6 yards
why on earth would you curse another hunter like that...
Oh he knows my luck.. Had a 230 mulie at 5 yards twice in the same week... Just no tag!!!
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/14/15 12:04 AM
BOBO, did you apply for just a PP?
From the 2015 CO regs
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/14/15 12:06 AM
BOBO, did you apply for just a PP?
From the 2015 CO regs
Yelp!!!! Know I wasn't crazy!!!!
Ya I only hunt OTC archery so no brainer build PP
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/14/15 12:09 AM
BTW BOBO, you do realize that now since you have no elk tag, you will have a 450" bull at 6 yards
why on earth would you curse another hunter like that...
I don't believe in "curses", I do believe in having a world class buck in your lap, or your truck burning up as good, or bad luck depending on your POV...
BTW BOBO, you do realize that now since you have no elk tag, you will have a 450" bull at 6 yards
I got elk, mulie and bear tag(I have no idea why I have a bear tag) just no CO tags(yet)
I'm hunting NM this year if I tag out early I will be north bound though
Beauty of OTC archery elk tags in CO.... I'm actually scouting mulies next week in CO... I may end up with a CO mulie tag... Depends on how much my right kidney brings on eBay
Yes sir, the archery tag sure gives you some flexibility on season.
How can you have a bear tag and not know?? Possibly a DNR freebie/mistake??
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/14/15 12:15 AM
Lol.
bear tag is OTC. I got talked into it.. Never thought twice about shooting a bear, never interested me... Never know though
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/14/15 01:07 PM
Got the days off, now, too. If I can't get something done, this go round, I may just give it up.
Don't give up. I've enjoyed this topic thread and thinking would like to do it next year!
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/14/15 01:32 PM
Guess we better kill something then.
Guess we better kill something then.
Stay after them......
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/14/15 01:55 PM
Lol.
bear tag is OTC. I got talked into it.. Never thought twice about shooting a bear, never interested me... Never know though
Got ya, bears are cool, everyone has WT in the room, not everyone has a bear rug
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/14/15 01:56 PM
Got the days off, now, too. If I can't get something done, this go round, I may just give it up.
You talking about the oil field? Or days off for Co hunt? Hope your talking about hunt time off...
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/14/15 02:07 PM
Days off for the hunt. Things are competitive, but steady, out here.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/14/15 02:14 PM
Good deal. Good you could even get the time off with the slowdown
Don't give up grasshopper, it will happen, just be ready when it does, could happen "fast". Besides, you have let a couple walk last year iirc, so you aren't batting 0% in my book.
I don't go there to trophy hunt, I make the call at the time. If I wanted a guaranteed stud, I'd cough up the big cash to get on Private land as well. Even though there are odds at a stud on PubliceL, I take it for what it is and if I go home with a 4x4, I'm OK with it if that's the opportunity I chose..DIY is tough, but you sure have a stronger feeling of accomplishment IMO.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/14/15 03:12 PM
I passed on one, and he wasn't bad at all. Solid 5 or small 6, I would guess. I would have been happy with him, but I thought one of my greenhorns was around the corner and I could get them on it. Didn't work out. I'll be sure to keep at least one hunter with me at all times to make sure that doesn't happen again. Or, I just won't pass up the shot. I have a good one on the wall from up there, and I can shoot enough whitetail to get me through the year, so it's not a big deal to pass one up if I think I can get someone on it that's never taken one before. I learned a lot when I put a group together last year. I feel a lot better about getting things done this year.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/14/15 03:37 PM
I hear you. It is great to see a look on a guys face when he actually walks up to his first bull, the size is always whats gets them, even me to this day.
I have learned from experience, if you pass up on one, you likely missed the opportunity, not always, but a majority of the time. The guy "around the corner" probably had as much odds of seeing something as you did, just hunting free range migratory big game.. Edit to add, Private land not as bad.
For all you know, the dominoes may fall in line and you fellas have to figure out how to move 4-6 bulls opening morning, talk about sore!
Now that's what interest me. A fella willing to share. Like I said I've read all 58 pages now of this thread and it gets my heart pounding. Yep, I would be a greenhorn to the elk and wouldn't mind a bit joining to the hip. A solid 5/small 6 or choice would be fine with me for my first. I wish you guys best of luck, travel and weather. I'll be watching and looking for the 2016 Group when it starts.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/14/15 07:13 PM
It's too much fun not to do every year.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/14/15 07:32 PM
It's too much fun not to do every year.
Amen to that.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/14/15 07:33 PM
Now that's what interest me. A fella willing to share. Like I said I've read all 58 pages now of this thread and it gets my heart pounding. Yep, I would be a greenhorn to the elk and wouldn't mind a bit joining to the hip. A solid 5/small 6 or choice would be fine with me for my first. I wish you guys best of luck, travel and weather. I'll be watching and looking for the 2016 Group when it starts.
They haven't left yet? No better time to start going than now.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/14/15 07:34 PM
It's too much fun not to do every year.
Amen to that.
X1000
They haven't left yet? No better time to start going than now.[/quote]
Western,
Wish I could go but too many irons in the fire right now.... but you never know. Been thinking life is too short lately and need to get on with some of these hunts.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/15/15 12:06 AM
There's a spot open if you want it.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/15/15 12:20 AM
You should go. That way I could ride share with someone...
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/15/15 01:20 AM
I found and joined this forum in Sept of last year. I started to read the post on the 2014 hunt and wanted to go so bad. But I was out of the country and not able to get back in time, ever since then I have been planning on making this trip. I too work oilfield and we are actually very busy (knock on wood). My advice for "always ready 2 hunt" is to live up to that screen name and take the plunge. I regret it all the time that I was not able to be home last year. It is going to take a major crap storm to keep me from going this year.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/15/15 05:21 PM
I added a new piece of equipment. A CPAP machine is on my list. I'm hoping I can run it all night on an inverter and mt truck battery w/o too much of a drain. I'll bring jumper cables just in case!
Did four miles at Mohican State Part. Not the Rocky's but a good leg workout none the less.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/15/15 09:55 PM
I have learned from experience, if you pass up on one, you likely missed the opportunity, not always, but a majority of the time.
I read a short list of things to do to make a successful hunt. They said if you see something you'd shoot on the last day before that
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/15/15 10:15 PM
That leg work will pay off. You won't know the difference when that thin air hits you and you aren't sure if there's enough oxygen in the vicinity for the whole group of us, but you will be better off, anyway.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/15/15 10:25 PM
I have learned from experience, if you pass up on one, you likely missed the opportunity, not always, but a majority of the time.
I read a short list of things to do to make a successful hunt. They said if you see something you'd shoot on the last day before that
All I can tell you is don't pass up anything you'd be happy with.
I doubt I'd shoot a 4 point opening morning of a 9 day hunt, but I've killed elk before. On my first bull hunt, I sure would have. Now, I prefer something decent, or better, as long as I have other ways to fill my freezer. For the beginner or any meat hunter, I strongly recommend any legal bull. Shooting even a smaller bull is really something.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/15/15 11:14 PM
My dad has a 5x5 hanging up in their house, and I told myself I would shoot a 5x5 or bigger. But since I've never shot an elk, not sure what I would do if a 4x4 was standing right there calling my name lol.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/15/15 11:48 PM
My dad has a 5x5 hanging up in their house, and I told myself I would shoot a 5x5 or bigger. But since I've never shot an elk, not sure what I would do if a 4x4 was standing right there calling my name lol.
count pts and as soon as you hit 4....shoot. Set back take a deep breath and let it soak in, for that rare day you beat the mountain.
That mountain going to beat you more times then you will beat it.... But that's ok, why it's a mountain. Most importantly don't forget to thank it by taking every second all in.
Sept needs to hurry up, I need a recharge and some redemption.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/15/15 11:51 PM
I have no doubt that mountain will kick my rear end. lol. I'm going to soak it all in, and hopefully bring a little something back home. If anything, I'm taking my wife's new fancy camera with me and will get at least some camera shots in.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/15/15 11:55 PM
My dad has a 5x5 hanging up in their house, and I told myself I would shoot a 5x5 or bigger. But since I've never shot an elk, not sure what I would do if a 4x4 was standing right there calling my name lol.
count pts and as soon as you hit 4....shoot. Set back take a deep breath and let it soak in, for that rare day you beat the mountain.
That mountain going to beat you more times then you will beat it.... But that's ok, why it's a mountain. Most importantly don't forget to thank it by taking every second all in.
Sept needs to hurry up, I need a recharge and some redemption.
It can't get here soon enough. I'm going through all my gear right now. Going to be a long two months.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/15/15 11:57 PM
I have no doubt that mountain will kick my rear end. lol. I'm going to soak it all in, and hopefully bring a little something back home. If anything, I'm taking my wife's new fancy camera with me and will get at least some camera shots in.
becareful it can come some what obsessive... In fact I leave tomorrow to go on vacation......(and scout in CO) .
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/15/15 11:57 PM
I have no doubt that mountain will kick my rear end. lol. I'm going to soak it all in, and hopefully bring a little something back home. If anything, I'm taking my wife's new fancy camera with me and will get at least some camera shots in.
You can wear out a new camera up there. Every view demands attention. I may bring my wife's SLR, this year. With the extended stay, I may have time to take some pictures.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/15/15 11:58 PM
It can't get here soon enough. I'm going through all my gear right now. Going to be a long two months.
I haven't started getting my gear together yet due to feeling that once I do get it all in one place, it'll seem like a year until October rolls around.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/15/15 11:59 PM
My dad has a 5x5 hanging up in their house, and I told myself I would shoot a 5x5 or bigger. But since I've never shot an elk, not sure what I would do if a 4x4 was standing right there calling my name lol.
count pts and as soon as you hit 4....shoot. Set back take a deep breath and let it soak in, for that rare day you beat the mountain.
That mountain going to beat you more times then you will beat it.... But that's ok, why it's a mountain. Most importantly don't forget to thank it by taking every second all in.
Sept needs to hurry up, I need a recharge and some redemption.
It can't get here soon enough. I'm going through all my gear right now. Going to be a long two months.
Yelp, think I have packed and re-packed twice already.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/16/15 12:00 AM
Solid thinking. You're exactly right. I just couldn't help myself, though. I came home from 3 weeks of work. I just needed a taste.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/16/15 12:02 AM
My dad has a 5x5 hanging up in their house, and I told myself I would shoot a 5x5 or bigger. But since I've never shot an elk, not sure what I would do if a 4x4 was standing right there calling my name lol.
You'll shimmy and shake, that's what. Then, if you can contain yourself, you'll shoot. I don't allow newbies to pass up shots.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/16/15 12:06 AM
Haha I'm sure if a 4x4 or any legal bull walks out I may change my statement about having to have a5x5 or bigger.
Do you have interchangeable lenses for your camera? If so what lens do you typically take? Not sure if I should bring the big one or little one, or even both?
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/16/15 12:06 AM
I have scoured this year and last years post and transferred a list of all recomended gear to a spread sheet, gone through and highlighted what I already have and am accumulating what I don't. I am offshore right now so Amazon shopping is too easy. I barely touch my computer when I am home, but out here I am on it all day every day.
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/16/15 12:08 AM
Oh and I don't plan on shooting anything with milk still on his lip (i know not legal anyway) but I will be taking the first legal bull I see.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/16/15 12:24 AM
I wouldnt get hung up on what someone else has taken, it is public land and you never know what will come through, but you can second guess yourself to death. The odds are stacked big time, iirc the success rate over all elk seasons in less than 20%. This is why outfitted hunts an private land access is so expensive ( better odds when on undisturbed and improved habitat).
I go for the whole experience, almost like a religious rite ( BOBO knows what I mean), I want a record bull, but I have gone for so long, I understand the reality of it. Seen to many pass a nice meat covered legal bull and then beat themselves up over it. IMO forget the photos on the magazines and go with the intent of creating great memories, hope for the 400"er, but take what makes you content. There is no shame in taking 2-400 pounds of meat home and a set of antler, that will still be beautiful on the mantel.
I have even seen a few throw a tantrum over passing/missing a bull, one of the reasons I now go by myself so much, don't care for that drama.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/16/15 12:25 AM
Haha I'm sure if a 4x4 or any legal bull walks out I may change my statement about having to have a5x5 or bigger.
Do you have interchangeable lenses for your camera? If so what lens do you typically take? Not sure if I should bring the big one or little one, or even both?
Yes. It's a Nikon, so whatever they take. We have a couple different sized lenses. Midrange stuff. Most pictures will be landscape type shots. A high zoom lense would be good for wildlife.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/16/15 12:30 AM
Oh and I don't plan on shooting anything with milk still on his lip (i know not legal anyway) but I will be taking the first legal bull I see.
Then you will have a blast, you have already passed one of the big hurdles IMO.
Posted By: basschump
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/16/15 02:37 AM
This is an awesome thread/hunt. Wish I could join y'all. Job, kids and distance makes it hard. I was lucky enough to go on an OTC archery hunt in southern CO in 2008. Saw very few elk, but two of the four in our group had shots at 5x5's inside 30 yards. I still think about being in the high country for a week. It's awesome country and a tremendous experience. You guys stay focused, get in shape and kill some elk.
Posted By: Shawheel
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/16/15 03:11 AM
I'll be pulling for you guys when I'm up in the middle of the night with the new bundle of joy. Everybody get a big one, but leave a few for me next year!
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/16/15 03:13 AM
I'll be pulling for you guys when I'm up in the middle of the night with the new bundle of joy. Everybody get a big one, but leave a few for me next year!
Good reason to head to the mountains.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/16/15 03:40 AM
Haha I'm sure if a 4x4 or any legal bull walks out I may change my statement about having to have a5x5 or bigger.
Do you have interchangeable lenses for your camera? If so what lens do you typically take? Not sure if I should bring the big one or little one, or even both?
Thought it was 6x6 or bust...
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/16/15 03:50 AM
yeah buddy
Posted By: Shawheel
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/16/15 04:08 AM
I'll be pulling for you guys when I'm up in the middle of the night with the new bundle of joy. Everybody get a big one, but leave a few for me next year!
Good reason to head to the mountains.
Maybe if you want to see a guy go from zero to divorced in 4.2 seconds.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/16/15 04:54 AM
I'll be pulling for you guys when I'm up in the middle of the night with the new bundle of joy. Everybody get a big one, but leave a few for me next year!
Good reason to head to the mountains.
Maybe if you want to see a guy go from zero to divorced in 4.2 seconds.
next year would be open too
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/16/15 11:29 AM
Sneaky, as one ages time flys by. I hope I can get ready in time! Also I think I have to wait til I get there for the OTC license. I still have a health issue that could interfere plus I don't want the license to be in the mail to Ohio when I am headed west..
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/16/15 01:13 PM
Joe, I always wait and get my tag when I get there, never know what will pop up in the mean time.
You can even get a tag after opening day, you just have to get it at the DOW office, there is one in Durango.
Hope your health improves.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/16/15 01:16 PM
Joe, I always wait and get my tag when I get there, never know what will pop up in the mean time.
You can even get a tag after opening day, you just have to get it at the DOW office, there is one in Durango.
Hope your health improves.
Walmart also... Hint though don't use your Cabelas card at 5am there.... Cell phone reception is terrible in Sporting goods.
I almost broke up with cabelas that morning. Thankfully Walmart Has a land line at the counter.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/16/15 01:42 PM
BOBO, you where able to get one there after the opener????
I know that Walmart, bought my licenses there a few times and have worked on that store in the past (4 years ago iirc). Easy purchases if you get there in the late night hrs, it is dead when the kids are all in school.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/16/15 01:55 PM
Sneaky, as one ages time flys by. I hope I can get ready in time! Also I think I have to wait til I get there for the OTC license. I still have a health issue that could interfere plus I don't want the license to be in the mail to Ohio when I am headed west..
That's fine. Leaving when you are, you'll have plenty of time.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/16/15 01:57 PM
I planned on buying the Friday morning before... Any issue?
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/16/15 02:06 PM
I planned on buying the Friday morning before... Any issue?
Be as early as possible to avoid a line and you will be GTG
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/16/15 02:46 PM
I planned on buying the Friday morning before... Any issue?
As long as you're in Colorado when you do it, you'll be fine.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/16/15 02:50 PM
And bring my hunter safety card with me
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/16/15 03:00 PM
Oh, yeah, did we discuss that, yet? If you don't have a hunter's safety card, you better get one. Whether you just need a replacement card or the whole class, get it. The cut off date to be grandfathered in is about 20 years earlier up there than it is down here. I'm not sure if Chief Joe is old enough to be grandfathered in, but I doubt anyone else is.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/16/15 03:37 PM
Do this if you have time.
Go into the DOW office in Durango, have your state HE card and SS card. Tell them you would like them to mark your account as "verified". They will store your info under your SID/CC and every license you get in Colorado from then on wont require your HE card, it will be printed "HE Verified" on your licenses, from then on. Even if you loose your card, you're GTG.
Takes about 5 minutes at the DOW office.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/16/15 04:15 PM
I assume a Texas hunter safety card would work...
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/16/15 04:23 PM
BOBO, you where able to get one there after the opener????
I know that Walmart, bought my licenses there a few times and have worked on that store in the past (4 years ago iirc). Easy purchases if you get there in the late night hrs, it is dead when the kids are all in school.
Got no idea on that one. Only hunted archery season last few year and last week of season at that.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/16/15 04:25 PM
I assume a Texas hunter safety card would work...
No gotty, no license.
They don't mess around. Best to go to Dept of wildlife office and get it on file.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/16/15 04:28 PM
I've just touched down in a top secret location. Going to have to go radio silence until next week.
Suppose to be 41 in the morning.... I hope I don't caught a cold
:
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/16/15 04:30 PM
slid in there sideways didya!
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/16/15 04:36 PM
slid in there sideways didya!
Us west tx boys typically come in hot. After a while you just get us to it
Pretty sure a nation within a nation scrambled jets on us
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/16/15 04:41 PM
Heard rumor you need to head North and look between the 2 big reservoirs.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/16/15 05:08 PM
I assume a Texas hunter safety card would work...
Yes. Just make sure the number can be read. They'll want that.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/16/15 06:36 PM
Heard rumor you need to head North and look between the 2 big reservoirs.
Southbound
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/16/15 09:07 PM
Good luck at the casinos.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/16/15 10:06 PM
Got the mountain bike up and running. Raced the boys. I don't think they're regretting losing as much as I am winning.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/16/15 11:18 PM
I'm not sure if Chief Joe is old enough to be grandfathered in, but I doubt anyone else is.
I'm old enough to be grandfathered into most everything!
1947
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/16/15 11:30 PM
Yeah, you're good to go.
Posted By: JSims
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/17/15 12:17 AM
I ordered my boots and pack this week. I can't wait to get back up there. I'm in the Temple area. Who else is close that is considering going?
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/17/15 12:19 AM
JSims, I'm in temple. Are you planning to go with us?
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/17/15 12:21 AM
How many are we up to now?
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/17/15 12:25 AM
If I forget someone, I appologize, but I think these are the ones in for sure:
Sneaky
Chief Joe
Cleric
Deep sea and friend maybe?
PMK (my dad)
Myself
So 7-8
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/17/15 12:30 AM
Jerrod Carroll was planning on it.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/17/15 12:47 AM
Creekrunner officially bailed?
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/17/15 12:48 AM
Jarrod Carroll? I only know people's screen names lol
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/17/15 12:53 AM
Creekrunner officially bailed?
"Bailed" is such a harsh term.
I prefer "plate too full". I wish all the guys good hunting and will miss being there, but I know myself and I'm gonna freak after being gone for 2&1/2 weeks prior and I'll need to catch up.
Posted By: JSims
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/17/15 12:59 AM
JSims, I'm in temple. Are you planning to go with us?
Yes sir. My dad owns a house in Dolores and some friends and I are going to call that home base. We will probably camp a few nights on the mountain but people are more than welcome to shower and relax at the house if needs be.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/17/15 01:17 AM
House in Dolores!! Now that would be too easy
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/17/15 01:19 AM
Very nice!
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/17/15 01:23 AM
JSims, I'm in temple. Are you planning to go with us?
Yes sir. My dad owns a house in Dolores and some friends and I are going to call that home base. We will probably camp a few nights on the mountain but people are more than welcome to shower and relax at the house if needs be.
A house.......in Dolores?
You are going next year and the year after that, and after that.
Enjoy guys and good hunting. I will be putting in for time off next month for next year so I am in for sure. I'll look forward to seeing some pics and hearing some good stories.
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/17/15 01:24 AM
"Dad, I invited some guys on the internet to the house."
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/17/15 01:25 AM
"Dad, I invited some guys on the internet to the house."
Posted By: JSims
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/17/15 01:29 AM
Did I say Dolores??? I meant Durango.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/17/15 01:30 AM
Jarrod Carroll? I only know people's screen names lol
That is his screen name.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/17/15 01:31 AM
JSims, I'm in temple. Are you planning to go with us?
Yes sir. My dad owns a house in Dolores and some friends and I are going to call that home base. We will probably camp a few nights on the mountain but people are more than welcome to shower and relax at the house if needs be.
I'll take you up on that shower. Did I mention that you're invited?
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/17/15 01:34 AM
JSims, I'm in temple. Are you planning to go with us?
Yes sir. My dad owns a house in Dolores and some friends and I are going to call that home base. We will probably camp a few nights on the mountain but people are more than welcome to shower and relax at the house if needs be.
A house.......in Dolores?
You are going next year and the year after that, and after that.
Enjoy guys and good hunting. I will be putting in for time off next month for next year so I am in for sure. I'll look forward to seeing some pics and hearing some good stories.
Good. Creekrunner is going next year, too, whether he has permission or not.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/17/15 01:34 AM
So what's the total number at than?
Posted By: JSims
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/17/15 01:35 AM
JSims, I'm in temple. Are you planning to go with us?
Yes sir. My dad owns a house in Dolores and some friends and I are going to call that home base. We will probably camp a few nights on the mountain but people are more than welcome to shower and relax at the house if needs be.
I'll take you up on that shower. Did I mention that you're invited?
showers are only available after I tag out.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/17/15 01:37 AM
So what's the total number at than?
7 + JSims group.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/17/15 01:39 AM
Yes sir. My dad owns a house in Dolores and some friends and I are going to call that home base. We will probably camp a few nights on the mountain but people are more than welcome to shower and relax at the house if needs be.
I'll take you up on that shower. Did I mention that you're invited?
showers are only available after I tag out.
Look who just gained top priority on the best spot.
Posted By: JSims
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/17/15 01:46 AM
Yes sir. My dad owns a house in Dolores and some friends and I are going to call that home base. We will probably camp a few nights on the mountain but people are more than welcome to shower and relax at the house if needs be.
I'll take you up on that shower. Did I mention that you're invited?
showers are only available after I tag out.
Look who just gained top priority on the best spot.
Haha. My friends and I are doing this as a learning experience to go back in the future to bow hunt. I don't mind sharing the shower and other resources to get the experience. We are looking forward to meeting everyone and making some new friends.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/17/15 01:52 AM
Sneaky, you almost have a full squad!! By season, you may have a Platoon!
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/17/15 01:56 AM
Did I say Dolores??? I meant Durango.
You are fired..... lol
Posted By: JSims
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/17/15 01:57 AM
I think "my group" will consist of 4-7 hunters (just for the record".
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/17/15 02:10 AM
Sounds good. We may have at least a football team, anyway.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/17/15 02:34 AM
Sounds good. We may have at least a football team, anyway.
With a few subs...
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/17/15 02:52 AM
With that many fellas, y'all are going to need a camp counselor!
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/17/15 02:53 AM
With that many fellas, y'all are going to need a camp counselor!
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/17/15 02:56 AM
Errbody wants to rough it until there's a shower available.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/17/15 03:00 AM
With that many fellas, y'all are going to need a camp counselor!
And how does that make you feel?
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/17/15 11:53 AM
With that many fellas, y'all are going to need a camp counselor!
They'll need that, anyway.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/17/15 12:13 PM
With that many fellas, y'all are going to need a camp counselor!
They'll need that, anyway.
It will be welcome help when you get some bulls down for sure!
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/17/15 02:19 PM
Nice 53degree mountain sunrise this morning......
. Just a little motivation for yall.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/17/15 03:00 PM
Dang BOBO, cliff hunting?? Fine looking "meadow", Is that Private? looks like irrigation pipe.
Country sure looks in great shape too!
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/17/15 03:19 PM
I'm motivated.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/17/15 08:24 PM
Dang BOBO, cliff hunting?? Fine looking "meadow", Is that Private? looks like irrigation pipe.
Country sure looks in great shape too!
But yes the country is in really good shape.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/17/15 09:41 PM
Dang BOBO, cliff hunting?? Fine looking "meadow", Is that Private? looks like irrigation pipe.
Country sure looks in great shape too!
But yes the country is in really good shape.
Well, was hoping for coordinates
Will watch for smoke,that may give up your location
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/17/15 09:42 PM
I am getting more and more excited. Just got things to do/buy to prepare
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/17/15 09:46 PM
I am getting more and more excited. Just got things to do/buy to prepare
It will sure be worth the wait. I have gone many years and lived there for a few, I still am in awe of the beauty and scope of those mountains.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/17/15 09:55 PM
Dang BOBO, cliff hunting?? Fine looking "meadow", Is that Private? looks like irrigation pipe.
Country sure looks in great shape too!
But yes the country is in really good shape.
Well, was hoping for coordinates
Will watch for smoke,that may give up your location
Aaaaahahahaha! 6.7 smoke signals?
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/17/15 09:56 PM
I am getting more and more excited. Just got things to do/buy to prepare
You have a lot to be excited about. I don't know of anything else that compares.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/17/15 10:46 PM
agree! I have been many years in the past and it was always something I looked forward to each year, all year long getting ready for the next trip up. After the first couple of times, I got a lot more serious about getting in better shape before going to the altitude! I am starting building on my distance daily now, I strongly suggest the rest who are going to do similar.
Posted By: JSims
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/17/15 10:47 PM
I was just there two weeks ago and am really looking forward to going back. Out of all of the places that I have ever been, SW Colorado is still my favorite.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/17/15 11:15 PM
At least I started the work outs already...I need to advance on that front too
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/18/15 04:49 AM
Dang BOBO, cliff hunting?? Fine looking "meadow", Is that Private? looks like irrigation pipe.
Country sure looks in great shape too!
But yes the country is in really good shape.
Well, was hoping for coordinates
Will watch for smoke,that may give up your location
Lol you donkey!!!! no but I may move locations and extend this trip. Expanding my search....
http://www.ksl.com/?sid=36006785&nid=1288&fm=home_page&s_cid=toppick2
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/18/15 04:51 AM
Dang BOBO, cliff hunting?? Fine looking "meadow", Is that Private? looks like irrigation pipe.
Country sure looks in great shape too!
But yes the country is in really good shape.
Well, was hoping for coordinates
Will watch for smoke,that may give up your location
Aaaaahahahaha! 6.7 smoke signals?
Et tu, Brute?
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/18/15 05:17 AM
BOBO, we call'm as we smell'm
You just scouting elk, or primarily deer.....Yeah I forgot...
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/18/15 05:25 AM
Sorry. I couldn't help but laugh at that one.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/18/15 05:48 AM
Sneaky, there are so many fires burning out West, going to be hard to know which one BOBO is responsible for......
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/18/15 11:05 AM
I just ordered a Frogg Toggs rain suit for the trip. Hoping it stays in the truck!
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/18/15 11:45 AM
It's a good thing to have. I keep mine in my pack in case I need it.
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/18/15 11:59 AM
Mountain rain showers - they quit as soon as you dig out the rain gear, put it on and zip it up.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/18/15 12:12 PM
That's why I carry it. To make it go away.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/18/15 01:25 PM
I plan to pack mine as well. Back in the boy scout days, we went on a backpacking trip to Philmont in Cimarron, NM and the rain storms would come out of nowhere. Like Creekrunner said they were typically short lived, but we did sit through an hour long hail storm one day. Talk about not fun...
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/18/15 01:31 PM
Mountain rain showers - they quit as soon as you dig out the rain gear, put it on and zip it up.
I use to say that, then one year... Finally saw the sun five days later.. I upped my raingear game the next year.
Grant it Murphy's law will state it won't happen again as long as I have it in my pack.
But I've also only hunted sept for last 7 years
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/18/15 01:34 PM
Ok, just bought out Amazon! All the things on my list that I didnt' already have or that was food has just been ordered.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/18/15 01:35 PM
I dealt with a good downpour in NM with no rain gear. That wasn't bad. What was bad was the slip that cracked the wood handle on my bow over my head. Literally cracked the wood. Nearly knocked me out.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/18/15 01:47 PM
I carried one for years, but you usually will have to deal with snow that time of year. I kept a small emergency size one in pack up to about 5 years ago, it is probably 15 years old and never been used. Folded, it is about as big as a wallet I guess. I always thought it may help if I ever needed to have some kind of cover for a night, like draped over a wood pole.
I need to treat my coat and bibs again though, I always have those on and they take most of the moisture.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/18/15 02:22 PM
BOBO, how far are you from the bean fields near Egnar?
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/18/15 02:57 PM
BOBO, how far are you from the bean fields near Egnar?
You ain't giving up are you...lol
I'll give you one hint. I saw a pair of ducks earlier
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/18/15 03:05 PM
Just curious, I know you can see the La Salles from where you are, I can as well where I hunt.
Should be seeing some geese, they sure have got thick in the last 20-30 years, many stay and never go further north now.
BTW, seeing any prospects for your hunt? Should be some nice animals in the higher country with all the great range conditions.
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/18/15 03:14 PM
If the geese are there, I guess all the cranes stay in the SL valley.
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/18/15 03:15 PM
Bobo..I do have access to vouchers in 70 and I need an express from Norwood to Houston.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/18/15 03:33 PM
Just curious, I know you can see the La Salles from where you are, I can as well where I hunt.
Should be seeing some geese, they sure have got thick in the last 20-30 years, many stay and never go further north now.
BTW, seeing any prospects for your hunt? Should be some nice animals in the higher country with all the great range conditions.
I might or might not be able to see those mountains from up top
Put it this way they ain't down low right now!!!
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/18/15 03:34 PM
Bobo..I do have access to vouchers in 70 and I need an express from Norwood to Houston.
I'm Actually most likely lost
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/18/15 03:39 PM
Lucky you..also have access to 1 archery bull voucher for there.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/18/15 03:46 PM
Lucky you..also have access to 1 archery bull voucher for there.
Ha got one already if I want it. They want stupid money for them. Well guess stupid money is relative
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/18/15 04:23 PM
Bobo..I do have access to vouchers in 70 and I need an express from Norwood to Houston.
"aint" no elk in Norwood, they are all in Redvale
Or try Nucla
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/18/15 04:26 PM
Lucky you..also have access to 1 archery bull voucher for there.
Ha got one already if I want it. They want stupid money for them. Well guess stupid money is relative
was $6500 last year, but that 10% PLO 10% UW scheme screwed the prices up on the unit wide ones. Those suckers JUMPED!
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/18/15 04:34 PM
$6500!!
There are a couple lodges in that unit that don't charge that much I beleive
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/18/15 04:35 PM
Bobo..I do have access to vouchers in 70 and I need an express from Norwood to Houston.
"aint" no elk in Norwood, they are all in Redvale
Or try Nucla
admittedly, Norwood is more of a 4th season, slaughter area.
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/18/15 04:39 PM
$6500!!
There are a couple lodges in that unit that don't charge that much I beleive
I can stay in a fully furnished, 2 story, 4b/2B w/ wash/dry stream side cabin & eat prime rib & pancakes at a hi$ steakhouse for 9 days for less than that, but it doesn't get me a top tier unit bull tag.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/18/15 04:50 PM
$6500!!
There are a couple lodges in that unit that don't charge that much I beleive
I can stay in a fully furnished, 2 story, 4b/2B w/ wash/dry stream side cabin & eat prime rib & pancakes at a hi$ steakhouse for 9 days for less than that, but it doesn't get me a top tier unit bull tag.
I hear you, Think I'd take the cabin over the "hopes" of a top tier bull. If I wanted a monster bull and HAD THE CASH, I wouldn't even hunt that area, probably not even in CO.
Your right about 4th season, weather depending of course. I have had to stop for them crossing the road in early winters near there (by the fields and in the canyon to Telluride)
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/18/15 05:17 PM
Lucky you..also have access to 1 archery bull voucher for there.
Ha got one already if I want it. They want stupid money for them. Well guess stupid money is relative
was $6500 last year, but that 10% PLO 10% UW scheme screwed the prices up on the unit wide ones. Those suckers JUMPED!
Well guess this offer is s steal them. 6k
Hell you can get a Gila or 17 tag for 6.5k
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/18/15 05:30 PM
It's a volume hunt. Odds are finding a good bull are better just bc of the numbers, but lots of 260-300 bulls to sort through. Really is high for the size, but that's Colorado for you with only a handful of hi% elk units. I'm not complaining though since I'd prefer all units be OTC for elk.
Be dang sure it's unit wide, figuring out a lot of LOs don't know what they have.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/18/15 05:45 PM
It's a volume hunt. Odds are finding a good bull are better just bc of the numbers, but lots of 260-300 bulls to sort through. Really is high for the size, but that's Colorado for you with only a handful of hi% elk units. I'm not complaining though since I'd prefer all units be OTC for elk.
Be dang sure it's unit wide, figuring out a lot of LOs don't know what they have.
you can get them to switch it to bull or buck only then it's unit wide. Either sex tags are Ranch specific
Not paying 6500 for a CO elk tag. That's a waste of money
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/18/15 06:55 PM
It's a volume hunt. Odds are finding a good bull are better just bc of the numbers, but lots of 260-300 bulls to sort through. Really is high for the size, but that's Colorado for you with only a handful of hi% elk units. I'm not complaining though since I'd prefer all units be OTC for elk.
Be dang sure it's unit wide, figuring out a lot of LOs don't know what they have.
you can get them to switch it to bull or buck only then it's unit wide. Either sex tags are Ranch specific
Not paying 6500 for a CO elk tag. That's a waste of money
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/19/15 01:30 AM
That is awfully steep when there's better tags for the same money.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/19/15 02:59 PM
I was planning to wait a while before I started packing, but all you stinkin' early packers got the best of me.
This trip just got a lot more real!
Only a few small things to get here and there and the packing should be 99% done, excluding food. Worst part about it is waiting for the new scope to show up and the new rifle to be finished. At this point, I'm just hoping those two big pieces to the puzzle show up before the hunt. Scope should be in by hopefully early September (so I've been told) and gun by late September/early October. It'll be cutting it close but hopefully I'll have time to get it all dialed in.
If not, the good ol' 30-06 will be my primary.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/19/15 04:31 PM
ZK, 06 will get the job done no doubt, so you are good either way. You could go get your dad packed up to help with the jitters, bet he'd love the help
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/19/15 04:36 PM
lol I'm sure i'll be helping him with packing. I need to get down there and go over that cab-over with him to figure out all the quirks to it and see what does and doesn't work.
I wasn't worried about the 06 knocking one down, I just have the jitters waiting on the new gun (7mm WSM) to arrive. It'll give me the chance to put the 06 2nd in line
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/19/15 04:55 PM
I got a new toy from horizon firearms. I need to get a load development done.
I need to start small in terms of packing
Going to do field bag first. Than camping gear. Than clothes. Than food
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/19/15 04:56 PM
Lets see this new toy!
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/19/15 05:02 PM
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/19/15 05:11 PM
http://texashuntingforum.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/5805147/Re:_Few_more_Customs_on_their_#Post5805147
Top 300 in kryptek stock
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/19/15 05:11 PM
I do need some blaze orange....
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/19/15 05:13 PM
(but I also have my driver's license, hunter education card and SS card in my wallet ... do NOT forget those items unless you just want to site see)
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/19/15 05:16 PM
Dad has wisdom
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/19/15 05:17 PM
Dad has wisdom
He forgot bino's
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/19/15 05:20 PM
Dad has wisdom
He forgot bino's
Got ok binos but bringing the razor 11-33
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/19/15 05:25 PM
Dad has wisdom
He forgot bino's
With a bad azz scope BOBO, you can scope'm
I have been "scoped" by many a moron up there, a few I have been able to "speak too".....
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/19/15 05:42 PM
I'm going to watch you unpack so I can laugh when you forget something.
I already know I'm going to forget something. Doesn't matter if I'm going there, the deer lease, vacation, work....I always forget one item. Usually a pillow.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/19/15 05:56 PM
Dad, I'm just waiting to see how much "fluff" you decide to pack
Cleric, Sweet looking rig!
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/19/15 05:56 PM
A pillow, really
Now that is a piece of critical hardware! whats wrong with you???
Sneaky, just tell your wife to pack you like she doesn't want you back, you"ll be GTG
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/19/15 06:13 PM
That would just get her hopes up.
I don't really need a pillow to sleep in my truck, anyway. Talk about fluff.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/19/15 06:16 PM
Your using a tent on this trip though..right? Good nights sleep often can make or break a 10 day hunt, if you stretch the season that long. Of course you're killing out on the opener, so you will be fine.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/19/15 06:19 PM
Truck. I sleep as well there as anywhere. I have access to a bed at work for 8 hours a day, and I rarely sleep in it, I'm so used to sleeping in the driver's seat of a pickup.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/19/15 06:21 PM
ya'll laugh but you will have to understand I took about 10 or so trips to CO or NM with my FIL who was raised in a traveling silent movie theater/carnival, town to town ... he packed everything he owned and then some for a 10 day hunting trip to CO/NM ... ZK can confirm his packrat papaw. Some of the stories I could tell about those trips would make ya'll hurt yourself laughing so hard, while I would just sit back and SMH in total dismay at some of the stuff he would bring.
Bobo, yes binos can be handy but can become excess ballast quickly depending on where Sneaky drags us into. I hunted the first 40 or so years with garbage hand me down binos (almost useless), so when I got a good pair I was in hog heaven but I can still glass the other side of a canyon/meadow with my scope. I will have the fluff binos the first day, the second depends on how the lungs & legs do the 1st day unless I am busy packing out
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/19/15 06:24 PM
^^that's the truth!
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/19/15 06:29 PM
That reminds me. With so much time to hunt, we may as well check out Priest Gulch. Maybe start at one end and hunt to the other.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/19/15 06:56 PM
you can start at the bottom near the campground and I will hang out up top to give you a ride back to camp when you are done
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/19/15 07:06 PM
That's not how it works. Can't kill elk from the pickup.
Red Bull helps. A six pack a day should keep you going.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/19/15 07:22 PM
actually you can kill elk from the truck ... just not very likely!
I have a short FIL story on one of our trips. We were camped southeast from Bayfield, Salt Creek area, FIL road horse back to camp around noon to get a bite to eat, mother nature called on him, he leaned his rifle up against the camp trailer, went about 15-20 feet away into a clump of small head high pines to do his business. As he gets all set up, his horse (stud) starts nickering and he starts hearing noises, a small herd of 12-15 elk came barreling THRU camp, between him and the camper with a decent 5x5 in the group. Needless to say, he made quite a mess of himself trying to get his insulated coveralls pulled up to a point he could hobble to the camper to grab his gun but the herd was way to far gone for a shot. He never leaned his rifle up against anything that wasn't within his arms reach afterwards.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/19/15 07:37 PM
Tough lesson learned.
I leaned my rifle against a tree to do the same. Got a couple hundred yards down the mountain before I realized something was missing.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/19/15 08:27 PM
Tough lesson learned.
I leaned my rifle against a tree to do the same. Got a couple hundred yards down the mountain before I realized something was missing.
At least you had a pillow
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/19/15 10:11 PM
I was planning to wait a while before I started packing, but all you stinkin' early packers got the best of me.
This trip just got a lot more real!
Only a few small things to get here and there and the packing should be 99% done, excluding food. Worst part about it is waiting for the new scope to show up and the new rifle to be finished. At this point, I'm just hoping those two big pieces to the puzzle show up before the hunt. Scope should be in by hopefully early September (so I've been told) and gun by late September/early October. It'll be cutting it close but hopefully I'll have time to get it all dialed in.
If not, the good ol' 30-06 will be my primary.
I hope you didn't buy the scope from OpticPlanet. I am 20 weeks out and counting for mine. Called them yesterday and their response was, "any day now". Uh huh, sure. I won't hold my breath.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/19/15 10:30 PM
20 weeks!!! Ah hell no.....
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/20/15 02:06 PM
License arrived this morning. I'm legal now.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/20/15 02:17 PM
License arrived this morning. I'm legal now.
No excuses not to go now bud, it is "fer real"
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/20/15 02:19 PM
This cool weather this morning, sure put my brain in a higher drive. OK, starting to get a little exited, not going to lie.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/20/15 02:24 PM
You bet.
Yeah, I felt that last night. I could feel summer leaving and fall coming. It was lovely.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/20/15 02:31 PM
Got cooler here yesterday, but when we got that tiny shower last night, WOW.
Now everything I have put off in the heat, seems insurmountable to get done before I head north to use my tag. I have to remove one water holding tank on the toy hauler and replace the support system, I just hope the leak is a loose fitting/connection, but need to get at it in case I need to order something. Also need to wash it since I haven't in 2 years
1st worl problems ya know....
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/20/15 02:32 PM
I could feel summer leaving and fall coming. It was lovely.
I'm not feeling it. 94% humidity when I woke up this morning. Feels like a jungle. I'm putting a fan on my nether regions.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/20/15 02:35 PM
CR, maybe it will rain and lower your humidity to just 90%
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/20/15 02:45 PM
Hey, I walked 5k this morning, up and down the hills, in this soup. And I'm probably not even going to make this hunt. The wife took a picture of me standing next to my daughter when we were up in Fort Worth last weekend. I didn't recognize that fat guy standing next to my little girl.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/20/15 02:51 PM
I do love the west Texas humidity.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/20/15 02:53 PM
I do love the west Texas humidity.
You still near Winters? that considered W Texas?, more central to me
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/20/15 03:11 PM
Geographically speaking, it's almost exactly the middle. Culturally and climately speaking, it's very much west Texas.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/20/15 11:16 PM
Yeah, I felt that last night. I could feel summer leaving and fall coming. It was lovely.
I've been putting the plumbing in a friend's new house. It is on a slab. The humidity has been brutal. Today in the 70's was a real gift.
I ordered a pair on New Balance 1569 walking boots as one of my shoe options today.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/20/15 11:17 PM
License arrived this morning. I'm legal now.
I am stopping at the first Colorado Walmart to get mine, unless I can get it in Dolores?
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/20/15 11:30 PM
Joe, I use a sneaker/boot much like those and that is the way to go, I have even worn them in 18" of snow, but not optimal for that, very comfortable style shoe for Colorado Elk.
Also, there is a small store/gas station in Dolores that sells tags and some hunting stuff, 1st ,or second store on the left, across the street from the liquor store damn near.
You will probably pass through Durango, there is a Walmart there off the main road (160) of course you can get most anything you have forgot 24/7
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/21/15 12:30 AM
The Wal Mart in Durango would be easy enough, or any other you pass by. I know the store Western is talking about. That's an option, too.
Posted By: JSims
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/21/15 01:08 AM
That store in Dolores is for sale. Not real sure of the reason why, but I would get my license before that point. If they are selling because of financial strain, it may be closed by then.
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/21/15 01:27 AM
That store in Dolores is for sale. Not real sure of the reason why, but I would get my license before that point. If they are selling because of financial strain, it may be closed by then.
I will verify that. It hadn't sold as of two weeks ago, but you never know. The 24 hour Walmart in Durango or in any other major town would be my pick.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/21/15 01:31 AM
Yeah, Durango is probably your best bet.
Posted By: JSims
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/21/15 01:37 AM
That store in Dolores is for sale. Not real sure of the reason why, but I would get my license before that point. If they are selling because of financial strain, it may be closed by then.
I will verify that. It hadn't sold as of two weeks ago, but you never know. The 24 hour Walmart in Durango or in any other major town would be my pick.
I just happened to notice the for sale sign when I was there three weeks ago. Just didn't want to see anyone expecting to get a license there and get disappointed.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/21/15 08:30 AM
That walmart is in a nice quite spot too, got my tag last year, crawled in the camper and slept for 4 hrs!
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/21/15 10:20 AM
Just down the hill from there, under that high bridge, is a put in/take out spot on the Animas. We white water rafted this summer and took out there.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/21/15 10:47 AM
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/21/15 11:39 AM
That's clever. Wouldn't be legal in wilderness areas, and going down the steep places I hunt, I would be sure to get run over by the thing. But it could be pretty handy, otherwise.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/21/15 04:39 PM
Why wouldn't it be "legal"? It isn't motorized. I used a mountain bike to get to one spot, met the GW who I know, he didn't mention I was illegal, said he thought it was cleaver.
In ay event, no way do I need 80% of that stuff.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/21/15 04:50 PM
I was told that nothing with wheels, even something like a game cart, was allowed. I looked it up. I'm still not clear on it. Some say bikes are allowed. Some say they're not. Of course, some areas have their own rules. One source said that travel is restricted to foot or horseback, only.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/21/15 05:07 PM
The area I was in is posted "foot, or horse back only", but there is old roads/trails from before they fenced it off, maybe that was the difference IDK. I know there are two reasons for it, one is to lesson pressure from motorized (atv's) and the other is damage to habitat.
There are still visible ruts between Grand Junction and Montrose, as well as other places from the wagon train trail days. That country takes for ever to heal from abuse.
I bet if I was "off trail" as you mention, I would have had a problem.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/21/15 05:43 PM
Maybe so. They also have catch all rules like nothing that causes damage. That would depend a lot on who you were dealing with.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/21/15 05:51 PM
Agree and there can be a wide margin with some of them boys. One place I know that is foot or horseback only, has a gate, used by the water district big azz 4x4 trucks to open and close/monitore irrigation allotments. You know those big azz trucks don't harm nuth'n, but lawdy, catch me in there with a 2 wheel dolly!
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/21/15 07:06 PM
No kidding. They know they can stop you and still get your money.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/21/15 08:27 PM
The area I was in is posted "foot, or horse back only", but there is old roads/trails from before they fenced it off, maybe that was the difference IDK. I know there are two reasons for it, one is to lesson pressure from motorized (atv's) and the other is damage to habitat.
There are still visible ruts between Grand Junction and Montrose, as well as other places from the wagon train trail days. That country takes for ever to heal from abuse.
I bet if I was "off trail" as you mention, I would have had a problem.
And Cold War mining
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/21/15 08:49 PM
You back BOBO?
Funny, just got off the phone with my buddy, he is in the field up there right now scouting. They drew 4 ML deer tags and 2 bear.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/21/15 08:52 PM
You back BOBO?
Funny, just got off the phone with my buddy, he is in the field up there right now scouting. They drew 4 ML deer tags and 2 bear.
Not yet... Have to check out a field or two at my stomping grounds. Think I might drink the water and sue
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/21/15 09:00 PM
A little arsenic and mercury never hurt no one
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/21/15 09:01 PM
A little arsenic and mercury never hurt no one
Like me doctoring cattle cure'em or kill'em
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/21/15 09:04 PM
Yep, never prick your finer with the crap you're fixing to stick in your cows!
BTW, buddy said the greenery up high is incredible, but the acorns in the shimmery got hit by the last freezes. Good undergrowth of mountain oat and rye though
. In other words, a lot for elk to eat.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/21/15 09:05 PM
Yep, never prick your finer with the crap you're fixing to stick in your cows!
BTW, buddy said the greenery up high is incredible, but the acorns in the shimmery got hit by the last freezes. Good undergrowth of mountain oat and rye though
. In other words, a lot for elk to eat.
On that side of the world everything was real high up. Lots of water on top also.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/21/15 09:07 PM
Yes sir, he is about at 10k right now.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/21/15 09:09 PM
Yes sir, he is about at 10k right now.
it got to 90 yesterday in the bottom of the valley. He has the nice life.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/21/15 09:12 PM
Yes sir, he is about at 10k right now.
it got to 90 yesterday in the bottom of the valley. He has the nice life.
Oh yeah, muzzle loader season will have them at 9-11k. He is going fly fishing this afternoon if he get down soon enough. Tough life this scouting and hunting thing
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/21/15 09:17 PM
Yes sir, he is about at 10k right now.
it got to 90 yesterday in the bottom of the valley. He has the nice life.
Oh yeah, muzzle loader season will have them at 9-11k. He is going fly fishing this afternoon if he get down soon enough. Tough life this scouting and hunting thing
Right!!!
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/22/15 05:26 PM
Getting great reports fellas
Even though the acorns may be thin, plenty of great browse and graze up high. Friend said he has seen some great bulls and a few really nice bucks, all look to be in tip top condition.
I've have known this guy for a looong time, he hunts all over the world and I would hunt where he said without question. He knows game animals as good as anyone IMO. He saw many at tree line looking fat and healthy. He said the mountain grasses around his log home up there, is a full and thick as he's seen, some 3' tall in places!
If the weather cooperates and they move on time, it should be a phenomenal year in the area we all will be. BTW he is scouting the high country where many of the elk will come from as they head through where y'all will be, not to far as the crows fly.
Anyway, just wanted to pass that intel along.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/22/15 05:54 PM
Thanks. Sounds great.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/22/15 08:18 PM
Now pray for an early snow fall!!!!
Going to be a hell of a horn year up there
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/23/15 03:28 AM
I'm just hoping they aren't too scattered. A little snow would be nice, though.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/23/15 12:26 PM
That means it will be cold.... Sneaky I thought you promised us all 6 pointers and good weathe?
My wife is getting a little annoyed at how,excited I am getting.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/23/15 12:46 PM
I'm just hoping they aren't too scattered. A little snow would be nice, though.
Sure enough and it doesn't even need to be where you're hunting.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/23/15 01:00 PM
For my information: So snow higher up would be a good thing?
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/23/15 01:05 PM
For my information: So snow higher up would be a good thing?
Oh yeah, for one, it consolidates the habitat and triggers the cows to move the youngsters towards wintering grounds. The time of year you will be there, many bulls will still be accompanying the lady's, but you will also start seeing bachelors together. Same can happen if it is unusually warm, they will go back up to a more comfortable level, they can move 40 miles in 24 hrs when motivated.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/23/15 01:26 PM
That means it will be cold.... Sneaky I thought you promised us all 6 pointers and good weathe?
My wife is getting a little annoyed at how,excited I am getting.
It's alright Cleric. My wife has been that way since around March
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/23/15 01:50 PM
That means it will be cold.... Sneaky I thought you promised us all 6 pointers and good weathe?
My wife is getting a little annoyed at how,excited I am getting.
5 points and decent weather. I get to define decent.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/23/15 01:53 PM
For my information: So snow higher up would be a good thing?
Snow keeps them down in the lower, thick and steep areas. You know, the easy stuff.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/23/15 02:03 PM
5 points and decent weather. I get to define decent.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/23/15 05:08 PM
I am considering purchasing a Honda EM 650 generator to use to power my CPAP and maybe a light in my truck cap camper. These seem super quiet but I wouldn't want to bother any of you. What do you think?
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/23/15 05:34 PM
Joe, don't know what your budget is, or how sensitive the electronics are in the CPAP, but you may want to get one with built in sine wave inverter, much cleaner ac that wont hurt electronics. Honda has them as well in the Eu models iirc, but they are about 1k.
I bought a Ryobi after reading a crap load of reviews, bought it at home depot for around $500 iirc
here it is and it has been great since I got it last year , it can also be paired with another for extra wattage.
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Ryobi-2-200-W...I2200/203617901
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/23/15 06:31 PM
If we camp in the same spot, which is likely, then I really don't think it will be an issue. If need be, you could drive to the edge of camp, a bit downhill, and it shouldn't be heard by anyone. Those Honda's are pretty quiet.
There are rules about noise, though, so we'll need to look that up.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/23/15 06:32 PM
Joe, don't know what your budget is, or how sensitive the electronics are in the CPAP, but you may want to get one with built in sine wave inverter, much cleaner ac that wont hurt electronics. Honda has them as well in the Eu models iirc, but they are about 1k.
I bought a Ryobi after reading a crap load of reviews, bought it at home depot for around $500 iirc
here it is and it has been great since I got it last year , it can also be paired with another for extra wattage.
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Ryobi-2-200-W...I2200/203617901Some people don't like Ryobi, but I've had good luck with their power tools.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/23/15 08:18 PM
I just ordered my 165 qt cooler!
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/23/15 10:32 PM
I agree Sneaky, Ryobi has low end like most other manufacturers, but reviews and happy buyers makes it worth the "risk" for me. I am a honda fanboy, but when I can get near same for half with a great customer track record..
Never heard of a noise ordnance at any FF or BLM unimproved campground.. wont matter, the units with inverters are puff quite.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/24/15 12:32 AM
They may not, there. Some do. They have general rules like disturbing others with any loud noise. I doubt this would be any problem, since nobody is likely to hear it.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/24/15 01:49 PM
I just ordered my 165 qt cooler!
Sweet! You will love it. Hope you plan to leave that thing in the truck. I saw one of those a few weekends ago that a buddy had. Took 3 of us to get it loaded in the bed of the truck with it full. Talk about heavy!
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/25/15 01:41 PM
I just ordered my 165 qt cooler!
Sweet! You will love it. Hope you plan to leave that thing in the truck. I saw one of those a few weekends ago that a buddy had. Took 3 of us to get it loaded in the bed of the truck with it full. Talk about heavy!
positive attitude in buying that! I agree with ZK, if that was full, it could weigh over 300#.
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/26/15 01:17 AM
I have two of them already, one with the offroad wheels. Not a Yeti or one of the other super nice ones, but still pretty good.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/26/15 10:30 AM
I got my hiking New Balance shoes, ice chest, my new Ryobi 1000 watt gen/inverter came yesterday, and I've stacked "stuff" everywhere to pack. And I got my chart from Sneaky for BDC. 47 days till I head west!
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/26/15 12:44 PM
Sounds like Christmas in August Chief Joe!
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/27/15 01:04 PM
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/27/15 01:11 PM
I walked out in a pair of jeans this morning and didn't instantly melt with sweat. I'm ready to go
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/27/15 09:02 PM
I just woke up and stepped outside. I'm not sure what y'all are talking about. This is not pleasant.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/27/15 09:05 PM
9 hours ago it was pretty nice. mid 70s this morning
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/27/15 10:13 PM
It has been very nice at night. Sure beats working day shift.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/28/15 12:49 PM
Sounds like Christmas in August Chief Joe!
That's what Katie is saying. Although, perhaps, with a different tone of voice. Yesterday a spare 3L water bladder and Havalon Piranta knife showed up!
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/28/15 01:27 PM
Sounds like Christmas in August Chief Joe!
That's what Katie is saying. Although, perhaps, with a different tone of voice. Yesterday a spare 3L water bladder and Havalon Piranta knife showed up!
I have everything shipped to the office
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/28/15 01:31 PM
Sounds like Christmas in August Chief Joe!
That's what Katie is saying. Although, perhaps, with a different tone of voice. Yesterday a spare 3L water bladder and Havalon Piranta knife showed up!
I have everything shipped to the office
Lol Joe. I do the same as Bobo. If I order something, I have it shipped to my office then sneak it in to the spare bedroom where my pile of hunting stuff is, in hopes she don't see it
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/28/15 04:39 PM
You fellas are funny, I just throw a fit and pout
If I am rolling around on the floor pounding my fist and crying, usually means I need an "spensive" item, the wife knows me better than I know my self after almost 30 years, so she knows what "level" I'm at
Honestly though, she has never once stepped in on a purchase, if we can afford it. I have been very blessed in the "wife" department.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/28/15 05:29 PM
I've been blessed in the wife department as well. She balances me out very well. She's a tightwad when it comes to spending money on anything though lol.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/28/15 05:44 PM
My wife is curious as to all the boxes coming to the house lately...
She doesn't really mind. I think I got almost everything
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/28/15 06:59 PM
UPS driver knows me by name, drops off a box and she says "see you tomorrow". There is something wrong with that, just haven't figured it out yet
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/28/15 07:06 PM
Mine knows how to offset my spending with her own. She gets just as excited by Cabela's boxes as I do.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/28/15 07:10 PM
Mine knows how to offset my spending with her own. She gets just as excited by Cabela's boxes as I do.
I can see that being a problem, mine just waits until I'm gone and buys something like a 1k fricken dog
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/28/15 07:11 PM
1k dog???? Thought you said you were blessed in the "wife" department?
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/28/15 07:36 PM
Mine knows how to offset my spending with her own. She gets just as excited by Cabela's boxes as I do.
I can see that being a problem, mine just waits until I'm gone and buys something like a 1k fricken dog
Mine just waits until I'm hunting and surprises me with new furniture
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/28/15 07:58 PM
1k dog???? Thought you said you were blessed in the "wife" department?
Hell yeah, She could have bought new furniture
She has wanted a German shepperd pup for 10 years, we had wolf hybrids and shepperds in the past, but she wanted one for "inside the house, sooo When I got home from Colorado last year, I met "Bella"
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/28/15 08:00 PM
Mine knows how to offset my spending with her own. She gets just as excited by Cabela's boxes as I do.
I can see that being a problem, mine just waits until I'm gone and buys something like a 1k fricken dog
Mine just waits until I'm hunting and surprises me with new furniture
Has she had known, she could have had you a shiny new truck on your last "deployment"
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/28/15 08:11 PM
Great lookin pup! I love German Shepherds. We had a few growing up as kids and bred our female to my uncle's male, but I don't remember selling them for 1k
I have been trying to talk my woman into a GS, but she say's they are ugly
she does get some crazy ideas sometimes though.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/28/15 08:37 PM
UGLY?? DUDE...SMH What dog does she think is "purdy"? Please don't say poodle
Some of the high end GS bring almost 2k and more!! This little gal is of course papered. I used to raise them In the late 70's, early 80's, even then, I sold them to LEA and security firms for $200-300.
Very smart, loyal, protective breed
I just wasn't in the mind set to bond with another pup, now it is fun, but a PITA at times.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/28/15 08:44 PM
Oh I agree!! I think they are beautiful dogs. Good thing she married me, because she don't know what purdy is
Maybe my dad will chime in, but our female was papered. I want to say we were getting around $200-300 for them, but I could be wrong. It's been close to 20-25 years ago now.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/28/15 08:55 PM
My wife brought a dog home once. The manner in which I expressed my disapproval has prevented the occurrence, since.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/28/15 09:27 PM
Could be worse Sneaky, could have been a "dog" from the local bar......Be a "glass is half full" kind a fella....
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/28/15 09:28 PM
Would have ended about the same.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/28/15 09:30 PM
Well, I guess at least you're consistent
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/28/15 09:37 PM
Now she just brings home stray kids. She knows I won't shoot those.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/28/15 10:03 PM
if you are adopting sneaky i could use another set of parents...
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/28/15 10:14 PM
I'm not, but my wife is. Every time I'm gone for a few weeks to work, I come home to another kid at the house. Just ring the door bell. I'm sure she'll take you in.
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/28/15 10:18 PM
Mine knows how to offset my spending with her own. She gets just as excited by Cabela's boxes as I do.
I can see that being a problem, mine just waits until I'm gone and buys something like a 1k fricken dog
Mine just waits until I'm hunting and surprises me with new furniture
MIL did that 2yrs ago while my FIL was on that Ely elk hunt. He like to have had a stroke.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/28/15 10:22 PM
Now she just brings home stray kids. She knows I won't shoot those.
They know how to settle a score. I think it comes in their "man handling" handbook. Just tell her every kid means you have to buy a new hardhat and good ones aren't cheap for a good hand..
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/28/15 10:31 PM
Tried that. Not doing it again.
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/28/15 10:34 PM
She needs a micro pig.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/28/15 10:43 PM
That's not funny. She's already tried to bring a pig home, too.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/28/15 11:05 PM
Well then, pretty obvious whose the boss around your homestead, it's ok, just drink through it
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/29/15 12:20 AM
It sounds like we are all married to the same woman! My wife drags in any stray dog, cat, horse or kid she can. When we go to HEB or tractor supply I just close my eyes and swipe my debit card! Last hitch offshore she through out the couches, two weeks later she got new ones. smh
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/31/15 12:07 AM
42 days until I getta leave for Colorado! Dang!
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/31/15 01:08 AM
It's getting here. Time is starting to drag on, though. Maybe I should stop counting down the days.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/31/15 03:52 AM
Thought maybe you fellas changed your minds
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/31/15 04:09 AM
They haven't seen what they're up against yet.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/31/15 07:31 AM
They haven't seen what they're up against yet.
Just like the hills around Central Texas, no big deal......Will be like being home
Thought most of the fellas have been there before, maybe not hunting, but?
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/31/15 09:04 AM
Some have. I think only one has packed anything out of those mountains, though.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/31/15 12:15 PM
I've been up to Colorado, but it was for snow skiing/snow boarding. Been to New Mexico way back in the boyscout days and did a 10 day, 50mile backpacking trip at Philmont Scout ranch...that was pretty cool!
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/31/15 01:32 PM
Oh I agree!! I think they are beautiful dogs. Good thing she married me, because she don't know what purdy is
Maybe my dad will chime in, but our female was papered. I want to say we were getting around $200-300 for them, but I could be wrong. It's been close to 20-25 years ago now.
yep, our female was given to me by a co-worker that got transferred back to the NE living in an apartment. She was out of a high dollar breeder in New England with amazing bloodlines/pedigree back about 10 generations to top show dogs dating back into Germany & high marks in Schutzhund competitions. Since we didn't have that high of a pedigree male we were breeding with, the price was considerably lower and was $400-500 (roughly 20 years ago). Several of her pups went on to do some national Schutzhund competitions too. She was a beautiful sable and big boned (95-100#) but produces nicely marked/confirmation black/tan & black/silver pups from the two males we bred her too. She was as friendly as could be to the immediate family & friends but do not go in her back yard without one of us (wife, ZK, daughter or me). She bit my dad and a close friend without warning when they went into the yard without one of us, just a good nip to let them know they were not permitted to enter without one of us. We kept one huge male black/tan and later gave him to my FIL. Gorgeous dogs, intelligent, loyal, likely one of my favorite breeds for all around pet (but eat and dump like a horse).
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/31/15 01:34 PM
Some have. I think only one has packed anything out of those mountains, though.
yep, helped pack several out but always had access to horses or could get within a mile or so with vehicle ... which I might try to find one (some) horse if close and priced right.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/31/15 01:43 PM
They haven't seen what they're up against yet.
I have looked pretty closely in the area with Google Earth & ZK's topo map and it's definitely not going to be a cake walk by any stretch of the imagination, especially from the bottom heading up.
I am not in near the condition as my last trip 23 years ago where I was the canyon buster for my dad (75 yo) & FIL (70 yo) trying to get one or both of them on a good bull, but I did see a lot of elk, some really good, just couldn't direct them into shootable range for the older gents, nor could I lay a crosshair on the big 6x6 leading the herd.
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/31/15 01:45 PM
Some have. I think only one has packed anything out of those mountains, though.
yep, helped pack several out but always had access to horses or could get within a mile or so with vehicle ... which I might try to find one (some) horse if close and priced right.
Contact the DOW office, they all have horses and just may put them to work since I don't think they're required to have a permit.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/31/15 02:00 PM
DOW? Dept of Wildlife?
permit?
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/31/15 03:38 PM
PMK, best bet is to ask around town if you have time. Whole different world packing out with a horse.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/31/15 04:10 PM
PMK, best bet is to ask around town if you have time. Whole different world packing out with a horse.
yep, makes life a whole lot easier with a horse or two.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/31/15 06:37 PM
I need to buy my tag this week...
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/31/15 08:18 PM
I've been up to Colorado, but it was for snow skiing/snow boarding. Been to New Mexico way back in the boyscout days and did a 10 day, 50mile backpacking trip at Philmont Scout ranch...that was pretty cool!
No lifts where we're going, and happy birthday.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/31/15 08:29 PM
Thank ya sir.
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/31/15 08:34 PM
DOW? Dept of Wildlife?
permit?
People who do it as a service have to be permitted for the units so you won't find many.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/31/15 09:16 PM
DOW? Dept of Wildlife?
permit?
People who do it as a service have to be permitted for the units so you won't find many.
That is outfitters and guides, any guy up there with a horse, or mule may do it. I have had several fellas do it for me for $1-200
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/31/15 09:21 PM
They're supposed to get treated just like outfitters who'd pack in drop camps. Not providing guiding, but offering a service on public land.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 08/31/15 10:36 PM
They're supposed to get treated just like outfitters who'd pack in drop camps. Not providing guiding, but offering a service on public land.
Special Recreation Permits are for commercial outfits, not a ranch hand or local doing a side job here and there.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/01/15 01:56 PM
I have checked with a couple I found on the net, but they are a bit pricier than I was expecting for short term lease (but might be well worth it depending on where Sneaky drags us into). Still waiting to hear back from one...
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/01/15 03:24 PM
They're supposed to get treated just like outfitters who'd pack in drop camps. Not providing guiding, but offering a service on public land.
Special Recreation Permits are for commercial outfits, not a ranch hand or local doing a side job here and there.
I was under the impression that anyone offering for profit was considered commercial. Could be completely wrong on that, just going off what one of the women I deal with up there has told me about it.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/01/15 04:05 PM
They're supposed to get treated just like outfitters who'd pack in drop camps. Not providing guiding, but offering a service on public land.
Special Recreation Permits are for commercial outfits, not a ranch hand or local doing a side job here and there.
I was under the impression that anyone offering for profit was considered commercial. Could be completely wrong on that, just going off what one of the women I deal with up there has told me about it.
I think you'd be right if the guy with the horse was actively offering, or advertising it. I'm talking about the fella you see trailing cattle from the high country, or the guy at the feed store I would ask.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/01/15 04:10 PM
I have checked with a couple I found on the net, but they are a bit pricier than I was expecting for short term lease (but might be well worth it depending on where Sneaky drags us into). Still waiting to hear back from one...
I knew a guy that lived by me in the 90's, he and 3 other fellas "hired" a packer to take them in and then pick them up. Even in the 90's it cost him $600 each. Also included packing out any downed bull from camp. No Guide services where provided, just a wrangler and horses/mules.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/01/15 06:25 PM
FYI ... $450 for the 1st 6 hours, $50 an hour for each additional hour, no more than $650 ... includes 2 pack horses, a horse for the hunter, a packer and his horse. time starts when leaving the barn until getting packed animal to vehicle or camp. They will quarter, but the clock is running so its best to have the elk already quartered.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/01/15 06:41 PM
Sneaky will do all that for a hunerd!
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/01/15 06:50 PM
is right ... a bit out of my league!
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/01/15 06:59 PM
"Time starts when they leave the barn" OK, that will almost always come out to the max! With the group y'all are going to have, wont be "nuth'n bit a thang" getting one out, young fellas can go all night most of the time.
" The mansion on Turtle creek" is looking like a better value, feed that boy good and he can work it off up there
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/01/15 07:01 PM
I always feed good, Western
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/01/15 07:01 PM
BTW he fed me a nice ribeye from Longhorn Steakhouse last night, and man was it tasty.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/01/15 07:03 PM
Why would I pay 650 for something I can con ZK into doing for free?
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/01/15 07:05 PM
Put me on a monster bull and you got yourself a deal
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/01/15 07:07 PM
they actually said when they leave the ranch (not the barn, my words as being loaded) ... its only about 10+/- miles from them to the trailhead. Yes, I'm sure we will be able to get one (or a few) out ourselves.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/01/15 07:12 PM
Put me on a monster bull and you got yourself a deal
You think you can pack out like this guy, huh? Okay, I'll see what I can do.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/01/15 07:13 PM
Why would I pay 650 for something I can con ZK into doing for free?
HELLOOO
Young guys love that stuff!
I can guarantee if you get one down (the hard part), the excitement in the group will get you plenty of help, just try to be first. If your the last bull killed, they know what the gig is and may be conveniently "gone fish'n"!
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/01/15 07:13 PM
done!
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/01/15 07:15 PM
BTW he fed me a nice ribeye from Longhorn Steakhouse last night, and man was it tasty.
Well that is at least worth the 2 rear quarters and back strap!
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/01/15 07:16 PM
Put me on a monster bull and you got yourself a deal
You think you can pack out like this guy, huh? Okay, I'll see what I can do.
That is one smart fella, lead that sucker right to camp!
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/01/15 07:19 PM
I've got a rope and a couple of tow straps. Lets see how manly yall are
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/01/15 07:29 PM
I've got a rope and a couple of tow straps. Lets see how manly yall are
Already tried that, but you go ahead and knock yourself out.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/01/15 07:31 PM
lol no thanks. I've seen a couple of videos when a guy tried to rope a deer...something MUCH smaller than and elk. That was enough of an entertainment to allow me to have enough of that. So I'll sit back and let someone else try
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/01/15 07:35 PM
Is orange camo allowed?
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/01/15 07:37 PM
No. Must be solid blaze orange.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/01/15 07:40 PM
"From the Colorado Revised Statutes: "...it is unlawful for any person to hunt or take elk, deer, pronghorn, moose, or black bear with any firearm unless such person is wearing daylight fluorescent orange garments that meet the following requirements:"
•Garments shall be solid daylight fluorescent orange colored material and shall be of sufficient brightness to be seen conspicuously from a reasonable distance.
•Garments shall be a minimum of five hundred square inches and shall be worn as an outer garment above the waist, part of which shall be a hat or head covering visible from all directions."
Archery hunters, please note: All hunters hunting during a rifle season must wear fluorescent orange according to the above regardless of manner of take."
http://cpw.state.co.us/learn/Pages/HuntingTipsNon-Residents.aspxEDIT: found info on Colorado Parks & Wildlife
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/01/15 07:45 PM
from the big game info:
Law requires hunters to wear at least 500 square inches of SOLID DAYLIGHT FLUORESCENT
ORANGE material on an outer garment above the waist while hunting deer, elk, pronghorn, bear or
moose with any firearm license. A fluorescent orange hat or head covering, visible from all directions,
is also required.
...
CAMOUFLAGE ORANGE DOES NOT QUALIFY! Mesh garments are legal but not recommended. CPW strongly
recommends wearing daylight fluorescent orange clothes in the field, even if you’re not hunting. Wearing orange is
for hunter safety, big-game animals don’t see orange like we do. Movement, sound and smell are what give hunters
away.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/01/15 07:49 PM
Bass Pro has a browning daylight fluorescent orange cloth zip up vest for about $15. I am guessing it will have to go over the top of a coat or even a day back pack?
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/01/15 07:49 PM
Well, crap. I had never even thought they would not allow orange camo as my vest and hat have so little on them other than the orange. Back to Amazon.......
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/01/15 07:53 PM
Deep Sea, look up one note, posted right before you. I haven't checked, but would guess Cabela's and/or Academy would have similar. I have a spare pull over with side velcro and also one of the old school style plastic/vinyl construction type vests if you need to borrow. I will have them along just in case someone shreds their while packing my elk out about 11:00 on day 1
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/01/15 08:09 PM
I have a couple florescent orange ball caps I wear 98% of the time, I can wear a thick woolish face mask under it. You can wear a cowboy hat as long as you have a slip over, I have one and used it a few years, ball cap is just too convenient.
I have always used a cotton style vest with a front clip, you will never go back to another, if you try the adjustable ones with a front clip. I always have my pack on over my FO, but will put some flagging on the pack to help, also good if you drop your pack to run and make a shot (easier to find) Never had a GW say anything. I dont walk all day like some people though, I find my spot and sit there until dark as a rule, so my FO is exposed usually in the day time anyway.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/01/15 08:11 PM
I have a small aluminum stool that I use for dove hunting, but not sure it would be worth the carry ... do ya'll carry in something to sit on or just pull up the ground or log?
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/01/15 08:30 PM
PMK, I will use a stool if I'm right of a trail or road, no way in hell am I toting one. Been there done that and find them in the woods pretty regular, many go in and many stay behind LOL
I did carry one of those foam filled cushions for a couple years, then lost it
Usually a tree or rocks in that country. I have a few "rock" seats that I put together 20 or more years ago, still there and I use them almost every year at one time or another.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/01/15 08:32 PM
If Sneaky has y'all hunting fitty yards from camp, I'd take whatever is comfortable, but from what I read last year, he aint done till he puts in a good 20 miles a day
EDIT: Those chairs are great around a camp fire though and you have it as an option to carry with you so....
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/01/15 08:58 PM
Bean bag!!!
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/01/15 09:09 PM
10 miles. I only do 20 when I'm on my own.
I also have an extra orange vest.
It needs to be worn on the outside, but the law says nothing about having a pack over it. I've never worried about that, and they've never hassled me about it.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/01/15 09:10 PM
Do they make them in orange?
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/01/15 09:17 PM
Do they make them in orange?
but I ain't tote'n that thing ...
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/01/15 09:19 PM
That's the ticket.
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/01/15 10:04 PM
I had bought a FO vest and ball cap for this hunt, but got both in camo. Already started return procedure to exchange for non camo. I know elk cannot see the FO like we do, but I worried about the solid color with little to no breakup. Oh well, not a major deal. I also have 4 or 5 FO construction style vests as I always forgot mine when I had my construction company and had to go to the dump. I also have a FO beanie but plan on just a ball cap and hunting vest once I return these.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/01/15 10:08 PM
Don't worry about breaking up your pattern. Camo is about the least important thing on this hunt.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/01/15 10:29 PM
Don't worry about breaking up your pattern. Camo is about the least important thing on this hunt.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/02/15 01:38 PM
Don't worry about breaking up your pattern. Camo is about the least important thing on this hunt.
totally agree!
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/02/15 01:57 PM
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/02/15 02:17 PM
Love the Elk color, do they come with a target?
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/02/15 02:23 PM
Sneaky wants a skinny cut pair...
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/02/15 02:28 PM
Yeah, he's been working out for what, almost 2 years now? Probably down to 120-130# I bet
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/02/15 07:10 PM
Do they have those with stitched pockets and faded legs?
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/02/15 07:12 PM
Love the Elk color, do they come with a target?
Ironically my pack is dry earth... Never thought about it until earlier this year.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/02/15 07:15 PM
Bobo, I doubt it matters much. The people that are dumb enough to shoot at something that isn't what their tag is for will shoot at anything regardless of color. At least when you're bow hunting you're close enough to give them an earful.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/02/15 07:18 PM
Sneaky, haven't been exposed to many California hunters yet huh
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/02/15 07:18 PM
Do they have those with stitched pockets and faded legs?
No they choose not to sponsor rifleman
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/02/15 07:19 PM
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/02/15 07:24 PM
Do they have those with stitched pockets and faded legs?
No they choose not to sponsor rifleman
Their loss..sparkly *** shows up, stuff dies. (and not from laughing, Western)
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/02/15 07:25 PM
Sneaky, haven't been exposed to many California hunters yet huh
They're the ones that shot at me, and I was wearing orange. Those guys will shoot at anything.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/02/15 07:28 PM
Do they have those with stitched pockets and faded legs?
No they choose not to sponsor rifleman
Ariat has some pretty good fire resistant pants if you're needing a sponsor.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/02/15 07:28 PM
Do they have those with stitched pockets and faded legs?
No they choose not to sponsor rifleman
Their loss..sparkly *** shows up, stuff dies. (and not from laughing, Western)
So you have them britches with all the sparkly stuff glued on, like they sell at traders village or on de border?
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/02/15 07:29 PM
Sneaky, haven't been exposed to many California hunters yet huh
They're the ones that shot at me, and I was wearing orange. Those guys will shoot at anything.
Damn str8!! but no point adding fuel to their excuses!
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/02/15 07:37 PM
Do they have those with stitched pockets and faded legs?
No they choose not to sponsor rifleman
Their loss..sparkly *** shows up, stuff dies. (and not from laughing, Western)
So you have them britches with all the sparkly stuff glued on, like they sell at traders village or on de border?
No, just ones with elaborate stitching designs.
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/02/15 07:47 PM
Ok, so my co-worker will not be joining us, but my brother will. So this changes my travel plans a little, I will now be leaving thursday morning to travel to Davis, OK (just north of DFW) and pick him up. We will then both travel West and North from there. Cleric, wasn't it you that needed a ride from DFW area? I hadn't paid much attention as I had not planned on going that way. I have an Excursion and there is quite a bit of room in it (unless we all bring like 3 120 qt coolers!). My brother (Steve, not a THF member) will not be ready until 5 or so on Thursday so I have a nice meandering drive.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/02/15 08:00 PM
RM are you serious? I thought BOBO was hitting you whilst you where not looking
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/02/15 08:06 PM
Deep Sea, if we need to haul any big coolers for whatever reason, let us know. I'm sure we'll have plenty of room to throw some in our rig.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/02/15 08:08 PM
Bobo, I doubt it matters much. The people that are dumb enough to shoot at something that isn't what their tag is for will shoot at anything regardless of color. At least when you're bow hunting you're close enough to give them an earful.
Right!!!!
The adventures of Public land lol!!!
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/02/15 08:09 PM
RM are you serious? I thought BOBO was hitting you whilst you where not looking
I only roll with self disclosed material
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/02/15 08:13 PM
OK, totally lost on this one, didn't know RM made clothes, but that would explain why Victoria'S secrete is having Money troubles
edit: I dont think a teddy works with a boot cut, but he is the pro.
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/02/15 08:54 PM
I don't make the jeans, just wear them.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/02/15 11:39 PM
I don't make the jeans, just wear them.
OOOHHH , got it, Inside joke
Good to see THF opened up the mod doors for diversity
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/02/15 11:47 PM
Material is posted on the forum, just have to know where to look.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/02/15 11:51 PM
Material is posted on the forum, just have to know where to look.
No offense RM, but I don't read "them kinda threads"
Somehow I missed them though.
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/03/15 12:00 AM
How many people in this hunt group total?
I'd love to do this with y'all one day. Not any time soon, but one day. I think we need to do an archery elk hunt before a rifle one.
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/03/15 12:09 AM
Could we go over the drop-dead date to be there again, just in case I need to cut-and-run after a trip with the woman that makes my life worth living?
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/03/15 12:11 AM
The season is oct 17-25 so anytime you want
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/03/15 12:14 AM
How many people in this hunt group total?
I'd love to do this with y'all one day. Not any time soon, but one day. I think we need to do an archery elk hunt before a rifle one.
I tried to get some guys to put together an archery hunt when this first came up, but it never worked out. I'd do both, if I could.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/03/15 12:14 AM
Chital, I want to say we are at 7 guys right now plus jsims and whoever plans on going with him, but haven't heard much from him in a while.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/03/15 12:15 AM
Could we go over the drop-dead date to be there again, just in case I need to cut-and-run after a trip with the woman that makes my life worth living?
We will be there around the 16th through the 25th. If you could manage a few days, anywhere in there would be fine.
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/03/15 12:19 AM
Cool stuff.
Lookin' forward to hearing about the actual hunt when it rolls around. Keep the not-so-fortunate ones in the loop
(Well, i guess y'all are, this thread is about to hit 50 pages!)
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/03/15 12:21 AM
We will do what we can. Sneaky said he didn't have much service last year though. I'm just ready to go!
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/03/15 12:41 AM
With a booster, there's a little bit of service that comes and goes at camp.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/03/15 12:51 AM
With a booster, there's a little bit of service that comes and goes at camp.
Sometimes you just have to find that "right tree", or "right spot".
See it every year and its a hoot, fellas walking around like in a drunk stupor with one hand to the head, trying to find that signal LOL
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/03/15 01:31 AM
Oh, I know where there's a signal. But it's an old man sit-and-watch spot. I even saw the boehind of a cow elk not too far from it.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/03/15 03:22 AM
My favorite Sept--- early October pants. The mountain hardware ones above are 4way stretch and lined these below kuhl are just 4 way stretch, and work great in hot to cool weather
http://www.campsaver.com/renegade-pant-men-s-2
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/03/15 08:19 AM
Oh, I know where there's a signal. But it's an old man sit-and-watch spot. I even saw the boehind of a cow elk not too far from it.
Sounds like the perfect all around spot, to bad you bailed
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/03/15 11:06 AM
We've got him waffling. I think he'll go.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/03/15 11:26 AM
39 days til I leave!
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/03/15 05:14 PM
We've got him waffling. I think he'll go.
Don't know why he wouldn't, he already has a good spot mapped out, that is the hardest hurdle.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/03/15 06:00 PM
Second hardest. The hardest hurdle is what's keeping him.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/03/15 06:14 PM
Second hardest. The hardest hurdle is what's keeping him.
Yeah, makes no sense. Did you have him where he could smell a sewer last year? I hear that bothers him
Other then that, just makes no sense. Maybe you should call the MRS and see if CR can come out and play?
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/03/15 06:17 PM
Don't get me involved.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/03/15 06:26 PM
Your the scout leader are you not?
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/03/15 06:31 PM
Maybe CR will get the cojones and sneak out the winda
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/03/15 06:34 PM
I don't recruit.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/03/15 06:35 PM
He could sneak out. It's the sneaking back in that's tough.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/03/15 07:56 PM
He could sneak out. It's the sneaking back in that's tough.
especially 10-12 days later
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/03/15 07:57 PM
11 days!!!! And I'm hunting!!!!
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/03/15 07:59 PM
He could sneak out. It's the sneaking back in that's tough.
especially 10-12 days later
Well you boys will just have to give him a leg up jeeez. I hope you guys are so sore from toting elk, you have to carry him through the front door and take the
heat with him SMDH
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/03/15 08:52 PM
11 days!!!! And I'm hunting!!!!
Must be nice.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/03/15 09:19 PM
11 days!!!! And I'm hunting!!!!
Not much longer than that for me! Make sure you chum the hell outa my area too
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/03/15 09:25 PM
Second hardest. The hardest hurdle is what's keeping him.
Yeah, makes no sense. Did you have him where he could smell a sewer last year?
I hear that bothers him Other then that, just makes no sense. Maybe you should call the MRS and see if CR can come out and play?
That's true, it does bother me. The guys learned last year - I'm a very fastidious pooper.
Cat hole trowel - check.
TP in large coffee can - check.
Prep H wipes - check.
All above in screw-lid, 5 gal. bucket - check.
And you recall my toilet seat on camping stool project from last year.
But seriously, this trip I'm taking with the wife beforehand could become even more important. We're waiting for her doc to get the radiology (diagnostic mammogram) report next week. It's pretty nerve racking having to wait. This could get real serious, real quick. Prayers would be appreciated.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/03/15 09:36 PM
Prayers would be appreciated.
Praying for you both!
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/03/15 09:36 PM
Prayers surely sent Creekrunner, all for good news and a great "getaway".
Got bad news on my SIL yesterday, tough for sure. Hope your gal gets great news!
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/03/15 09:37 PM
Second hardest. The hardest hurdle is what's keeping him.
Yeah, makes no sense. Did you have him where he could smell a sewer last year?
I hear that bothers him Other then that, just makes no sense. Maybe you should call the MRS and see if CR can come out and play?
That's true, it does bother me. The guys learned last year - I'm a very fastidious pooper.
Cat hole trowel - check.
TP in large coffee can - check.
Prep H wipes - check.
All above in screw-lid, 5 gal. bucket - check.
And you recall my toilet seat on camping stool project from last year.
But seriously, this trip I'm taking with the wife beforehand could become even more important. We're waiting for her doc to get the radiology (diagnostic mammogram) report next week. It's pretty nerve racking having to wait. This could get real serious, real quick. Prayers would be appreciated.
Ugh...sorry to hear my friend. I hope all is well and turns out for the best. Definite prayers for you and your wife at this time. It's all about her now for sure, but don't hesitate to lean on others to help you all get through it if necessary. Our thoughts and prayers are with you all.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/03/15 09:39 PM
Prayers sent
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/03/15 09:43 PM
praying for you and your wife!
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/04/15 03:29 AM
I guess you better take care of that, then. Hope it goes well.
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/04/15 10:44 AM
Thanks guys, I appreciate it.
I found this in the Bargain Cave at Cabela's. No, it's not engineered like y'all's fancy packs and yes, it looks like those straps would cut into your shoulder, but you can pad that. Come on, it's only ten bucks and can be worn as a belt. 'Thought y'all'd wanna know. >>>
Meat Pack
Posted By: 1860.colt
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/04/15 01:02 PM
Prayers would be appreciated.
Praying for you both!
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Prayers
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/04/15 02:35 PM
Looks like a decent vest for ten bucks.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/05/15 11:01 AM
Looks like a decent vest for ten bucks.
Even of you draped it over a quarter your toteing
Posted By: 1860.colt
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/05/15 03:13 PM
Looks like a decent vest for ten bucks.
Even
if you draped it over a quarter your toteing
Fixed it for ya
i think ?
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/06/15 12:48 AM
Anybody know of a problem using a muzzle brake for this trip?
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/06/15 01:09 AM
Anybody know of a problem using a muzzle brake for this trip?
Only rule I know of, if you bring you one, you have to bring one for everybody
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/06/15 01:30 AM
Here is the brake I just bought.
Muzzle brake
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/06/15 02:14 AM
Anybody know of a problem using a muzzle brake for this trip?
Uh....... It might increase your odds of hunting "alone".
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/06/15 02:18 AM
I think you're required to yell "Fire in the hole!" before pulling the trigger.
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/06/15 02:26 AM
Yea, if you are standing off to the side of that puppy you will think a mortar shell just went off. You won't be able to hear for weeks.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/06/15 03:02 AM
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/06/15 03:05 AM
I use a brake on my STW. It's no secret when that thing goes off.
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/06/15 04:09 AM
Yes I know it will be louder than normal. But in reality it will not be any louder, just the sound will be directed to the side and not forward so it will seem louder. After spending some time at the range on Thursday I was reminded of how little recoil the .308 with brake was compared to my .260. I was also reminded of how much that affected my accuracy and ability to remain on target after the shot. I think that the biggest gain in knowledge of my past shooting was learning how little I actually knew before! I would basically find a target, put my crosshairs on it and yank the trigger. With little regard for distance, trigger control, or ensuring I had made a good shot by staying on target. I no longer will shoot that way now that I know better. I actually am going to get a supressor for hunting, it is just not in the budget yet.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/06/15 10:53 AM
How important are the headlamps and suggestions for purchase? I have two now but they are just average. Thanks
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/06/15 11:40 AM
How important are the headlamps and suggestions for purchase? I have two now but they are just average. Thanks
In my amateur opinion, what you have would be fine...if you don't down an elk, or if you do and plenty of the other guys show up to help. If you do down an elk in the afternoon or last light, far from camp, and it's just you and maybe one other guy, then you're gonna want the best headlamp you can buy and lots of extra batteries.
I use my old ones for around camp, in the truck, etc. and I keep one really good one, folded up in a large pill bottle, with extra batteries, in my hunting pack for a SHTF scenario.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/06/15 02:23 PM
How important are the headlamps and suggestions for purchase? I have two now but they are just average. Thanks
As long as they work and you have batteries for them.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/06/15 02:41 PM
I used a ball cap one year that had several led lights built in, worked great, but makes the bill of the hat too heavy. I have never used a headlight, but can sure see where it would be handy when your by yourself. I carry a mini mag light I have had since the 80's and a small led light and spare batteries.
I have done a few elk by feel, when by myself, it is a biatch, done it fire side to0, which is a little easier, so I could see a headlamp being a good tool worth it's pack weight if you hunt till dark.
As far as muzzle break, if it improves your accuracy, it is a good thing IMO. I carried one on my 7mm for many years. I use a 300wsm now, no break. Just a matter of personal preference I think.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/06/15 02:59 PM
I've used a couple different ones for deer hunting but I'm a fan of the kind that has an elastic headband and the light pivots down. My dad prefers the clip style that clips to the bill of your cap. When I get hot I move my cap around or take it off, guess that's why I like the headband. They are all a personal preference kind of thing.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/06/15 03:22 PM
Zebra light.
The 18650 ones are awesome but setting up for those batteries is a pain and expenses, but the reg battery ones are awesome
Posted By: txtrophy85
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/06/15 03:23 PM
How many guys have committed to the trip?
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/06/15 03:35 PM
7 or 8, so far, with a few other possibilities.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/06/15 09:15 PM
35 days !!!!
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/08/15 10:15 AM
For those of you who have been hunting here before, what types of shooting positions should I expect? I prefer to shoot prone, and am contemplating a shooting mat for this. But I don't know if there would be very many opportunities for this. Shooting sticks?
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/08/15 02:38 PM
For those of you who have been hunting here before, what types of shooting positions should I expect? I prefer to shoot prone, and am contemplating a shooting mat for this. But I don't know if there would be very many opportunities for this. Shooting sticks?
There are not many places for prone shots. Grass is too high and there aren't many knolls to shoot down off of. I packed shooting stacks the first day or two. After that I left them in the truck. Shots most generally are going to be in quakey parks, dark timber or short openings. Only if you hike to the edge of the canyon and glass the opposite canyon wall will you have a 200 plus yard shot. That's just my opinion. Lots of tress and downfall to shoot off of.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/08/15 03:12 PM
Deep Sea, IMO, the mat would be just an encumbrance, I think the same about shooting sticks, but they would make more sense if you feel like dragging them on the trail with you. I had use a extendable 20" rifle mounted bipods and they worked better than something else to carry. But honestly, I used the bipods on on hunt, don't even have it on my rifle now for the last 6-7 years.
There is usually plenty of rest positions like ,dead-fall, trees, rocks, and you never know how the situation will go down, most likely it will be fast.
I have learned, that the 1st thing I do when I find my spot, is secure a good rest on available "stuff" and for several directions, if elk come through in a hurry, you don't have time to be trimming branches, if you're walking, well, that is another set of "things".
Just my thoughts
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/08/15 07:00 PM
You'll have no use for a shooting mat. Sticks or bipods will become an annoyance, too, unless you have a way to secure them to your pack that keeps them out of the way.
A lot of places we will sit are steep, so keep that in mind. Your shorter rests will be useless in those spots due to the incline. I have a Bog Pod for this. I can get by just fine without it, but I have one, and it fits nicely on my pack. It scopes out far enough to provide a good rest on those slopes.
That's for sitting. For walking, I make do with offhand, which I practice regularly, find a nearby sapling, or throw my pack on the ground for longer shots, if the terrain makes it feasible. A sturdy pack makes for a pretty decent rest in varied terrain depending on how you turn it.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/08/15 09:07 PM
agree with Sneaky, there will likely be very little use for a mat or sticks unless you find an easy way to carry ... but I suspect by day 2 you will be leaving a lot of stuff at camp ... and each of you going better have picked up the pace with your daily walking and any stairs you can find to go up and down!!!
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/09/15 12:27 AM
LMAO, I work offshore on boats, all i do all day is climb stairs! We even up the dificulty level a few notches because everything is moving!!!
Thanks for the heads up on the mat and sticks. I do have a bipod on my rifle, but if it becomes to much hassle, it comes off easy enough. I hope I am not overthinking all of this, but I want to give myself the best oportunity I can.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/09/15 01:39 AM
I had a bipod on my rifle on my first hunt. Loved the thing. Never thought twice about it.
I took it off the second day.
Posted By: JSims
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/09/15 03:43 PM
Looks like everyone that claimed that they wanted to go with me has backed out. If anyone needs or wants to ride with me from Central Texas or somewhere along the way is more than welcome.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/09/15 06:02 PM
If anyone needs or wants to ride with me from Central Texas or somewhere along the way is more than welcome.
Would a swing thru Ohio be out of the way?
Posted By: JSims
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/09/15 06:14 PM
If anyone needs or wants to ride with me from Central Texas or somewhere along the way is more than welcome.
Would a swing thru Ohio be out of the way?
Nah!!! Just have your things packed and wait on me.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/09/15 06:59 PM
Jsims, we are planning to pull out of Georgetown sometime Thursday morning. Not sure when you were planning on leaving, but we could all convoy if interested.
Posted By: JSims
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/09/15 07:22 PM
ZK, when are yall planning on heading back?
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/09/15 07:34 PM
I think we're planning on staying the whole season, so more than likely we'll head back Monday the 26th unless everyone has tagged out early on. Even then we still may stay until Monday morning. We already have the time off so might as well enjoy Co. while we can
Posted By: JSims
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/09/15 08:12 PM
I think we're planning on staying the whole season, so more than likely we'll head back Monday the 26th unless everyone has tagged out early on. Even then we still may stay until Monday morning. We already have the time off so might as well enjoy Co. while we can
If everyone tags out early, I will get some beer from the Dolores River Brewery and we will have a party!
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/09/15 08:13 PM
I think we're planning on staying the whole season, so more than likely we'll head back Monday the 26th unless everyone has tagged out early on. Even then we still may stay until Monday morning. We already have the time off so might as well enjoy Co. while we can
ZK, make sure in that free time, you procure a real estate listing guide, give your dad plenty of time to locate and buy a cabin, then we can all rent a room since some of us are old, or handicapped in some way
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/09/15 08:33 PM
I think we're planning on staying the whole season, so more than likely we'll head back Monday the 26th unless everyone has tagged out early on. Even then we still may stay until Monday morning. We already have the time off so might as well enjoy Co. while we can
If everyone tags out early, I will get some beer from the Dolores River Brewery and we will have a party!
Do we have to wait to tag out for that?
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/09/15 08:34 PM
ZK, make sure in that free time, you procure a real estate listing guide, give your dad plenty of time to locate and buy a cabin, then we can all rent a room since some of us are old, or handicapped in some way
Now that's a good idear right there!
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/09/15 08:45 PM
ZK, make sure in that free time, you procure a real estate listing guide, give your dad plenty of time to locate and buy a cabin, then we can all rent a room since some of us are old, or handicapped in some way
Now that's a good idear right there!
Got to outfox the fox. LOL
And whats this "buy beer after everyone tags out bidness"?
I'm not much of a drinker, like crown and coke, or str8 whiskey at times, but will have a beer my friends bring in the evenings to help me fall asleep if it is mich ultra, but no way in hell would I mention "wait till you tag out" I'd be strung up like a cheap suit!
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/09/15 08:48 PM
I'm not much of a drinker anymore either, but a cold one or two before bed after a long days hunt doesn't sound too shabby to me.
Posted By: JSims
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/09/15 08:48 PM
ZK, make sure in that free time, you procure a real estate listing guide, give your dad plenty of time to locate and buy a cabin, then we can all rent a room since some of us are old, or handicapped in some way
Now that's a good idear right there!
Got to outfox the fox. LOL
And whats this "buy beer after everyone tags out bidness"?
I'm not much of a drinker, like crown and coke, or str8 whiskey at times, but will have a beer my friends bring in the evenings to help me fall asleep if it is mich ultra, but no way in hell would I mention "wait till you tag out" I'd be strung up like a cheap suit!
I promise that I will be drinking a few no matter what. Hangovers in deer camp never have worked well with me though.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/09/15 08:53 PM
Agreed. Although the older I get, I learn to try different drinks that wont cause the hangovers the next morning lol I'm down to coors lite and dos xx.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/09/15 11:06 PM
At least bring some decent beer and whiskey. This is no time for that watered down junk.
One more reason Creekrunner needs to go. He knows quality.
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/09/15 11:10 PM
At least bring some decent beer and whiskey. This is no time for that watered down junk.
One more reason Creekrunner needs to go. He knows quality.
My father would be aghast...and I'm quite honored by the compliment. Sad state of affairs.
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/09/15 11:16 PM
And if I do "pitch up" after this other trip, if I'm guesstimating the expenses half-way close, I won't have a pot to piss in.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/10/15 12:21 AM
And if I do "pitch up" after this other trip, if I'm guesstimating the expenses half-way close, I won't have a pot to piss in.
CR, there will be enough fellas there, you can borrow a "pot to piss in", or use a pine tree
I'm hoping you go just because you and the Mrs got good news and life goes on as normal..
Posted By: JSims
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/10/15 12:23 AM
At least bring some decent beer and whiskey. This is no time for that watered down junk.
One more reason Creekrunner needs to go. He knows quality.
I usually drink Bud Light but when I'm up there I usually drink a brew from the local brew pub.
Posted By: JSims
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/10/15 12:25 AM
Don't dog me too much. Remember that I'm the local with a place to wash your butt. Haha
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/10/15 12:44 AM
And if I do "pitch up" after this other trip, if I'm guesstimating the expenses half-way close, I won't have a pot to piss in.
CR, there will be enough fellas there, you can borrow a "pot to piss in", or use a pine tree
I'm hoping you go just because you and the Mrs got good news and life goes on as normal..
Amen. Thank you sir.
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/10/15 12:46 AM
Don't dog me too much. Remember that I'm the local with a place to wash your butt. Haha
Does Dad have one of them shower heads on a hose that you can take down and give the naughty bits a good spritzer?
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/10/15 01:38 AM
I have found a new appreciation for Bud Lite. Will that be a case or two?
Posted By: JSims
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/10/15 05:22 PM
Don't dog me too much. Remember that I'm the local with a place to wash your butt. Haha
Does Dad have one of them shower heads on a hose that you can take down and give the naughty bits a good spritzer?
HAHA!! Not quite that fancy!
Posted By: JSims
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/10/15 05:24 PM
I have found a new appreciation for Bud Lite. Will that be a case or two?
No worries Sneaky. I'll provide the shower and you provide the experience on the hunt. I think that's a pretty darn good trade.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/10/15 05:40 PM
Posted By: JJHunts
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/10/15 05:50 PM
http://s765.photobucket.com/user/justinrjones/media/Elk%201_zpsdve7ytyk.jpg.htmlGents, I just got back from an archery hunt in NM. Figured I would get your juices flowing as you all are anxiously waiting for the day. I stalked this thread as I was waiting to go myself. Good luck to you all! I can't wait to read the stories.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/10/15 05:54 PM
Nice man!
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/10/15 05:59 PM
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/10/15 06:05 PM
Well done JJ... But I hate you now... I don't leave for NM until Monday night. Four more damn days of day dreaming
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/10/15 06:38 PM
Well done JJ... But I hate you now... I don't leave for NM until Monday night. Four more damn days of day dreaming
Oh quit crying nephew SMDH, That is 4 days to get your game on, good lawd....
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/10/15 07:58 PM
Dang nice, JJ. You kill him with that Bowtech or the cedar branch? Seems like a toss up, to me, on performance.
Posted By: JSims
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/10/15 08:03 PM
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/10/15 08:20 PM
well done JJ!
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/11/15 09:43 AM
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/11/15 12:38 PM
Well done JJ... But I hate you now... I don't leave for NM until Monday night. Four more damn days of day dreaming
Oh quit crying nephew SMDH, That is 4 days to get your game on, good lawd....
We pups call that carb'ing up. More pie please
Already packed and checked the list twice. Now the waiting begins
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/13/15 10:59 AM
The time is flying by! 29 days til i getta head west! It is colder here in Ohio this morning than it is in Dolores!
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/13/15 03:04 PM
The time is flying by! 29 days til i getta head west! It is colder here in Ohio this morning than it is in Dolores!
Yes Sir, but a little sooner for me. I am starting to feel the pressure of all the crap I need to get done before I go. Once you think you have all the time in the world, it is here and it becomes a scramble
Find my self daydreaming of past hunts everyday now,
Thats why the best part is the memories of those years.
This cool weather isn't helping either, makes my hairs stand up ready to head North West.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/13/15 07:13 PM
I have a short video on my FB page from a friend in CO. They did well on their bow hunt for elk. The video is a huge bull elk that came in within 15 yards of one of the hunters who had left his bow behind as he helped a buddy blood trail a wounded cow. Man it was NICE!
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/13/15 07:22 PM
I guess you will have to take that bull, so he can see it up close and personal.....
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/13/15 09:28 PM
Just finished getting my $75.00 fiberglass top on my Ford. Not pretty but sufficient and effective for the purpose. Need to make the bed platform soon.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/13/15 09:32 PM
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/14/15 06:32 PM
Sure quite in here, you fellas still going? Here I am getting so excited again, my wife told me "calm down, you have 3 weeks", wemmins, they just don't understand
About got my reserve water tank almost back in, found the crappy gip board they originally used, had bowed to the point that allowed it to push through, damn thing was riding on one of the darn axles! Pulled the cheap [censored] angle iron they used and made a replacement out of 3/16" angle, crap they used was 1/16th!
, this to hold up a 30 gal water tank SMDH
Still have to wash it and check all the seals/caulk around everything on the roof, hook up the Tailgator
Kind of thinking I'd like to go a week early, but that amount of time by myself would get boring.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/14/15 06:36 PM
When are you heading up Western? I think I remember you saying you were hunting just over the mountain from where we are going to be?
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/14/15 06:47 PM
Yes, about 20-30 miles I'd say. I hunt 1st limited season (draw tag, bull or cow)
Kickoff for me starts on 10/10/15 and runs through 10/14/15
2 years ago I hunted the same season and ended up having to buy a polaris 800, just to get close to my spot, it rained and snowed for most of my hunt and the days prior, was a muddy mess. Got my bull and thank goodness it was rocky enough to get to the FR where he fell, 1st bull I ever got out whole (was a MOFO by myslef, but the boards helped a ton.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/14/15 06:53 PM
You planning to swing over after your hunt? The boards look like they made it quit a bit easier. I plan on building a "shelf" in the bed of my truck with some 2x6s and plywood. Maybe we can shoot one in the road too and load it up right there. lol
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/14/15 06:54 PM
This one I got last year on day 3 or 4 iirc, Same season yall will be there this year and same time Sneaky and crew where up there last year. Never worked so hard getting a bull out in my life, actually called the wife half way down and told her "this is my last trip, my body just can't do it anymore". Several people saw the bull go down and didn't offer to help, but sure wanted to pick my brain back at camp....They got bad misinformation too
As you can tell, I elk hunt, not "trophy" hunt, as I only hunt Public land.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/14/15 06:59 PM
You planning to swing over after your hunt? The boards look like they made it quit a bit easier. I plan on building a "shelf" in the bed of my truck with some 2x6s and plywood. Maybe we can shoot one in the road too and load it up right there. lol
You got that right, Shot mine as he was about to run across the road and he piled up about 4 yards and uphill of the mud road, took me about 45 minutes of pushing and pulling, but I got that dude in whole, I was stoked. A bull is a lot of animal.
I doubt y'all will even be there by the time my hunt is over, I was going to try and get by their camp last year, but Sneaky felt the road was too bad for me and the toy hauler, photos of y'alss camp looked like plenty of room, just the road getting to it.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/14/15 07:01 PM
I know that spot!!!!
well done
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/14/15 07:03 PM
Here is how the bull lay when I finally got to him by the road
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/14/15 07:04 PM
I remembered reading about the one you got last year and no one helping out. lol Sure looks like pretty country
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/14/15 07:05 PM
I know that spot!!!!
well done
Yes sir, you'd be surprised how many fellas I took before that wouldn't hunt here because it wasn't "elky" SMH, go hunt in an OUTDOOR LIFE magazine then LOL
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/14/15 07:05 PM
Speaking of that, does anyone that is going have a winch? Doubt we'll need one, but you never know.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/14/15 07:07 PM
I know that spot!!!!
well done
Yes sir, you'd be surprised how many fellas I took before that wouldn't hunt here because it wasn't "elky" SMH, go hunt in an OUTDOOR LIFE magazine then LOL
Some of my buddies "hiked" in 8 miles last year in Idaho... I said why? How many did you pass on the road? They brought motorcycles this year
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/14/15 07:11 PM
I remembered reading about the one you got last year and no one helping out. lol Sure looks like pretty country
Yes sir, part of the reason I hunt alone so much anymore. Folks seem to really change when they have a hunt on the line, the ones that don't are a true pleasure to hunt with. I learned a little late that you have to protect your "secret spots", I have been burned many a time, but a few fellas have been great as well, it's a crap shoot really.
BOBO can probably explain it better than I can, without me sounding stingy, which I am not, just protective LOL
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/14/15 07:15 PM
I know that spot!!!!
well done
Yes sir, you'd be surprised how many fellas I took before that wouldn't hunt here because it wasn't "elky" SMH, go hunt in an OUTDOOR LIFE magazine then LOL
Some of my buddies "hiked" in 8 miles last year in Idaho... I said why? How many did you pass on the road? They brought motorcycles this year
See those fellas every year LOL I was fortunate to have locals, some being guides, teach me waaay back, then add what I have learned over 30 or so years, I want to work a little as possible.
BTW, you where just there, probably drove within 5 miles of where those 2 bulls fell. I know you know where since we have talked about it.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/14/15 07:19 PM
BOBO, you probably should know this area as well, that is the La Salles in the left upper corner. My wife helping me get this one out from about 2 miles in, she is a real trooper and my favorite hunting buddy when and if she goes.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/14/15 07:24 PM
Before you told me I would of never guessed that area help Bulls before 4th season. Mulies and BH years but not Bulls.
Opened my eyes a little bit... I keep looking for Forest roads to explore. Wife was getting annoyed... You just spent two days glassing,,, YesBaby but this an area you could hunt... I got the eye roll
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/14/15 07:38 PM
BOBO, I have a friend that had 11k acres (before his divorce LOL) Most of their other land is high, but this 11k acres holds a small herd and at 4-4500 feet elevation year round. Honestly, by 4th season, there could be some of these bulls plum down to where you where the other day.
Over the years, I have seen them move through here, sometimes up and down 5-10 miles in 24 hrs or less, back and forth depending on a few factors.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/14/15 07:40 PM
Your wife elk hunt too btw? Or are you just trying to get her to take that 1st step?
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/14/15 07:44 PM
My wife said she would have considered going, but she cant take that much off from school as a teacher. The more I think about it though, I'm kind of glad she's not going (don't tell her I said that
). She cant sit in a deer stand more than about 3 or 4 hours and then she's done.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/14/15 07:48 PM
Your wife elk hunt top btw? Or are you just trying to get her to take that 1st step?
She keeps asking, I keep telling her to pick up a bow.
I think I'm going to put her in for a first season rifle tag next year, I might cash in some points for archery to pre scout for her. She has enough that she should draw.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/14/15 07:51 PM
My wife said she would have considered going, but she cant take that much off from school as a teacher. The more I think about it though, I'm kind of glad she's not going (don't tell her I said that
). She cant sit in a deer stand more than about 3 or 4 hours and then she's done.
Don't discount her, I did mine for many years, you'd be surprised how fun hunting with your wife is, even better with other couples you get along with. (if you get along LOL)
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/14/15 07:54 PM
Your wife elk hunt top btw? Or are you just trying to get her to take that 1st step?
She keeps asking, I keep telling her to pick up a bow.
I think I'm going to put her in for a first season rifle tag next year, I might cash in some points for archery to pre scout for her. She has enough that she should draw.
Crap BOBO, I'd let her use a rifle and be done with it, just as fun with a higher percentage. Shoot, going up for a 3-4 week excursion would be killer, you bow hunt and by the time she goes out with that 1st season tag, you will have them patterned. Plus that tag is good for bull or cow, so meat hits the freezer.
Heck, she may get into it more than you in a few years LOL. I will tell you what, if the wife likes the Rockies, life sure is a lot easier on those expensive trips.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/14/15 07:59 PM
Be the best thing me archery hunt it come home rest up and head back up.
I'm really scared she would love it. she hunts with me a lot as it is.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/14/15 07:59 PM
My wife said she would have considered going, but she cant take that much off from school as a teacher. The more I think about it though, I'm kind of glad she's not going (don't tell her I said that
). She cant sit in a deer stand more than about 3 or 4 hours and then she's done.
Don't discount her, I did mine for many years, you'd be surprised how fun hunting with your wife is, even better with other couples you get along with. (if you get along LOL)
I think its fun when she deer hunts with me. Last year she actually got really excited about hunting right before season. I tried getting her on a nice 10 point last year for her first deer, but couldn't get her situated in a comfortable shooting position as a new hunter. She's not nearly as excited this year as last, but she may come around the closer we get. Although, I've been pretty discouraged this year...not a single deer on cam in the past month.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/14/15 08:16 PM
I had forgot about the guys not helping you and getting some misinformation for their trouble. Still cracks me up.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/14/15 08:21 PM
I had forgot about the guys not helping you and getting some misinformation for their trouble. Still cracks me up.
I'd put them into the nastiest, deepest canyon with downed aspen I could think of ... as far away from the closest road or even a goat trail.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/14/15 09:18 PM
I had forgot about the guys not helping you and getting some misinformation for their trouble. Still cracks me up.
Yes sir, I knew where a herd was too, not a large herd, maybe 15-20 head, but 2 decent bulls from what it looked like in the binos. That is where I was headed if I had not tagged out.
Posted By: JJHunts
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/14/15 09:33 PM
Dang nice, JJ. You kill him with that Bowtech or the cedar branch? Seems like a toss up, to me, on performance.
Darn, thats harsh! The bull was taken with the Carbon Icon and the bush was to cover up the huge hole the Bow Tech administered with help from a 125gr Rage Hypodermic.
Good luck to you boys!
Dinner tonight is!!!!!!!!!
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/14/15 09:46 PM
JJ, I'd be happy if I killed that bull with a stick. Back-strap going to be good too!
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/14/15 10:05 PM
Can't argue with backstraps!
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/15/15 10:52 AM
Can't argue with backstraps!
I hope I am blessed with the opportunity!!!
Posted By: bp3
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/15/15 07:28 PM
The only information I would give to the lazy ones is don't eat yellow snow.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/16/15 03:48 PM
30 days till we leave ...
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/16/15 04:18 PM
30 days till we leave ...
You could leave early for some father and son time.....I think there is some real estate he wanted to show you
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/16/15 04:21 PM
Western.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/16/15 04:27 PM
Western.
Just trying to "hep" you out young feller
No point in you having to rough it like us getting older fellas have. Never underestimate the value of comfort, Southern comfort even (best booboo i can do)
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/16/15 04:33 PM
I've roughed it a few times in my day but appreciate it
Would be nice to have a place up there, huh dad?
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/16/15 05:18 PM
yep, would be nice! but it would have to be waterfront on a constant level lake (or close to constant) ... otherwise, mom would likely poopoo the idea, and likely would anyway since she likes warm water.
Hey, at least you aren't sleeping in a tent on the hard cold ground ...
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/16/15 05:19 PM
Yeah dad?? I bet ZK would volunteer to keep up the place too
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/16/15 05:45 PM
Sure would and my wife would only go in the summers. She hates the cold lol
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/16/15 05:53 PM
its cold at night even during the summers ...
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/16/15 05:55 PM
its cold at night even during the summers ...
Ah FIREPLACE....HELLOOO
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/16/15 05:56 PM
BTW, any of you fellas try WIFI up there in the field? namely verizon jet pack?? I get a couple bars on my dumb phone, so thinking I could use my Jetpack to log on to THF while I am there.
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/16/15 06:43 PM
yep, would be nice! but it would have to be waterfront on a constant level lake (or close to constant) ... otherwise, mom would likely poopoo the idea, and likely would anyway since she likes warm water.
Hey, at least you aren't sleeping in a tent on the hard cold ground ...
Oh, so you're looking for a place on Blue Mesa! Well, my friend, you're in luck! I happen to know a person about to sell a property at the head waters. The water is warm most of the year in comparison to it being a solid block of ice in Feb so IT has what you WANT! There is a catch, for me to inform you of this details of this actual property, I will need you to sign a waiver that says if a person or persons, drives onto your property on a golf cart and shoots a giant chocolate horned mule deer buck, you or your agent will not press ANY charges against that person/persons. It's a really good deal on a rare gem.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/16/15 07:17 PM
does said Blue Mesa property have acreage and waterfront? lodging? this might work ...
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/16/15 07:19 PM
PMK, have you ever seen Blue Meas? It is a long deep lake, with what I hear awesome fishing (I never made it that far to fish
) Surrounded by some of the roughest terrain God put in the lower 48 too
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/16/15 07:32 PM
I guess BOBO is already gone up to harass the natives? Wonder if he will post updates? All I know is he better use that Gold rope I gave him to tie up my bull, best fitty I ever spent
There is where you went wrong Sneaky, got to pay for that edge when you have a feller going up the season prior, drive up, get your bull opening day and reeeelax...
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/16/15 08:04 PM
does said Blue Mesa property have acreage and waterfront? lodging? this might work ...
lol...The answer could be yes to all of those..going to need that waiver signed though. Honestly it's a big working cattle ranch and part of it comes down to waterfront, but it's a few miles from the actual house. There was just a deer holed up between that property and the golf course last year that drove me crazy and I had to walk all the way around that property to get a good look at the property boundary, but shot something else on the way. Who knows what that guy actually wants for it.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/16/15 08:16 PM
Probably more than most of us are worth Rifleman, of course it's pocket change for PMK
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/16/15 08:35 PM
Probably more than most of us are worth Rifleman, of course it's pocket change for PMK
... I wish! Do you think if I had pockets that deep I would be going on a public land elk hunt?
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/16/15 08:41 PM
Probably more than most of us are worth Rifleman, of course it's pocket change for PMK
... I wish! Do you think if I had pockets that deep I would be going on a public land elk hunt?
I have a buddy that does and he makes pretty darn good, of course he also does the outfitter thing too, so...
Maybe you are just up for the public land challenge
Funny, when I 1st started frequenting Colorado, you could by almost anywhere for $100 acre or less once you got out of town. I think it is that per square foot now, insane.
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/16/15 08:44 PM
Probably more than most of us are worth Rifleman, of course it's pocket change for PMK
... I wish! Do you think if I had pockets that deep I would be going on a public land elk hunt?
You could and the only reason you're tagging along on the hunt is to see everyone's faces when the girls jump out of the cakes at camp.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/16/15 08:56 PM
Probably more than most of us are worth Rifleman, of course it's pocket change for PMK
... I wish! Do you think if I had pockets that deep I would be going on a public land elk hunt?
You could and the only reason you're tagging along on the hunt is to see everyone's faces when the girls jump out of the cakes at camp.
OK, that changes everything, that sounds like more fun than I have.....I had asked Sneaky if I could go with y'all, he was uncharacteristically nice and only said ^%$# no...so...At least he was nice about it though LOL
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/16/15 11:08 PM
I said that? Must have been in a good mood.
I don't think the guys knew about the cake, yet.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/16/15 11:14 PM
yep, spoiled the fun on the cake ... we need to come up with plan B ...
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/16/15 11:18 PM
It still can work and charge admission for anyone driving down the divide. Might end up with a free hunt from the collections.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/16/15 11:21 PM
We could make a badger.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/16/15 11:28 PM
It still can work and charge admission for anyone driving down the divide. Might end up with a free hunt from the collections.
Kinda wondering if you should be adding to this thread after blowing the girl and the cake party
I was starting to think about that movie scene in "Under siege" That was pretty good "frosting", so thanks rifleman..geeeez... Anyone see that movie? cake wasn't to shabby huh
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/16/15 11:30 PM
yep, spoiled the fun on the cake ... we need to come up with plan B ...
You dwont like plan "B", I heard it was Sneaky and rifleman wearing speedos doing their rendition of "sound of music"
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/16/15 11:41 PM
plan C then ...
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/16/15 11:50 PM
I don't have much faith in whatever plan c would be.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/16/15 11:51 PM
Plan B was a hit, last time.
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/16/15 11:55 PM
He lies.
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/16/15 11:56 PM
Plan B was a hit, last time.
Smh...now I know what Texas group stopped by that little green building outside of Alamosa.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/16/15 11:57 PM
Money well spent....both times.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/16/15 11:58 PM
People don't throw ones around like that when they aren't having fun.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/16/15 11:59 PM
And none of it involved the infamous casinos, that is usually where secrets occur on those trips
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/17/15 12:07 AM
I've yet to step foot in one. Have in MT though bc it was across the road from a pharmacy/rooftop bar and thought it couldn't hurt. It was a rough crowd.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/17/15 12:48 AM
Never been in a casino. Nothing against it. Just never seemed like a good idea for me.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/17/15 12:52 AM
I never been in just one either
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/17/15 11:16 AM
Getting real close!
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/17/15 01:51 PM
Yes sir it is. I just realized we leave in 4 weeks from today.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/17/15 02:01 PM
Yes sir it is. I just realized we leave in 4 weeks from today.
Y'all are going to be there on Friday?
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/17/15 02:03 PM
Planning to be there Thursday night. Between my dad and I, we can put some miles on a truck in a day.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/17/15 02:10 PM
OK, leaving on a Thursday AM? Avoid Albuquerque during rush hr. I will leave 2 hrs earlier or later just to avoid that nightmare.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/17/15 02:15 PM
Yes sir. That is the plan at least
Posted By: Sq2 hunter
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/17/15 02:23 PM
How many days yall hunting this year?
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/17/15 02:27 PM
Don't recall if you and your dad have been there before, but good idea to fuel up in Bernallilo, Not much but Cuba between there and Bloomfield.
If you head up to Aztec then, you can catch fm 574, it is a rough, crappy asphalt road, but it shaves nearly 30 minutes off, then catch 170 North to Hesperus to HWY 160 (deer should start getting thick here, so keep an eye out). When you get to Mancos, take a right on 184 (only light in town and 184 is a good road) and it will take you just S. of Dolores. This should get you a 4 hr drive from Bernallilo to Dolores more or less depending on how you drive.
BTW, get close to Cuba, mainly on the North side, watch out for elk, we have had a few "run in-s" along that stretch and you don't want to be broke down on, or near a Res.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/17/15 02:27 PM
9 days, Oct. 17-25
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/17/15 02:33 PM
Good to know Western. I was just looking at different routes this morning and we'll probably end up going through Durango. We were planning to just pick our tags up there, and get any last minute things if we forgot anything.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/17/15 02:41 PM
Good to know Western. I was just looking at different routes this morning and we'll probably end up going through Durango. We were planning to just pick our tags up there, and get any last minute things if we forgot anything.
OH, yeah in that case that is the way to do it, I did that very thing 2 years ago, Walmart open 24/7 and they have a great hunting section along with the normal food stuff. I also believe they carry the good game bags for like $19 iirc (worked on that store a few years ago). Get there after 10pm and you have the run of the place since most the college kids will be in bed.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/18/15 12:14 AM
OH, yeah in that case that is the way to do it, I did that very thing 2 years ago, Walmart open 24/7 and they have a great hunting section along with the normal food stuff. I also believe they carry the good game bags for like $19 iirc (worked on that store a few years ago). Get there after 10pm and you have the run of the place since most the college kids will be in bed.
Good to know!
Posted By: Sabot
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/18/15 01:01 AM
I'll be hunting solo in 71 within about 20 miles of you guys. Good luck!
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/18/15 01:15 AM
I always end up getting fuel in Cuba, for some reason. We also go from Bloomfield to Aztec. When we were up there on the 4th, we went up through Durango, then to Hesperus. On the way back, we took the backroad back to Aztec. Seemed like a better drive.
Posted By: Sq2 hunter
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/18/15 03:19 AM
Good luck guys. I'm heading to unit 68 the Thursaday before opener.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/18/15 05:32 AM
Same to you.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/18/15 12:05 PM
I'll be hunting solo in 71 within about 20 miles of you guys. Good luck!
You must be close to the "Cone"
Posted By: Sabot
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/18/15 12:38 PM
About 7 miles south of Rico on the south side of 145
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/18/15 12:44 PM
OK, doesn't sound maybe 5-10 miles from the guys camp
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/18/15 04:31 PM
Getting a little antsy fellas.......
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/18/15 04:36 PM
Just a wee bit lol
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/18/15 05:19 PM
Yeah, you'd think I would be calm as a cucumber, done this trip a gazillion times, but..........Got the deep freeze cleaned out ready for my elk meat.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/18/15 05:24 PM
I was actually just talking to my wife about the deep freeze last night. I really need to do the same.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/18/15 05:39 PM
Yes sir, thinking positive
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/18/15 05:40 PM
ZK have you had elk meat before?
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/18/15 05:43 PM
Yup. My uncle gave me a few links of his sausage that he made a while back. Stuck er in the smoker for a while and it was amazing!
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/18/15 05:45 PM
When my dad shot his elk, I had some of his also, but was too young to remember it
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/18/15 05:52 PM
Well, when you get yours, I doubt you will want to make much into a sausage, it is great as is without killing the flavor. I use deer for the stuff like that, most I do to elk is mix in a bit of beef fat with the burger.
One thing that will probably start ww3, no matter what anyone tells you, break that bull down ASAP, get it cooling as soon as you can. If you have to leave it in the field overnight, get it as high off the ground with logs/rocks as you can and prop it open. You wont know the difference until you eat some that wasn't taken care of. BTW, thicker skin on the neck, similar to buffalo (not near as bad) but if you aren't going to cape, or even if you are, try to open that skin as well, quite a lot of chili and burger meat on the neck.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/18/15 05:53 PM
ZK, sorry, not trying to tell you what to do, do what you want, just a heads up
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/18/15 06:06 PM
Thanks for the advice. It's def needed. I had a few bites of I'm guessing backstrap while at my uncles since he just pulled some out of his smoker, but he didn't give me any to take home lol. It was very good.
I'm guessing do it similar to deer? I get my deer processed from a guy here local, but I normally get burger, pan sausage, roast, some of his regular sausage (whatever his minimum amount is), jalapeno & cheese sausage, cutlets, and leave the backstraps whole.
For deer, Dad found a recipe somewhere that says to butterfly the backstraps and stuff them with cream cheese, pan sausage, jalapenos, & onions, then wrap in bacon. Smoke it really well then smear bbq sauce on it for the last 45minutes to an hour. Dang I just made myself hungry again lol.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/18/15 06:34 PM
Yes it will process just like deer, just a hell of a lot more of it LOL It is just a big animal, it holds body heat longer, so the faster you can get it cool, the better the flavor. You can even cold season it as well, just keep it at, or under 42 degrees if you can.
Just treat it like prime beef meat and you will be happy anyway you cook it.
If you speak with a processor up there (probably the same here in some cases), a good processor can tell you what side of the bull/cow laid on the ground (insulated), you do not want that, you want good ,fast meat cooling and good air circulation.
The weather will be cooler somewhat when y'all get there, which helps a lot, you can break the quarters down at camp and hang if it's cool out (in the shade). I usually get mine out in qtrs (by myself most of the time) and either take it to a local processor there, or remove hide and clean and put on ice with drain open as you would a deer. For the trip home, I will stop at any grocer and get about 5-10# of dry ice.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/18/15 06:42 PM
Any idea if processers up there can get one processed in the amount of time that we will be there? Some of the processers here take 2-3 weeks to get your deer back depending on time of season and who the processor is.
And Yetis don't need no stinkin dry ice
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/18/15 07:03 PM
Sorry bud, don't know around Dolores, but Sneaky may, I'm sure there are a few around there, or Mancos/Cortez.
Most processors there can get you done in a day or 2, they are used to it since many out of state hunters are there. The ones I use, always ask when I'm leaving and will usually get it done unless You want it same day, almost always done by the following day if you get it in early.
If you don't do it yourself at home, you can still haul the meat home in your "YETI"
Just make darn sure you trust the folks you use, you don't want to come up 20# light because they wanted to try some prime elk
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/18/15 07:05 PM
Just have your dad buy a processor with an attached house there, then no worries and we have a place to take our meat
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/18/15 07:15 PM
hahaha Processor, big walk in cooler and a house attached sounds good to me. Where'd he go? We need to talk about this.
He's actually off today getting the trailer prepped for the Co. trip with some new shoes and going to sight in his new scope
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/18/15 07:17 PM
It'll take more than just my 75 yeti. When I got my meat back from the buck I shot last year, with zero ice in my cooler, it wouldn't all fit. So I highly doubt an elk will.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/18/15 09:21 PM
Well, you could leave some with the fellas LOL
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/18/15 09:25 PM
lol They gotta shoot their own! We'll bring extra coolers for the ride home
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/18/15 09:27 PM
I have taken the same 2 ragged 120qts for years, they will get it back home, but weigh a ton.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/18/15 09:31 PM
Sounds like you need a bigger cooler, as do I if we're planning to haul 2 bulls home lol
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/18/15 09:46 PM
Hard part is getting the rack in one
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/18/15 09:48 PM
lmao I have a camper shell for that. Hope it fits in there
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/18/15 09:58 PM
Well, if it doesn't, just take an axe, or chain saw to it until it goes in, no big deal.....
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/18/15 09:59 PM
Want to make your 1st one special? Make sure you get the hide tanned, you will be glad you did.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/18/15 10:13 PM
I was just going to do a simple skull cap or euro mount. May try to talk the woman into a tanned hide. We will see how that goes
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/18/15 10:17 PM
I was just going to do a simple skull cap or euro mount. May try to talk the woman into a tanned hide. We will see how that goes
You can store it frozen for a while, one of the guys on here from Waco did one for me last year, for a great price. You could keep it frozen until you put enough in the coffee can to get it started.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/18/15 10:27 PM
I was talking about her letting me leave it out in the house lol. She might, you never know. She does have a cow rug
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/18/15 10:32 PM
About 7 miles south of Rico on the south side of 145
That's just down the road. Stop by our camp, if you get a chance.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/18/15 10:33 PM
Want to make your 1st one special? Make sure you get the hide tanned, you will be glad you did.
Always wanted to do that. Just waiting for one to die in the right spot to make it worth the trouble.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/18/15 11:50 PM
Hey, the message board is full and I don't know how to start a new one???
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/19/15 12:39 AM
I was trying to figure it out but can't on my phone. Will try when I get home from dinner
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/19/15 12:40 AM
I got this.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/19/15 05:39 AM
Want to make your 1st one special? Make sure you get the hide tanned, you will be glad you did.
Always wanted to do that. Just waiting for one to die in the right spot to make it worth the trouble.
With all the help you have, just kill one already, then you can get it out no problem.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/19/15 05:41 AM
I was talking about her letting me leave it out in the house lol. She might, you never know. She does have a cow rug
They are nice, make great throws, coffee table covers, or just folded over a chair, or one of those blanket holders with a rod thingy. Or if you have a nice gun cabinet, you could use it as a nice inside liner.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/19/15 04:17 PM
A tan hide could be interesting...
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/19/15 04:23 PM
Here is the one the THF member in Waco did for me last year, crappy cell photo. It is actually much bigger than it appears.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/19/15 05:29 PM
Looks great! May look into that. If you don't mind, what did he charge you for it?
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/19/15 06:00 PM
Right at $250. His Dad lives in the mid cities, so he is up here regularly, I dropped it of in Waco headed to a job and he brought it up with other orders (he is a taxidermist)
He may be out of business?? I couldn't pull up his web page
Cross Hare Taxidermy--Brandon Deaver
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/19/15 06:48 PM
I just got a hide back from last year's buck. I'd love to have an elk hide to go with it.
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/20/15 02:12 AM
Ok, sorry for the absence. I have been in Port Arthur TX for the last week mobilizing some of my equipment, been putting in 18 hour days and so forth. First time I have touched a computer in over a week. Tried to keep up on my phone, but........ Good news is my pedometer on my phone says I have been doing up to 6 miles a day!!! I know there has been discussion in the pm's about who all is still going. My brother and I are going, my buddy from work is not. I think my brother is even more excited than I am! As I said before I will be altering my route to swing up to southern OK to pick up my brother and then heading off from there. If any one needs a ride from DFW I will be through there Thursday afternoon. After this trip offshore, I am ready for some down time. Sorry I missed the meet up today.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/20/15 02:14 AM
I think that makes 8 of us going, so far. That's a good number.
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/20/15 02:19 AM
Western, that is one cool hide! If I get one, I think I will do that. Can't afford a shoulder mount, but can do a European myself and then get the hide done. Sweet! Now I just have to kill one!
Posted By: catfishsalsa
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/20/15 04:59 AM
I'm up in 71 now....bulls are talkin'! I'll post report later this week....we r not far at all from where yall will be hunting. :thumb:
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/20/15 10:29 AM
I have a guy here that said he and his wife would brain tan a hide if I got one. He was as excited about the idea as I was...
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/20/15 01:05 PM
I have a guy here that said he and his wife would brain tan a hide if I got one. He was as excited about the idea as I was...
The old "Indian" way
Make sure you tell them to use the "smartest" brain between the 2 of them
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/20/15 06:52 PM
I'm up in 71 now....bulls are talkin'! I'll post report later this week....we r not far at all from where yall will be hunting. :thumb:
I bet they are. The area we hunt is loaded with sign from the rut. Always figured it was a good archery hunt.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/20/15 07:04 PM
I'm up in 71 now....bulls are talkin'! I'll post report later this week....we r not far at all from where yall will be hunting. :thumb:
I bet they are. The area we hunt is loaded with sign from the rut. Always figured it was a good archery hunt.
Yes sir.
Catfish, be a good guy and leave Sneaky's crew a cord of stacked wood
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/21/15 03:01 PM
I'm up in 71 now....bulls are talkin'! I'll post report later this week....we r not far at all from where yall will be hunting. :thumb:
I bet they are. The area we hunt is loaded with sign from the rut. Always figured it was a good archery hunt.
Yes sir.
Catfish, be a good guy and leave Sneaky's crew a cord of stacked wood
with GPS coordinates
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/21/15 07:21 PM
I have about 2 weeks to get ready, with work and few business days off, I will be under the gun.
Just realized my tent needs to get inspected so I can get tags, then I have to get a couple of tires, always something
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/21/15 09:03 PM
tent inspected needs tags? huh???
made good progress over the weekend ... got pop-up cab-over camper tied down to trailer and the large toolbox across the front of the trailer cleaned out (thanks ZK-315 for the help!!!) for additional storage. 4 new Carlisle trailer tires on the ground with two spares just in case. Wife took trailer this morning to get ritualistic inspection to convert from Farm tags to regular since going out of state, getting wheel bearings packed/checked today/tomorrow ... trailer / camper should be close to ready to roll ... still need to check propane connections and replace one known line issue to heater.
took rifle to indoor 100 yard range to site in new scope and got it fairly well shot in before I got to flinching a bit from re-coil. Will hit Best of the West longer range within the next couple of weeks.
Posted By: crosshare
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/21/15 09:56 PM
Right at $250. His Dad lives in the mid cities, so he is up here regularly, I dropped it of in Waco headed to a job and he brought it up with other orders (he is a taxidermist)
He may be out of business?? I couldn't pull up his web page
Cross Hare Taxidermy--Brandon Deaver
Dennis, I'm still around, just lurking
Website is down and I closed to the public cause they are either
or
I still do some work on the side for family and friends or people I know.
I hope y'all all have a great time and safe travels!
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/21/15 10:02 PM
Just realized my tent needs to get inspected so I can get tags, :
Huh? Did I miss something?
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/21/15 10:15 PM
Joe, PMK my "tent"
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/21/15 10:17 PM
Right at $250. His Dad lives in the mid cities, so he is up here regularly, I dropped it of in Waco headed to a job and he brought it up with other orders (he is a taxidermist)
He may be out of business?? I couldn't pull up his web page
Cross Hare Taxidermy--Brandon Deaver
Dennis, I'm still around, just lurking
Website is down and I closed to the public cause they are either
or
I still do some work on the side for family and friends or people I know.
I hope y'all all have a great time and safe travels!
That is great Brandon, I get compliments on my hide all the time
Hope you still doing hides and these fellas can load you up, heck I might even do another if you're still doing a few. Don't disappear LOL
Posted By: crosshare
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/21/15 10:26 PM
Give me a holler if you want me to do another one for ya!
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/21/15 10:36 PM
Joe, PMK my "tent"
ah ha! maybe you are the one that needs to buy the cabin with attached processing place ...
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/21/15 10:49 PM
I can't PMK, Spent all my $ on the tent!
Up to you brudda, get the place and we will kill some elk!!
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/21/15 11:01 PM
ha! yeah, my wife tells me I have too many hobbies and I hunt too much (is that even possible?) ... so I have to have toys for her hobbies too ...
which is likely about as expensive as a "tent" ...
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/21/15 11:15 PM
I bet you paid more for that than my tent cost
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/22/15 12:49 AM
I know where I am going when I get cold on the ground...
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/22/15 05:47 AM
Joe, PMK my "tent"
I was going to rib you about the money you spent on your "tent", 'til I realized the hotel we're staying in this week is where Kate Middleton and her family stayed in before the wedding. 'Gonna be so poor when we get home I won't be able to pay attention.
May big bulls fall to every one of you boys.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/22/15 06:02 AM
CR if it want for NFCU and a damn good deal, I wouldn't have it, the wife said I roughed it enough and I didn't argue with her...Easier to set up than the last "tent" I had, just more to "get there"
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/22/15 10:57 AM
My $75.00 ugly truck cap pales in comparison! Sorry you have to rough it Dennis.
Joe
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/22/15 12:59 PM
CR if it want for NFCU and a damn good deal, I wouldn't have it, the wife said I roughed it enough and I didn't argue with her...Easier to set up than the last "tent" I had, just more to "get there"
It's pretty handy that it lightens itself on the way up, though.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/22/15 01:08 PM
My $75.00 ugly truck cap pales in comparison! Sorry you have to rough it Dennis.
Joe
Joe, if you had seen some of the places I have stayed in to hunt, you'd be mighty proud of that cap! Tents was getting tough to do with my back and bones crappin out, so spent a year looking for camper and that "right deal", been a learning experience for sure.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/22/15 01:14 PM
CR if it want for NFCU and a damn good deal, I wouldn't have it, the wife said I roughed it enough and I didn't argue with her...Easier to set up than the last "tent" I had, just more to "get there"
It's pretty handy that it lightens itself on the way up, though.
Really doesn't cost me much more than my work trailer with the Duramax, the hardest part for me is slowing down, I am used to running the speed limit plus 5, it does shrink areas I can camp to a degree.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/22/15 02:15 PM
Keeping the highway watered could get expensive.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/22/15 02:34 PM
Keeping the highway watered could get expensive.
Man that's no lie
I forgot I mentioned that! Just about have that all done and it wont happen again. SMH every time I go under there and think of how they did that.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/22/15 04:15 PM
Leaky tank Western?
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/22/15 05:31 PM
Yeah, last year I hauled both freshwater tanks half full of water, got to Cortez Walmart, when I came out, water running from the camper to the front of the store. Morons used OSB as support under the water tanks, of course they failed and the tank slid through the angle iron. Leak came from the transfer hose as it rubbed through riding on the angle.
Really sucked last year, had to keep a 5 gallon bucket of water in the shower for the commode. Heat, TV, cd player and had electric power from the Onan, so it wasn't to bad "roughing it".
I have replaced the OSB with treated plywood and I will weld up a angle iron double cross bar, so this never happens again.
Got to get the new tailgater satellite in and ready to go, got a hell of a deal because of a THF member that sounded the alarm on a sale ( At Nebraska furniture mart), paid $199 for the auto antenna, box, cable and all extra hardware, saved at least $300- 400! Now I can watch the Cowboys while am breaking down my bull
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/22/15 05:52 PM
Wow, that sucks. People and their Jerry rigs lol. I've done my fare share of them, but try to make things that will last. Satellite while breaking down your bull?? I think we all need to come hunt where you are. We might all be able to fit in that big tent of yours.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/22/15 06:04 PM
It technically will sleep 8 or 10 if you put the table down. Has those 2 queens in the toy hauler part that raise up and down, Ranger just barely fits in there
10-4 on the jerry rigging, I have done it when in a pinch, but will always go over kill if I can. For what these rigs cost, you'd think they'd pony up the treated wood, at least for something running on the fricken bottom.
I bought it used 2 times, by a family that went to Nascar races, they traded it in for one of the 100k+ RV's, I got it for what the dealer gave on trade since he doesn't want "cheap stuff" around those high end "trucks"
Sold new for right at 50k plus tax, Loan value when I got it was 39k, I paid around 21k and have put in about 1k working on the generator and fuel tank, had 5 year old gas in it still from the damn factory
Runs like a champ now though..
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/22/15 06:13 PM
What's the length on that trailer? I saw the trip axels under it...that's a loooong bumper pull.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/22/15 06:14 PM
32'+tongue
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/22/15 06:17 PM
yup, that's a pretty good size trailer.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/22/15 06:17 PM
It is a long BP, but it had everything I was looking for without the upper master bedroom. I did look at a trade in Goose, same manufacturer, had a cool sliding door to the toy side, guy wanted 45ki for it!
Plus I wanted the truck bed room. Goose would sure pull nice, but this thing doesnt sway at all and that is with a 7' interior!
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/22/15 06:21 PM
Ouch, that's a pretty good jump in price. Those sway controls on a bp helps a lot. My dad's isn't near that big of a trailer, but you can really tell if you have the sway bars hooked up vs. not having them. Short trips we didn't hook them up very much, but on the longer ones we would and it was night and day.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/22/15 06:25 PM
I don't have the sway set up, haven't needed it, what you see in the photo is a weight distribution system. pulls str8 as an arrow, even in a cross wind, but I can feel if a big rig passes me.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/22/15 06:26 PM
They do help with sway a tad though, just don't have the sway system that can come with this Reese set up
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/22/15 06:35 PM
My bad. The weight distribution hitch is was I meant.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/22/15 07:27 PM
yep, just load distribution on mine but I do have the sway stabilizer, but never needed it. As ZK stated, rarely ever use the load distribution hitch unless going longer distances, merely a 4" drop with 2-5/8 ball as our 2500 handle the weight just fine. 32' is a LONG BP, mine is only 28' but I have pulled my brother's old 38' BP, talk about getting tossed around by cross wind & 18 wheelers!
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/22/15 07:43 PM
PMK, you're only 4' shorter than mine, so not a huge difference, the height on the other hand may be. I have never pulled mine without the WDH since I use that hitch, might as well put the bars on.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/22/15 08:51 PM
anything under an hour drive, just a regular 4" drop ball mount, anything farther, put WDH on. I know mine is pretty tall, or so it seems and can feel like a parachute with a stiff head wind but doesn't hardly squat the back of the truck.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/22/15 10:21 PM
I get more "squat" in the 3/4 ton, then I do in the 1 ton. I need to spend more time adjusting it on the 3/4 ton since it is a more comfortable truck.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/23/15 12:15 AM
PMK, it will be interesting to hear from you after you take yours into the camp.
Posted By: Wilhunt
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/23/15 12:27 AM
Dennis , I think your tent looks super...much like mine. The old days with real tents are for the younger folks . Enjoy what you have folks, young and older.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/23/15 12:41 AM
Joe, if you had seen some of the places I have stayed in to hunt, you'd be mighty proud of that cap! Tents was getting tough to do with my back and bones crappin out, so spent a year looking for camper and that "right deal", been a learning experience for sure.
Dennis, I'm pretty happy with my outfit really! Can't wait!
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/23/15 09:34 AM
Dennis , I think your tent looks super...much like mine. The old days with real tents are for the younger folks . Enjoy what you have folks, young and older.
Thank you sir, and you have that right! I still enjoy the tent camping, but not putting one up again by myself. Getting to where I like this, set up and done deal.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/23/15 09:35 AM
Joe, if you had seen some of the places I have stayed in to hunt, you'd be mighty proud of that cap! Tents was getting tough to do with my back and bones crappin out, so spent a year looking for camper and that "right deal", been a learning experience for sure.
Dennis, I'm pretty happy with my outfit really! Can't wait!
Wont be long and you will be breathing cool Rocky mountain air
I leave around the 7th , may bug out on the 6th LOL
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/23/15 11:16 AM
I am leaving behind a 35' fifth wheel that is pretty darn comfortable.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/23/15 01:27 PM
PMK, it will be interesting to hear from you after you take yours into the camp.
ZK & I discussed taking the travel trailer but wasn't sure about getting it up to the camping area, plus the drastic drop in fuel mileage of pulling a parachute 2k miles round trip. We are taking a flatbed trailer with a pop-up cab-over camper that will tuck in nicely behind the camper shell on ZK's truck with a nice sized space behind the cab-over for ice chests and antlers
for the ride home. I found the cab-over for cheap to use on this trip and possibly to use out in Ozona thru this season, then will sell for similar cheap to re-coup funds. Nothing fancy but should beat the heck out of a tent plus set up ... just put new shoes on the trailer, checked/packed wheel bearings, got the cab-over strapped down and big tool box cleaned out for storage.
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/23/15 02:13 PM
Don't forget the necessities.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/23/15 03:47 PM
I am leaving behind a 35' fifth wheel that is pretty darn comfortable.
Tha would probably be a bugger getting up where Sneaky camps, but IDK 100%
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/23/15 03:54 PM
PMK, that will sure lower the fuel bill, ought to be plenty comfortable too. I had friends up where I hunted that let me use their pump house when ever I wanted, it was a finished out 10x12 "shack" that I had to clean out every time, darn mice would get in a raise cain, stayed there many a night over the years, tent. It all works as long as you are comfortable at the end of a long day.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/23/15 04:12 PM
I have slept hundreds, if not thousands, of nights in a tent, but the older I get, the more I like a bit more comfort. The little cab-over should be fine for the two of us and is pretty bare bones basic. I just wish it had a
... LOL
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/23/15 04:18 PM
Yes sir, I remember the day's when a tree to lean against was just fine, then the hole in a small piece of plywood, then the metal chair with a toilet seat screwed on, but when you get up and it is 12 degrees outside.............
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/23/15 05:21 PM
Where around Ozona do you hunt?
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/23/15 05:29 PM
Where around Ozona do you hunt?
~35-40 miles SW west of Pandale road ... Scott Canyon area
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/23/15 06:24 PM
Am I the only one in a tent?
Posted By: JSims
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/23/15 08:12 PM
I MIGHT be in a tent. Im going to try to find the time to build a platform in the bed of my truck but only time will tell.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/23/15 08:23 PM
If you wanted simple, just use 3 2x6s, cut to length, and throw a sheet and a half of plywood on top. Or you could get more technical like the one I did last night that you saw.
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/23/15 08:49 PM
I MIGHT be in a tent. Im going to try to find the time to build a platform in the bed of my truck but only time will tell.
here's an option if you really want to work up a sweat building something.
http://www.amazon.com/Mountain-Trails-Ba...mp;keywords=cot
Posted By: JSims
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/23/15 09:12 PM
I exceed the weight capacity by a few pounds. HAHAHAH
Posted By: JSims
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/23/15 09:13 PM
If you wanted simple, just use 3 2x6s, cut to length, and throw a sheet and a half of plywood on top. Or you could get more technical like the one I did last night that you saw.
I'm probably going to build something very similar. Thanks for the idea.
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/23/15 09:14 PM
I exceed the weight capacity by a few pounds. HAHAHAH
Reinforce it with duct tape then.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/23/15 09:15 PM
If you wanted simple, just use 3 2x6s, cut to length, and throw a sheet and a half of plywood on top. Or you could get more technical like the one I did last night that you saw.
I'm probably going to build something very similar. Thanks for the idea.
Yes sir. Hope it goes well.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/23/15 09:37 PM
I slept and hunted out of the bed of my truck once, (once),, in my late 20's iirc . I bought a tent the following season, an 18' diameter, general purpose military surplus tent, big MOFO, but I could put it up by myself back then. Some room is very welcome if the weather is crappy, nothing worse than being stuck in a cab when it is snowing..
Wish I still had that tent, gave it to one of the young hands we had, I'd sure let you fellas borrow it if I had it, bunch of room and a 30 minute put up time for 2 guys.
I may have a small tent if I can find it, I had one that was given to me, but never used it, sure welcome to it if I still have it.
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/23/15 09:39 PM
My first trip was in a canvas tent and we got hit with snow. Woke up one morning and the tent was caved and only about 6" from my face. No one told me not to touch the tent, so I had a big puddle in my sleeping bag and mat when I got back that night.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/23/15 09:40 PM
Are you sure that was from touching the tent?
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/23/15 09:42 PM
Are you sure that was from touching the tent?
RM, you set your self up for that one LOL!!
Never had a good canvas tent give, but much depends on the fella putting it up......rifleman......
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/23/15 09:48 PM
I'm not 100% positive, but I saw a steady drip going into it, so it was an educated guess.
I didn't put the tent up, I got firewood and was too busy unloading everything and getting snow chains on all the vehicles with the forecast of a cpl feet of snow....you know, all the hard stuff while the older guys basically took a break.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/23/15 09:54 PM
I'm not 100% positive, but I saw a steady drip going into it, so it was an educated guess.
I didn't put the tent up, I got firewood and was too busy unloading everything and getting snow chains on all the vehicles with the forecast of a cpl feet of snow....you know, all the hard stuff while the older guys basically took a break.
Oh, the old guys used the "young guy" for labor
What else are y'all good for in camp?
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/23/15 09:56 PM
That's why I still have the nickname of pack mule, technology guru, photographer and PR representative.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/23/15 10:02 PM
Hey, at least they where cool and gave you a title
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/23/15 10:13 PM
I'm not 100% positive, but I saw a steady drip going into it, so it was an educated guess.
I didn't put the tent up, I got firewood and was too busy unloading everything and getting snow chains on all the vehicles with the forecast of a cpl feet of snow....you know, all the hard stuff while the older guys basically took a break.
Oh, the old guys used the "young guy" for labor
What else are y'all good for in camp?
In this one case, I hope I've crossed that line from young to old.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/23/15 10:17 PM
I'm not 100% positive, but I saw a steady drip going into it, so it was an educated guess.
I didn't put the tent up, I got firewood and was too busy unloading everything and getting snow chains on all the vehicles with the forecast of a cpl feet of snow....you know, all the hard stuff while the older guys basically took a break.
Oh, the old guys used the "young guy" for labor
What else are y'all good for in camp?
In this one case, I hope I've crossed that line from young to old.
Well, if your the unofficial
guide information officer, then I'd say that qualifies.....
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/23/15 10:33 PM
years ago (1960s), my dad bought several of old canvas army surplus tents off base at Fort Hood that we used as our deer camp. 2 were tee-pee type with a very long wooden center pole with the base about 20 or so feet in diameter. We put 3x bunk army cots with a pot belly stove in roughly the middle away from the center pole that kept the temperature bearable even when outside was down in the teens/low twenties. dug a shallow trench around the outside and piled the dirt from the trench on the bottom of the tent to seal. worked very well. with two of those types set up would sleep 12 guys (6 in each tent) ... then he also got a big straight wall mess tent that was 12-14 x 20-24 feet that we set up between the two tee-pees that was our cooking/eating/card playing tent that had a couple of tables, a butane cook stove and chairs... seems like there were a couple more bunk cots in there too. We would set up in mid-late Oct. and leave up until season was over. I think dad gave away the tee-pee ones when we finally upgraded to a gutted & converted 72 passenger school bus as our camphouse. The mess tent we kept and used a few times while on river fishing or camping trips. moths/mice finally took their toll on it, so we cut it up into usable size tarps.
but ... any of these were a minimum of an hour with 4 grown men to get set up with lots of stake driving and tension ropes to stabilize (and cussing). I think a couple of the 10x10 pop-up awnings with a few tarps wrapped around it for wind break will be much easier and faster to set up to give similar functionality with a lot less space required to haul them.
the moral to this is today's conveniences are nice, very nice! but I still have very fond memories of those much less convenient days gone by.
just like staying in a hotel for a hunting trip ... just takes something away from the overall "experience"
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/23/15 10:49 PM
PMK, those tents sound exactly like the one I had, but it wasn't as big a pain to put up for us, took my wife and I, about 45 minutes. Those are the octagon GP (general purpose) tents and are worth every penny for sure. Mine was a 1950's models iirc and it was as solid as could be, just a heavy sucker. Great Colorado tent, hardly any different that a similar sq ft. outfitters tent for less than half the cost.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/23/15 11:04 PM
yep, maybe it took so long as all the guys other than my dad might have had a bit (cough cough) of spirits prior to trying to get it set up. I was just a little f@rt back in those days. or maybe it just seemed that long to a little kid wanting to head to the woods to see what might be roaming around the pasture. They did work great but they weighed a ton (okay, a lot).
He (dad) bought all sorts of stuff off the surplus store on base ... tents, jeeps, trailers, lots of furniture for next to nothing. He bought 2 running willy's jeeps (WW2/Korean) one day for $50 ($25 each) and by the time we got to his warehouse an hour away, several guys were following him wanting to buy ... he sold for $500 each, unloaded and we headed back to Fort Hood to pick up 2 more. I think he ended up buying at least 8 over about a 2 week timeframe and sold all but 2. He gave one to a rancher buddy (he still had it the last time I was out at his place 7-8 years ago) and he kept one for the deer lease but finally sold it to the rancher if we could use it during season.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/23/15 11:10 PM
Bet you're right PMK, I remember one trip I had a army Colonel, one marine and 7 LEO's out in the woods of Colorado, with no one looking, I bet it took us 6 hrs and over a case of Texas % beer to put up my tent that year
( I had coffee with amarula
)
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/24/15 08:38 PM
Any recommendations for a hand held gps for the trip?
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/24/15 09:17 PM
Depends on the budget. A Garmin etrex will do just fine to keep you from getting lost. I have a Garmin Oregon with an onXmaps Colorado chip. It does pretty much everything, but it's not cheap. It was well worth the money, though, if you want to tell private from public, have more detailed maps, weather, take pictures, etc.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/24/15 09:18 PM
Sneaky, I thought somewhere back in the thread(s), someone said they made an "app" for a smart phone?
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/24/15 09:23 PM
Yes, there are GPS aps. I don't know anything about them. I don't like having my GPS tied up in a unit that requires charges instead of new batteries.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/24/15 09:33 PM
Yeah, battery deal makes sense.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/24/15 09:36 PM
Yes, there are GPS aps. I don't know anything about them. I don't like having my GPS tied up in a unit that requires charges instead of new batteries.
Also you have to down load the area. With out data you are just a dot on a blank screen. But you can down load a whole NF in seconds. But I agree I perfer batteries.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/24/15 09:46 PM
Yes, there are GPS aps. I don't know anything about them. I don't like having my GPS tied up in a unit that requires charges instead of new batteries.
Also you have to down load the area. With out data you are just a dot on a blank screen. But you can down load a whole NF in seconds. But I agree I perfer batteries.
BOBO, just don't get lost
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/24/15 09:50 PM
Some of us still think we need to put 5 miles a day on our feet and legs!!
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/24/15 09:56 PM
Some of us still think we need to put 5 miles a day on our feet and legs!!
OH, yeah, I forgot...Is that one way, or round trip? LOL
Hey, did you kill someth'n or what??? Still have a truck????
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/24/15 09:57 PM
Both. I'll post up in a minute or two. Just been catching up on work stuff.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/24/15 10:02 PM
Both. I'll post up in a minute or two. Just been catching up on work stuff.
WOOOT!!
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/25/15 12:19 AM
Both. I'll post up in a minute or two. Just been catching up on work stuff.
Good deal. I'll go look for it.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/25/15 05:12 AM
BOBO got it done in a big way fellers, hell of a bull!!
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/25/15 12:39 PM
Any recommendations for a hand held gps for the trip?
Yes cabelas has the garmin gpsmap64 st on sale. Great unit!! The onxmap software is very nice not needed but a welcome addition.
I have the Montana 600. My old truck didn't have GPS so it was dual purpose. But it kind of big to carry. Just add a carabiner to The gpsmap 64st and hook it to your pack
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/25/15 12:51 PM
Saw it mentioned somewhere else that academy had the Oregon 600T for $199.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/25/15 01:24 PM
Saw it mentioned somewhere else that academy had the Oregon 600T for $199.
Heck of a deal.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/25/15 01:38 PM
I am just going to borrow sneaky'a
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/25/15 02:18 PM
Just think, we'll be sitting in camp 3 weeks from now with a nice hot cup of coffee enjoying the Colorado air.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/25/15 02:25 PM
Saw it mentioned somewhere else that academy had the Oregon 600T for $199.
That's a deal think the gpsmap 64st was $299
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/25/15 03:12 PM
Just think, we'll be sitting in camp 3 weeks from now with a nice hot cup of coffee enjoying the Colorado air.
Str8 up coffee??? I figured you young fellas where more "cappuccino", or "Latte" drinkers
Sounds like PMK raised you purdy good.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/25/15 03:30 PM
I was once told by an old man, "I like my coffee like I like my women, strong and black." My wife doesn't think its too funny when I say it though.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/25/15 03:36 PM
I was once told by an old man, "I like my coffee like I like my women, strong and black." My wife doesn't think its too funny when I say it though.
Smart old man, I have said that many times as well, but never lived up to that statement
It's the thought that counts LOL.
And your wife, hmm, what if she said that to you
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/25/15 03:38 PM
Good thing she doesn't like coffee
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/25/15 04:08 PM
Aint that the truth!....What bout chocolate milk???????? Got to be carefull in this world LOL
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/25/15 04:10 PM
Now she'll drink chocolate milk all day long, but you wont hear her mutter those words. lol I hear ya....
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/25/15 04:20 PM
Just razzing you man! In a week or 2, the world wont even matter, just clean air and good camp life
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/25/15 04:24 PM
my pre-edited post would have explained a lot
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/25/15 04:56 PM
I like my coffee black and bitter, like my wifes heart!
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/25/15 04:59 PM
I like my coffee black and bitter, like my wifes heart!
You must have married my Ex? Should have called for references
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/25/15 11:10 PM
I am just going to borrow sneaky'a
I plan on keeping Sneaky in my sight!
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/25/15 11:29 PM
I was going to put a bell on him....
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/25/15 11:34 PM
I am just going to borrow sneaky'a
I plan on keeping Sneaky in my sight!
Better wear good sneakers
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/25/15 11:52 PM
I am just going to borrow sneaky'a
I plan on keeping Sneaky in my sight!
Better wear good sneakers
I got one word for you Dennis, Binoculars!
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/25/15 11:57 PM
I am just going to borrow sneaky'a
I plan on keeping Sneaky in my sight!
Better wear good sneakers
I got one word for you Dennis, Binoculars!
He can cover some ground, better take a spotting scope....
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/26/15 12:43 AM
I ain't that hard to keep up with. I just don't know when to stop.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/26/15 12:48 AM
I ain't that hard to keep up with. I just don't know when to stop.
Well, do like Forest did, when you get to a big azz body of water, turn around and go the other way
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/26/15 03:37 AM
Okay.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/26/15 11:26 AM
I ain't that hard to keep up with. I just don't know when to stop.
Is this anything like the young bull-old bull story?
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/26/15 01:56 PM
I ain't that hard to keep up with. I just don't know when to stop.
Is this anything like the young bull-old bull story?
Joe, he is young with strong legs, much different than us using a walker LOL
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/26/15 03:29 PM
I ain't that hard to keep up with. I just don't know when to stop.
Is this anything like the young bull-old bull story?
Yes.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/26/15 08:39 PM
I ain't that hard to keep up with. I just don't know when to stop.
Is this anything like the young bull-old bull story?
Yes.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/26/15 09:26 PM
Wondering if anyone has an opinion for a small thermos to carry?
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/26/15 10:17 PM
Wondering if anyone has an opinion for a small thermos to carry?
More weight. But it's hard to beat thermos brand
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/27/15 12:15 PM
I second that with Bobo, I have several of the big Thermos brand. I was looking at getting a percolator for coffee (the ex kept my old one out of spite).
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/27/15 06:02 PM
So over the next two weeks the high for Dolores is forecasted to go from 85-65...
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/27/15 06:32 PM
So over the next two weeks the high for Dolores is forecasted to go from 85-65...
What where the lows?
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/27/15 06:46 PM
Low 40s
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/27/15 06:49 PM
That is pretty warm
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/27/15 06:52 PM
Yes it is. About like last year.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/27/15 06:54 PM
Yes it is. About like last year.
Could actually be a good thing for you fellas, what elevation are y'all?
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/27/15 06:55 PM
Definitely warm for my area, but will try to manage what I have to deal with. I Already assume they will have some long travel routes then.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/27/15 07:30 PM
So over the next two weeks the high for Dolores is forecasted to go from 85-65...
Dang! I best bring my shorts!
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/27/15 07:40 PM
Just found out my boots won't fit with sock liner and cushioned warm sock
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/27/15 07:44 PM
Just found out my boots won't fit with sock liner and cushioned warm sock
Sounds like sandals may work on this trip! I will take thermals, but probably wont need them...
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/27/15 07:49 PM
I am debating holding off new boots. If it does hod through at 30s-50s don't think I will need super warm gear
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/27/15 07:58 PM
I am debating holding off new boots. If it does hod through at 30s-50s don't think I will need super warm gear
Take some extra warm stuff "just in case", Sounds like you can get by with a pair or two of socks, but I have seen pop up storms that would make you think you're in the arctic.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/27/15 08:04 PM
My concern is my really warm socks are uncomfortable in the boots. Very tight. I may just get a less cushioned sock which should create some room
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/27/15 08:05 PM
I am debating holding off new boots. If it does hod through at 30s-50s don't think I will need super warm gear
Take some extra warm stuff "just in case", Sounds like you can get by with a pair or two of socks, but I have seen pop up storms that would make you think you're in the arctic.
I think I am prepared for bout anything..
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/27/15 08:39 PM
Yes it is. About like last year.
Could actually be a good thing for you fellas, what elevation are y'all?
9,000-10,000
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/27/15 10:16 PM
Yes it is. About like last year.
Could actually be a good thing for you fellas, what elevation are y'all?
9,000-10,000
OH yeah, should be just right, The Doloras temps will be warmer than where y'all are, I'd almost bet you get nights in the 20's-30's
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/27/15 10:43 PM
Dolores sits at 6,936 ft (thanks wiki) Should be cool nights and beautiful days up at the elevation you fellas will be at, as far as camping, looks to be a great time. Should be more than average elk up high I would guess, which is also good. At least they will stream through rather than a river and gone.
You fellas should do pretty good. My highest hunt that I have figured so far, will be around 8200' iirc down to around 5-6k, but these are areas I have learned will hold elk when they have been pressured by bow and ML hunters, even better if it's cold.
There should have been good pressure put on them North and East of where ya'll are hunting,,,I'd make sure my knifes are charp!
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/27/15 10:44 PM
Sneaky, I'd bet you see more game this year, if remember, it was much cooler last year for you fellas??
Posted By: A.B.
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/28/15 12:37 AM
When are y'all heading out? Ready to see some dead animals.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/28/15 12:59 AM
It was quite warm last year. Only got below freezing at night a couple times.
I think we're heading out the 15th, A. B. The plan is to be there the morning of the 16th to stake out a campsite. Opening morning will be the 17th. Can't wait.
Did Bobo ever post about his hunt? I haven't seen a dang thing.
Posted By: A.B.
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/28/15 01:02 AM
Good luck brother
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/28/15 01:06 AM
It was quite warm last year. Only got below freezing at night a couple times.
I think we're heading out the 15th, A. B. The plan is to be there the morning of the 16th to stake out a campsite. Opening morning will be the 17th. Can't wait.
Did Bobo ever post about his hunt? I haven't seen a dang thing.
I think it's in e picture area
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/28/15 01:30 AM
It was quite warm last year. Only got below freezing at night a couple times.
I think we're heading out the 15th, A. B. The plan is to be there the morning of the 16th to stake out a campsite. Opening morning will be the 17th. Can't wait.
Did Bobo ever post about his hunt? I haven't seen a dang thing.
I think it's in e picture area
Yep, in Photos' section Sneaky it is the "ELK" thread.
http://texashuntingforum.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/5945008/1
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/28/15 02:36 AM
Thanks.
Posted By: JSims
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/28/15 12:24 PM
From my personal experience, the weather forecast is a little more accurate when you look at Rico's location. The latest date on weather.com is the 7th and it shows highs in the low 50's and lows in the lower 40's. Im getting super pumped about the trip and cant wait!!!!
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/28/15 12:34 PM
It's going to be chilly.
I was 8-10k and I had frost on the ground in NM one morning,,, 4 hours south of yall. One bluebird morning is all it takes. I actually used a snythic hoodie a bunch.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/28/15 01:22 PM
might be shorts and tennis shoes hunting weather ...
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/28/15 02:49 PM
Sitting in the sun, or shade, can make a 10-20 degree difference too (felt on the skin), not even factoring a breeze.
The temps that matter are the ones where the elk summer, even though many summer right where y'all will be. Should have good movement. Sure going to be great campfire/camping weather
I wouldn't be shocked it you fellas get a few mornings in the upper teens either over a 10 day hunt.
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/28/15 02:50 PM
Just ordered a few more items on my list, think I have everything! 9 more days till I leave work, and 17 till I leave for CO! Getting a bit anxious.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/28/15 02:56 PM
Ordered my tag last night. Got a package coming in tomorrow. Have one or two last minute things to order.
Leave in about 2.5 weeks...
Need to figure out when I am cooking food
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/28/15 03:05 PM
about the only thing I have left to do is to check propane connections, stove and heaters in cab-over. and of course pack clothing once we get a bit closer to the date to determine what I might need. All hunting stuff pretty much laid out ready to go other than clothes.
oh yeah, I need to cook too ...
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/28/15 03:13 PM
Small first aid kit can come in handy fellas.
I'm married to a nurse and with my nerve and bone problems, she packs me with enough crap to have a triage station
But, I have over the years seen bandages, band-aides vet wrap ect tra and stuff for diabetics come in real handy.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/28/15 03:15 PM
We always just figure out who wants to cook, whenever, but if y'all want to plan that out ahead of time, then we can.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/28/15 03:17 PM
I keep a decent first aid kit in my pack at all times. Ibuprofen always comes in handy. I've had to use the iodine and super glue, as well. I can't seem to handle a knife or broad head without splitting my own skin.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/28/15 03:24 PM
I keep a decent first aid kit in my pack at all times. Ibuprofen always comes in handy. I've had to use the iodine and super glue, as well. I can't seem to handle a knife or broad head without splitting my own skin.
Great point Sneaky, Ibuprofen is a great muscle relaxer in the field and cheap. Y'all may want to consider some regular Aspirin as well, it does make blood flow more, so not a good choice for cuts, but if you think someone is having a heart attack, could save their life.
Have used a buddies BC powder I think it was called, for a real bad headache and that stuff did real well too.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/28/15 03:29 PM
Wrap a couple feet of duck tape or gorilla tape around a lighter and put it in your first aid. Works great for blisters, or hotspots. Also deep cuts extra
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/28/15 03:53 PM
I think a first aid kit is about the only thing left on my 'to buy' list. For the rest of it, I just need to lay it all out and pack it.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/28/15 04:24 PM
I have 2-3 first aid kits coming. One small for the pack. And one bigger for camp. Make sure to stock up on other over the counter stuff you might need, allergy, anti itch, etc
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/28/15 04:27 PM
I need a good sling... Need to get that ordered this week
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/28/15 04:27 PM
Absolutely don't forget the "bull in-heat" lure fellas!
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/28/15 05:28 PM
I am bringing a halter broke cow for that, Western.
I like to have aspirin and Benadryl for those kind of emergencies. I also bring a few Zyrtec for my own allergies. I also carry some kind of tape. Usually black tape and athletic tape.
Cleric, I may have mentioned it, but I'm big on Vero Velini slings. There may be better, but I haven't seen any. The neoprene sticks to your shoulder, acts as a shock absorber, they're well made, and reasonably priced.
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/28/15 05:33 PM
My pack does not have the little shelf at the bottom to help carry meat out, I am sure I can make one easy enough, but any one know where I could get one if I run out of time? I am still on the boat at work and time is my most precious commodity right now.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/28/15 05:36 PM
I don't know anything about this pack. Looks like a good deal.
If you bone out the meat you can just put it in your pack.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/28/15 06:03 PM
Which pack do you have?
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/28/15 06:28 PM
My pack does not have the little shelf at the bottom to help carry meat out, I am sure I can make one easy enough, but any one know where I could get one if I run out of time? I am still on the boat at work and time is my most precious commodity right now.
You can order something from rei easily
Or you can look for a mil surplus frame and attach it to the frame
Or spend money and get a mystery ranch, Exo, Kifalu etc
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/28/15 06:54 PM
Sneaky, I am planning on cooking 3-4 meals for 8/9 people ahead of time, vacuum sealing and then freezing. I might get some dry ice for the trip up with all the frozen food in one ice chest to insure it remains frozen until needed. Pull out the next day's meal the evening before so it thaws some, then toss in your turkey fryer cooker with boiling water to re-heat. I'll need to read back thru the other private threads to make sure I am not duplicating what someone else is bringing though. That reminds me of something else I need to get sorted out, my camp cook box (I know I will need to replenish spices).
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/28/15 07:25 PM
You guys are going to eat good!!
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/28/15 07:28 PM
You guys are going to eat good!!
Right!!!!
If I'm truck camping it's an ice chest with egg beaters, steak, sausage, potatoes, cheese and few bell peppers. Oh and tortillas and whataburger honey butter.
I just keep adding to left overs
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/28/15 07:39 PM
You guys are going to eat good!!
Right!!!!
If I'm truck camping it's an ice chest with egg beaters, steak, sausage, potatoes, cheese and few bell peppers. Oh and tortillas and whataburger honey butter.
I just keep adding to left overs
Yum, breakfast burritos!! Have some "type" of them every year, fast, easy energy. Usually don't cook after opening am, It is soup, sandwiches, or cereal
Good food almost always comes with a group, usually some one that likes to cook, or has time.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/28/15 07:40 PM
BTW, tried taking a few Breakfast burritos in my pack once, couldn't even recognize them after half a day, same with most soft foods, but goes down like finger food
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/28/15 07:47 PM
BTW, tried taking a few Breakfast burritos in my pack once, couldn't even recognize them after half a day, same with most soft foods, but goes down like finger food
Lol. I learned a new way last week. Apparently NM prides them self in a spill proof burrito. Seriously.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/28/15 08:06 PM
You guys are going to eat good!!
Right!!!!
If I'm truck camping it's an ice chest with egg beaters, steak, sausage, potatoes, cheese and few bell peppers. Oh and tortillas and whataburger honey butter.
I just keep adding to left overs
Yum, breakfast burritos!! Have some "type" of them every year, fast, easy energy. Usually don't cook after opening am, It is soup, sandwiches, or cereal
Good food almost always comes with a group, usually some one that likes to cook, or has time.
I'll make the time and I do love to cook ... I'll likely fire up my smoker the weekend before and load it up with a wide variety of meat stuff ... wife picked up a large bag of taters yesterday that I will get about a dozen or so baked, some for meals and some will make some good breakfast treats. Probably brown 4-5 lbs of ground breakfast sausage, vacuum seal, freeze. Makes it a lot easier to whip up some breakfast taco fixings to quickly assemble before heading out of camp in the morning.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/28/15 10:31 PM
That is the way to do it PMK, as much prep as you can beforehand. I've camped with several groups and those that did it like that, it always seemed to go smooth AND QUICK. Yopu must have been down this road before
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/28/15 10:33 PM
BTW, tried taking a few Breakfast burritos in my pack once, couldn't even recognize them after half a day, same with most soft foods, but goes down like finger food
Lol. I learned a new way last week. Apparently NM prides them self in a spill proof burrito. Seriously.
Crush proof is what I need, I carry a small light pack.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/28/15 10:56 PM
That is the way to do it PMK, as much prep as you can beforehand. I've camped with several groups and those that did it like that, it always seemed to go smooth AND QUICK. Yopu must have been down this road before
yep, a few times for various venues but usually for the smaller groups I would merely cook on-site each day on a coleman stove or camp fire.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/28/15 11:00 PM
I don't know what it is, but some food taste better up there, pre-packaged deli type meat sandwiches I can't eat here, but they are good up there.
Best fresh fish I have ever cooked has been over a camp fire.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/29/15 06:55 PM
1 week fellas and really feeling the pressure to get things done and work at the same time
Sooo looking forward to dropping a line for some trout Thursday and Friday with a few scouting trips thrown in.
Got my secondary tank in, reinforced and the bottom cover back on, now need to get tires replaced/checked and camper inspected so I can get tags, hard to do when you get to bed at 4-5 am
20 years ago, working all night then packing and making the 16 hr drive, was "all in a days work" getting tougher working nights as I get older...Since I got the camper, I find it easier to pull over for a nap somewhere..
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/29/15 06:57 PM
I'm sure you'll manage, somehow, to chase some elk.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/29/15 07:02 PM
1 week fellas and really feeling the pressure to get things done and work at the same time
Sooo looking forward to dropping a line for some trout Thursday and Friday with a few scouting trips thrown in.
Got my secondary tank in, reinforced and the bottom cover back on, now need to get tires replaced/checked and camper inspected so I can get tags, hard to do when you get to bed at 4-5 am
20 years ago, working all night then packing and making the 16 hr drive, was "all in a days work" getting tougher working nights as I get older...Since I got the camper, I find it easier to pull over for a nap somewhere..
If you don't want that tag I know a guy
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/29/15 07:32 PM
1 week fellas and really feeling the pressure to get things done and work at the same time
Sooo looking forward to dropping a line for some trout Thursday and Friday with a few scouting trips thrown in.
Got my secondary tank in, reinforced and the bottom cover back on, now need to get tires replaced/checked and camper inspected so I can get tags, hard to do when you get to bed at 4-5 am
20 years ago, working all night then packing and making the 16 hr drive, was "all in a days work" getting tougher working nights as I get older...Since I got the camper, I find it easier to pull over for a nap somewhere..
If you don't want that tag I know a guy
I'll keep it just because I can fish with it LOL, just have to kill a stupid elk just to fish SMDH
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/29/15 07:33 PM
I'm sure you'll manage, somehow, to chase some elk.
I gave up "chasing " them the second time I elk hunted, just too darn fast! Would like to be in a spot where I get ran over though, that gets your heart pumping!!
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/29/15 07:37 PM
Jon BOBO, you're more than welcome to come throw a line man, no hiking required, so great for an office junky
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/29/15 08:01 PM
Jon BOBO, you're more than welcome to come throw a line man, no hiking required, so great for an office junky
That's code for... Hayy while you're resting come pack out my elk
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/29/15 08:12 PM
Jon BOBO, you're more than welcome to come throw a line man, no hiking required, so great for an office junky
That's code for... Hayy while you're resting come pack out my elk
Caught me, You must have been a "code talker" too LOL. Just sad a fishing license comes with a bull tag SMH.
You want to fish, I can deal with the bull man, just have to get him near the trail
BTW, you decide if you're going to use that rifle tag?
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/29/15 08:16 PM
Work just got real busy. Might be able to break free 3rd season.
Oh I been abused as a mule for a long time growing up! Pops and grand papa don't play. Worst was grand fathers last bull or the three cows in one day old folks hunt
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/29/15 08:19 PM
Well, that ought to make your hunt even better then
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/29/15 08:55 PM
I don't mind packing out. Cause that means I got something
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/29/15 11:14 PM
I don't mind packing out. Cause that means I got something
Or that I did.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/29/15 11:30 PM
Posted By: Sq2 hunter
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/30/15 01:24 AM
Idk about you guys but I'm pretty stoked. Been doing bleachers with 150 pounds on the framepack and just shot my rifle out to 1500 yards so this should be a good season.. Just hope the weather and elk cooperate. .
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/30/15 01:30 AM
1500?
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/30/15 01:57 AM
That boy don't mess around.
Posted By: Sq2 hunter
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/30/15 03:36 AM
Yeah I was hoping to be at 2000 yards but I don't think it'll have the umph for elk and the mirage here lately has been so bad it's hard to see the target. Lol
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/30/15 03:43 AM
What caliber 338?
Posted By: Sq2 hunter
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/30/15 04:01 AM
300 WM 200 gr bullets
Posted By: 68A
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/30/15 04:47 AM
Not sure who is going or when, but good luck to all. If it pans out and yall do it again next year maybe I'll try to get in on it, if I can get Sq2 to train me.
Posted By: mow
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/30/15 06:28 PM
Sneaky...is there anything you would do differet than last year that would help the new guys..apologize if you have already discussed..mow=Garry
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/30/15 07:19 PM
Yeah I was hoping to be at 2000 yards but I don't think it'll have the umph for elk and the mirage here lately has been so bad it's hard to see the target. Lol
This bull was at 764 LOS... It took me 3.5 hours to get to that spot from where I took the pic. Just something to consider
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/30/15 07:23 PM
Heck of a bull and sneak BOBO
I like that area, almost looks familiar
Cant recall many times I couldn't close the gap to make a shot, even though some I could have made as it was.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/30/15 09:20 PM
Been gone for three days. Hoping tomorrow and Friday to be mostly packed up!
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/30/15 09:33 PM
Heck of a bull and sneak BOBO
I like that area, almost looks familiar
Cant recall many times I couldn't close the gap to make a shot, even though some I could have made as it was.
Couldn't kill him but he had a little buddy that will eat well.
We just forget 700 yards at dusk can be a lonnnnnng walk in the mountains.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/30/15 09:47 PM
Sure can, especially if your trying to be incognito.
Posted By: Sq2 hunter
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/30/15 10:05 PM
Oh it's totally worth the pack out!!
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 09/30/15 11:43 PM
Its worth it for sure, but at that yardage, it is easy to loose an elk. Hard enough seeing them moving, let alone laying under some oak shimmery. In the open and you can make 1 or 2 good shots, easy to find with a spotter usually. Good thing is y'all will have plenty of help.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/01/15 12:33 AM
Sneaky...is there anything you would do differet than last year that would help the new guys..apologize if you have already discussed..mow=Garry
Yeah. There's a couple canyons I would avoid.
If anyone burns breakfast, they'll find out which ones.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/01/15 01:00 AM
Oh it's totally worth the pack out!!
It's not the pack out it remembering where he was standing lol!!!
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/01/15 07:34 AM
Oh it's totally worth the pack out!!
It's not the pack out it remembering where he was standing lol!!!
WORD!
Posted By: Sq2 hunter
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/01/15 01:07 PM
I take pics through a spotting scope where they fall so it makes it fairly easy to find them.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/01/15 05:07 PM
Oh it's totally worth the pack out!!
It's not the pack out it remembering where he was standing lol!!!
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/03/15 02:27 AM
I take pics through a spotting scope where they fall so it makes it fairly easy to find them.
it will look lots different so take some great references. If you can before you shoot...phone scope it with a picture like above.
The more time you spend behind that glass more successful you will be. Find the thick stuff and glass inch by inch slowly.
I got a good feeling you are going to be taking some nice trophy pics
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/03/15 04:43 PM
getting awful quiet on here, I am guessing everyone is manically packing and repacking their gear!
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/03/15 07:11 PM
Loading some ammo now. Need to finish packing this week
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/03/15 07:21 PM
Got new shoes on the tent yesterday, good thing too fellas. 2 I knew where bad, but they found 3 that had separated!! Tire codes said they where 6 years old so, probably the best thing anyway.
Getting packed to leave probably Tues, could accidentally happen Monday night.
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/03/15 07:52 PM
Dang, I haven't even started yet! Was gathering things up, but had to go offshore for work. Won't be home until weds or thurs so will be packing next weekend I guess.
Posted By: Sq2 hunter
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/03/15 11:08 PM
I've packed a couple times lol I keep trying to get my pack lighter lol
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/04/15 12:40 AM
I've packed a couple times lol I keep trying to get my pack lighter lol
Good luck. I know the confliction.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/04/15 12:45 AM
getting awful quiet on here, I am guessing everyone is manically packing and repacking their gear!
Man, they've got me working in the middle of nowhere. It's all I can do to get just a shred of service in the evening, after my shift, when I go for my run.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/04/15 12:51 AM
Man, they've got me working in the middle of nowhere. It's all I can do to get just a shred of service in the evening, after my shift, when I go for my run.
It is near time! Hope y'all are as anxious as I am..
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/04/15 12:57 AM
Absolutely. Time is really dragging by. I'm ready to go. I'm just working as much as they will let me so I at least have the gas money to get there. I'll figure out a way back, after the fact.
I have a feeling I'll be off for a few days before the hunt. It's slow enough that they're limiting our time on jobs to spread the work around, and I'm 4 days into a 2 week stretch. So, that should give me plenty of flexibility on leaving and being able to convoy with the guys passing through.
Posted By: Sq2 hunter
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/04/15 12:57 AM
Thanks it's gonna be a tough hunt but a blast!!! Any of yall packing into wilderness?
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/04/15 12:59 AM
Thanks it's gonna be a tough hunt but a blast!!! Any of yall packing into wilderness?
No, this is the beginner's course. The wilderness hunts are a more advanced class.
Posted By: Sq2 hunter
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/04/15 01:09 AM
Haha yeah. Both Def have there pros and cons..
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/04/15 06:16 PM
My truck is near packed. Should finish that up tomorrow. In exactly one week I will head out. It is a 24 hr drive and I will take my time. Packing my back pack and checking all the necessities along the way. If I don't get lost, I'll see you fellas in Colorado! Safe travels for all!
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/04/15 06:46 PM
Be safe. Stop when you're tired. Good hunting.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/04/15 11:29 PM
One week, Chief? How long are you expecting to drive?
Posted By: Sq2 hunter
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/05/15 12:15 AM
Im jealous! Are gonna do some scouting amd trout fishing?
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/05/15 12:53 AM
I will take it slow and easy. Prolly get to Dolores on Wednesday?
Posted By: Sq2 hunter
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/05/15 02:49 AM
Third time checking my gear. Still have to get a few more things but it's getting close.. What's y'all's pack look like?
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/05/15 03:02 AM
I'm just trying to decide if I want a bear tag...Decisions...
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/05/15 01:16 PM
Absolutely. Time is really dragging by. I'm ready to go. I'm just working as much as they will let me so I at least have the gas money to get there. I'll figure out a way back, after the fact.
I have a feeling I'll be off for a few days before the hunt. It's slow enough that they're limiting our time on jobs to spread the work around, and I'm 4 days into a 2 week stretch. So, that should give me plenty of flexibility on leaving and being able to convoy with the guys passing through.
Sneaky, We (Jsims, my dad, and I) are planning to stay in San Angelo on Wednesday night and get up Thursday morning to head out from there. I'll check with them, but maybe you could meet up with us maybe in Sweetwater Thursday morning sometime for the convoy?
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/05/15 02:39 PM
All y'all be careful and have a safe and fun trip!!!
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/05/15 03:03 PM
I'm just trying to decide if I want a bear tag...Decisions...
Dennis, is that bear license over the counter also? Cost? I got nervous about the hunter's safety cert. after my son questioned it. Can't remember what you guys said since I KNEW I was way too old. CO grandfathers in up to 1949! Ohio is much later. Anyway I called ODNR and a very nice lady found my hunters safety certificate I got with son Mark in 1981. Mark was 9! She will send it out to me soon!
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/05/15 03:04 PM
I'm just trying to decide if I want a bear tag...Decisions...
Dennis, is that bear license over the counter also? Cost? I got nervous about the hunter's safety cert. after my son questioned it. Can't remember what you guys said since I KNEW I was way too old. CO grandfathers in up to 1949! Ohio is much later. Anyway I called ODNR and a very nice lady found my hunters safety certificate I got with son Mark in 1981. Mark was 9! She will send it out to me soon!
Ya they don't play up there!!!
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/05/15 03:18 PM
I'm just trying to decide if I want a bear tag...Decisions...
Dennis, is that bear license over the counter also? Cost? I got nervous about the hunter's safety cert. after my son questioned it. Can't remember what you guys said since I KNEW I was way too old. CO grandfathers in up to 1949! Ohio is much later. Anyway I called ODNR and a very nice lady found my hunters safety certificate I got with son Mark in 1981. Mark was 9! She will send it out to me soon!
Ya they don't play up there!!!
No they don't!! Joe, you should have asked if they could certify you (they will print it on all your tags from here on out) may have to go in person though, IDR.
The bear tag is OTC, it is the Bear tag with "caps". Just means they give a total sum of tags for each unit, but to qualify (which y'all do), you have to have 1st bought/have a big game license for the same unit. They are sold 1st come 1st serve until gone.
Totally different tag than the draw tags, with the caps tag, you can hunt all 3 of the big game seasons for bear, so if you didn't kill one during 1st, you could still hunt for bear the following seasons.
iirc, it is on page 59 of the hunting brochure. Also can read it online.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/05/15 03:21 PM
Sorry Joe, the cost is $351 this year, went up since the one I got 2 years ago.
I am really considering it primarily because of the temps right now. Bear will be packing on fat 24/7 getting ready for their winter "break", until their clock says it's time...
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/05/15 03:25 PM
Just looked, Unit 71 still has 278 tags left. You can call and buy over the phone (they will give you a number to give to the license agent to print the tag, like at walmart), you can buy directly from an agent, or get it through the mail.
http://cpwapps.state.co.us/Documents/otccap.pdf
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/05/15 03:26 PM
Joe, this page will give you the "details", also has the links throughout, to guide you through the info.
http://cpw.state.co.us/thingstodo/Pages/Leftover.aspx
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/05/15 05:20 PM
Absolutely. Time is really dragging by. I'm ready to go. I'm just working as much as they will let me so I at least have the gas money to get there. I'll figure out a way back, after the fact.
I have a feeling I'll be off for a few days before the hunt. It's slow enough that they're limiting our time on jobs to spread the work around, and I'm 4 days into a 2 week stretch. So, that should give me plenty of flexibility on leaving and being able to convoy with the guys passing through.
Sneaky, We (Jsims, my dad, and I) are planning to stay in San Angelo on Wednesday night and get up Thursday morning to head out from there. I'll check with them, but maybe you could meet up with us maybe in Sweetwater Thursday morning sometime for the convoy?
Sounds good.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/05/15 05:23 PM
Joe, all I know about the bear hunting up there is that we see a LOT of sign but never any bears.
Posted By: JSims
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/05/15 05:31 PM
That's really weird. We see them on a very regular basis at my dads house but he is about 2,000 ft lower in elevation.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/05/15 05:36 PM
Absolutely. Time is really dragging by. I'm ready to go. I'm just working as much as they will let me so I at least have the gas money to get there. I'll figure out a way back, after the fact.
I have a feeling I'll be off for a few days before the hunt. It's slow enough that they're limiting our time on jobs to spread the work around, and I'm 4 days into a 2 week stretch. So, that should give me plenty of flexibility on leaving and being able to convoy with the guys passing through.
Sneaky, We (Jsims, my dad, and I) are planning to stay in San Angelo on Wednesday night and get up Thursday morning to head out from there. I'll check with them, but maybe you could meet up with us maybe in Sweetwater Thursday morning sometime for the convoy?
Sounds good.
If y'all want to come up to dfw we can all leave around 2
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/05/15 05:37 PM
Just a bit of a detour
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/05/15 05:39 PM
Looks like the forecast for Dolores is going to be in the mid to high 60s for the highs and low 40s for the lows.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/05/15 06:21 PM
That's really weird. We see them on a very regular basis at my dads house but he is about 2,000 ft lower in elevation.
There's a bunch up there. I think the timing is just too close to hibernation on this hunt.
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/05/15 06:37 PM
Looks like my brother may have to back out, He is still trying but he had a mechanic quit and they fired the other two under him. So I may be heading up alone, or rendevous with the rest of you guys wagon training it up there. That is if I get of this boat! Lmbo, the guy that was supposed to replace me got sent to another job, so now my boss is scrambling. I told him if I miss this hunt I still have a gun and mean to put something on my wall, it will be elk or his hide!
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/05/15 06:39 PM
You tell that bossman
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/05/15 07:14 PM
Sorry Joe, the cost is $351 this year, went up since the one I got 2 years ago.
.
That is a bit steep for this on the "if come". Maybe next year! Now I have sealed my fate, I will regret not getting the tag.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/05/15 07:59 PM
Absolutely. Time is really dragging by. I'm ready to go. I'm just working as much as they will let me so I at least have the gas money to get there. I'll figure out a way back, after the fact.
I have a feeling I'll be off for a few days before the hunt. It's slow enough that they're limiting our time on jobs to spread the work around, and I'm 4 days into a 2 week stretch. So, that should give me plenty of flexibility on leaving and being able to convoy with the guys passing through.
Sneaky, We (Jsims, my dad, and I) are planning to stay in San Angelo on Wednesday night and get up Thursday morning to head out from there. I'll check with them, but maybe you could meet up with us maybe in Sweetwater Thursday morning sometime for the convoy?
Sounds good.
If y'all want to come up to dfw we can all leave around 2
Cleric they will probably go west and head up to post across to Santa Rosa would be my guess. you could meet them at the TA truck stop on I-40 and 84 in Santa Rosa, usually decent fuel prices and a pretty good restaurant. Also parking by the pumps if you want to catch some zzz's waiting.. Just throwing that out there.
Where we met when I came up from Erath Co.
Posted By: JSims
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/05/15 09:28 PM
Western is correct, this is the route that we will be taking. I usually fill up at this spot.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/05/15 11:10 PM
I got my trip tick today. I stay on I-70 clean over to Oakley, KS then 40 and hope I do not get lost!
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/06/15 09:26 AM
Well fellas, waited almost 12 months for this, heading out on the road in a few hours.
Wish you guys the best of luck on your trip
For those going for the 1st time, I hope you find it as enjoyable as I have for so many years, maybe it will become a yearly "tradition" for you, as it has been for me. Safe travels too fellas
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/06/15 11:08 AM
Well fellas, waited almost 12 months for this, heading out on the road in a few hours.
Dennis do you hunt alone on this trip? Good luck and be safe!
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/06/15 11:11 AM
Well fellas, waited almost 12 months for this, heading out on the road in a few hours.
Dennis do you hunt alone on this trip? Good luck and be safe!
Yes sir, do most of the time now.
Thanks Joe, you too bud, you have a good way to drive.
As soon as my meds get my back "ride ready" I will hit the road, figure an hr and I'll be good
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/06/15 12:36 PM
Be safe and good luck, Dennis. If you tag out early, head on over and help us pack our bulls out
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/06/15 12:47 PM
Be safe and good luck, Dennis. If you tag out early, head on over and help us pack our bulls out
What he said!
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/06/15 02:45 PM
I know you'll shoot something. I just hope it's a good one.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/06/15 04:50 PM
I am getting anxious...
Posted By: Sq2 hunter
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/07/15 01:18 AM
Wait are yall hunting the first season?
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/07/15 01:51 AM
Wait are yall hunting the first season?
Just western he drew a tag in a home turf unit for him.
Posted By: Sq2 hunter
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/07/15 02:42 AM
Lucky
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/07/15 04:47 PM
I am a bit road weary from a day trip out to Ozona last Tuesday (~700 miles), then to Albuquerque/Santa Fe and back last Thursday-Monday (2100 miles round trip) but I am getting excited about the elk hunt as it's been a number of years since I have been. Trailer is getting pretty close to ready, just need to flare the copper tubing to the rear heater and get a new fitting put on. It should be ready to roll. Have all my hunting stuff gathered up and still need to pack clothing. Unless there is a cold front that pushes thru, it might be shorts & t-shirt hunting weather...
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/07/15 05:08 PM
It was nearly that kind of weather last year. Just be prepared for it all lol.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/07/15 06:11 PM
You think he's kidding... I wouldn't be a bit surprised if he hunts half the time in shorts.
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/07/15 07:06 PM
Well no one who has ever seen me in shorts, wants to see it again! So I will have mercy on you all and keep pants on no matter the weather.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/07/15 07:22 PM
early reports show rain in the forecast boys
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/07/15 07:29 PM
It rains often up there, but it's typically short lived.
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/07/15 07:52 PM
Well it is official, my brother had to bail. So I will be traveling up alone, somewhere behind PMK and ZK
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/07/15 08:50 PM
That's too bad.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/08/15 10:32 AM
Well it is official, my brother had to bail. So I will be traveling up alone, somewhere behind PMK and ZK
My brother just told me he was envious of the trip. I told him to grab a gun and coat and jump in..... I'll be driving alone! About 85 hours til I pull out!
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/08/15 11:09 AM
We are down to a week. The temps are dropping and it's raining. I can feel it.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/08/15 11:20 AM
I am ready!
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/08/15 12:36 PM
what caliber is that Joe?
by this time next week, we will be on up the road heading to hunt
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/08/15 12:47 PM
Looking good.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/08/15 12:54 PM
what caliber is that Joe?
It is a 30-06 BLR
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/08/15 12:59 PM
what caliber is that Joe?
It is a 30-06 BLR
My dad killed two elk with the 308 version. Love those BRL
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/08/15 01:33 PM
what caliber is that Joe?
It is a 30-06 BLR
My dad killed two elk with the 308 version. Love those BRL
If I were a bit better off I'd have one of each caliber! Thanks BOBO!
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/08/15 03:08 PM
what caliber is that Joe?
It is a 30-06 BLR
My dad killed two elk with the 308 version. Love those BRL
What???? According to the Internet only magnums can kill elk
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/08/15 03:09 PM
The internet knows all, you know
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/08/15 03:25 PM
what caliber is that Joe?
It is a 30-06 BLR
My dad killed two elk with the 308 version. Love those BRL
What???? According to the Internet only magnums can kill elk
Lol. What several die in the front yard to a 243. Granny didn't play with her garden.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/08/15 03:30 PM
what caliber is that Joe?
It is a 30-06 BLR
My dad killed two elk with the 308 version. Love those BRL
If I were a bit better off I'd have one of each caliber! Thanks BOBO!
FYI bring extra mags!!! You should of seen the cussing I got in 1990
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/08/15 09:41 PM
FYI bring extra mags!!! You should of seen the cussing I got in 1990
Never got around to getting a extra!
Axis backstrap, spinach, and corn for supper/dinner with icecream for desert. That was the last of the axis. Will need to get some elk!
Posted By: Sq2 hunter
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/09/15 02:26 AM
I killed an 8×8 with a 22 magnum at 200 yards when I was a young buck. Just sucks I lost the pic
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/09/15 02:32 AM
I killed an 8×8 with a 22 magnum at 200 yards when I was a young buck. Just sucks I lost the pic
Thought that was a grizzly?
Posted By: Sq2 hunter
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/09/15 02:44 AM
I killed the grizzly at 500 yards with my old trusty 22 LR. But I had a good rest..
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/09/15 01:06 PM
I killed the grizzly at 500 yards with my old trusty 22 LR. But I had a good rest..
Sorry, this post is for off shoulder shots only!
Hard to fathom that in just 9 days we will be hunting!
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/10/15 12:02 PM
I'm leaving in about 29 hours!
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/10/15 12:14 PM
Dang. That's close.
I should get relief out here on Monday or Tuesday. Meet with a lawyer on Wednesday. Then take off Thursday with the rest of the convoy.
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/10/15 12:31 PM
Good hunting all. And Happy Birthday Sneaky!
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/10/15 12:52 PM
Thanks.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/10/15 08:37 PM
Reckon Western has killed his bull yet?
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/10/15 10:23 PM
Reckon Western has killed his bull yet?
I hope so. Happy birthday sir!
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/11/15 02:22 AM
Happy birthday Sneaky!
Hope you boys are gonna be hungry next week...
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/11/15 02:43 AM
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/11/15 03:20 AM
Yeah....that'll work. I'm hungry now.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/11/15 03:28 AM
Happy birthday Sneaky!
Most of the food is now vacuum sealed and in the freezer. Picked up 2 150 quart ice chests from a friend, rifles & 2 back up rifles dialed in down range. ZK & I got most stuff laid out ready to load.
Safe travels tomorrow Joe! See you in a few days.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/11/15 11:40 AM
Happy birthday Sneaky!
Most of the food is now vacuum sealed and in the freezer. Picked up 2 150 quart ice chests from a friend, rifles & 2 back up rifles dialed in down range. ZK & I got most stuff laid out ready to load.
Safe travels tomorrow Joe! See you in a few days.
Thank you sir! I will leave out after church... See you in Colorado!
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/11/15 01:03 PM
And the first wave prepares to invade the hippie state.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/11/15 01:10 PM
Safe travels Joe. See you in a few days. Dang I'm excited
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/11/15 06:09 PM
Is someone taking some decent scotch? I tried my best to teach you boys...
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/11/15 06:32 PM
Irish whiskey is as close as I'm going to get to that. You did try, and you did well. I'm just not sold on scotch, yet.
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/11/15 06:55 PM
Ahh crap. Well, I'll make an extra effort to make it next year and we'll just schedule some time for a formal scotch tasting one evening. Watch that Irish stuff. I know you know it'll sneak up on you (no pun intended).
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/11/15 07:05 PM
I'm the poster child for moderation.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/11/15 11:02 PM
doing hunting clothes packing this afternoon ... but feel I am forgetting something.
Better bring rain gear boys, looks like the first several days will be "damp".
Dolores CO long range weather forecast anyone have quick access to that list of "stuff" to bring handy?
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/11/15 11:07 PM
Happy birthday Sneaky!
Most of the food is now vacuum sealed and in the freezer. Picked up 2 150 quart ice chests from a friend, rifles & 2 back up rifles dialed in down range. ZK & I got most stuff laid out ready to load.
Safe travels tomorrow Joe! See you in a few days.
Thank you sir! I will leave out after church... See you in Colorado!
Joe, if you have any computer or smart phone access, keep us updated while on the road when you stop for the evenings.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/11/15 11:20 PM
Is someone taking some decent scotch? I tried my best to teach you boys...
If you only archery hunted.....
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/11/15 11:24 PM
doing hunting clothes packing this afternoon ... but feel I am forgetting something.
Better bring rain gear boys, looks like the first several days will be "damp".
Dolores CO long range weather forecast anyone have quick access to that list of "stuff" to bring handy?
pick up some leg gaiters!!!
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/11/15 11:32 PM
Good idea Bobo! I wonder if bass pro has those or if I'd have to go to a snow ski shop.
Think I'm done unless I think of something else the next few days.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/11/15 11:34 PM
Good idea Bobo! I wonder if bass pro has those or if I'd have to go to a snow ski shop.
Think I'm done unless I think of something else the next few days.
Cabela's does, not sure on bass pro.
REI does also.
Also
http://www.wholeearthprovision.com/mobile/index.php
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/11/15 11:50 PM
Elk Hunting List
Pack:
Binos and harness
Lens cloth
Water bladder
5 game bags
Knives
Sharpener
GPS
Maps
Compass
Pen
Zip ties
Parachute cord
Black tape
Flashlight
Headlamp
Batteries
Leatherman
Ammo
Painkillers
Benadryl
Camera
Food
Mole skin
Survival kit:
Waterproof matches
Lighter(2)
Space blanket(2)
Needle
Thread
Super glue(gel and liquid)
Iodine
Quick Clot
Athletic tape
Gauze
Bandages
Water purifier straw
Truck/Camp
Sleeping bag
Pillow
150 quart cooler
65 quart cooler
Ice
Food
Bottled water
Jugs of water
Cooking grate
Camp stove
Pans
Utensils
Paper plates
Trash bags
Spices
Cooking oil
454
Rifle
Ammo
Cleaning kit
Remoil
Batteries
TP
Paper towels
Wipes
Rags
Ax
Hatchet
Shovel
Camp chair
Clothes:
Boots(2-3 pair)
Pants
Shirts
Socks
Underwear
Thermals
Light jacket(waterproof)
Heavy jacket
Orange vest
Orange cap
Balaclava
Gaiters
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/12/15 01:08 AM
Sneaky, did you say you were bringing another table? I have one that's about 2x4' and dad was wondering if he needed to bring another fold out card table.
Also, is anyone planning to bring a gun cleaning kit? I've got one but if someone is planning to bring theirs I'll leave mine at home.
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/12/15 02:32 AM
Hey, Sneaky. Where you guys stay up there are you able to get a camper up to the location. Im working on my hunting plans for next year. And am debating on what state hunt elk in.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/12/15 02:59 AM
Sneaky, did you say you were bringing another table? I have one that's about 2x4' and dad was wondering if he needed to bring another fold out card table.
Also, is anyone planning to bring a gun cleaning kit? I've got one but if someone is planning to bring theirs I'll leave mine at home.
I'm not bringing a table. One would probably be plenty. We just need something to set food on.
I'll probably bring a rod and some patches. I always have some kind of lubricant in the truck. I'm not bringing a full blown kit, though.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/12/15 03:01 AM
Hey, Sneaky. Where you guys stay up there are you able to get a camper up to the location. Im working on my hunting plans for next year. And am debating on what state hunt elk in.
A small camper would be no problem. A large camper, like a fifth wheel, could get kind of scary. The roads are narrow and the drop offs steep. The roads are in good shape, though, as long as they're not covered in snow.
Posted By: cmorsch
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/12/15 03:19 AM
Thank you, that's good to know for my purposes of planning.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/12/15 01:12 PM
thanks for the list Sneaky! I don't have everything you listed packed, but think I have all the essentials (and then some). I started a small list on the kitchen counter of other stuff that has popped into my head but otherwise, I think I am down to just getting everything loaded in ZK's camper shell or into/onto the trailer with the pop-up cab-over camper Wednesday afternoon.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/12/15 01:24 PM
A lot of that stuff you won't need. That's just everything that I may need. It gives you an idea, at least.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/12/15 07:41 PM
during lunch time, I just went back thru all the CPWD guides and it raised a few questions.
Looks like OTC Bull only, not either sex??? (appears either sex rifle is only in eastern plains units)
is OTC license good in other units in same general area? example, buy license for unit 71, can it be used in 73, 74, 741??? (there is a note on page 32 about Unit 70 hunts split into two separate license but doesn't define which units are on which of the two separate license)
how do you show proof of sex on front quarters, backstraps and loins when packing out?
legal bull has to have 4 points or more on one side ... 4x3 legal? 4x1 legal? ... goes on to state OR a brow tine of at least 5 inches ... 2x2 with 5"+ brow tine legal? (no, I am not planning on shooting but would like to know what is truly legal, last day might resort to minimum limits if given opportunity)
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/12/15 08:00 PM
To answer a few of those questions regarding the regs. If it has 4 points on one side it is legal. 4x1, 4x0, 4x4, 4x8 etc. Or, if it has a 5 inch brow tine it is legal, no matter how many points it has.
Its hard to say and do but...... Don't pass up on the first day what you would gladly shoot on the last day.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/12/15 08:06 PM
Bull only.
It's good for any OTC unit.
You don't. Just leave the cojones naturally attached to one of the hindquarters. Those game wardens are sharp and have all kinds of tricks up their sleeve to determine if the other quarters came off the same animal.
All of that is correct. It's just as it says. Just one side has to have 4 points or more. Anything with a brow time over 5" is legal. Most bulls that aren't spikes wil qualify, but double check on anything that's close.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/12/15 08:24 PM
thanks, I was thinking Bulls only but ZK thought he had heard either sex
good, I have a couple of sleeper cells (tough hunting but full of game, or was years ago) if we get sniped in 71 area
whew, I thought I was going to have to surgically split the testicles into the 5 chunks to pack out (4 quarters & straps/loins/skirts).
thanks! spikes used to be legal, had to be over 12, 16, 18 inches (don't recall which length) OR 4 points on one side (been a few years since I hunted up there)
thanks for the responses!!!
one more odd question ... it states the carcass tags must be securely attached to the carcass, not antler or horns ... exactly where are you supposed to attach the tag? one of the 4 legs? if so, does it matter which one you haul out first?
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/12/15 08:26 PM
No, there are two tags. One stays with meat other on persons
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/12/15 08:29 PM
Attach it wherever you can on the meat. Doesn't matter.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/12/15 08:32 PM
just not the antlers ... yes, I knew there were two parts to the tag (one on the hunter and one of the game), just odd to me that you had to attach to the carcass but not the antlers.
thanks!!!
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/12/15 08:37 PM
You are required to recover so much meat. You are not required to keep the antlers.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/12/15 09:27 PM
You are required to recover so much meat. You are not required to keep the antlers.
HA! yeah, by that 5th or 6th trip hauling meat out at that altitude, someone might just forgo making another trip to pack out a scrawny set of antlers.
Posted By: JSims
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/12/15 10:33 PM
I think I'm the one that told ZK that it was either sex. When I was looking, they show a cow tag or an either sex tag. Thanks for the clarification.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/12/15 11:02 PM
better to get clarification before squeezing the trigger late in the hunt on a cow or <5 inch spike
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/12/15 11:49 PM
Bull only.
It's good for any OTC unit.
You don't. Just leave the cojones naturally attached to one of the hindquarters. Those game wardens are sharp and have all kinds of tricks up their sleeve to determine if the other quarters came off the same animal.
All of that is correct. It's just as it says. Just one side has to have 4 points or more. Anything with a brow time over 5" is legal. Most bulls that aren't spikes wil qualify, but double check on anything that's close.
Yelp LO tags are either sex but ranch only, you can get them changed to unit tags but it turns to bull only
Posted By: Sq2 hunter
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/13/15 12:25 AM
I would bring a bore snake or something to clean the barrel. I was elk hunting one year and got snow in the barrel from it snowing. I always tape my barrel but it happen after I shot. Nothing worse than seeing the inside of your barrel to rust..
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/13/15 12:28 PM
Slept like caca last night, best night of sleep I have had in weeks!
After going and seeing the doc yesterday and getting on some meds to take away the nerve inflamation I am feeling quite a bit better. Slept poorly, but atleast I slept. I see myself doing much better before I leave on Thurs.
PMK, I am going to wait until Thurs to leave as I need to keep helping the misses for one more day. Turns out Thurs morning is a pretty busy one and I am taking my boy to school before I head out for the hunt.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/13/15 12:31 PM
What time you leaving deep? Are you going up and over straight throw west Texas?
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/13/15 12:46 PM
I would suspect Deep Sea will travel up 183 to Brownwood, 84 to Coleman, 153 to Sweetwater, 84 to Santa Rosa, IH40 to Albuquerque, 25 to Bernalilo, 550 to Durango, 160 to Cortez, 145 up to turn off to camp. That would be the route we would take if we weren't hooking up with JSimms NE of San Angelo Wed. evening for the night, then with Sneaky early Thursday in Sweetwater.
Deep Sea, glad you are feeling better, hopefully even more so with a couple more days of meds. Gotta keep mamma happy and always fun to spend time taking your kiddo to school before heading out. Maybe one of these days you and your son can make a memorable trip like ZK and I are fixing to have.
Cleric, which route will you be taking? thru Childress/Amarillo or thru Lubbock? appears only about 30 minutes difference between those routes.
Wondering how far along Chief Joe has made it???
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/13/15 12:51 PM
Planning through Amarillo. Last time I went out that way it worked...
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/13/15 02:14 PM
Chief is in Kansas with 1/3 of the trip left.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/13/15 02:20 PM
safe travels the rest of the way Chief
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/13/15 02:42 PM
I will be heading out after I drop my son at school. I will load up and leave from dropping him off at 08:00. Not needing to go pick up my brother now, so just basically NW up 71 to Brady and then pick up 87. At Brownfield I will keep going north to 84 so that I can go through Clovis.
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/13/15 02:47 PM
PMK, I actually prefer going up 71, that keeps me from going North around Austin. I have driven both ways and they are about equal.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/13/15 03:46 PM
Hope you boys are loaded up with some "r" gear... looks like it might be a wet one. Back when I was racing, we never used the "r" word in hopes that the wet stuff wouldn't show up.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/13/15 04:11 PM
Might be smart to consider tire chains also.
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/13/15 04:23 PM
Might be smart to consider tire chains also.
You seen the way Sneaky drives that truck of his? He won't need tires chains at all, just a deeper whole in his floor board.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/13/15 04:25 PM
No gottie tire chains. Gonna have to make due without them. What's the dirt like up there when wet? Is it slick clay, boggy mud, or what?
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/13/15 04:27 PM
It was like a good ole Georgia mud fest last year. Super slick deep mud wholes. No clay, just slick. Might as well have been ice. I nearly took out a couple of trees in mine due to lack of traction. Then again I was running stock michelins on my f250. That will never happen again.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/13/15 04:29 PM
Hopefully i'll be alright. Running some 35" toyo m/ts on the ol girl.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/13/15 04:29 PM
...oh, and its not a ferd
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/13/15 04:31 PM
Careful......
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/13/15 04:32 PM
LOL
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/13/15 04:58 PM
PMK, I actually prefer going up 71, that keeps me from going North around Austin. I have driven both ways and they are about equal.
on my last trip out to San Angelo, 71 had a LOT of construction between Llano & Brady, might be worth swinging thru Mason then up to Brady ... might check on construction either way.
I have traveled both up thru Brownwood and thru San Angelo from Georgetown, only about 15-20 minutes difference, flip a coin. I just avoid that area between Llano & Brady in the dark due to the huge number of deer.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/13/15 04:59 PM
The mud is slick, but 35" mud terrains don't have much to worry about. We don't leave the roads. It's just that they're dirt and not in the best shape. In fact, the main road up there that gets muddy is the one that goes to the back, up on top. The one that goes down to the trailhead is fine.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/14/15 02:25 AM
I'm holed up in Pagosa Springs. As far as I could go today. License is in my wallet. Got maybe 90 miles left. A stop in Durango and I'll head to the spot. Saw lots of vehicles along 160.. Drive safe!!
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/14/15 02:28 AM
Good deal Joe. We should be up there Thursday evening sometime and we will keep an eye out for you.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/14/15 12:38 PM
Enjoy the drive up. If you wave at people, don't expect the natives to wave back.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/14/15 12:46 PM
I believe this is the last day of the first season. We should hear from Western soon.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/14/15 12:49 PM
Was he planning to swing by our camp or was he planning to head on home?
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/14/15 01:22 PM
No gottie tire chains. Gonna have to make due without them. What's the dirt like up there when wet? Is it slick clay, boggy mud, or what?
It's usually the slick mud. Good news is they are more available up there if you decide you need them.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/14/15 01:31 PM
Even for 35s?
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/14/15 01:46 PM
Was he planning to swing by our camp or was he planning to head on home?
I don't think he was going to be able to swing by.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/14/15 01:47 PM
If it gets that bad, we're either stuck on the mountain or not going up it.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/14/15 01:51 PM
I told you I have a tow strap to pull you up if needed. And if that one breaks I have another one and a chain.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/14/15 01:58 PM
You don't need back up straps. You need a back up truck.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/14/15 02:03 PM
Maybe we should have brought a bigger trailer so one of us could get hauled back home
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/14/15 02:29 PM
At this rate, we're probably going to break something to prove a point.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/14/15 02:30 PM
lol you're probably right. As long as body panels aren't getting beat up, I'm not scared to try anything.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/14/15 02:33 PM
Hah! You're going to cringe when you see my body panels. I don't shy away from much.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/14/15 02:42 PM
Yes, I bought mine in Durango. 35's
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/14/15 02:43 PM
Will you be providing step-stools this year for your guests to get up in that behemoth?
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/14/15 02:47 PM
Hah! You're going to cringe when you see my body panels. I don't shy away from much.
I'm not scared of scratches, I just don't like dents haha. And mine being a long bed, my nerf bars are no longer straight. They are multi-purpose nerf bars/rock sliders
Yes, I bought mine in Durango. 35's
Good to know! Thanks.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/14/15 03:11 PM
those nerf bar/rock sliders might come in handy as a sled slids if the roads get mushy or slushy ...
one of my FIL stories from years ago, he took 6 or 7 sets of tire chains for his 2wd truck because he didn't have time to check to see which ones fit ... got to a point of needing them, and none of the 6-7 sets were anywhere close to fitting his truck
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/14/15 03:27 PM
Y'all are scaring me....
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/14/15 03:38 PM
That country drys out very quickly. Worst case just wait until dark or early AM when it's frozen then go up it
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/14/15 03:40 PM
You'll be fine. Just keep your arms and legs inside the ride at all times.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/14/15 03:56 PM
we should be fine getting up to camp before it starts getting damp ... might be tricky Sat. thru Tuesday ... and getting out at the end shouldn't be a problem. Just those first few days of the hunt. Likewise, the below weather is for Dolores which is quite a bit lower (~7000 ft), so our temps could be down around freezing at the altitude at camp (~9700 ft), possibly even snow???
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/14/15 04:22 PM
I use Rico for weather reports. It's quite a bit higher than Dolores and closer to where we are at
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/14/15 04:37 PM
Well I have the brisket smoked, started finishing it off in the oven this morning. Now my house smells like BBQ and my family is mad I didn't make two! I have most everything packed up and ready to put into the back of my Excursion and roll out in the morning. Dang good timing too, as I was looking at my deer sausage supply and it is almost gone. I will need to take some elk in for sausage when I get home!
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/14/15 04:56 PM
I assume the brisket is for us on Thursday night
I need to get packing tonight
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/14/15 04:59 PM
If so, yall better leave some for us!
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/14/15 04:59 PM
Will you be providing step-stools this year for your guests to get up in that behemoth?
Got a couple for the old folks.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/14/15 05:01 PM
I use Rico for weather reports. It's quite a bit higher than Dolores and closer to where we are at
That's probably a good idea. I always check Dolores and just factor in cooler temps, but Rico is bound to be more accurate.
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/14/15 05:02 PM
Should be plenty, started with a 15lb'er. Trimmed off about 3 lbs of fat and is about 11 lbs after cooking. I never have any leftovers when I make brisket, so I hope you guys enjoy.
There was talk about doing some grouse hunting while we are there, I looked online and it looks like all the grouse hunting is up north. Am I wrong on that?
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/14/15 05:07 PM
about time for me to go radio (aka forum) silent ... leaving work here in a little bit to wrap up loading. See some of you this evening, others tomorrow morning in Sweetwater, others at camp tomorrow night, others sometime on Friday. Safe travels to all and looking forward to meeting up for the hunt.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/14/15 05:08 PM
Yes. My area was plumb full of grouse last year. Now, last year was a banner year for grouse, but they'll be there. One spot in particular. Bring a shotgun and box of #6. If we tag a bull, we'll run to town for a small game license, for 56 bucks, and we're back hunting again.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/14/15 05:09 PM
That's not supposed to happen til we meet in person.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/14/15 05:37 PM
Chief is on the home stretch. He found Taylor Creek Rd.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/14/15 05:41 PM
That's not supposed to happen til we meet in person.
If he falls off the cliff for what ever reason make sure and bring my cooler back for me...lol
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/14/15 05:42 PM
Chief is on the home stretch. He found Taylor Creek Rd.
And I pass the scepter of the lonely Advance Guard to Sir Chief Joe. May he find a verdant green pasture with very little toilet paper fluttering in the wind to establish the 2nd Annual Camp Sneaky.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/14/15 05:42 PM
Will do. We almost did that one year, so it's a possibility.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/14/15 05:43 PM
Chief is on the home stretch. He found Taylor Creek Rd.
And I pass the scepter of the lonely Advance Guard to Sir Chief Joe. May he find a verdant green pasture with very little toilet paper fluttering in the wind to establish the 2nd Annual Camp Sneaky.
I guess we've started a tradition of the old man in the group staking out camp.
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/14/15 05:49 PM
Chief is on the home stretch. He found Taylor Creek Rd.
And I pass the scepter of the lonely Advance Guard to Sir Chief Joe. May he find a verdant green pasture with very little toilet paper fluttering in the wind to establish the 2nd Annual Camp Sneaky.
I guess we've started a tradition of the old man in the group staking out camp.
As I am now officially on the backside of my 50's, those are starting to sting a little more.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/14/15 05:49 PM
Will do. We almost did that one year, so it's a possibility.
Lol, Y'all be careful and have a great trip!!!
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/14/15 05:52 PM
Chief is on the home stretch. He found Taylor Creek Rd.
And I pass the scepter of the lonely Advance Guard to Sir Chief Joe. May he find a verdant green pasture with very little toilet paper fluttering in the wind to establish the 2nd Annual Camp Sneaky.
I guess we've started a tradition of the old man in the group staking out camp.
As I am now officially on the backside of my 50's, those are starting to sting a little more.
It's alright as long as you can still get out there and mix it up with the youngsters. Or watch them from the top of the mountain. Whatever works.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/14/15 05:52 PM
Will do. We almost did that one year, so it's a possibility.
Lol, Y'all be careful and have a great trip!!!
Thanks Bobo.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/14/15 06:43 PM
Chief is picking out a spot, now. First one had a big group that hunted 1st season and is staying for 2nd. Moving on to the next one.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/14/15 07:04 PM
keep us posted. If he has a way to pinpoint his gps location, that might help us find him, unless you know where he is lol.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/14/15 07:08 PM
He found a spot. I don't know yet exactly where it's at, but I have an idea. He won't be hard to find. I'm sure as he gets service he'll give me a better idea.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/14/15 07:19 PM
He said it's the next one in. Assuming he is on the right road, it'll be easy. If he's on the wrong road, it still won't be too hard to find him.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/14/15 07:23 PM
Well once we get up there, we'll stick you up front to find him.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/14/15 07:38 PM
Yep. Just do your best to keep up. I'll be in go mode, by then.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/14/15 07:42 PM
pffft. Tall gears and tall tires..cake walk. I'm only turning 2k at 80.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/14/15 07:47 PM
I've got high gearing, too, but it's not going to help any on that mountain road. You'll understand when you see the drop offs. It ain't the truck, at that point.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/14/15 07:50 PM
All in the driver? That's pretty understandable. I've been around a few offroad parks where there's some really good drivers with limited rigs, and really bad drivers with really nice rigs doing the same things. Just have to know where your limits are.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/14/15 07:54 PM
And I don't, always.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/14/15 07:55 PM
lol that'll get ya in trouble right there.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/14/15 07:56 PM
I don't mess around with those narrow roads with sheer drop offs, though. We really did come dang close to going over, once. The tire was hanging off the edge. I had a good look at it, because I got out. I told him there was no point in both of us dying.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/14/15 07:59 PM
You and me both. I don't do heights, especially in a vehicle.
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/14/15 08:30 PM
2nd site in is where that nice group that's been gong there 15+ years was last year.
How does that 1st group work it? Folks drew on 1st season and didn't connect run down and buy an OTC tag for 2nd season?
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/14/15 10:07 PM
He said he's on the same side of the road as last year's camp. I asked him to avoid their site, since they've been using it for so long, but I'm not sure if he knows exactly what is what.
I don't think you can buy both tags. It was probably a split party of those that drew and those that didn't.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/14/15 10:34 PM
Pack weighs 20lbs without water...
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/14/15 10:35 PM
That's not light, but not bad. I'm sure mine weighs at least that much.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/14/15 10:38 PM
Imma take another pass through and try to get it lighter...got some ideas
Posted By: Sq2 hunter
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/14/15 11:18 PM
Does that include your gun!?
Hope you boys kill some bigguns! Have fun and be safe.
Posted By: bp3
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/15/15 01:13 AM
Been keeping up with this post, sounds like it will a good trip. I'am getting to long in the tooth or I would be up there.Drive safe, hunt safe and have a good time while your young.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/15/15 01:15 AM
Thanks, guys. It's going to be fun, anyway.
Wish I was going with you boys.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/15/15 01:21 AM
Does that include your gun!?
No
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/15/15 01:58 AM
Wish I was going with you boys.
You're welcome to anytime you can swing it.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/15/15 01:59 AM
Does that include your gun!?
No
You'll figure it out in a few days, or years, or, like me, you'll just learn to live with the weight.
Wish I was going with you boys.
You're welcome to anytime you can swing it.
I'm gonna take you up on that one year. I'm just letting you boys scout for the old man right now.
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/15/15 03:07 AM
Good luck and safe travels gentlemen. It might be worth sharing some "spirits" with those boys from LA, AL area if elk sightings are minimal. They have it figured it out for sure. Best of luck to you.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/15/15 11:39 AM
We'll save you one, Nog.
Not a bad idea, Ringworm. We'll have to check in with them, anyway.
We'll, we're on our way. Updates to follow.
Posted By: Shawheel
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/15/15 12:25 PM
Good luck, gentlemen. Looking forward to the trophy pics.
Posted By: Sq2 hunter
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/15/15 12:31 PM
The chance for rain has dropped significantly
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/15/15 02:29 PM
Let it rain. That's exactly what we need.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/16/15 03:35 AM
So the totality of the situation finally hit me...
I am driving many hours to another state to meet people off the internet with guns in a remote field in the mountains...
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/16/15 05:00 AM
No, it's a remote forest. Besides, it's an adventure. Those are always fun. We're here in camp, and there's been no casualties so far. We raced to the top, and I won. Everybody survived. You two just need to get up here and join in on the fun.
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/16/15 01:57 PM
So the totality of the situation finally hit me...
I am driving many hours to another state to meet people off the internet with guns in a remote field in the mountains...
, my wife told me the same thing last year and was very "concerned" to put it nicely. Wouldn't have traded that time to do anything else, with anyone else. It was an absolute blast. Just put in for time off next year to do it all over again. Great folks up there with similar interests, enjoying the outdoors. That's all I need. (just be sure to sleep with one eye open though
)
Posted By: YellowDog
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/16/15 02:51 PM
So what's the average age of this hunting group????
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/16/15 02:57 PM
So the totality of the situation finally hit me...
I am driving many hours to another state to meet people off the internet with guns in a remote field in the mountains...
Now you're caught up. Reminds me of the joke with the last two lines "Did you jump?" and the answer "The first time."
Posted By: crosshare
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/16/15 04:41 PM
I had the same thoughts! Figured going at it alone might be safer
Good luck guys!
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/16/15 04:44 PM
So the totality of the situation finally hit me...
I am driving many hours to another state to meet people off the internet with guns in a remote field in the mountains...
Yes, you have a good grasp of the situation. You ever watch that movie "Wrong Turn"?
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/16/15 06:39 PM
, or "Surviving the Game".
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/17/15 04:23 PM
Guy's are set up I believe, for a phenomenal hunt, if they hunt it right. Has been way hot and the elk have been staging higher than normal.
I have a long story, but doubt anyone would want to read it, suffice to say I let a few go, on a quest for a great bull that was in the section I was in. Also grazed a bear that was probably one of a lifetime. One of the best trips I can recall and I didn't bring a thing home but a few trout and some rocks. Took my butt chewing like a man from the boss lady for letting some elk go, but no worse the wear.
Spoke with Sneaky a few times prior to the opener, he has a great plan and I am confident they will be a good position to have a good score %, or at least opportunity.
I watched over a 1200 head herd as they enjoyed the warmer temps, The small bands are trying to come down, and the heat has held them around 9500', so the groups have become large. All they need is some nasty weather
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/17/15 04:37 PM
Glad you had a safe vacation, welcome back Western. Great excuse for next year to get back up there
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/17/15 06:00 PM
Thanks BOBO, one of my favorite trips on account of the bear encounters. Wish the dominoes would have fell different on the bear shot, but having the option to turn down a couple bulls and roll the dice on that big one, was a win IMO. Sure a great place to spend time, even for just 5 day's of hunting.
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/17/15 06:53 PM
Sounds amazing Western. Any pics for us stranded at home
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/17/15 07:04 PM
Sounds amazing Western. Any pics for us stranded at home
I had a few camp photos, but for some damn reason, they never loaded to photobucket before I erased all my sent and received
All I have now is a dumb flip phone, so the range of the photos would have been out. After this year, I may get one of those digital recorders I have been talking to Rifleman about, I just hate having more to keep up with in the field, but getting the bear action I saw this year on tape, or whatever , would have been awesome. Watched those cubs play for some time a few days, they are hilarious.
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/17/15 08:53 PM
Alright, alright. I'll be your photographer next year. May I pick up a rifle after you tag out?
Sounds like a great trip Western! Nothing like it for sure.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/17/15 10:27 PM
Alright, alright. I'll be your photographer next year. May I pick up a rifle after you tag out?
You cant do two things at once? I was even thinking what about mounting one of those digital recorders to the rifle? ,but knowing me, I'd forget to turn the darn thing on....
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/17/15 10:31 PM
Sounds like a great trip Western! Nothing like it for sure.
You got that right NP, almost like going to church, less the offering plate and old ladies perfume! LOL.
BTW, Trout bite was easy, but getting to where I can't take the flavor
Kinda getting more into the whitefish (striper/hybrid, crappie, walleye) more. They sure are fun to catch though, just used powerbait and a few salmon eggs.
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/17/15 10:57 PM
Sounds amazing Western. Any pics for us stranded at home
I had a few camp photos, but for some damn reason, they never loaded to photobucket before I erased all my sent and received
All I have now is a dumb flip phone, so the range of the photos would have been out. After this year, I may get one of those digital recorders I have been talking to Rifleman about, I just hate having more to keep up with in the field, but getting the bear action I saw this year on tape, or whatever , would have been awesome. Watched those cubs play for some time a few days, they are hilarious.
Could get an iPhone & spotter adapter...also beats woodpeckerin' a phone to type.
Good trip.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/17/15 11:10 PM
Never heard of a "spotter adapter"......My flip phone, you kind a have to perch peck it LOL
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/17/15 11:38 PM
I scope
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/17/15 11:42 PM
Tried that once , doesn't seem to work to good with a flip phone. Also wouldn't work well on a moving target I'd think. Digital recorder seems to make sense and I would like the video to have for later. I assume you can pull stills from those things as well??
Sounds like a great trip Western! Nothing like it for sure.
You got that right NP, almost like going to church, less the offering plate and old ladies perfume! LOL.
BTW, Trout bite was easy, but getting to where I can't take the flavor
Kinda getting more into the whitefish (striper/hybrid, crappie, walleye) more. They sure are fun to catch though, just used powerbait and a few salmon eggs.
Heck I like white perch and catfish better too. Trout taste good because of where you eat 'em!
Posted By: tex70
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/18/15 03:01 AM
x2 NP, wasn't impressed the 1 & only time I had them in Estes but it was something I had to try at least once
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/18/15 04:51 AM
Sounds like a great trip Western! Nothing like it for sure.
You got that right NP, almost like going to church, less the offering plate and old ladies perfume! LOL.
BTW, Trout bite was easy, but getting to where I can't take the flavor
Kinda getting more into the whitefish (striper/hybrid, crappie, walleye) more. They sure are fun to catch though, just used powerbait and a few salmon eggs.
Heck I like white perch and catfish better too. Trout taste good because of where you eat 'em!
Have to agree, only place I can stomach processed meat (pre packeaged cold cuts) sandwiches too, for some reason some things just taste better in the mountains, could be the cooking method IDK
Posted By: mow
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/19/15 04:36 PM
This is better than watching soaps with the wife..lol..at the edge of my archery deer blind here in ranger Texas wishing I was there..waiting for next post from sneaky..and pix of a big bull...
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/19/15 04:56 PM
It's been slow. Chief, Cleric and I spotted a very nice six point at 1050. Saw a couple in our bowl. No shots. Just a few resident elk out of range. The nasty weather hit last night and this morning. Waiting for that migration to come through.
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/19/15 04:59 PM
Go get that six. Time to get dirty (and sneaky).
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/19/15 05:00 PM
Can you move to within range (change set-up)? Still warm? Hopefully it snows in the higher country like it did before my hunt, that at least got a few moving even though they went back up 2 days later
Good luck fellas, your seeing some and that is half the battle.
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/19/15 06:11 PM
Heck, if I recall Sneaky has dope on that rig out to 1,000 mounted on the stock. Just need another 50 yds or so. You got all week to pack it out.
Posted By: Reata
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/19/15 06:14 PM
Good luck!
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/19/15 06:21 PM
Heck, if I recall Sneaky has dope on that rig out to 1,000 mounted on the stock. Just need another 50 yds or so. You got all week to pack it out.
Then we at least know he can get his stock out to that far!
With the crew he has this year, they will have that bull out in 15 minutes
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/19/15 06:36 PM
Lol.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/19/15 07:10 PM
I went after him. They bedded down in some dark timber off the point we found last year. It took me a few hours to get over there and drop in on them. I don't know if they went down in the private land, gave me the slip, or what, but I never caught up with them. And I can't shoot that far. I have the numbers, but that's quite a shot.
I'm hoping with all this rain we got, it snowed a bunch up high and started pushing them to us.
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/19/15 07:31 PM
Oh how could I forget "that point". Creekrunner's favorite glassing location. Glad to hear the weather is working in your favor. Thanks for the update.
Posted By: mow
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/19/15 08:02 PM
Riveting.. Following..intently..
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/19/15 10:15 PM
I went after him. They bedded down in some dark timber off the point we found last year. It took me a few hours to get over there and drop in on them. I don't know if they went down in the private land, gave me the slip, or what, but I never caught up with them. And I can't shoot that far. I have the numbers, but that's quite a shot.
I'm hoping with all this rain we got, it snowed a bunch up high and started pushing them to us.
Yes sir, they are pretty cleaver when some one try's "dropping in on them". If they are locals, they likely will be back until time to move out, may set up where they are half as far. Snow high and nasty weather, should get you some movement soon. Trail watching?
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/19/15 10:44 PM
Best of luck to all of y'all bravin' Colorado wilderness right now.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/19/15 10:57 PM
I went after him. They bedded down in some dark timber off the point we found last year. It took me a few hours to get over there and drop in on them. I don't know if they went down in the private land, gave me the slip, or what, but I never caught up with them. And I can't shoot that far. I have the numbers, but that's quite a shot.
I'm hoping with all this rain we got, it snowed a bunch up high and started pushing them to us.
Yes sir, they are pretty cleaver when some one try's "dropping in on them". If they are locals, they likely will be back until time to move out, may set up where they are half as far. Snow high and nasty weather, should get you some movement soon. Trail watching?
Yes. We've been watching bowls and trails. If I could have set up on him half way, I would have. If we went out on that point, we might could have seen them below us, but it would be tough and we would probably have spooked them on the way in. That's why I just went for it. I knew it was unlikely. I'm hoping they come back, for whatever that's worth.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/19/15 11:20 PM
Been in situations like that, sometimes all you can do is make the best guess at the time. You didn't shoot at them, so likely they just saw you as a nuisance.
Seeing anything on the trails yet? should start getting tore up when they start to move. Weather sux, but if you can stand it, it is a good thing this time around.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/19/15 11:29 PM
Nothing on the trails.
Last year, we ran into several bulls on top, near the edges. Nobody up there has seen a thing. In the bowls, we've seen just a few. We're just covering miles and waiting for the migration.
Posted By: A.B.
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/19/15 11:37 PM
Good luck gentleman, and sneaky too.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/19/15 11:38 PM
Setting up great for you. Was almost the same for me, but one day of rough weather isnt squat.. Plenty of mntn oats still green at 9500'. All you can do now is wait them out, you may get another opportunity on that 6 too.
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/20/15 02:08 AM
Tomorrow's another day. And, I predict, somebody in the group is gonna kill a bull.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/20/15 02:10 AM
If that 6 pointer picks the wrong bowl tomorrow morning
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/20/15 02:10 AM
Good luck gentleman, and sneaky too.
Thanks.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/20/15 02:12 AM
Tomorrow's another day. And, I predict, somebody in the group is gonna kill a bull.
I hope you're right. I'm going to cover some miles tomorrow and check out some new spots. Everyone else is hunting the usual spots.
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/20/15 02:20 AM
Y'all must have way better cell service than we had last year. A new tower must have gone up?
Posted By: Shawheel
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/20/15 02:43 AM
Or Sneaky got a new booster...
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/20/15 02:49 AM
We have wifi at our satellite camp.
Posted By: Shawheel
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/20/15 02:50 AM
"Roughing it"
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/20/15 02:53 AM
We did find a new base camp lower down the mountain, closer to where we hunt. There's no service at all, there, but it's a much better drive.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/20/15 02:54 AM
Oh yeah. I just hope the Eagles lose.
Posted By: Shawheel
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/20/15 02:55 AM
You guys still heading in at that same trailhead, or did you find a different entry point?
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/20/15 06:41 PM
Sneaky, you take tennis shoes, or do we need to ship a pair??
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/21/15 01:12 AM
Ok, I know my prediction was correct. The only question is, which member of the group downed something? (I'm sure they're all still helping pack out.) I'll check back later.
Posted By: Shawheel
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/21/15 01:24 AM
I'm with ya, CR. I think today was the day.
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/21/15 01:35 AM
If not today, Thursday for sure. Chance of snow the last I checked.
Posted By: ChrisB
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/21/15 01:38 AM
I'm ready to see some elk pics. I've been clicking on this thread wishing I could go do this for two years now.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/21/15 02:30 AM
Some hunt up top. Some of us go up the main trail. I found a different trail, and CR was right. Today was the day, but it didn't work out quite right. I shot a decent bull, but I shot through some saplings to do it. The shot felt good, but he travelled a long ways. I followed the blood trail as far as I could. When it went dry, I went up and down every trail and came up empty. It's been a long, tough day. That bowl he bailed off in to was wicked. I'll give it another shot tomorrow by sitting on that bowl, glassing and watching for birds.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/21/15 02:39 AM
You got it. Just be patient. Look for the nasty stuff!!!
Weather is cool enough your good for sure. Birds would be thrusday at the earliest
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/21/15 02:45 AM
If you don't find him no one can that's for sure. I shutter to think how many miles you will hike this year. Hope it all works out for you.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/21/15 03:31 AM
You got it. Just be patient. Look for the nasty stuff!!!
Weather is cool enough your good for sure. Birds would be thrusday at the earliest
I'm hoping for the best. Haven't given up yet.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/21/15 03:36 AM
If you don't find him no one can that's for sure. I shutter to think how many miles you will hike this year. Hope it all works out for you.
I put in a lot of rough miles today in that bowl.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/21/15 08:44 AM
Sounds like a high shoulder, had that happen once, fella on private land I know had a client put it down. Found my 7mm lodged in muscle above the shoulder. Said they couldn't even tell it was hit, the way it was acting. Sneaky, I followed blood drops for 3 hrs, then circled for 4 more, a whole day and the bull just kept on going.
Hope you find him if it was lethal, good your starting to get into them as well, good luck bud.
Posted By: A.B.
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/21/15 10:39 AM
Good luck on the recovery brother. I got faith.
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/21/15 11:36 AM
Been there. Hang tough my friend.
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/21/15 12:31 PM
Tough break. If snow is coming tomorrow, birds will might be on him this evening. Any water around there that's somewhat still?
Posted By: 1860.colt
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/21/15 12:57 PM
Agree with
rifleman ... Wounded animal head twards water... Replace fluids lost & wallows ta clot up wound... Many times on hog hunts, see the buzzards, & fond hogs left ta lay... Best Wishes
Sneaky .
Hope you find him brother. I too have faith. Keep a positive attitude - it's hard but it's key.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/21/15 01:50 PM
You got it. Just be patient. Look for the nasty stuff!!!
Weather is cool enough your good for sure. Birds would be thrusday at the earliest
I'm hoping for the best. Haven't given up yet.
My bull went 800 yards. I got to far back on a quartering away shot. Lots of blood then lost the trail.
Move slow and remember down hill is easy for an elk. If he laid up it will be in the nasty stuff, and not always at the bottom.
You're not the only one to have a sleepless night. Keep you're head up. That country can feel overwhelming when you're looking for an elk. Just use and listen to your instincts, they won't steer you wrong.
Good luck sneaky
Posted By: crosshare
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/21/15 02:08 PM
Good luck Sneaky! Take some of the minions with you and make them look since your the leader
I'd help but this thing called work has me tied up. Keep us posted!
Wish you luck finding your bull Sneaky.
Posted By: Reata
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/21/15 02:40 PM
Good luck! Sounds like he was hit hard. Wish I was there to help!
Posted By: BOLT GUY
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/21/15 04:55 PM
Good Luck Sneaky, hope you recover your Bull and a couple of more hit the ground!
Best of luck Buddy!
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/21/15 11:21 PM
Check in when y'all can. Hope it was a good day. Hell, PM me and the others, if you don't want to post it up for ridicule by the pet coon.
Check in when y'all can. Hope it was a good day. Hell, PM me and the others, if you don't want to post it up for ridicule by the pet coon.
Creekrunner, the timing wasn't good for that post I'll agree. But I assure you if you met/knew him you would not of posted what you just posted. If he was there, he would be leading the group looking for that bull. Sometimes humor doesn't come across when typed in cyber space. If Sneaky knew him like I do, he would not of reacted to it the way he did.
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/22/15 12:35 AM
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, with respect.
Posted By: mow
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/22/15 12:55 AM
???? Updates...Hope you found him sneaky
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/22/15 03:04 AM
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, with respect.
Its funny how some perceive stuff. Restating the mistake points you back to where the bull took impact. Regardless how you took it id look at
Through a tree..... Bull lives
Nick a tree, depends on the Nick was bad enough to cause bullet intregaty issues, so size of the nick. Two signs that help determine how one proceeds, and how one sleeps.
Two good out comes sneaky finds dead bull, sneaky see bull again. I hope for the first.
I was in sneaky' shoes this year already... It wasn't a fun night, ended up a great outcome even after me screwing up and bumping my bull when I knew better and to back out and just give it time.
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/22/15 03:29 AM
This thread is about an elk hunt taking place currently. I'm trying to check on a friend.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/22/15 03:38 AM
Thanks guys. A bull was spotted in that bowl today by Deep Sea, across from where I was sitting. The herd of cows that was with him looks like the same herd. Too many details to type, but I have reason to believe it is likely him. I waited him out this evening, and he didn't come out in time. I'll be back in the morning.
Pitchfork, I'm sure he's a decent guy, but that was not humor. He has clearly stated, on this forum, that he can't stand me. That was a legitimate jab at me, and it was childish. Period. I appreciate the mods deleting it, and that's all I have to say about it. I don't have the time for Facebook games.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/22/15 03:44 AM
Bobo, I spent a lot of time today investigating the crime scene and going over and over the details. I can't say for sure what happened. There were a few small saplings in front of him that I thought were close and I could punch through. Maybe that was a mistake, but best I can tell, the saplings were probably not as close as I thought, which could cause more deflection. And possibly that wasn't even it. There was a lot of adrenalin flowing. Maybe I just blew the shot. I don't know. I haven't given up yet.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/22/15 04:07 AM
Bobo, I spent a lot of time today investigating the crime scene and going over and over the details. I can't say for sure what happened. There were a few small saplings in front of him that I thought were close and I could punch through. Maybe that was a mistake, but best I can tell, the saplings were probably not as close as I thought, which could cause more deflection. And possibly that wasn't even it. There was a lot of adrenalin flowing. Maybe I just blew the shot. I don't know. I haven't given up yet.
Sneaky honestly sounds like bull is still alive, and think western called it and it went high. This time of year you'd see a fresh mark on a sapling or broken limb.
I bet it's him they saw and he went to the other bowl.
Keep your head up, don't forget your on a mountain, watching the seasons change daily. One of the best views in the country and its hard to beat. Wish I was up there.
Posted By: A.B.
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/22/15 10:42 AM
Pitchfork, I'm sure he's a decent guy, but that was not humor. He has clearly stated, on this forum, that he can't stand me. That was a legitimate jab at me, and it was childish. Period. I appreciate the mods deleting it, and that's all I have to say about it. I don't have the time for Facebook games.
Hell you ain't alone and kudos to you and CR.
Good luck on finding your bull.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/22/15 03:28 PM
Are y'all seeing any new main trails? I am wondering if you are in a normal migratory route area? I know a lot of elk from around Mt Wilson will move East towards disappointment valley, in fact, quite a few elk head towards DV , also towards Dove Creek and Edgnar, near the bean fields.
No doubt elk move through your area though, so if your seeing them each day, that's a good sign. Have the temps dropped?
Stay positive fellas, every time the sun comes up, it is a whole new ballgame when they migrate.
Posted By: dgilbert
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/22/15 03:45 PM
Some hunt up top. Some of us go up the main trail. I found a different trail, and CR was right. Today was the day, but it didn't work out quite right. I shot a decent bull, but I shot through some saplings to do it. The shot felt good, but he travelled a long ways. I followed the blood trail as far as I could. When it went dry, I went up and down every trail and came up empty. It's been a long, tough day. That bowl he bailed off in to was wicked. I'll give it another shot tomorrow by sitting on that bowl, glassing and watching for birds.
I feel your pain, been there, they say I single lunged mine, and they could travel for miles on a single lung, keep positive thoughts, and good luck.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/22/15 03:48 PM
Another thought, if you aren't doing this already.
If there is a deep semi wide canyon (500-1000 yards across or so), with thick cover, steep sides, bonus if there is a stream at the bottom. I'd put a guy or 2 watching those type areas. Many times they will travel there and hole up there, since they hardly ever get pressure in canyons. They will have folks skirt the edge, but have no issue waiting them out as they walk by.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/22/15 06:11 PM
Keep your head up, don't forget your on a mountain, watching the seasons change daily. One of the best views in the country and its hard to beat. Wish I was up there.
I am serving as the semi photographer. I would post pictures but can't directly form iPhone anymore. When I get back I will post some video from the the go pro and photos.
It is gorgeous up here
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/22/15 06:57 PM
Keep your head up, don't forget your on a mountain, watching the seasons change daily. One of the best views in the country and its hard to beat. Wish I was up there.
I am serving as the semi photographer. I would post pictures but can't directly form iPhone anymore. When I get back I will post some video from the the go pro and photos.
It is gorgeous up here
Be sure and capture the around the campfire, after a little Jameson aspect of the hunt. But do tell them you're filming so it's fit to post.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/22/15 11:24 PM
I'm fairly certain that was him holed up in a small patch of dark timber that Deep Sea saw the bull in. He bugles when his herd gets close. It's a pretty sad bugle, too. I think he has been holed up there since I shot him. Weather had been nasty. Rain, sleet, hail, and snow.
I couldn't sit there and watch that timber anymore, knowing he was unlikely to come out. I set Jsims, ZK-315, and PMK around that bowl with orders to shoot on site. Then I went in there to either shoot him in his bed or flush him out for them to shoot. I worked all of that timber and the oak brush and quakies around it and found nothing. Ended up going all the way to the bottom of the bowl, about a mile from camp. The boys picked me up about halfway. Don't know if he slipped out, stayed put, or what. I'll go back in the morning and see if there's any sign of him. If his cows come through, he'll bugle at them before the sun comes up. I'll get up early and see what happens. I'm not done just yet.
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/22/15 11:29 PM
'Upsets me I'm not there to try and help. You're doing everything you can. Sleep well.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/22/15 11:30 PM
Are y'all seeing any new main trails? I am wondering if you are in a normal migratory route area? I know a lot of elk from around Mt Wilson will move East towards disappointment valley, in fact, quite a few elk head towards DV , also towards Dove Creek and Edgnar, near the bean fields.
No doubt elk move through your area though, so if your seeing them each day, that's a good sign. Have the temps dropped?
Stay positive fellas, every time the sun comes up, it is a whole new ballgame when they migrate.
It is cooler. Lots of weather. Snow up high. Still not seeing the migration where we are, but this bull has had me tied up in one spot, so I'm not sure.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/22/15 11:33 PM
Bobo, I spent a lot of time today investigating the crime scene and going over and over the details. I can't say for sure what happened. There were a few small saplings in front of him that I thought were close and I could punch through. Maybe that was a mistake, but best I can tell, the saplings were probably not as close as I thought, which could cause more deflection. And possibly that wasn't even it. There was a lot of adrenalin flowing. Maybe I just blew the shot. I don't know. I haven't given up yet.
Sneaky honestly sounds like bull is still alive, and think western called it and it went high. This time of year you'd see a fresh mark on a sapling or broken limb.
I bet it's him they saw and he went to the other bowl.
Keep your head up, don't forget your on a mountain, watching the seasons change daily. One of the best views in the country and its hard to beat. Wish I was up there.
I believe he is alive, too. Too much evidence that supports it. I inspected every sapling in between that could have possibly been in the way. I found two breaks that were fresh enough, but they looked like clean breaks and not bullet strikes. Hard to say.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/22/15 11:37 PM
I appreciate all the suggestions and support. I've got another good group up here this year, and they've been a big help. These animals are just tough and hard to catch up to. They don't leave much room for mistakes.
Hang in there Sneaky - we are pulling for you buddy. Sounds like you've got some great help.
Posted By: crosshare
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/23/15 12:14 AM
You got him on the ropes now! Time too
Posted By: Shawheel
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/23/15 12:41 AM
Any updates on the other hunters? Are they seeing anything?
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/23/15 02:08 AM
Everybody has seen elk. A lot of cows without bulls. First season guys cleaned up pretty well. We did see a real nice six point off of that point we went to last year. He was too far for a shot. Then I saw the bull I shot. I think that's all the bulls we've seen.
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/23/15 02:22 AM
Sure would like to see that country and game in the first season.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/23/15 02:37 AM
Last day of hunting for me tomorrow. Please pray to the hunting gods for me tomorrow
Posted By: Reata
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/23/15 03:14 AM
Hope you get a good one Cleric!
Wish you all luck and would rather be there than here!
Posted By: Shawheel
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/23/15 12:16 PM
Go git em!
Good luck to everyone
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/23/15 01:57 PM
Everybody has seen elk. A lot of cows without bulls. First season guys cleaned up pretty well. We did see a real nice six point off of that point we went to last year. He was too far for a shot. Then I saw the bull I shot. I think that's all the bulls we've seen.
I'd bet many of the bulls are breaking from the cows and making small 2-3 head bachelor groups by now, may check those places I mentioned earlier (deep ravine side walls and thick, less people traveled areas)
Posted By: Texas Tatonkas
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/23/15 03:39 PM
Hope yall are having fun, sounds like a hard battle up there! Good luck for the remainder of the trip.
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/24/15 12:10 AM
Today's update?
Posted By: Shawheel
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/24/15 01:10 AM
Hopefully a late check in means they're packing something out.
Posted By: Shawheel
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/24/15 01:58 PM
I'm taking radio silence as a good sign. Hopefully they're busy!
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/24/15 02:02 PM
My money's on sleeping in. After a night of celebration.
Posted By: rifleman
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/24/15 02:31 PM
A group I've been talking to East of them have had storms and slush/snow most of yesterday.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/24/15 06:15 PM
From what little I am hearing, they have been busting their butts so far. Staying at it and not getting worn down is all you can do. It has been a unique weather pattern this Fall.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/24/15 06:16 PM
It's not over until they start the truck and head South
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/24/15 11:52 PM
Friday was a long day for me...
Unfortunately didn't see anything
I headed out this morning. But some others were going out today. The weather should have been good so I don't expect them back in camp for another few hours. Than if they go to town they can update
Posted By: Creekrunner
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/25/15 12:02 AM
Friday was a long day for me...
Unfortunately didn't see anything
I headed out this morning. But some others were going out today. The weather should have been good so I don't expect them back in camp for another few hours. Than if they go to town they can update
Shiny side up. Be safe.
Posted By: huntnfishtx
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/25/15 02:19 AM
Been enjoying keeping up with y'alls hunt.... I'll be headed out next Sunday for 3rd season one unit to y'alls east.
Posted By: Shawheel
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/25/15 03:41 AM
Depending on work I may end up hunting 3rd rifle season next year. Post to this thread or PM me how it goes. Good luck!
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/26/15 01:34 AM
Nothing good to report. Weather was nice the past couple days, but no luck. There were elk in the bowl I sat yesterday and today, but they stuck to the other side in the dark timber and never gave me a shot. That's alright. I had my chance. We hunted hard and had a good time. I can find elk, I'm just not the best at killing them. I thoroughly enjoyed it. I hope to do it again.
Be safe on the way home. Hope y'all had a great time in God's country!
And please remember this: when it all does come together and a big bull lays before you one day, the success will be all the more sweet because of the struggles.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/26/15 02:11 AM
No one can say you guys didn't give it 100%, that is a long hard hunt.
Posted By: bp3
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/26/15 02:14 AM
Been there and done that but always had fun. Hoping the patch rebounds so a lot of guys I know can continue to go.
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/26/15 02:51 AM
Well after giving it hell for a week, I pulled out Saturday morning. It was a tough go and I have to say different than I thought it would be. All in all I had a great time, met some really great people and look forward to trying again next year. Now that I know a little more about how and what I need to do. Will be a little more prepared next year. All of the advice that Sneaky and others gave on here was great, but you don't know until you actually get your but hiking up the side of a mountain at 4:30 in the morning, you just don't know. Thanks to all who went, I had a great time!
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/26/15 03:02 AM
I slept in today (after 4:00 am) in my own bed....it was amazing
Posted By: Reata
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/26/15 03:19 AM
I've been following this thread all year and thoroughly enjoyed reading along. I have great respect for the preparation, planning and perseverance showed by all.
You got out there and went for it, that's what it's all about!
Posted By: huntnfishtx
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/26/15 04:49 AM
I've been following this thread (and the one last year). Like I said before, I'll be headed up next weekend for 3rd OTC season.
Even though I'll be hunting one unit East of where y'all did, I'd be curious if there is any info to pass on about how the Elk are relating to valleys, ridges, trailheads and what have you.
Posted By: Deep Sea
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/26/15 01:26 PM
huntnfishtx,
I wish I could help you more, the elk we were seeing (little of) seemed to be resident elk that were holding pretty tight to the bowls in areas little traveled by hunters. We did not seem to see any of the migration to lower elevations. I did see a heard of elk by Jsimms place in a pasture on my way out of town, so they may be coming further out of the mountains now.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/26/15 01:50 PM
I've been following this thread (and the one last year). Like I said before, I'll be headed up next weekend for 3rd OTC season.
Even though I'll be hunting one unit East of where y'all did, I'd be curious if there is any info to pass on about how the Elk are relating to valleys, ridges, trailheads and what have you.
Good luck up there.
You may hit the migration if you're on a good route. Otherwise, you'll be hunting the resident herds. They've been getting a lot of pressure, just like every year. The resident herds are in the steep and thick country. Hunt where nobody else will, or find a migration route.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/26/15 01:53 PM
Be safe on the way home. Hope y'all had a great time in God's country!
And please remember this: when it all does come together and a big bull lays before you one day, the success will be all the more sweet because of the struggles.
It was a great time. We had another good group and we did at least have fun. I just can't tell if I'm in better shape or worse because of some of the adventures I thought were a good idea at the time.
Posted By: txtrophy85
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/26/15 02:02 PM
I just got back in from Colorado and the hunting was slow
Best Bulls were killed very near the trailhead and lower elevations. One was shot and died almost in the parking lot
We got way off the beaten path and hunted hard ( I walked 22 miles from sat.-thurs) and only saw 3 cow elk within range and a few herds a mile off up around 11k'
Elk are gonna be where you find them
We were remote and in low pressure areas and saw very few elk
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/26/15 02:16 PM
It was pretty slow for us. They were scattered pretty good from all the rain they had, though not as bad as I've seen before. The weather was miserable most days, too. Lots of rain and sleet.
Posted By: dgilbert
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/26/15 03:18 PM
Sorry to hear no luck, but good times are hard to beat for sure.
Posted By: TxAg
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/26/15 03:29 PM
Cheers to you boys for giving it a good go. And, thumbs'up to you Sneaky for giving it all you had to recover that bull. You showed that animal and the hunt great respect by doing all you could.
Sometimes things do not go as planned when hunting the big high country out west. Safe journey home fellas.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/26/15 06:08 PM
It's all good Sneaky, like me, y'all at least get a "participation" trophy
I am still getting the riot act though for letting a few walk
Posted By: Sq2 hunter
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 12:01 AM
Well at least yall had a good time. Getting out and hunting is what it's all about! Were they bugling?
Posted By: Sq2 hunter
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 12:17 AM
I shot this bull Monday evening at 580 yards. More pics to come. It's a pain on my computer.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 12:23 AM
Bammmmmmm
Well done. Even with one beam that's a stud 5x
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 12:26 AM
I made it to Lamar, only 1190 miles to go! A great time even though the mountain whipped me! Thanks to all of you!
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 02:16 AM
Bammmmmmm
Well done. Even with one beam that's a stud 5x
What he said!!
Posted By: mow
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 04:46 AM
Sq hunter...what cal. And size scope..great looking bull..congrats
Posted By: Sq2 hunter
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 01:40 PM
Thanks guys. I was using a 300 WM with 200 gr Nosler Accubond and a Leupold 20X Mark 4
Posted By: txtrophy85
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 01:59 PM
Thanks guys. I was using a 300 WM with 200 gr Nosler Accubond and a Leupold 20X Mark 4
why you using such a little gun with a light load?
you should really step up your equipment. get a better scope too. don't know how in the hell anyone sees anything with a 20X. Geesh
Posted By: Sq2 hunter
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 02:15 PM
Yeah I really need to step it up
Posted By: txtrophy85
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 02:37 PM
Yeah I really need to step it up
lol
great bull. congratulations
Posted By: Stickchunker
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 02:43 PM
Great Bull bud!!
Posted By: TXW
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 02:44 PM
Great Bull bud!!
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 02:53 PM
That's a good looking bull. Heck of a shot, too.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 02:54 PM
I made it to Lamar, only 1190 miles to go! A great time even though the mountain whipped me! Thanks to all of you!
You went places that guys half your age won't go. Safe travels.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 05:27 PM
First off, I want to thank Sneaky for organizing, leading, coordinating, guiding the less experienced, etc. for this 2nd season hunt!!! Well done sir!!!
It was a great group of fellow hunters that got along pretty good for never having met each other, with a common goal of hunting elk. Everyone took the joking in stride and helped each other where they could. Everyone at least got to see elk, even if not shootable at some point in time during the hunt. Everyone covered a lot of ground daily but Sneaky definitely covered the most searching for where the elk might be, sharing that information with others in camp and then took them where they would have the best opportunity with the information at hand. Having access to our satellite (thanks JSimms!!!) camp made the miserable weather much more bearable!!!!
Everyone brought great food with a very broad menu (steaks, fajitas, seafood Alfredo, brisket, sausage, tuna/sausage k-bobs, hobo dinners, axis steaks, camp cooked fried ham/potatoes, stuff jalapenos, chips, dips, candy bars, trail mix, etc.) to cover the evening meals. Occasionally we had breakfast cooked rolled into breakfast tacos. Got to hang out around the campfire, even in the rain to discuss the events of the day. Chief Joe wins the prize for best fire builder and proved that he could build one even using wet wood & pine needles (with enough gasoline).
I enjoyed getting to know Sneaky, Chief Joe, JSimms, Deep Sea and Cleric.
Someone asked what the average age was on this hunt, I added it all up and it came out to average age was 37 years old.
As for mileage covered, I can only go by the pedometer on my phone for the days I was beating the trail and my average was between 5.5-6 miles a day but day one was 13.26 which about kicked my tail. Needless to say after day one I lightened my pack to bare essentials; most of that weight was drinking water. I kept mostly on top of the mesa with only about 300-500 foot elevation deviation where I trekked. You can never over prepare with walking and stairs down at 500-800 feet above sea level for hiking at 9000-10000 feet. My new boots worked well and other than my lungs not getting enough oxygen at that altitude, my hips bothered me after putting in several miles (sooner later in the hunt).
It was definitely a blast of a trip, good food, good company and I especially enjoyed getting to spend a lot of father son time with ZK including the miles on the highway with one on one visiting. ZK did a great job on driving the entire trip, including hauling straight thru coming home about 15 hours with only 4 stops for fuel, food & potty breaks.
Thanks to all that made it a great hunting trip!!!
As I told my father in law back on my first elk/mule deer hunt in 1979 when he was totally disappointed coming home empty handed (no kills on game) “hey, we got to spend a lot of time out in God’s beautiful mountain country, we got our cake, just no icing!” … perspective!
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 05:35 PM
Great write up PMK!
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 05:48 PM
Great write up PMK!
X2
Glad everyone made it safe back home!!!
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 06:10 PM
Great write up PMK!
Yes. Thanks for doing that. I've been too tired and sore to write that much.
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 06:11 PM
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 06:42 PM
Super photos PMK!! helps explain the terrain much better. When Sneaky told me he was hunting a "bowl", I was thinking something much smaller (if the 1st pic is the "bowl")... Great looking habitat.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 06:46 PM
Here's the full story on that bull, for those interested.
A few of us had spent a couple days in a couple bowls I like to hunt. We had seen the nice six point on the far side, out of range, and I had spotted a couple unidentifieds in the other bowl, but no shots. I decided to scope out some new bowls, and a couple guys mentioned a trail that I had not been on before. I had always passed it up because it looked to easy. I went up that trail that morning, and about 7:30 is when a cow appeared on the trail ahead of me about 100 yards away, give or take. She was standing with her head up high staring at me. I got my rifle ready and we had a stare down. The rest of the herd, about a half dozen elk, came down the hill behind her and behind some brush. I could see the bull stick his head out to look at me. I looked at him through the scope, but I couldn't see if he was legal. They all turned down the trail we were on and headed away from me. I could tell, at that point, he was definitely legal. Probably a decent six, maybe a big five. The cows shot back uphill, and he went down the trail further. I gained some ground at that point for a better view, since there was a slight rise in between. He stopped and turned broadside about to head down into the bowl. When he stopped, I aimed. There was a handful of small saplings covering his shoulder, but they were pencil sized and looked to be right next to him. I saw no reason that a tough bullet like I was shooting couldn't get through, but it was a split second decision, and maybe the wrong one. I took the shot, and he headed downhill. I couldn't see or hear anything from him after that. I took my time, evaluating the scene and going down the trail where it bends around to glass back in there before bailing off in to look for him. It was very steep and fairly thick in there. When I went down where I thought he did, I found no evidence that I hit him at all. I went down and grid searched that whole side. Found nothing, so I started going up the other side where I thought he might have. On that side it was much thicker, but I somehow found blood on a trail over there. I have no idea how I stumbled into that. At that point, I went up and down that trail looking for tracks to determine which direction he was traveling. I found one going down, so I took up the trail. I followed it a good ways until it dried up. It was raining, also, so the blood was getting harder to find. At one point, I found an aspen leaf with red water in it. I was on my hands and knees looking for more blood, but couldn't find any. I took every trail I could find, down and across, and I came up empty. I found one trail going up into some really nasty terrain, so I crawled up that in one last effort. At 12:30, I was back at the main trail, empty handed. I just took it to the top and checked out all the bowls in the direction he was going. Then I went straight down to camp. The next morning we went up the same trail and Joe and I sat where I made the shot to survey the bowl and look for more evidence. I examined the scene thoroughly and determined that the saplings were not right next to the bull, but scattered in between him and I. I looked at all of them, but couldn't find anything conclusive. Magpies and crows had been staking out there territory on the backside of the bowl, but I had smelled something dead right there the morning before. I checked it out, anyway, and there were remains of an elk that had probably been killed first season. Mid morning, Deep Sea motioned me over to his spot. He was on a point that stuck out in the middle of the bowl. I went over, and he showed me a small patch of dark timber where he caught a glimpse of a bull. We sat there the rest of the day glassing and waiting, but he never showed. His cows were over there all day, though, and after sundown, he started bugling at them. I was convinced it was him, since he was holed up in the same direction he was headed, he wouldn't come out to get to his cows, and his bugle sounded pretty sad. PMK, ZK, Jsims, and I headed back up there the next morning. Again, before sunup, he was bugling at his cows that were all around him. We sat there mid day, when it was obvious that he wasn't coming out. I had the guys post up where they could get a clear shot if he tried to slip out before I got to him, and I went in. The weather kept rolling in and blocking their view, so I kept stopping and waiting. He either slipped out when the fog rolled in or went straight down through the thick quakies and around the point, but nobody ever saw him. The rest of the hunt, I spent time in the bowls in the direction he went, and I could hear him bugling most nights. He was still at it when I left, so he will most likely survive. I'll just have to catch up with him later if nobody else beats me to him. I learned a great deal from the experience, and I hope to never repeat it. It's not fun to lose an animal like that and wonder what he had to endure because of it. Other than that, and nobody filling a tag, it was a wonderful hunt. We put in a lot of miles in rugged, beautiful country, saw some game, and enjoyed our time. I also finally saw a bear up there. I think he was small enough I could have taken him by hand, but I did see a bear.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 06:48 PM
That last picture PMK posted looks like the bowl he was in, from the spot I shot him. That patch of pines on the far side is where he bedded down, and the point on the right is where we watched for him.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 06:50 PM
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 06:53 PM
You'll just have to turn your device for my pictures. I have no idea how to fix that.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 07:10 PM
Great read Sneaky, even though there is NO PARAGRAPHS, so had to come up for air once or twice LOL Just razing you man.
I still think you did all you could have done, if that bull was bugling, then you didst do much more than a bee sting. I'd guess a high shot, maybe even a high pass through which makes sense for the lack of blood. Takes some time for the blood to get the 30" down from a high shoulder, especially if it is just a muscle wound. Strong resilient animals, takes a good shot to drop them on the spot, in a rush like that when you are walking, many factors can effect the whole deal.
Shooting through "windows" is an almost guarantee up there in that type of terrain, just the way it is.
You took a shot and looked longer than most, I think that is what you and the bull deserved, good job brudda
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 07:21 PM
example of how the fog (sleet cloud) would roll in. These two pics are basically from the exact same point within 2-3 minutes of each other.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 07:27 PM
PMK, I have been hunting (once iirc during archery) semi clear and in the 50's, 30 minutes later I'm trying to get out of a blizzard. Mountains can change "almost" as fast as a woman's mind.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 07:31 PM
What a great trip! Again, a huge thanks to Sneaky for setting up this trip and getting it organized. It was great meeting all the guys that got to go and we had a blast even though no bulls were brought to camp.
Jsims, PMK and I stuck to the higher ground up on top the majority of the time. We did cover quite a bit of ground and the first day as PMK said, we covered a little over 13 miles and got pretty lost towards the end lol.
We found one meadow that overlooked a small pond that showed a little sign of elk and some bears, but no one had a bear tag. We hunted that meadow 2 days in a row and only saw some mule deer. Saw one 5x5 mulie that made me wish I had a tag. He wasn't a monster, but just a good buck. One morning while walking towards our meadow, we found some fresh bear tracks from earlier in the night.
This trip was a great experience and as Deep Sea said, it's a lot more than I was expecting, but we already have a good idea on how to go about everything for the next trip.
I had a blast getting some time with my dad, and a blast getting to know each one of yall!
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 07:50 PM
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 07:51 PM
The fog rolled into this bowl in about 2 minutes flat
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 07:55 PM
I took more pics with my wife's fancy camera, but it was mostly just landscape pictures of mountains and such. While down by the river one afternoon getting a game plan together, I spotted a bald eagle sitting in a tree looking for dinner in the river below. I grabbed the cam and took a couple of pics of it as well. I'll load those pics in the next couple of days.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 08:16 PM
Great read Sneaky, even though there is NO PARAGRAPHS, so had to come up for air once or twice LOL Just razing you man.
I still think you did all you could have done, if that bull was bugling, then you didst do much more than a bee sting. I'd guess a high shot, maybe even a high pass through which makes sense for the lack of blood. Takes some time for the blood to get the 30" down from a high shoulder, especially if it is just a muscle wound. Strong resilient animals, takes a good shot to drop them on the spot, in a rush like that when you are walking, many factors can effect the whole deal.
Shooting through "windows" is an almost guarantee up there in that type of terrain, just the way it is.
You took a shot and looked longer than most, I think that is what you and the bull deserved, good job brudda
Haha, I knew the no paragraph thing would be a pain, but I just didn't care. I'm in enough pain right now to spread it around a little.
If I could have thought of anything else or better to get that bull, I would have. A smarter hunter than me could have done it, but not for more effort.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 08:16 PM
Oh yeah. The bald eagle on the river. That's always a neat sight. We could see him looking into the water for fish.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 08:24 PM
Great read Sneaky, even though there is NO PARAGRAPHS, so had to come up for air once or twice LOL Just razing you man.
I still think you did all you could have done, if that bull was bugling, then you didst do much more than a bee sting. I'd guess a high shot, maybe even a high pass through which makes sense for the lack of blood. Takes some time for the blood to get the 30" down from a high shoulder, especially if it is just a muscle wound. Strong resilient animals, takes a good shot to drop them on the spot, in a rush like that when you are walking, many factors can effect the whole deal.
Shooting through "windows" is an almost guarantee up there in that type of terrain, just the way it is.
You took a shot and looked longer than most, I think that is what you and the bull deserved, good job brudda
Haha, I knew the no paragraph thing would be a pain, but I just didn't care. I'm in enough pain right now to spread it around a little.
If I could have thought of anything else or better to get that bull, I would have. A smarter hunter than me could have done it, but not for more effort.
Selling yourself short, don't know what
another" hunter could have done, you where there while we where all on the couch, so....
BTW, Why are you in pain? Just and elk hunt
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 08:25 PM
Here's that eagle. I didn't get the best of pics of it before he flew off.
I forgot about the turkeys we saw.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 08:30 PM
More great photos ZK
Tourist, geeeez
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 08:32 PM
Lol. He was a little far off for pics with my phone. We were actually in the truck at that particular time with the eagle. I figured I might as well get out the big lense and use it
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 08:37 PM
Hey, nothing against having a great camera, best pics you can get any day over a phone, just probably not as convenient.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 08:39 PM
It lived in the truck he whole trip. After that first day at 13 miles, we were taking as much out of our packs as we could.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 08:43 PM
Great read Sneaky, even though there is NO PARAGRAPHS, so had to come up for air once or twice LOL Just razing you man.
I still think you did all you could have done, if that bull was bugling, then you didst do much more than a bee sting. I'd guess a high shot, maybe even a high pass through which makes sense for the lack of blood. Takes some time for the blood to get the 30" down from a high shoulder, especially if it is just a muscle wound. Strong resilient animals, takes a good shot to drop them on the spot, in a rush like that when you are walking, many factors can effect the whole deal.
Shooting through "windows" is an almost guarantee up there in that type of terrain, just the way it is.
You took a shot and looked longer than most, I think that is what you and the bull deserved, good job brudda
Haha, I knew the no paragraph thing would be a pain, but I just didn't care. I'm in enough pain right now to spread it around a little.
If I could have thought of anything else or better to get that bull, I would have. A smarter hunter than me could have done it, but not for more effort.
Selling yourself short, don't know what
another" hunter could have done, you where there while we where all on the couch, so....
BTW, Why are you in pain? Just and elk hunt
Yeah, just an elk hunt. Wouldn't be near as bad if I had the sense to stick to the trails. I just kept wondering what was in those bowls.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 08:47 PM
It lived in the truck he whole trip. After that first day at 13 miles, we were taking as much out of our packs as we could.
Tried tell'n y'all that, somethings you just have to learn
More importantly overall though, any land prospects for PMK to purchase???
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 08:50 PM
Great read Sneaky, even though there is NO PARAGRAPHS, so had to come up for air once or twice LOL Just razing you man.
I still think you did all you could have done, if that bull was bugling, then you didst do much more than a bee sting. I'd guess a high shot, maybe even a high pass through which makes sense for the lack of blood. Takes some time for the blood to get the 30" down from a high shoulder, especially if it is just a muscle wound. Strong resilient animals, takes a good shot to drop them on the spot, in a rush like that when you are walking, many factors can effect the whole deal.
Shooting through "windows" is an almost guarantee up there in that type of terrain, just the way it is.
You took a shot and looked longer than most, I think that is what you and the bull deserved, good job brudda
Haha, I knew the no paragraph thing would be a pain, but I just didn't care. I'm in enough pain right now to spread it around a little.
If I could have thought of anything else or better to get that bull, I would have. A smarter hunter than me could have done it, but not for more effort.
Selling yourself short, don't know what
another" hunter could have done, you where there while we where all on the couch, so....
BTW, Why are you in pain? Just and elk hunt
Yeah, just an elk hunt. Wouldn't be near as bad if I had the sense to stick to the trails. I just kept wondering what was in those bowls.
Well let
s see what would be in those bowls.....More trees, rocks, less trails..LOL I know what you mean, never know when you top a hill and 3-400 elk will be looking at you face to face.
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 08:53 PM
It lived in the truck he whole trip. After that first day at 13 miles, we were taking as much out of our packs as we could.
Tried tell'n y'all that, somethings you just have to learn
More importantly overall though, any land prospects for PMK to purchase???
Not yet...
He did say he fell in love with the Dolores area, so who knows? Hey may end up going up sometime over the summer with my mom and find a little vacation get away place
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 08:57 PM
There were several places for sale. I don't know what they're waiting for.
There was an inn for sale. They didn't even want a full million for it. Seemed like a steal to me, and lots of room for hunters.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 09:07 PM
sneaky so you going to buy the inn with your wife??
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 09:16 PM
If they would take her, I'd make that trade.
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 09:25 PM
So no kills?
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 09:28 PM
There were several places for sale. I don't know what they're waiting for.
There was an inn for sale. They didn't even want a full million for it. Seemed like a steal to me, and lots of room for hunters.
Oh hell, ZK could swing that!
Posted By: ZK-315
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 09:42 PM
$$$
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 10:00 PM
No kills. I slowed one down, but not enough to catch him.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 10:01 PM
If my wife will quit messing with the babies, I'll get her to load some more pictures from my GPS.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 10:05 PM
No kills. I slowed one down, but not enough to catch him.
Sneaky, that makes me feel bad, I had a "care package" ready to mail to you up there, but didn't have a spot UPS would deliver
Care package had a pair of running shoes and a salt shaker......
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 10:09 PM
I almost needed it.
We almost had a kill. Cleric came real close to killing himself in one of those bowls. I told him to take the trail down and not to mess with that bowl at night. You know how us kids are. Can't pass up a good adventure. One ruined pair of britches later, and he knows better, now.
Posted By: Theringworm
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 10:13 PM
I know that 5th pic very well. Saw a young bull at the bottom of that opening last year. Great pics.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 10:16 PM
I almost needed it.
We almost had a kill. Cleric came real close to killing himself in one of those bowls. I told him to take the trail down and not to mess with that bowl at night. You know how us kids are. Can't pass up a good adventure. One ruined pair of britches later, and he knows better, now.
Yes sir, sometimes words of wisdom wont be heard LOL No ambulances or careflight called, so good trip though.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 10:22 PM
It was good for him and great for us. We were rolling when he came out of there and into camp.
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 10:26 PM
Just because y'all are Wimps and prefer trails doesn't mean you should make fun of real men who go there own way.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 10:26 PM
I guess you need to add "sewing kit" on next years list LOL
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 10:28 PM
My pants were designed to look like that. They are called vents...
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 10:29 PM
I almost needed it.
We almost had a kill. Cleric came real close to killing himself in one of those bowls. I told him to take the trail down and not to mess with that bowl at night. You know how us kids are. Can't pass up a good adventure. One ruined pair of britches later, and he knows better, now.
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 10:32 PM
Man. That's a lot of miles and hours and no kill.
Way to be sporty. I love it!
One day, dunno when (probably after I have enough gas money/gear and am 18), I'll do this hunt with y'all. Sounds like a blast, even if no kills and I didn't read the whole thread
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 10:50 PM
Man. That's a lot of miles and hours and no kill.
Way to be sporty. I love it!
One day, dunno when (probably after I have enough gas money/gear and am 18), I'll do this hunt with y'all. Sounds like a blast, even if no kills and I didn't read the whole thread
It's okay. I didn't read it all, either.
Start getting in shape now. By then, you'll almost be ready, and that's close enough.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 10:51 PM
My pants were designed to look like that. They are called vents...
They looked pretty cool.
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 10:54 PM
Man. That's a lot of miles and hours and no kill.
Way to be sporty. I love it!
One day, dunno when (probably after I have enough gas money/gear and am 18), I'll do this hunt with y'all. Sounds like a blast, even if no kills and I didn't read the whole thread
It's okay. I didn't read it all, either.
Start getting in shape now. By then, you'll almost be ready, and that's close enough.
In shape? That I am working on, but not towards hunting. I can pretty much do anything hunting related as is. Then again, I haven't elk hunted for real. So maybe you're right.
Thanks anyway.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 10:58 PM
I'm sure you can handle yourself just fine. Better than most, anyway. It's just hard to imagine until you do it, especially the places we go. Nothing you can do prepares you for the altitude. That's the biggest kicker. Throw in some nasty, steep country, and it's like nothing else I know. But you're young and active. Do it as soon as you can.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 11:02 PM
These are pictures of the best blood I found. I'll see what y'all think. My first thought was liver, but he wouldn't have lived that long, so I have no idea.
Posted By: chital_shikari
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 11:02 PM
I'm sure you can handle yourself just fine. Better than most, anyway. It's just hard to imagine until you do it, especially the places we go. Nothing you can do prepares you for the altitude. That's the biggest kicker. Throw in some nasty, steep country, and it's like nothing else I know. But you're young and active. Do it as soon as you can.
Thanks for the heads up.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 11:04 PM
Posted By: Cleric
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 11:06 PM
My pants were designed to look like that. They are called vents...
They looked pretty cool.
It's called fashion...
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 11:07 PM
Posted By: txtrophy85
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 11:09 PM
I'm sure you can handle yourself just fine. Better than most, anyway. It's just hard to imagine until you do it, especially the places we go. Nothing you can do prepares you for the altitude. That's the biggest kicker. Throw in some nasty, steep country, and it's like nothing else I know. But you're young and active. Do it as soon as you can.
Altitude never affected me. Some guys get sick as heck
Imo most people pysch themselves up over it too much.
It's not that hard. Until you kill something. Then it sucks.
But the actual hunting is not terribly bad
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/27/15 11:10 PM
It doesn't usually bother me, but the lack of oxygen sure slows you down.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/28/15 01:08 AM
Muscle. Liver blood is almost Blk. I got to track liver blood for 800 yards this year.
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/28/15 01:17 AM
That's most likely right, considering. Hopefully he recovers enough to hook back up with his cows.
Elk are tough SOBs. That's all there is to it.
Posted By: ChrisB
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/28/15 01:28 AM
Looks like muscle blood to me also. Probably just a flesh wound. Chics dig scars so he will be ok. Hope to join you guys up there some day.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/28/15 01:54 AM
Posted By: PMK
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/28/15 04:13 PM
My pants were designed to look like that. They are called vents...
They looked pretty cool.
It's called fashion...
ummmm okay ...
noisy fashion if it actually fits into the fashion category
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/28/15 05:11 PM
My pants were designed to look like that. They are called vents...
They looked pretty cool.
It's called fashion...
ummmm okay ...
noisy fashion if it actually fits into the fashion category
Claric could probably make a fortune selling them in Cali though
I watched a news segment in the 90's, I think it was "shotgun jeans"? They actually took new jeans out and blew holes in them, sold them for like $85 a pair!!! couldnt keep'm stocked either, just nuts.
Posted By: Chief Joe
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/29/15 12:22 AM
First off, I want to thank Sneaky for organizing, leading, coordinating, guiding the less experienced, etc. for this 2nd season hunt!!! Well done sir!!!
I enjoyed getting to know Sneaky, Chief Joe, JSimms, Deep Sea and Cleric.
Someone asked what the average age was on this hunt, I added it all up and it came out to average age was 37 years old.
Thanks to all that made it a great hunting trip!!!
Whew, I just got home, logging 3520 miles round trip. I echo PMK's remarks. I know my 30+ years helped to raise that average! It was an amazing time! Thanks Jared! Thanks to all...
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/29/15 01:48 AM
It was a pleasure hunting with you, Joe. Glad you made it back okay.
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/29/15 01:51 AM
That's most likely right, considering. Hopefully he recovers enough to hook back up with his cows.
Buddy has had clients kill bulls with antlers points stuck in their shoulder. He is still alive. I also shot an elk through the brisket once....had blood for well over two miles... Watched him two days later pushing cows.... Then he got missed in rifle season... Some Bulls just have 9 lives
Posted By: Sneaky
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/29/15 02:11 AM
He's down to 8, now.
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/29/15 02:12 AM
That's most likely right, considering. Hopefully he recovers enough to hook back up with his cows.
Buddy has had clients kill bulls with antlers points stuck in their shoulder. He is still alive. I also shot an elk through the brisket once....had blood for well over two miles... Watched him two days later pushing cows.... Then he got missed in rifle season... Some Bulls just have 9 lives
Wow, those clients had to get close to put antlers in the bulls shoulder!!
Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/29/15 02:27 AM
That's most likely right, considering. Hopefully he recovers enough to hook back up with his cows.
Buddy has had clients kill bulls
that had antlers points stuck in their shoulder. He is still alive. I also shot an elk through the brisket once....had blood for well over two miles... Watched him two days later pushing cows.... Then he got missed in rifle season... Some Bulls just have 9 lives
Wow, those clients had to get close to put antlers in the bulls shoulder!!
Lol. I forgot to take lunch today if that helps my grammar cause.... Fixed
Posted By: Western
Re: 2015 CO group elk hunt. - 10/29/15 02:33 AM
That's most likely right, considering. Hopefully he recovers enough to hook back up with his cows.
Buddy has had clients kill bulls
that had antlers points stuck in their shoulder. He is still alive. I also shot an elk through the brisket once....had blood for well over two miles... Watched him two days later pushing cows.... Then he got missed in rifle season... Some Bulls just have 9 lives
Wow, those clients had to get close to put antlers in the bulls shoulder!!
Lol. I forgot to take lunch today if that helps my grammar cause.... Fixed
I knew what you where saying, I was just hoping that maybe you had figured out a new, better way to get one. Guess I will stick to my "routine"
