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Remington or Winchester

Posted By: Jon jon

Remington or Winchester - 12/22/11 04:06 PM

Your personal opinions which brand is better?

Posted By: MO

Re: Remington or Winchester - 12/22/11 04:16 PM

Put me down for Remington ( lots of military and police
departments agree) If were are talking bolt action
rifles.

MO

Posted By: Drop Tine

Re: Remington or Winchester - 12/22/11 04:19 PM

Remmy

Posted By: Tloves2hunt

Re: Remington or Winchester - 12/22/11 04:27 PM

Remington Shotgun Shells, Rifle Cartridges and Rifles. I recieved a Remington 1100 20 Gauge for Christmas back in 1980. I shot a lot of Quail and Dove with that Shotgun back in the day.

Posted By: passthru

Re: Remington or Winchester - 12/22/11 04:29 PM

Pre '64 Winchester or otherwise Remington.

Posted By: BOBO the Clown

Re: Remington or Winchester - 12/22/11 04:36 PM

Rifles-Remington, New Winchester

Shotgun- Beretta, browning, benelli-pick one

rifle Ammo-Barnes, nosler, weatherby(all three are vert consistent)

Shotgun ammo- upland/ target/dove -forcci

Shotgun waterfowl-remington hypersonic(only Remington ammo I buy, best waterfowl)

Posted By: dkershen

Re: Remington or Winchester - 12/22/11 04:40 PM

What category?

Posted By: Rebel.

Re: Remington or Winchester - 12/22/11 04:43 PM

If I had to choose for a rifle, it would be Remington. If I had to choose for a new shotgun, it would be the SX3 over any of big green's new shotguns.

Posted By: BOBO the Clown

Re: Remington or Winchester - 12/22/11 04:44 PM

Oops- not what you asked

ammo neither ect remi waterfowl...hypersonic

Guns--- toss up

Offself trigger-Winchester

Am a fan of the featherlight ss, for a short barrel gun. But love the options for remi

Posted By: kmon11

Re: Remington or Winchester - 12/22/11 04:46 PM

The new Winchester made by FN are good, put those above all but perhaps the top Remingtons.

Shotgund neither are in the running IMO for new guns, Like Bobo said take your pick Beretta, Benelli then Browning

Rifle ammo Nosler, Norma, Barnes, Federal Premium

Shotgun upland still hard to best Winchester target loads

Waterfowl and turkey Renington HD

thise IMO

Posted By: ZombieGun

Re: Remington or Winchester - 12/22/11 04:46 PM

Remmy 700's. I think the 770's and 710's are junk. Nothing against Winchester, but I'm gonna stick with what works.

Posted By: Jon jon

Re: Remington or Winchester - 12/22/11 05:16 PM

Heard Winchester came out with a semi duck gun to compete with benelli don't no if its any good

Posted By: stxranchman

Re: Remington or Winchester - 12/22/11 05:17 PM

Remington

Posted By: Brother in-law

Re: Remington or Winchester - 12/22/11 05:18 PM

Rem 700

Posted By: copperhead

Re: Remington or Winchester - 12/22/11 05:19 PM

Remington

Posted By: Lone Ranger

Re: Remington or Winchester - 12/22/11 05:20 PM

Winchester Model 70 all the way!! I have been shooting Model 70's since the early 60's. Just make sure it is a model with control round feed.

I prefer the 3 position safety on the Model 70 and I especially like the Featherweight Model. I have 10 in different calibers and all are extremely accurate!!

Posted By: vanguard

Re: Remington or Winchester - 12/22/11 07:05 PM

remingtons junk you couldnt give me one to use as an anchor

Posted By: BOBO the Clown

Re: Remington or Winchester - 12/22/11 07:31 PM

Originally Posted By: vanguard
remingtons junk you couldnt give me one to use as an anchor


Yelp they sure do sux .... Since I have a remi sps that the only accuracy improvements are it being pillar bedded and it will shoot < .5 with three different factory loads and < moa with 6 factory loads all day and even 25 shots if you want to spend $90 bucks trying to show off

Posted By: txtrophy85

Re: Remington or Winchester - 12/22/11 07:32 PM

remington and winchester are both good guns.

if i had to pick a bolt gun, winchester would win, but they are both great.

killed my first deer with a model 70.

Posted By: txtrophy85

Re: Remington or Winchester - 12/22/11 07:33 PM

Originally Posted By: vanguard
remingtons junk you couldnt give me one to use as an anchor


yeah your right.

NEF handi-rifles are WAY better

Posted By: GriffGruff78

Re: Remington or Winchester - 12/22/11 07:56 PM

Between Winchester and Remington I would have to go with the 700 simply because everyone in the world who sells stocks, triggers, rails, bolts, barrels or other parts and accessories for bolt rifles sells something for the Remington 700 in the exact color you're looking for and you will not have to jump through hoops to get a gunsmith to put special thread timing on whatever it is that you're buying before it will mate up with your rifle.

Not that there isn't a thriving aftermarket for the Winchesters, but it isn't the same.

Otherwise, I would rather build a rifle around an old L61R action. Or just buy a Weatherby. That new X-mark trigger isn't my favorite at all.


As far as accuracy is concerned, just about any modern production rifle is going to spit bullets far straighter than greater than 95% of shooters can hold. Now that accurate, affordable chronographs and internet connections are ubiquitous, if a commercial load is inconsistent it will get bashed on the internet as junk and sales may suffer. In response, commercial ammunition generally does what it says it will do on the box. In other words, you can squeeze a pretty tight group out of just about any new rifle without modifying it and feeding it with Corelokt or Federal or Hornady. You chances of getting a great shooter are about the same with Ruger, Winchester, Remington, Savage, STEVENS, Howa, Weatherby, etc. etc. I wouldn't get too hung up on your rifle maker's reputation for printing 1/4" groups at 100 yards - the first one is all that really matters anyway. The rifle that fits your needs best (and your budget) is the right one. The rest is just "FORD-CHEVY".

Posted By: vanguard

Re: Remington or Winchester - 12/22/11 08:53 PM

Originally Posted By: txtrophy85
Originally Posted By: vanguard
remingtons junk you couldnt give me one to use as an anchor


yeah your right.

NEF handi-rifles are WAY better


yet to see a factory rem outshot my POS h&r

Posted By: BOBO the Clown

Re: Remington or Winchester - 12/22/11 09:10 PM

Originally Posted By: vanguard
Originally Posted By: txtrophy85
Originally Posted By: vanguard
remingtons junk you couldnt give me one to use as an anchor


yeah your right.

NEF handi-rifles are WAY better


yet to see a factory rem outshot my POS h&r


I'll take that bet...which 500 yard range you want to play at

Posted By: BOBO the Clown

Re: Remington or Winchester - 12/22/11 09:13 PM

Fire on the mountain run boys run...devils in the house of the rising sunnnnn

Posted By: vanguard

Re: Remington or Winchester - 12/22/11 09:19 PM

500 yds hehehe my hornet would look like a mortar




Posted By: vanguard

Re: Remington or Winchester - 12/22/11 09:24 PM

i really am glad you guys have luck with rem, around here its been like 10 straight that shot like crap

Posted By: BOBO the Clown

Re: Remington or Winchester - 12/22/11 09:35 PM

Originally Posted By: vanguard
500 yds hehehe my hornet would look like a mortar




Lol, figured you caught that.

Posted By: BOBO the Clown

Re: Remington or Winchester - 12/22/11 09:42 PM

Originally Posted By: vanguard
i really am glad you guys have luck with rem, around here its been like 10 straight that shot like crap


Every mfg has their issues, why you have people like hill country and.mcworther.

Not really a bad rifle out there if you compare todays rifles to the ones 20-30 years ago

Posted By: txtrophy85

Re: Remington or Winchester - 12/22/11 11:37 PM

my handi rifle shot great, but it handled like a 2x4

Posted By: cb66

Re: Remington or Winchester - 12/23/11 12:30 AM

Remington 700...best platform to build your rifle.

CB

Posted By: vanguard

Re: Remington or Winchester - 12/23/11 01:06 AM


I agree but some consistently suck, H&R , remington, cva, thompson center are ones off the top my head


Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Every mfg has their issues, why you have people like hill country and.mcworther.



Posted By: BOBO the Clown

Re: Remington or Winchester - 12/23/11 01:17 AM

Humm never had a problem with tc and Remington but to each there own

Posted By: dee

Re: Remington or Winchester - 12/23/11 01:22 AM

For rifle I'd take the new FN made Winchesters. As far as shotguns go I'd put a feild grade 101 over a Browning, the new 101's are made in the FN plant in Belgium. The old 101's are great as well since they were made at the same plant in Japan.

Posted By: Csddarden

Re: Remington or Winchester - 12/23/11 01:33 AM

I own both a 700 and a 70 and just about the only time my 700 comes out of the safe is when I let my dad or another family member use it.

Posted By: SRPI

Re: Remington or Winchester - 12/23/11 01:36 AM

Originally Posted By: passthru
Pre '64 Winchester or otherwise Remington.


x2

Posted By: jmc82

Re: Remington or Winchester - 12/23/11 01:38 AM

I prefer black guns.

Posted By: BOBO the Clown

Re: Remington or Winchester - 12/23/11 01:40 AM

Originally Posted By: jmc82
I prefer black guns.


Thank for such a value add...

Posted By: stxranchman

Re: Remington or Winchester - 12/23/11 01:42 AM

popcorn

Posted By: tth_40

Re: Remington or Winchester - 12/23/11 01:46 AM

Remington. Haven't ever had one that either didnt shoot well or be made to shoot well with minimal investment..and I've had a bunch.

Posted By: jeffscout

Re: Remington or Winchester - 12/23/11 01:51 AM

Originally Posted By: jmc82
I prefer black guns.


So I guess that means your choice between Remington and Winchester is Remington with their R-15 platform. Their parent company also owns Bushmaster and DPMS...

Posted By: jeffscout

Re: Remington or Winchester - 12/23/11 01:55 AM

My vote is Remington, but I have zero experience shooting Winchester shotguns. I own two and am currently in a heated love affair with my Versa Max, and also have an 1100 Premier Sporting in 20ga. The Versa Max is awesome and has moved my Benelli Super Black Eagle to the back of the safe.

Posted By: jmc82

Re: Remington or Winchester - 12/23/11 03:46 AM

Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Originally Posted By: jmc82
I prefer black guns.


Thank for such a value add...

You're very welcome sir. I see no reason to own a traditional rifle when my ARs accomplish everything and more.

Posted By: jmc82

Re: Remington or Winchester - 12/23/11 03:47 AM

Originally Posted By: jeffscout
Originally Posted By: jmc82
I prefer black guns.


So I guess that means your choice between Remington and Winchester is Remington with their R-15 platform. Their parent company also owns Bushmaster and DPMS...

No. I actually hate my Bushmaster with a passion. BIggest POS I've ever owned.

Posted By: krazyh0rse

Re: Remington or Winchester - 12/23/11 04:01 AM

most of my guns are remingtons, but always wanted a pre 64 mod 70

Posted By: vanguard

Re: Remington or Winchester - 12/23/11 04:17 AM

dunno why anyone wants a pre 64 they werent very accurate, the latter were more accurate but not as well made.
the new fn are the best

Posted By: WyoHunter

Re: Remington or Winchester - 12/23/11 06:27 AM

I own both and like both. Can't go wrong with either one.

Posted By: NDN98

Re: Remington or Winchester - 12/23/11 07:54 AM

Browning bolt

Posted By: dee

Re: Remington or Winchester - 12/23/11 12:41 PM

[quote=vanguard]dunno why anyone wants a pre 64 they werent very accurate, the latter were more accurate but not as well made.
the new fn are the best [/quote.

They were plenty accurate if the screw at the end of the stock is removed.

Posted By: Triplesnake

Re: Remington or Winchester - 12/26/11 02:43 AM

I've always thought the actions on Winchesters were smoother, hence my collection of Model 70s. However, my son has had no problem collecting meat with his Remington .25-06.

Posted By: Stoney

Re: Remington or Winchester - 12/26/11 03:16 AM

If it's rifles I prefer Winchesters, only because I like to pull the trigger on my own to have it go off. Shotguns, I would go SX3 over the heavier 11 based Rems. In the end...Winchester

Posted By: shark 25-06

Re: Remington or Winchester - 12/26/11 04:09 AM

Originally Posted By: craigr
If it's rifles I prefer Winchesters, only because I like to pull the trigger on my own to have it go off. Shotguns, I would go SX3 over the heavier 11 based Rems. In the end...Winchester


i was wondering how long it would take for this to be mentioned.

ruger is the way to go for rifles

Posted By: CRay23

Re: Remington or Winchester - 12/26/11 05:33 AM

Originally Posted By: shark 25-06
Originally Posted By: craigr
If it's rifles I prefer Winchesters, only because I like to pull the trigger on my own to have it go off. Shotguns, I would go SX3 over the heavier 11 based Rems. In the end...Winchester


i was wondering how long it would take for this to be mentioned.

ruger is the way to go for rifles


I have a Rem 700 and I have seen stories about them going off. Is there a particular year or period of MFG that has been identified?

Posted By: mike a

Re: Remington or Winchester - 12/26/11 05:41 AM

I like to buy american and keep my money puting americans to work. If I buy a new gun I will try to keep one of my fellow americans in a job. Thats why I don't buy Taurus, Cz, and the other imported guns. They may not be the best on the market, but I feel better buying them. I own some foreign made guns, and I am sure I will own more, but if I can I will buy a Remmy, ruger, or Smith.

Posted By: HWY_MAN

Re: Remington or Winchester - 12/27/11 12:01 PM

My choice would be Remington, Winchest makes a fine action but like Ruger they can't seem to get it together when it comes to a decent trigger.

Posted By: USMCatfish

Re: Remington or Winchester - 12/27/11 12:32 PM

I am a Remington 700 kinda of guy...But my wifes Ruger M77 .243 shoots just as good as any of them.

Posted By: txtrophy85

Re: Remington or Winchester - 12/27/11 01:38 PM

Originally Posted By: HWY_MAN
My choice would be Remington, Winchest makes a fine action but like Ruger they can't seem to get it together when it comes to a decent trigger.


you just have to realize if you buy a ruger your gonna have to ante up and put a new trigger on it, or at least get it worked on.

when you buy a ruger you are buying for the reliable action, not for a slick trigger.

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