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I have a 2014, F 250 gas. 4 wd truck that has been in the shop for a week. Dealer I might add. It needs an ECM electronic control module which the dealer says they cannot find. Local independent shops say this needs t be a dealer repair. Auto parts store said they cannot get the part. Looks like I may have to pick up tomorrow and wait about 10 days to get into another dealer. What says the forum?

Thanks!

Can’t help, wish you luck.

While you may find a physical ecm, it's usually the "flash" procedure that's dealer specific. Usually a laptop or high end scanner and some expensive software involved. If you can find a dealer that will flash a used ecm maybe try eBay?

https://www.google.com/search?q=201...IBgGQBgU&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-serp

TCM3 I saw these earlier when checking the internet. Also saw some that were much more in Dollars. Still trying to learn what I can.

Thanks

Junkyard. Make sure the numbers match. At least it used to be that easy.

Stealerships just want to change parts now days, take your money and send you out the door. Finding people who really know how to fix things is a challenge. I'd start by joining a forum or two dedicated to your year range of truck and ask questions there. Like this site, there's always people out there wanting to help a brotha out.

Sent you a PM

Same with GM...especially for Allison TCM's. We waited nine months for one. Last one (common problem in the 20-teens) we sent off to be re-manufactured and it was back in less than three weeks. Our F*** store also had similar issues. Not sure what they're solution was but if you'd like me to check with that service manager I will. Send a PM if needed.

Thanks for the offer, Gas Guzzler. Looks like Texas Lefty has put me on to a good source. Just can't believe how the dealership has handled this, Said they could get from salvage but never did. Failed to return phone calls etc.

Failing to return phone calls is a human problem and bad business. Not being able to get the part is a F*** problem outside of the dealer. Not all modules are able to be salvaged. GM started latching VINs over a decade ago.

[quote=HandyMan91 . . . If you can find a dealer that will flash a used ecm maybe try eBay?[/quote]


Unless something has changed, the processor has to be in the vehicle when the programming is done.
If it's a PATS key system, all keys will have to be programmed as well including any remote transmitters

Processors are also very vehicle specific. Lots more than just the year and model involved

Wasn't that way until these investment groups started buying up the new car dealers.
Used to be that you had to be the top drawer to work in the service end of a dealership.
The owners these days look at car sales and could really care less once you roll out the
door with the papers signed. If it was allowed, most dealers wouldn't even have any
service facilities at all.

This is 100% true. James Wood said so directly to my Dad's face several years before he passed. I never worked for him myself. People that think the term "stealership" is funny generally gained all their knowledge(?) of the industry off the internet. I have been in the business over 30 years and worked at only three locations (but for 8 owners) and they were all family owned. I would never work for a corporately owned dealer (although Huffines and Sewell are close and are in my work history).

Started out in either 1980 or 1981
Stayed for 4+ decades
Some of the fellow employees I've known had been in for decades.
At least one man I worked with had only had the one job at the
one dealer all his life. Even the salesmen I knew had worked at their
one job for years. Dealership customers were multi generational.
Grandpa had bought his 1st vehicle, then the son, then the grandson. . .
The first buyout/ mass layoff was an education and a shock to my
sensibilities. I was raised up and trained in the old school way of
satisfied customers are the best advertisement and can't be bought
at any price.
Not true anymore. All the old experienced qualified dealer employees
I've known for decades have either died or retired or completely
gotten out of the automotive industry. Many of the vendors I've
dealt with are gone as well. It would amaze many today to be
able to listen to some of the old field engineers that came to the
dealers, and see how knowledgable and inclined they were.
All I knew wear pushed out the door.
I have seen other industries not related to the automotive industry
go swirling down the toilet as well. Go try to buy stuff for guns
like we did a decade or two ago. You might as well log on to
the confuser and get your card ready. Used to be a half a dozen
thriving gun shops here close within a 5-10 minute drive.

Oh well. . . Can't fix it

Berkshire Hathaway bought out the last two i worked at
( if you know who they are, and who owns it)

I never realized how many dealers they bought out

You're a decade ahead of me. Same location since the day before 9-11.

I used to tell a joke when it was still funny to me that
the people making the money were the people that
made the banners " UNDER NEW MANAGEMENT "
and " UNDER NEW OWNERSHIP "
I don't know if any of them even put a permanent set
of letters on the building anymore. I think they just
think up a trendy yuppie name like " OLD WEST FORD"
or " CLEAR WATER CHEVROLET/ BUICK/NISSAN/
VOLVO/ KIA "

A follow up from my needing a Electronic Control Module (ECM) for my 2014 Ford F-250. After 6 weeks I have the truck back. The dealer got one ECM from a salvage dealer but could not use it as it appeared to have been in a accident. The dealer did not find one after weeks, so I started looking on the internet and found a source in New York. After a collaboration between the dealer and my source they decided to ship to me and I paid for the part, EXPENSIVE. After I received it, i took to the dealer and it was installed in a short time. My source had already programmed the vin number and some other Information. I have approached the source on returning my defective ECM to them. No luck they want to deal with dealer in as much as giving them a credit of approximately $200. against future purchases. Remember i paid for the part not the dealer. At least I have the truck back and nobody is getting my old ECM back for free..

New tech works good until it doesn't.

Stole that line from someone here.

Good to hear she's up and running again.

If you can find one at a pick n pull I can program it I believe but you will have to buy an HP Tuner credit that gets tied to you VIN. Does your truck run at all? I'll need your ecu to be functioning well enough for me to suck the data out of it. If it is flatlined the dealer or some one who can do what the dealer can do will have to program the new ecu.

blkt2 have already found another ECM. Thanks

All the smart-A's that call qualified and trained franchise technicians part of the "stealership" world can suck it. We don't make the rules any more than you made Sleepy J Prez. So unless you can do what we do (under duress many times and you CAN'T), don't respond without knowledge.

VIN number is redundant and incorrect but so is ATM machine and people still say it. Dealer parts and service guys ask for your VIN number and bankers ask you questions about the ATM machine.

Like I mentioned, certain Allison TCM's cores are bringing $3K and the newest GM full size SUV and truck OnStar modules are a 90+ day wait. Some F*** TCMs and ECMs are a year.

Thanks Joe.