$20 Minimum wage

I'm not good at math but I think it comes out to $800 per week. Times have changed but I started for around that much a month. Thoughts?

Minimum wage is $7.25

A cliché of the left.

its not gonna solve anything bumping it up to $20 because inflation will make $20/hr the new $7.25.


Maybe I'm thinking the wrong way about this, but imo entry level jobs are exactly that...entry level. Not meant to be a career.

I read an article awhile back about guy who had worked as a busser at waffle house for 35 years and his son had worked there like 15. The piece was semi-spun around how little he was paid but in his tenure he never advanced.....and was quoted as saying " well, I never wanted to do anything different"


So really, whose fault is it? is the employer supposed to just hand him cash strictly on tenure for a entry level job?

But with our failed educational system (from all the cockamamie ideas), those jobs have to be careers. That's why they're so darn militant about it. "I didn't apply myself, so you owe me."

His lack of ambition must, somehow, be his employer’s problem.

Price floors create surpluses.

Change my mind.

That is a really stupid thing to post.

Change my mind.

Let me get this straight...….
You think, our education system, has been a success...… ?

$10 min wage is enough for non educated millennials who refuse to go to college

Start taxing 20% on all tip money as well btw

Ban fortnite and call of duty

I paid enough college and multiple masters to even touch that triple min proposed wage

Bump sales tax to 12.5% , reduce prop tax to 1%

Beaver/Pence 2020- 2024 and 2028

#nomorefreehandouts

Your $800 a month in the 50s or 60s or whatever went a lot farther than $800 a month would today, but I in no way support a $15 or $20 minimum wage. I don’t even support a government-mandated minimum wage anyway, for several reasons.

But, here is all that needs to be said about this issue:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...ocialist-reality/?utm_term=.bd8bd76eb1a8

Texas is the best place in USA to have very good jobs, if not the World

All the lil untravelled clueless kids whining here in Texas...get the f out

If you cant make it in Texas and biatch like a lil girl, I have no hope for you

Texas has been booming since 2009 big time, and we all know it, but some lazy bumps dont

Thoughts....Wish my first job had paid $800 a month. In 1973 my third job paid me $2.00 per hour machining helicopter parts. 60 hours weeks/ night shift. I did get a .06 bonus for night shift.. My first two jobs paid even less. At the time I thought that was pretty good considering my Dad worked for .50 an hour in the early 60's.

You're not worth the effort. Get back on your meds.

The dollar is worth less by 2-3% a year, I think its more like 4% and I am banking 5

Everything is getting so expensive, me looking for a 10% return, so far so good, averaging 11.8% the last 12 years

Nothing in his post said anything about education being a success.

Intelligence levels in individuals vary a lot, everybody is not smart enough to be a rocket scientist.

Full one upper potential here

If you choose to make minimum wage you have probably made many more bad decisions

Kids graduating now for the most part can't set up a budget, read or write in cursive, write a check, balance a check book, do a simple tax return, do simple math problems in their head, they have to diagram and break it down or use a calculator. Most can't even make change even when the cash register tells them how much it is. An example is a bill for $13.47 cents and I gave the person $15.50 and they gave me back a $5 bill and a quarter. I gave the money back and said the change should be $2.03, they called their lead person over and she said I was given the correct amount and handed me $5.25 and said thanks. I gave up and just took it and walked away.

I agree with some of the things you said. Where I take exception, and I see this a lot from people older than me, is:

No one cares about writing in cursive. I thought it was dumb when I was taught it, and I’m almost 40.

No one writes checks anymore. In fact, if you do, no one likes you. Therefore, there is no balancing a checkbook. It’s all managing your checking account, but writing a check, in a city, is a no-no. I understand a lot of people here probably still write checks and think balancing a check book matters, but it doesn’t for the kids in school right now, or the last twenty years.

No one does a “simple tax return” because tax returns aren’t simple (although they should be) and turbo tax is $50 and you can do it in your underwear in an hour or less.

Yes, the ability to perform simple math in their head is an issue. I believe everyone should be able to to basic arithmetic. But, just like reading a clock is unnecessary because everyone has a digital clock now, everyone also has a calculator on them at all times. It’s all in your phone. Right or wrong, that the way of the world now.

So funny and so true

#noparenting

I still write checks for 90% of my bills, cause I got hacked on on line banking multiple times, realizing it could happen on my mailed checks many times. I just don't trust on line banking at all. Im still going to Winstar tomorrow and gang raping TFF folks on the poker table by the thousands. Mark my words.

Gang rape TFF folks. Stay classy, Beav.

Ok, I will

I bet you won't lol

Lumping all of today's kid in that is pure ignorance. A small percentage, yes, but about that same percentage has been in every generation, including yours.

No kidding. My 14 year old kills it in math. I didn't do anything special. He will have college credits next year in 9th. Will have geometry and algebra 2 done. I can read fraction problems with solve x outloud and he solves them before I can set them up on paper. Daughter is complete opposite and very creative.

What's this have to do with $20 min wage?? Or video games...

How did this turn into an education thread. lol
$20/hr is impossible.
Milk will go up to $15/gl. A burger will be $23, deer corn will be $25/bag
They only way to pay that, is for businesses to raise the price of everything, An AC service call would be hundreds....oh yea already is, ok it would be worse than hundreds.

A stupid idea that would only raise the cost and will be paid by the middle class.........

Along with killing a huge amount of jobs, far more lost money than the few who will benefit after figuring many will cut hrs for those still employed, similar to what happened with obumer care to keep employees under the hr to cover min.

Public education is the devil on THF.

...thereby creating a huge group dependent on government support....which is what the Dems want in the first place.....

College doesent have a darn thing to do with it. Lots of high school graduates who are multi-millionaires and lots of college grads who are living hand to mouth making modest salaries.

It’s about work ethic and the desire to succeed.

Best thing that ever happened to me, was years of being broke and not liking it.

Sucked at the time but I realize now it was a tremendous blessing

Very true. I did not go to any institutes of higher learning and did very well for myself. Work hard, Be there when you are supposed to be. Learn all you can about your job. Keep your nose clean and your mouth shut. When you have gone as far as possible at where you work find another that pays better and gives you an opportunity to learn more.

Well articulated

Education system did not fail. Education system was given rules and boundaries that would not allow it to do its prime directive. Teachers did not fail! Parents failed. Government failed. Administration failed. Then higher education was contiminated and now we have what we have and everyone says the education system failed. If they MADE you try and run diesel in your gas engine would you say the manufacture failed. Nope!

Why are teachers so dam untouchable? I was one for a short period of time. There are a ton of amazing teachers. But there are also bad teachers, that need to be fired, like in any other walk of life, but it is hell trying to fire a teacher. Teachers become administrators.

Can you explain this? It appears you are assuming that a dairyman only produces about a gallon every 20 minutes, or a burger fry cook only cooks 1 an hour, and corn, farmers have never been on minimum or any other wage scale.

The AC worker, he already paid over $20 an hour, maybe if we reduce their wages the price of AC service will come down. But then the AC guy will go to work at McDonalds for the $20 an hour burger flipper job.

In Midland the starting pay at McDonalds is $14 to $18, and hamburgers etc., are not any where $20.

That's because they are having to compete for employees...market driven....and the people getting $14-$18 are far fewer than the people who were being paid $8-$10

are we gonna have to start callin you "lil beav" on tff?

I write checks and do online banking. I write these checks in cursive. In my main a out I separate money to numerous things so balancing a checkbook/ acct is important and can be difficult.

More important kids should taught where money comes from, how to create money and that working for someone else most likely won't make them rich
Regardless of their education
If I understood when I was leaving high school what I understand now I would have been doing my own thing 20 years ago.
I do try to educate them young uns best I can now though if it makes their life better great

I haven't graduated to tff yet, that would be the lowest of the lowest

It's not the dairyman...it's the minimum wage workers that make the plastic milk jugs, the workers who then bottle the milk, the guys who drive the trucks to deliver the milk to the grocery store, the grocery store employees who unload the trucks, the stock boys who put the milk on the shelf, and the cashiers who check you out when you buy the milk. When you increase the cost of delivering the milk, the cost will go up.

In a restaurant the cost of food is typically 30-35% and the labor is usually around the same percentage. The food costs would increase as well as the labor costs. Thus the price of the burger would go up...maybe not to $20, but it's not gonna stay the same price.

Your example is using one business in the city and one business in the entire chain. Like dochorton said, if the official minimum wage is $20, that applies to everyone in the McDonald's corporation in the U.S., along with all of their vendors and all of their vendors' vendors and so on. You can pay some employees a higher wage in one link of the chain and keep prices reasonable. There is no way they could keep prices down if everyone is getting paid at least $20 per hour. This would be a disaster of epic proportions.

LOL...Yes frightening but so true. I've had similar experiences with kids working the register!