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how long will his money last?

Posted By: Buzzsaw

how long will his money last? - 06/04/19 06:50 PM

my brother in law just retired at 67. he has around $750,000 portfolio. most is cash. his health is fair to good. he had prostate cancer years ago, tributes it to agent orange. he gets a small VA benefit for shrapnel wound in his eye.

any way he and i were talking about if he could live comfortable, still hunting (Texas), vacationing and gun collecting in moderation. No safari's, Brown bear hunts etc.

What do ya'll think?

I told him in my experience investing sucks at his age. It takes FOREVER to make money but thanks to Trump and his Tariffs, you can lose $3,000 in three weeks. Make it back in 8 months, MAYBE.
Posted By: dkershen

Re: how long will his money last? - 06/04/19 06:58 PM

Two many unknowns here. What are his cost of living expenses and what is his SS and VA payout bringing in? Assuming his portfolio stays in low risk/ low return investments like CD ladders, it'll last about 20 years at $40K-$45K a year burn rate.
Posted By: NORML as can be

Re: how long will his money last? - 06/04/19 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by Buzzsaw


I told him in my experience investing sucks at his age. It takes FOREVER to make money but thanks to Trump and his Tariffs, you can lose $3,000 in three weeks. Make it back in 8 months, MAYBE.



Pot Stocks are, "HIGH" today. cool2
Posted By: ducknbass

Re: how long will his money last? - 06/04/19 07:04 PM

More! More tariffs. flag
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: how long will his money last? - 06/04/19 07:58 PM

Debts?
Posted By: beaversnipe

Re: how long will his money last? - 06/04/19 07:59 PM

He should go to Vegas and bet everything on red.

After that, buy 3 munis for $500,000 each at 4% return and live off the $60,000 a year
Posted By: DocHorton

Re: how long will his money last? - 06/04/19 08:00 PM

If he stays invested and makes 4% per year he can withdraw $50k per year for 22 years before he runs out of money.
Posted By: beaversnipe

Re: how long will his money last? - 06/04/19 08:02 PM

Originally Posted by DocHorton
If he stays invested and makes 4% per year he can withdraw $50k per year for 22 years before he runs out of money.


But if he gives it too me, ill make him 8% plus a signed Madoff Timex watch.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: how long will his money last? - 06/04/19 08:03 PM

Mine is still growing. I'm living off my social security, and two pensions. My IRA is even still growing after my RMD.
Posted By: don k

Re: how long will his money last? - 06/04/19 08:58 PM

Bitcoin is where you can make some real money.
Posted By: beaversnipe

Re: how long will his money last? - 06/04/19 09:07 PM

Originally Posted by don k
Bitcoin is where you can make some real money.


Except for today, bleeding 500
Posted By: reeltexan

Re: how long will his money last? - 06/04/19 09:09 PM

Originally Posted by DocHorton
If he stays invested and makes 4% per year he can withdraw $50k per year for 22 years before he runs out of money.



that oughta do 'er
Posted By: Buzzsaw

Re: how long will his money last? - 06/04/19 09:13 PM

good stuff, thanks
Posted By: beaversnipe

Re: how long will his money last? - 06/04/19 09:31 PM

Originally Posted by reeltexan
Originally Posted by DocHorton
If he stays invested and makes 4% per year he can withdraw $50k per year for 22 years before he runs out of money.



that oughta do 'er


Except that the $50,000 in 22 years would be worth $25,000 in todays money and will be just enough to pay your prop taxes while eating out of your neighbors trash can.
So u gonna need more, always more, more, more, more, more, more.
And once you gonna have more, you need more again, and more on top of that more
bang
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: how long will his money last? - 06/04/19 11:50 PM

Inflation does not apply to retired people like it does to working people. You no longer buys as much gas, clothes, pay tolls, houses, etc, etc.
Posted By: don k

Re: how long will his money last? - 06/04/19 11:53 PM

Originally Posted by beaversnipe
Originally Posted by reeltexan
Originally Posted by DocHorton
If he stays invested and makes 4% per year he can withdraw $50k per year for 22 years before he runs out of money.



that oughta do 'er


Except that the $50,000 in 22 years would be worth $25,000 in todays money and will be just enough to pay your prop taxes while eating out of your neighbors trash can.
So u gonna need more, always more, more, more, more, more, more.
And once you gonna have more, you need more again, and more on top of that more
bang
You sell your relic yet? Are you keeping it for future gains?
Posted By: Slow Drifter

Re: how long will his money last? - 06/04/19 11:54 PM

If he was in Vietnam and had prostate cancer he can get more from the VA. He needs to get with a service organization like TVC or DAV, just for examples. Tax-free income potentially. PM if you'd like.

Edited to add: 38CFR 3.309(e) and 4.115(b).
Posted By: Gacman

Re: how long will his money last? - 06/04/19 11:54 PM

I would check the math but probably this is ok.
Posted By: Gacman

Re: how long will his money last? - 06/04/19 11:55 PM

Originally Posted by DocHorton
If he stays invested and makes 4% per year he can withdraw $50k per year for 22 years before he runs out of money.

this
Posted By: bucksnbass357

Re: how long will his money last? - 06/04/19 11:56 PM

Originally Posted by don k
Originally Posted by beaversnipe
Originally Posted by reeltexan
Originally Posted by DocHorton
If he stays invested and makes 4% per year he can withdraw $50k per year for 22 years before he runs out of money.



that oughta do 'er


Except that the $50,000 in 22 years would be worth $25,000 in todays money and will be just enough to pay your prop taxes while eating out of your neighbors trash can.
So u gonna need more, always more, more, more, more, more, more.
And once you gonna have more, you need more again, and more on top of that more
bang
You sell your relic yet? Are you keeping it for future gains?
.
happy3 roflmao
Posted By: Slow Drifter

Re: how long will his money last? - 06/05/19 12:27 AM

Please see my post above and have him get with a Veteran's service organization, if he hasn't already.
Posted By: glens

Re: how long will his money last? - 06/05/19 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
Inflation does not apply to retired people like it does to working people. You no longer buys as much gas, clothes, pay tolls, houses, etc, etc.



Some do but I don't mind spending like a drunk sailor (no offense to drunk sailor's). Wife and I are enjoying what we have accomplished. No use sitting around in the dark looking for grocery deals. banana
Posted By: beaversnipe

Re: how long will his money last? - 06/05/19 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by glens
Originally Posted by bill oxner
Inflation does not apply to retired people like it does to working people. You no longer buys as much gas, clothes, pay tolls, houses, etc, etc.



Some do but I don't mind spending like a drunk sailor (no offense to drunk sailor's). Wife and I are enjoying what we have accomplished. No use sitting around in the dark looking for grocery deals. banana


I totally agree.
When retirement kicks in, more time, more traveling, golfing, hunting, fishing trips.
No way i ll sit on my velcro chair counting coupons hoping for rain. Im outta here as much as i can till health will force me on that velcro chair.
Posted By: Cochise

Re: how long will his money last? - 06/05/19 12:48 PM

I would say he's better off retirement wise than 90% of Americans.
Posted By: redchevy

Re: how long will his money last? - 06/05/19 01:13 PM

Is he going to get social security? Does the 750k count all of his retirements etc.

With no interest earned, no social security and nothing else he has 3,125 a month for 20 years. As long as he doesn't buy guns like you do I think he will be fine.
Posted By: SnakeWrangler

Re: how long will his money last? - 06/05/19 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by Cochise
I would say he's better off retirement wise than 90% of Americans.
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: how long will his money last? - 06/05/19 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by redchevy
Is he going to get social security? Does the 750k count all of his retirements etc.

With no interest earned, no social security and nothing else he has 3,125 a month for 20 years. As long as he doesn't buy guns like you do I think he will be fine.


Earning 5%, its $3125 in interest a month before tax.
Posted By: Buzzsaw

Re: how long will his money last? - 06/05/19 04:17 PM

he gets $4586 per month from VA and SS combined
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: how long will his money last? - 06/05/19 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by Buzzsaw
he gets $4586 per month from VA and SS combined


If he can’t live on that, plus the interest on the $750,000, he might need to make some lifestyle changes.
Posted By: redchevy

Re: how long will his money last? - 06/05/19 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
Originally Posted by Buzzsaw
he gets $4586 per month from VA and SS combined


If he can’t live on that, plus the interest on the $750,000, he might need to make some lifestyle changes.


What some folks spend to me is crazy. Im in my low 30's two kids in daycare and a mortgage and I can and most months do get buy spending less than just the 4,586.
Posted By: Brother in-law

Re: how long will his money last? - 06/05/19 05:03 PM

Originally Posted by Buzzsaw
he gets $4586 per month from VA and SS combined



One upper thread

I wish I made that a month
Posted By: RedRanger

Re: how long will his money last? - 06/05/19 05:07 PM

Originally Posted by Buzzsaw
he gets $4586 per month from VA and SS combined


He could move to Central or South American or Southeast Asia and live like Donald Trump
Posted By: RedRanger

Re: how long will his money last? - 06/05/19 05:09 PM

He has $750k cash assets, and gets another $4586 per month from SS/VA

This dude needs to start spending and stop saving.
Posted By: beaversnipe

Re: how long will his money last? - 06/05/19 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by RedRanger
He has $750k cash assets, and gets another $4586 per month from SS/VA

This dude needs to start spending and stop saving.


Pretty much

$90,000 per year spending money.
Go ahead and start buying some guns.
Posted By: Sniper John

Re: how long will his money last? - 06/05/19 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by RedRanger
He has $750k cash assets, and gets another $4586 per month from SS/VA

This dude needs to start spending and stop saving.


No joke. If the $4586 were and annuity, figured in with the cash value of what that would cost, whatever equity in property he has, and his $750k, he is worth well more than a million. He might should get much of that $750k out of cash and into some index funds high/low risk proportioned per how much risk he is willing to take. Maybe even at this point in his life look at part of it in some high dividend blue chip stocks, let it ride, and just add the dividend checks to his monthly income. There are some paying 4% or more. He has lots of investment options for that $750k, but to make up for that 22 year rule, "most is cash" is not where it needs to be. As said, he is better off than 90% of Americans at his age. Congratulations to him.
Posted By: Lazyjack

Re: how long will his money last? - 06/05/19 08:14 PM

Originally Posted by Buzzsaw
he gets $4586 per month from VA and SS combined



I gonna he will be ok. He could buy a boat and get a girlfriend named Sparkles.
Posted By: NORML as can be

Re: how long will his money last? - 06/05/19 09:57 PM

Does this Sparkles you speak of have a number?
Posted By: Espy

Re: how long will his money last? - 06/05/19 10:01 PM

Originally Posted by SnakeWrangler
Originally Posted by Cochise
I would say he's better off retirement wise than 90% of Americans.



I know people that will have to work way past retirement age.
Posted By: freerange

Re: how long will his money last? - 06/05/19 10:19 PM

Originally Posted by 68rustbucket
Originally Posted by Buzzsaw
he gets $4586 per month from VA and SS combined


If he can’t live on that, plus the interest on the $750,000, he might need to make some lifestyle changes.


^^^^Definitely. I guess its all relative to what your used to and what you expect and I can attest to the fact that the more you get the more you want. Toys just get bigger etc. But he is soooo much better off than most I would think he would be thankful and leave it at that.
Posted By: don k

Re: how long will his money last? - 06/05/19 10:26 PM

Originally Posted by Lazyjack
Originally Posted by Buzzsaw
he gets $4586 per month from VA and SS combined



I gonna he will be ok. He could buy a boat and get a girlfriend named Sparkles.

I just bet "Sparkles" could help him deplete that nest egg.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: how long will his money last? - 06/05/19 10:41 PM

You could donate to a member and still make it.



https://www.cmnetwork.org/serving-with-cmn/
Posted By: snoopy

Re: how long will his money last? - 06/05/19 10:54 PM

Originally Posted by Buzzsaw
my brother in law just retired at 67. he has around $750,000 portfolio. most is cash. his health is fair to good. he had prostate cancer years ago, tributes it to agent orange. he gets a small VA benefit for shrapnel wound in his eye.

any way he and i were talking about if he could live comfortable, still hunting (Texas), vacationing and gun collecting in moderation. No safari's, Brown bear hunts etc.

What do ya'll think?

I told him in my experience investing sucks at his age. It takes FOREVER to make money but thanks to Trump and his Tariffs, you can lose $3,000 in three weeks. Make it back in 8 months, MAYBE.

I'm 66, 15 days short of 67. Anyway, you guys shouldn't want to/have to consult social media for opinions on your choices....damn!
Posted By: reeltexan

Re: how long will his money last? - 06/05/19 11:01 PM



word ^^^^^
Posted By: jetdad

Re: how long will his money last? - 06/05/19 11:10 PM

[quote=RedRanger]He has $750k cash assets, and gets another $4586 per month from SS/VA

How much is that in hookers and blow?
Posted By: 68rustbucket

Re: how long will his money last? - 06/05/19 11:26 PM

Originally Posted by jetdad
[quote=RedRanger]He has $750k cash assets, and gets another $4586 per month from SS/VA

How much is that in hookers and blow?


I’ll bet Charlie Sheen could answer that question.
Posted By: PKnTX

Re: how long will his money last? - 06/05/19 11:36 PM

Originally Posted by snoopy
Originally Posted by Buzzsaw
my brother in law just retired at 67. he has around $750,000 portfolio. most is cash. his health is fair to good. he had prostate cancer years ago, tributes it to agent orange. he gets a small VA benefit for shrapnel wound in his eye.

any way he and i were talking about if he could live comfortable, still hunting (Texas), vacationing and gun collecting in moderation. No safari's, Brown bear hunts etc.

What do ya'll think?

I told him in my experience investing sucks at his age. It takes FOREVER to make money but thanks to Trump and his Tariffs, you can lose $3,000 in three weeks. Make it back in 8 months, MAYBE.

I'm 66, 15 days short of 67. Anyway, you guys shouldn't want to/have to consult social media for opinions on your choices....damn!


90% of questions are actually statements in disquise.
Posted By: beaversnipe

Re: how long will his money last? - 06/06/19 12:14 AM

Originally Posted by snoopy
Originally Posted by Buzzsaw
my brother in law just retired at 67. he has around $750,000 portfolio. most is cash. his health is fair to good. he had prostate cancer years ago, tributes it to agent orange. he gets a small VA benefit for shrapnel wound in his eye.

any way he and i were talking about if he could live comfortable, still hunting (Texas), vacationing and gun collecting in moderation. No safari's, Brown bear hunts etc.

What do ya'll think?

I told him in my experience investing sucks at his age. It takes FOREVER to make money but thanks to Trump and his Tariffs, you can lose $3,000 in three weeks. Make it back in 8 months, MAYBE.

I'm 66, 15 days short of 67. Anyway, you guys shouldn't want to/have to consult social media for opinions on your choices....damn!


wins the internet today
Posted By: nsmike

Re: how long will his money last? - 06/06/19 12:31 AM

I actually sat down with an advisor yesterday doing some retirement planning. Let's just say that it was nice to be making decisions based on tax consequences rather than figuring out how to eat.
Posted By: glens

Re: how long will his money last? - 06/06/19 12:33 AM

Originally Posted by NORML as can be
Does this Sparkles you speak of have a number?

You have $750,000 in the bank?? Sure you can find Her if you do. banana
Posted By: glens

Re: how long will his money last? - 06/06/19 12:35 AM

Originally Posted by snoopy
Originally Posted by Buzzsaw
my brother in law just retired at 67. he has around $750,000 portfolio. most is cash. his health is fair to good. he had prostate cancer years ago, tributes it to agent orange. he gets a small VA benefit for shrapnel wound in his eye.

any way he and i were talking about if he could live comfortable, still hunting (Texas), vacationing and gun collecting in moderation. No safari's, Brown bear hunts etc.

What do ya'll think?

I told him in my experience investing sucks at his age. It takes FOREVER to make money but thanks to Trump and his Tariffs, you can lose $3,000 in three weeks. Make it back in 8 months, MAYBE.

I'm 66, 15 days short of 67. Anyway, you guys shouldn't want to/have to consult social media for opinions on your choices....damn!

Heck, that ain't nuttin, I'm fixing to ask these wise guys about heart surgery.
Posted By: jakebunch

Re: how long will his money last? - 06/06/19 01:09 AM

Originally Posted by nsmike
I actually sat down with an advisor yesterday doing some retirement planning. Let's just say that it was nice to be making decisions based on tax consequences rather than figuring out how to eat.



Smart move and the best one
Posted By: Superduty

Re: how long will his money last? - 06/06/19 01:13 AM

So what does everyone think about Edward Jones in general?

I have this very persistent guy who calls me about every other month.

Great guy and I do like his tenacity. Just not sure about the dealings.
Posted By: dogcatcher

Re: how long will his money last? - 06/06/19 01:44 AM

Originally Posted by glens
Heck, that ain't nuttin, I'm fixing to ask these wise guys about heart surgery.


My wife is the expert at that, one of the students at her school once said she could do open heart surgery without the benefit of anesthesia. A smart "A" kid said she just grabs the heart, jerks it out of the body, explains the rules and puts it back.
Posted By: pokerj2

Re: how long will his money last? - 06/06/19 02:14 AM

Have him call me!
Posted By: Sniper John

Re: how long will his money last? - 06/06/19 04:02 AM

Originally Posted by snoopy
Originally Posted by Buzzsaw
my brother in law just retired at 67. he has around $750,000 portfolio. most is cash. his health is fair to good. he had prostate cancer years ago, tributes it to agent orange. he gets a small VA benefit for shrapnel wound in his eye.

any way he and i were talking about if he could live comfortable, still hunting (Texas), vacationing and gun collecting in moderation. No safari's, Brown bear hunts etc.

What do ya'll think?

I told him in my experience investing sucks at his age. It takes FOREVER to make money but thanks to Trump and his Tariffs, you can lose $3,000 in three weeks. Make it back in 8 months, MAYBE.

I'm 66, 15 days short of 67. Anyway, you guys shouldn't want to/have to consult social media for opinions on your choices....damn!


The one that retired is not consulting social media here. I doubt he asked snoopy to get advice on THF for him. Even more I doubt he would take anyone's advice here even if snoopy passed it on. It's just something to talk about is all. cheers
Posted By: TX_LT230FH

Re: how long will his money last? - 06/06/19 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by Superduty
So what does everyone think about Edward Jones in general?

I have this very persistent guy who calls me about every other month.

Great guy and I do like his tenacity. Just not sure about the dealings.


They’re OK for most people but their load is high. Vanguard is really good.
Posted By: Buzzsaw

Re: how long will his money last? - 06/06/19 01:18 PM

Originally Posted by Sniper John
Originally Posted by snoopy
Originally Posted by Buzzsaw
my brother in law just retired at 67. he has around $750,000 portfolio. most is cash. his health is fair to good. he had prostate cancer years ago, tributes it to agent orange. he gets a small VA benefit for shrapnel wound in his eye.

any way he and i were talking about if he could live comfortable, still hunting (Texas), vacationing and gun collecting in moderation. No safari's, Brown bear hunts etc.

What do ya'll think?

I told him in my experience investing sucks at his age. It takes FOREVER to make money but thanks to Trump and his Tariffs, you can lose $3,000 in three weeks. Make it back in 8 months, MAYBE.

I'm 66, 15 days short of 67. Anyway, you guys shouldn't want to/have to consult social media for opinions on your choices....damn!


The one that retired is not consulting social media here. I doubt he asked snoopy to get advice on THF for him. Even more I doubt he would take anyone's advice here even if snoopy passed it on. It's just something to talk about is all. cheers

thanks sniper john. its apparent snoopy has no money saved , so his only recourse is to dis someone who does. no problem, everyone has a voice here.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: how long will his money last? - 06/06/19 02:44 PM

It was a fun thread. Thanks a bunch for posting Buzz.. up
Posted By: DocHorton

Re: how long will his money last? - 06/06/19 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by Brother in-law
Originally Posted by Buzzsaw
he gets $4586 per month from VA and SS combined



One upper thread

I wish I made that a month



I have a patient who is a LEO with DPD...he works a couple side gigs and does security, etc, whenever he can. Said he makes as much from those as his LEO salary. The only thing holding people back is themselves....
Posted By: redchevy

Re: how long will his money last? - 06/06/19 04:41 PM

Originally Posted by DocHorton
Originally Posted by Brother in-law
Originally Posted by Buzzsaw
he gets $4586 per month from VA and SS combined



One upper thread

I wish I made that a month



I have a patient who is a LEO with DPD...he works a couple side gigs and does security, etc, whenever he can. Said he makes as much from those as his LEO salary. The only thing holding people back is themselves....

We use to operate a firework super store outside san Antonio. We had to have a cop on site from 9pm to midnight when we closed. Our cop charged $50/hour to do nothing.
Posted By: ducknbass

Re: how long will his money last? - 06/06/19 07:17 PM

Originally Posted by DocHorton
Originally Posted by Brother in-law
Originally Posted by Buzzsaw
he gets $4586 per month from VA and SS combined



One upper thread

I wish I made that a month



I have a patient who is a LEO with DPD...he works a couple side gigs and does security, etc, whenever he can. Said he makes as much from those as his LEO salary. The only thing holding people back is themselves....


Maybe ole brother in law enjoys his wife and kids a bit more than your friend does.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: how long will his money last? - 06/06/19 08:40 PM

I discovered NSTRA soon after I retired. I traveled all over the states judging or trailing.

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Posted By: huck18

Re: how long will his money last? - 06/06/19 08:52 PM

Originally Posted by DocHorton
Originally Posted by Brother in-law
Originally Posted by Buzzsaw
he gets $4586 per month from VA and SS combined



One upper thread

I wish I made that a month



I have a patient who is a LEO with DPD...he works a couple side gigs and does security, etc, whenever he can. Said he makes as much from those as his LEO salary. The only thing holding people back is themselves....



Yep. You get paid what your worth. If you don't think you're worth that why would someone pay you that. Don't like what you get paid, quit.
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: how long will his money last? - 06/06/19 09:15 PM

I started drawing social security at 62. Never had any regrets about that.
Posted By: glens

Re: how long will his money last? - 06/06/19 11:17 PM

Originally Posted by bill oxner
I discovered NSTRA soon after I retired. I traveled all over the states judging or trailing



What's that got to do with this subject, how long will the money last?? You do have a nice looking dog.
Originally Posted by bill oxner
I discovered NSTRA soon after I retired. I traveled all over the states judging or trailing.

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And ,,,,
Posted By: bill oxner

Re: how long will his money last? - 06/06/19 11:41 PM

Originally Posted by glens
Originally Posted by bill oxner
I discovered NSTRA soon after I retired. I traveled all over the states judging or trailing



What's that got to do with this subject, how long will the money last?? You do have a nice looking dog.
Originally Posted by bill oxner
I discovered NSTRA soon after I retired. I traveled all over the states judging or trailing.

[Linked Image]
[Linked Image]

And ,,,,


You are the one who wrote that I just sat around and looked at food ads. I was mostly replying to lifestyles.
Posted By: NORML as can be

Re: how long will his money last? - 06/07/19 01:50 AM

I need to find something to do before I can't do anything..
Posted By: ntxtrapper

Re: how long will his money last? - 06/07/19 03:07 AM

Fiscal responsibly has nothing to do with how much you make but rather how much you spend.
Posted By: cbump

Re: how long will his money last? - 06/07/19 04:58 AM

Originally Posted by DocHorton
Originally Posted by Brother in-law
Originally Posted by Buzzsaw
he gets $4586 per month from VA and SS combined



One upper thread

I wish I made that a month



I have a patient who is a LEO with DPD...he works a couple side gigs and does security, etc, whenever he can. Said he makes as much from those as his LEO salary. The only thing holding people back is themselves....



Yeah that and policies prohibiting out of county side jobs.
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