Remington 700 ADL vs. SPS

Hey guys,

I want to get my first deer rifle for Christmas this year, and I've decided on a Remington 700 in .30-06. First off, is this a good choice? My second question is, should I get the Model 700 ADL or Model 700 SPS? The SPS is usually about $75 more than the ADL. Is the SPS worth the extra cash? What are the differences? Also, I'm probably going to get a Simmons 6-18x50 scope, because I can afford it and I've heard they are pretty good. Any thoughts on that?

Thanks fellas.

I would get the sps, it has the drop plate on the bottom it makes it easier unloading it. As for the scope i would suggest a lower power scope like a 3-9x40.

Yeah I wouldn't get the 18 power unless it is on a more higher quality scope.

Why should I get a lower powered scope? I probably won't ever zoom into x20, I just think it'd be nice to have for scouting or checking targets or things like that.

Because cheap high powered scopes look like crap at 18 power and might not have same point of impact when cranked up. Get some binoculars for scouting. Shouldn't point your gun at anything you don't intend to shoot.

Less light and not as much field of view, the 50mm will set up higher on the rifle and make the bullets path and the line of sight be farther apart also.

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Would the scope be fine if I kept it say under x15 magnification? The primary reason I'm looking at this scope is because of price, and my friend has a few and he says they are decent.

Does anyone else have anything to say regarding SPS vs. ADL?

I would pick the SPS.

If you like that scope go for it. I don't know how much it is but you can get a 3-9x40 Nikon Prostaff for pretty cheap and have a really nice setup.

Is 3-9 enough? The Nikon you mentioned is about $50 more than the Simmons. Is it worth it?

It is worth it to me. It may not be for you. 3-9 is plenty.

Well, how much better quality are Nikon scopes over Simmons scopes?

In any brand scope, the higher magnification you go, the higher the price. If the 18x Simmons is $50 less than the 9x Nikon, that tells you something right there, IMO.

That's very true, thanks. I think I'll take the Nikon.

Should I get the 40mm or 50mm objective lense version? What are the differences, besides the obvious size difference.

I'de choose the SPS, not sure why, but I like mine over the adl(s) I have. Could probably do better on the scope, but I have had one (Simmons 6-18x50 ProSport?/can't remember which model) on an abolt SS 300wm for the last 7 yrs and it is a tack driver. It very seldom comes off 18x.

Also look at the Vortex Diamond back

Actually Frosty PM me... I got the hook up for you... a free Burris FFII 3x9x40 BP- First rifle needs a good first scope.

That is awesome, Bobo!

PM'ed.

Thanks for the help guys, I decided on the SPS and I will either get the Nikon 3-9x40 or BOBO's Burris.

I really appreciate you guys taking the time to help out a newbie. I'll be sure to post pics of my first buck!

Pm sent... just as long as you promise to post the picture of your first buck...

I just bought a 700 SPS in 30.06 and I love it. Mine has a Burris timberline 3-9x32 and it is very accurate. Good luck on that first buck.

Thats a nice thing to do BOBO. I have 2 Burris FF IIs with BP and have had good luck with both. Better than both of the scopes mentioned in this thread IMO.

Definitely a better scope than what has been mentioned. I only mention the prostaff because of the price.

Burris is a far better choice. I have 2 and love them. Wont buy another Leupold or Nikon after using the Burris.


BoBo is the man!!!!!!

Yes AND yes

IMO you will be way ahead in quality optics by going with BOBO's Burris. I have had one on my .270 Weatherby Magnum, Model 70 for 23 years and it is still one of the best set ups I have had and still have. Yes 3-9 is enough. If you live close to Garland I will meet you at thee range help you mount it, bore sight it and sight in.

BOBO that is a very kind and generous thing you are doing.

Frosty-
Shipped and PM'd you tracking number

Any one have an extra set of 1 in rings you could hook frosty up with?

that's the holiday spirit BOBO - awesome!

Frosty, that's going to be a nice set up for sure. I would also look at the 270 in that rifle.

Any one what to help a kid out with so free rings

Thanks for all the positive comments guys. BOBO, thanks again man.

Red Cloud - I live in Austin, not really near Garland. I appreciate the offer though.

Frosty not sure if this is said or not, nothing wrong with 3006 but I would seriously get a 308 or 270 first for pretty much the same affects as what you are looking at. Just a little more pleasant to shoot. If you already got it , congrats. I have pretty much the same gun in a bdl. Cant go wrong

I might have a set of 1" rings i can send you... They will be Weaver rings, but you can up grade to better rings later if you want them.

Thanks Guys your helping out a nice young man need to put some weight on him for football but a nice young man. I'm going to have to try to get him a buck now - he is over at our house tonight and was sitting in a bow blind with my son tonight. might have to plan a hunt after Christmas for him if he keeps making the grades at school.

All of you have the right spirit it's all about our youth.

I bought my son a Simmons scope to go on a 284. He doesn't gun hunt much he has turned to bow hunting but out grew his 243. It was cheap the only reason. I have 3 Burris scopes all high power started with the 3x9 but grew to the 32 power. Very nice scopes thanks BoBo!

I'll try to get him that buck if he still wants it my son has been lobbying for him as well.

No problem... i hope he gets one. Sounds like your stand up guy. Thank you for helping protect our passion by introducing youth to hunting

BoBo Just heard from Frosty he is all excited. Told him he just needs a gun and a bullet now.

Told him as well to go study as Finals are coming up next week.

Thanks

If your purpose is hunting deer, then you want the most light you can get with the widest field of view. I have used a straight 4x scope for deer hunting for those reasons and more. It has less moving parts so it is rugged - zero has never moved whether it's bumped along in a truck or checked as baggage on a flight (or both).

This is a little unconventional, but you might also look at a magnum pistol fixed power scope. The eye relief is tremendous, which helps you pick up your target very quickly because you aren't jacking around trying to get lined up in the heat of the moment.

Outstanding!!! love to hear about kids getting pumped about hunting.. Good luck to both of you.