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Best small 9mm pistol

Posted By: 603Country

Best small 9mm pistol - 02/14/24 05:52 PM

I know this has been cussed and discussed over time, but I need some info from ya’ll. I’m down to 2 pistols, a Bodyguard 380 and a Beretta PX4. The Bodyguard is perfect for the pocket. The Beretta is a great shooter, but not small. I want a 9mm that is not as big as the PX4 and is thinner. Needs to be absolutely reliable and not punishing to the hand when I shoot it. I might or might not put a red dot sight on it. Probably will just want tritium sights on it. Would consider a Glock, but not a real big fan of them.

What say you?
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 02/14/24 06:08 PM

Sig P365.
Posted By: unclebubba

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 02/14/24 06:14 PM

I love, and carry a sig p938. It is very 1911ish, so if you like 1911's, you will probably like the p938. The P365 that skinnerback recommends is what my wife carries. It is a very good shooting pistol as well, but the p938 is ever so slightly thinner as it is a single stack. Both came with Tritium night sights.

edit: if you do look at the p938, get the mags with the pinky extension. They are 7+1. The 6 round mags are worthless as you can not get a full grip on the gun.
Posted By: DustyArmadillo

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 02/14/24 06:16 PM

Been carrying a glock 43x everyday.

Lightweight, thin, feels good in the hand
Posted By: The Dude Abides

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 02/14/24 06:27 PM

+1…P365
Posted By: Biscuit

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 02/14/24 06:33 PM

I absolutely love my Sigp365x macro - holds a bunch and will fit in my pocket if I need it to
Posted By: QuitShootinYoungBucks

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 02/14/24 06:35 PM

You're going to get a ton of answers on this. Sig 365, S&W Shield, Glock 43/X, Springfield Hellcat, FNS, etc. and there are quite a few variations of each one (ported, extended, safety/no safety, single/double stacked, plus-sized, optics-ready). You really can't go wrong with any of the guns in this segment. Go to Cabelas/LGS and look at them all. I don't think any of them will pop your hand in 9mm.

I carry an original Shield, it's very thin, 8+1, and I added night sights to it. All in I'm under $350.
Posted By: patriot07

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 02/14/24 06:55 PM

Shield and 43x are my two favorites
Posted By: ZK-315

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 02/14/24 07:20 PM

I've enjoyed both my shield and p365. I did buy extended mags for both since I have pretty large hands. I tend to carry the p365 much more often after getting it.
Posted By: Nolanco

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 02/14/24 07:20 PM

If you can abide the Glocks, the 43X is excellent.
I am currently running a Smith CSX, but it is a bit on the chubby side compared to the other offerings. I like an all-metal hammer-fired pistol that feels a lot like a 1911.
Posted By: wp75169

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 02/14/24 07:36 PM

S&W equalizer. It replaced the EZ 2.0. I also very highly recommend the 365 but it’s not as user friendly. Crippled broke hands can rack the slide on the S&W. I guess it’s a dexterity question.
Posted By: QuitShootinYoungBucks

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 02/14/24 08:03 PM

This is an interesting offering. Internal hammer-fired, so SAO instead of DAO.

https://fnamerica.com/products/fn-reflex-series/fn-reflex/
Posted By: Gumbeaux

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 02/14/24 08:03 PM

PEE

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Posted By: duffas

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 02/14/24 08:15 PM

P938. SA and hammer block safety. Makes it OK for pocket carry.
Posted By: 603Country

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 02/14/24 08:20 PM

Ok, I guess Cabelas needs to be visited. I wasn’t gonna buy another gun, but there is a gap to be filled - between small and large. And, I hated to spend the money and get grief from the wife, but she just spent $300 on a visit to the beauty shop. That’s every 6 weeks. Sooooo, a new pistol it is. That FN Quitshootin showed us looks mighty good and ticks most of the boxes. But I need to see that P365. As for the 938, I was tempted, but didn’t like the cocked and locked. The Grandson has one though, and that thing will really shoot accurately. I have not seen or handled the Equalizer. Need to do that.

I had that EZ380 for a year or two, but the grip safety was a problem (not for me, but for just about everybody that shot it). And I hate reloading 380. I have enough ammo for the Bodyguard 380, so can focus more on 9mm reloading in the future.
Posted By: Longhorn74

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 02/14/24 08:32 PM

I’ve got the sig 938, sig 238 and the kimber micro 9mm. If your a fan of 1911s any one of these is a good carry pistol.
Posted By: Hunter-Steve

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 02/14/24 09:31 PM

I had two SIG 938's and sold them once I got a SIG P365 Custom Works model. It's significantly more accurate than the 938's and fits nicely in my hand and pocket with higher capacity mags.

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Posted By: jhenderson

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 02/14/24 09:47 PM

Best is hard to say. I want to love the 365 but I shoot it horribly. Best feeling trigger to me is the fn reflex but it’s still so new I’m not sold on it yet. Hellcat has a pretty good trigger but I don’t shoot it the best either. I shoot the glocks well but I’m looking for a replacement. The shields I shoot really well but don’t like them overall. It’s all about what you like at the end of the day.
Posted By: txtrophy85

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 02/14/24 10:14 PM

I love the Glock 43 but I'm a Glock fan. I do not own a 43 but handled one, I have a G19 and a 23.


I carry a S&W shield 9mm. Slim, trim and I shoot it pretty well.
Posted By: MortgageMan

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 02/14/24 10:21 PM

I have a P365 in 9MM and 380. Added a flat trigger to each. Like them both a lot for pocket carry. They are both accurate and don' punish my hand. No failures with either.
Posted By: Nolanco

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 02/14/24 10:32 PM

Lots of love for the P365, but like Mr. Henderson I shot it very poorly while I shoot the CSX surprisingly well. Be sure when you handle these pistols to do the closed-eyes test: grasp the empty pistol in your usual grip and with eyes closed raise to where you think you should be pointing and open your eyes. If you are consistently way out of alignment with the sights, it might not be the best model for you. I'd like to handle that FN.
Posted By: Superduty

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 02/14/24 10:38 PM

For me FN 509 in truck and concealed public carry, in house P365xl both with Red dots.

Posted By: 603Country

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 02/15/24 01:28 AM

The FN Reflex has no thumb safety, which I want. The S&W Equalizer has that grip safety that I dislike. The Glock has no thumb safety. More research to go.

The Sig P365MS has a manual safety. I need to go grip one.
Posted By: Brother in-law

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 02/15/24 01:55 AM

Neither of your two choices.

Glock 43. 43x if it's small enough for you, as it shoots better
Posted By: Smokey Bear

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 02/15/24 01:59 AM

SIG 365X with ambidextrous manual safety for us lefty’s. Has the longer grip and 12 round magazine of the 365 XL. I have big hands and despise the little two finger grips. Shorter slide of the 365. Came with good 3 dot tritium sights. I shoot it good and it doesn’t have much buck to it. I like it. About as small as I can shoot well. Didn’t feel like I needed to change or add anything to it. Nice little pistol.
Posted By: 603Country

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 02/15/24 02:12 AM

Without having touched either pistol, it looks like it’ll be between the P365MS and the S&W M&P Shield 2.0. That said, if the FN Reflex can be had with a
manual safety, it looks very interesting.

I just don’t want a Glock.
Posted By: wp75169

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 02/15/24 02:20 AM

I hope you figure it out but I am curious about not liking the grip safety? It’s never even crossed my mind that it’s on there or any of my others with it. Shooting the pistol requires you to release it so it’s not a conscious thought. The equalizer comes with or without the thumb safety. I still enjoy shooting the 365 more, but ease of operation goes to the smith. Guess I’ve already said that though.
Posted By: 603Country

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 02/15/24 02:29 AM

How’s the trigger on the 365? I’ll re-add the Equalizer to the list of possibles.
Posted By: jhenderson

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 02/15/24 02:51 AM

Trigger isn’t horrible but a flat trigger is a definite needed upgrade in my opinion. I’ve shot the regular 365, 365xl and the macro. Couldn’t shoot any of them well enough to trust my life with one. But the flat trigger on the xl and macro was a plus.
Posted By: unclebubba

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 02/15/24 04:25 AM

Originally Posted by 603Country
How’s the trigger on the 365? I’ll re-add the Equalizer to the list of possibles.

I like it fine. If you're back up in dfw or Corsicana you're welcome to shoot mine.I have a p365 and a p365xl.
Posted By: GasGuzzler

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 02/15/24 12:37 PM

I have a Shield because it was the first I found second had locally out of all the ones mentioned above.
Posted By: Smokey Bear

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 02/15/24 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by 603Country
How’s the trigger on the 365? I’ll re-add the Equalizer to the list of possibles.


Striker fired. Never shot a striker fired pistol that had what I would consider a good trigger. The caveat is I shoot it what I consider good for me with a small pistol. To my way of thinking, those little pocket pistols are up close point and shoot anyway.
Posted By: QuitShootinYoungBucks

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 02/15/24 03:33 PM

About striker-fired triggers, they will break in some over time. The Shield PRO from their custom shop has an upgraded trigger but I really couldn't tell enough difference between it and mine to spend an extra $150-200. The first thing I did with my Shield was dry-fire it about 300-400 times which made it feel pretty good. If you have to, APEX makes upgrades for a lot of these guns. I put a full APEX sear/trigger kit in my fullsize M&P and it did make a lot of difference.
Posted By: Texan Til I Die

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 02/15/24 03:36 PM

Glock 43X with the aftermarket 15 round double stack.
Posted By: Sewer rat

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 02/15/24 03:45 PM

P365. It is about as close to perfect for concealed carry as you can get. Small, light, reliable, adequate capacity. My wife, my son, and I all have one.

When I don't have to be so discrete I normally carry something larger like my EDCX9 but I feel completely comfortable with the 365.
Posted By: Judd

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 02/15/24 06:07 PM

I'm a G43 guy for daily carry, easy to conceal. BUT there are times I can throw a LCP 380 in a pocket and be even more discrete and it's a throw-away pistol to me. Also, if I didn't have a Glock...the 365 would be next on my list.

My wife wanted a new pistol last fall...she ended up getting a Glock 48 with MOS...I'm impressed enough with the red dot that I think I'll get a setup like that for myself...except I'll go with a 43 or 43x. I was amazed how much more accurate faster I was with the dot...I didn't believe the hype, until I actually shot one...I get it now.

Biggest thing is comfort...go to BPS/Cabelas or any other bigger gun shot and put them in your hand, get the one you like...doesn't matter what we recommend or shoot.

Also, Glock has the best safety...keep your booger picker off the bang switch until you're ready for it to go off. wink
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 02/15/24 07:12 PM

Originally Posted by Judd
BUT there are times I can throw a LCP 380 in a pocket and be even more discrete and it's a throw-away pistol to me.


Mine lives in my pocket, unless I'm at work.
Posted By: ntxtrapper

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 02/15/24 07:20 PM

Originally Posted by skinnerback
Originally Posted by Judd
BUT there are times I can throw a LCP 380 in a pocket and be even more discrete and it's a throw-away pistol to me.


Mine lives in my pocket, unless I'm at work.


Now that I’m not chasing bank robbers around anymore I’m content with carrying a LCP22. I have several of them.
Posted By: BigPig

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 02/15/24 07:20 PM

At the risk of sounding like Judd (gay), I have to say I’m fond of my G43x with light and RDO. Conceals easily, holds 15+1, and actually shoots really well for its size. I still rock the G42 when I want pocket carry.
Posted By: Mickey Moose

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 02/15/24 07:23 PM

Originally Posted by Biscuit
I absolutely love my Sigp365x macro - holds a bunch and will fit in my pocket if I need it to

A 365 X Macro in your pocket? Other than baggy shorts I don't know that I could do that and have it be inconspicuous and comfortable if it would even fit. How about a picture? Maybe I'll learn something and have another option.

Thanks.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 02/15/24 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by ntxtrapper
Originally Posted by skinnerback
Originally Posted by Judd
BUT there are times I can throw a LCP 380 in a pocket and be even more discrete and it's a throw-away pistol to me.


Mine lives in my pocket, unless I'm at work.


Now that I’m not chasing bank robbers around anymore I’m content with carrying a LCP22. I have several of them.



Those are great little pistols. up
Posted By: wp75169

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 02/15/24 09:18 PM

Originally Posted by Mickey Moose
Originally Posted by Biscuit
I absolutely love my Sigp365x macro - holds a bunch and will fit in my pocket if I need it to

A 365 X Macro in your pocket? Other than baggy shorts I don't know that I could do that and have it be inconspicuous and comfortable if it would even fit. How about a picture? Maybe I'll learn something and have another option.

Thanks.



Don’t be asking for pictures of another man’s pants.
Posted By: Tactical Cowboy

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 02/16/24 02:26 PM

Originally Posted by Texan Til I Die
Glock 43X with the aftermarket 15 round double stack.


This.
Posted By: TKM

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 02/16/24 03:19 PM

Kel-tec P3At in my pocket most of the time. Hellcat w/15rd mag on my belt or a XDM w/19rd mag when i can wear a shirt untucked.
The Duluth firehose cargo pants i wear the majority of the time has pockets that will easily conceal the Hellcat.
Posted By: jsteve

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 02/16/24 03:29 PM

Happy with my LC9s. In pocket or holster.
Posted By: Biscuit

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 02/16/24 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by Mickey Moose
Originally Posted by Biscuit
I absolutely love my Sigp365x macro - holds a bunch and will fit in my pocket if I need it to

A 365 X Macro in your pocket? Other than baggy shorts I don't know that I could do that and have it be inconspicuous and comfortable if it would even fit. How about a picture? Maybe I'll learn something and have another option.

Thanks.


I didn’t say it was inconspicuous or comfortable, just that it would fit in my pocket if I need it to.
Posted By: Mickey Moose

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 02/16/24 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by wp75169
Don’t be asking for pictures of another man’s pants.

lol facepalm.jpg
Posted By: Mickey Moose

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 02/16/24 04:41 PM

Originally Posted by Biscuit
I didn’t say it was inconspicuous or comfortable, just that it would fit in my pocket if I need it to.

Gotcha, thanks.
Posted By: Smokey Bear

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 02/16/24 06:03 PM

Originally Posted by Biscuit
Originally Posted by Mickey Moose
Originally Posted by Biscuit
I absolutely love my Sigp365x macro - holds a bunch and will fit in my pocket if I need it to

A 365 X Macro in your pocket? Other than baggy shorts I don't know that I could do that and have it be inconspicuous and comfortable if it would even fit. How about a picture? Maybe I'll learn something and have another option.

Thanks.


I didn’t say it was inconspicuous or comfortable, just that it would fit in my pocket if I need it to.


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Posted By: exoticbob

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 02/16/24 06:32 PM

Been happy with the older ruger lc9. Think it’s the ec9s now. Worth comparing anyways.
Posted By: 603Country

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 02/20/24 03:43 PM

Update: I think I will go with the FN Reflex 9mm, if and when I can get one with the manual safety. I don’t know if that is available right now, and have not been able to find out.
Posted By: Biscuit

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 02/20/24 10:03 PM

Originally Posted by 603Country
Update: I think I will go with the FN Reflex 9mm, if and when I can get one with the manual safety. I don’t know if that is available right now, and have not been able to find out.


Post up a pic when you score one sir
Posted By: bluetopper

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 02/25/24 09:18 PM

Ruger EC9s. I have two of them. The trigger is much improved over the LC9s.
Posted By: jsteve

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 02/25/24 11:18 PM

Originally Posted by bluetopper
Ruger EC9s. I have two of them. The trigger is much improved over the LC9s.

Both are s...striker fired
LC9s has drift adjustable rear sight, EC9s fixed rear.
LC9s blued, EC9s black oxide.
Posted By: 603Country

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 02/26/24 01:45 PM

The FN Reflex, that I probably will buy, is hammer fired. Supposedly has a better trigger than the 365, which is sort of the bad news. The trigger is light enough that I want the version with the manual safety. That version isn’t available yet.
Posted By: QuitShootinYoungBucks

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 02/26/24 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by 603Country
Update: I think I will go with the FN Reflex 9mm, if and when I can get one with the manual safety. I don’t know if that is available right now, and have not been able to find out.


Looking forward to your report-I don't need one, but I want one!
Posted By: 603Country

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 02/26/24 05:34 PM

Truthfully, I really don’t need one either. I have the small 380 and a full sized 9 mm, but I want something sort of in the middle that’s a 9mm. I had a 380 EZ, but sold it. I felt like the grip safety was detrimental to use in a fast and bad situation. Too many women shooters learning here at the ranch had user problems with that grip safety, saying “I can’t make it shoot”. So, out with that one. And, I hate to reload 380. So, 9mm is where I’m going. The Reflex supposedly has a better trigger than the 365, making it easier to shoot accurately. But with that light trigger, I want the thumb safety.
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Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 02/26/24 09:28 PM

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Posted By: ccoker

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 02/26/24 10:34 PM

Love the Sig P365. Had several people buy one after shooting it
Posted By: Brother in-law

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 02/27/24 12:11 AM

I had the pleasure ( not) of shooting the 365 with the built in the slide sights. I would never recommend those bs sights to anyone. Trash
Posted By: patriot07

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 02/27/24 01:09 AM

I've been looking around for a while. Finally went back to a pistol I first shot 15 years ago - the Sig P239. Put a Hogue grip on it and shot a tiny little group today. Just picked it up over the weekend. I think this is going to be mine and my wife's carry gun for a long time. Been looking around for a good while - Equalizer, Glock 43, Shield, bunch of others.
Posted By: skinnerback

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 02/27/24 01:38 AM

Originally Posted by ccoker
Love the Sig P365. Had several people buy one after shooting it



Yep. I've bought 2 of them. I personally love a thumb safety.
Posted By: texaspatriot.308

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 02/28/24 03:46 PM

I dont care for stryker fired pistols....I have several small carry 9mms. My favorite to carry is my Smith and Wesson CSX. Kinda like a mini 1911.
Posted By: RANGERRONG

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 02/29/24 12:41 AM

glock 19
Posted By: huck18

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 02/29/24 09:46 PM

P365 for the win
Posted By: Huntindad

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 03/01/24 02:26 AM

Shoot what you are comfortable with.
Posted By: The Dude Abides

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 03/01/24 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by RANGERRONG
glock 19

Glock 19 is a great gun but I would not put it in the Small" category. Midsize at best.
Posted By: 603Country

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 03/01/24 08:12 PM

Just to be clear, I have no intention to buy a Glock. And no S&W with a grip safety. I like the size, weight, and ammo capacity of the 365 and the FN Reflex. When somebody has a Reflex with the manual safety, I plan to compare the two and buy the one I like best. Based on what Imhave read and videos of comparisons of the two pistols, they are very similar in most every way, with the trigger pull being better on the Reflex. And the Reflex trigger is light and maybe too light for a pistol with no manual safety, which is why I want that manual safety.

No way am I sticking a light trigger pistol down in a front pocket anywhere near ‘Big Ed’.
Posted By: Greg

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 03/01/24 11:53 PM

Big Ed roflmao
Posted By: RANGERRONG

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 03/01/24 11:56 PM

Glock 19 is a small gun when your 6'9'' 370 lbs .
Posted By: Gumbeaux

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 03/02/24 03:02 AM

Desert Eagle is a small gun for Sasquatch.

And I thought I was a big dude.
Posted By: bigjoe8565

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 03/07/24 04:59 AM

Love my Shield and Shield Plus.
Posted By: Eagle 1

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 03/27/24 06:35 PM

I've had the Sig 365, a Hellcat, and a 43X but nothing shoots better than my Glock 26.
Posted By: 603Country

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 03/27/24 08:28 PM

Still waiting for an FN Reflex with a manual safety, which isn’t yet available.
Posted By: 71Rcode

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 03/27/24 11:54 PM

Ruger Max9 12+1 pocket carry. Very accurate and reliable. Also a LCP 380 Max carrier.
Posted By: GasGuzzler

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 03/28/24 10:55 AM

Just picked up a second Shield. Yes, they only hold 8.
Posted By: chalet

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 03/28/24 05:56 PM

I have been carrying an XDS9 for a few years. Figured out that while I shoot the pistol decent it always feels like I am having to work to get a good grip. Shot my brothers 365xl last weekend and points better naturally for me and I shot it a lot better right off the bat than the XDS I have been shooting for years.

So now thanks to Grabagun I have a 365XL for EDC. Just need to find a couple good holsters.



Posted By: DeckArtist

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 04/21/24 12:45 AM

The only thing that would make my Kimber Micro 9 ESV better for me is for them to make it a double stack. I have tried several other carry pistols, but this one fits me the best.
Posted By: TPACK

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 04/21/24 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by bluetopper
Ruger EC9s. I have two of them. The trigger is much improved over the LC9s.


I went into Academy last week to buy a Ruger EC9S. I ended up with a Taurus G3C though because of how it felt in my hands and I didn`t care for the safety on the Ruger or the mag release. I had seen several videos on the Taurus and all good reviews. Hopefully I won`t be disappointed and I saved a few hundred bucks. I also had to wait behind 2 other guys' that were also buying Taurus pistols. The Academy salesperson said they sold lots of Taurus pistols. Surprising. I`m curious how it will compare to my Springfield XDM 3.8.

Posted By: KRoyal

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 04/21/24 06:06 PM

I’m really liking my PSA Dagger Micro. Can get the C1 slide for integrated slide comp (g48 footprint) or the regular for the g43x footprint. Factory mags are 15 rounds of goodness. They all come factory milled for optic if you choose to run one too.

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Posted By: hawk

Re: Best small 9mm pistol - 04/21/24 06:12 PM

I really like the CZ P10 guns.
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