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PSA Marlin 336

Posted By: Blackout Bill

PSA Marlin 336 - 04/27/23 07:48 PM

Bass Pro Grapevine has a new Ruger made Marlin 336. List $1049. Sure is nice. A little rich for me and surprised they had it.

If anyone is looking you should probably move fast.
Posted By: jhenderson

Re: PSA Marlin 336 - 04/27/23 08:22 PM

Seeing them pop up for sale on gun trader and shockingly not over priced yet
Posted By: Treinta-Treinta

Re: PSA Marlin 336 - 04/27/23 08:44 PM

Folk gotta face it. It was a low priced working man’s rifle. They aren’t worth what is being asked now…Period.

The ammo is no longer readily available on every shelf, it’s ballistics are not swuft, and accuracy ain’t all there.

Every one of you here remember when it carried a pawn shop price of $160 and walmart was slam full of ammo.

And I’m a lever fanatic
Posted By: patriot07

Re: PSA Marlin 336 - 04/27/23 09:11 PM

$1000 for a lever action is comical
Posted By: Hudbone

Re: PSA Marlin 336 - 04/27/23 09:36 PM

Originally Posted by patriot07
$1000 for a lever action is comical


Check out the 45-70's
Posted By: Blackout Bill

Re: PSA Marlin 336 - 04/27/23 10:00 PM

Originally Posted by patriot07
$1000 for a lever action is comical


I get it and wouldn’t even consider it. Although people, no one I know, are buying them.
Posted By: Treinta-Treinta

Re: PSA Marlin 336 - 04/27/23 11:17 PM

I’m specifically talking about the blued 30-30 336 marlin
Posted By: jhenderson

Re: PSA Marlin 336 - 04/27/23 11:31 PM

I’m sure the quality is better but that’s a hard sell for me still.
Posted By: angus1956

Re: PSA Marlin 336 - 04/28/23 02:18 AM

I have my JM stamped 336 from 1974 and my Dad's Winchester 94 from 1950, both are safe queens. Very nice guns but for shooting and hunting there are much better calibers.
Posted By: txtrophy85

Re: PSA Marlin 336 - 04/28/23 03:12 AM

Originally Posted by Treinta-Treinta
Folk gotta face it. It was a low priced working man’s rifle. They aren’t worth what is being asked now…Period.

The ammo is no longer readily available on every shelf, it’s ballistics are not swuft, and accuracy ain’t all there.

Every one of you here remember when it carried a pawn shop price of $160 and walmart was slam full of ammo.

And I’m a lever fanatic


Scarcity. What was once low priced and readily available firearm was taken away then reintroduced as limited product at a premium price.

I do think the new Ruger Marlins carry much nicer wood and bluing than previous models.

For a long time my dads only rifle was a Glenfield 336 with a cheap 4x scope that he bought from K-Mart. Low priced, good enough for 50-75 yard feeder shots and it was easy to shoot. It was the Remington 870 express of the rifle world.

When I was a kid, lots of kids got them as their first rifles. My guess why is because they were cheap, because they make lousy kids rifles
Posted By: GusWayne

Re: PSA Marlin 336 - 04/28/23 03:38 AM

Hard pass
Posted By: Smokey Bear

Re: PSA Marlin 336 - 04/28/23 11:53 AM

I will probably buy one of the Ruger-Marlin’s. Price is at or below what a clean used one is selling for today. If Ruger’s track record is any indication, their quality control will be on top of what they produce. Maybe someone that knows history can tell us if the 30WCF is the first smokeless powder rifle cartridge that was produced for the masses.
Posted By: GasGuzzler

Re: PSA Marlin 336 - 04/29/23 12:16 PM

30WCF was black powder, right?. .30-30 Win (same thing really) is smokeless.

Same goes for .32WCF versus .32-20 and all the others like it.

My Waffle Top isn't leaving home for a measly $1000 nor would I buy a new one for four digits ... no matter the cartridge.
Posted By: Smokey Bear

Re: PSA Marlin 336 - 04/29/23 12:40 PM

Per my research 30-30 was the first cartridge designed for and exclusively loaded with smokeless powder. Winchester called it the 30 Winchester Smokeless. Introduced in 1895. Headstamp was “30 WCF” for Winchester Center Fire. Marlin immediately chambered lever guns in 30 WCF but did not want to give Winchester free advertising. They called it 30-30. (30 caliber and 30 grains of smokeless powder). 30-30 stuck.
Posted By: GasGuzzler

Re: PSA Marlin 336 - 04/29/23 01:14 PM

Nice! Thanks for actually looking it up. I thought it was 30 caliber and 30 grains of black powder since the the .30-20 was .32 caliber and 20 grains black powder ... and Colt didn't want to put Winchester's name on their pistols and rifles.
Posted By: J.G.

Re: PSA Marlin 336 - 04/29/23 02:07 PM

For that price, it would be good to be chambered in .308 Win.

But, there are people stupid enough to load hollow point, or FMJ bullets in a tube magazine.
Posted By: texjam

Re: PSA Marlin 336 - 04/29/23 08:41 PM

Not now.
Posted By: RevolverFan

Re: PSA Marlin 336 - 04/30/23 12:48 AM

Bout the same price as any revolver these days. Bet it’ll sell. Glad I got mine 399 at academy couple years back
Posted By: Texas Dan

Re: PSA Marlin 336 - 04/30/23 05:45 PM

Originally Posted by patriot07
$1000 for a lever action is comical


What about $400 for a cooler?
Posted By: 603Country

Re: PSA Marlin 336 - 04/30/23 07:37 PM

I had a 336T in 35 Remington. Dad bought 336s for himself and us two sons, and I think the cost was $68 each in 1962 or 1963. It was a great short range deer caliber, but limited to 150 to 200 yards. That pushed me to my first 270. I wish I had my old 336T back, but would not spend $1000+ for a new one.
Posted By: Mickey Moose

Re: PSA Marlin 336 - 04/30/23 08:36 PM

Originally Posted by Texas Dan
Originally Posted by patriot07
$1000 for a lever action is comical

Much like $400 for a cooler.

Except there are still $100 (new) coolers? Are there still $250 (new) lever actions?
Posted By: Mickey Moose

Re: PSA Marlin 336 - 04/30/23 08:37 PM

Originally Posted by 603Country
I had a 336T in 35 Remington. Dad bought 336s for himself and us two sons, and I think the cost was $68 each in 1962 or 1963. It was a great short range deer caliber, but limited to 150 to 200 yards. That pushed me to my first 270. I wish I had my old 336T back, but would not spend $1000+ for a new one.

Assuming these 1962 or 3 rifles are in at least excellent condition what are they worth?
Posted By: Mickey Moose

Re: PSA Marlin 336 - 04/30/23 08:46 PM

I bought a new Marlin 1895 SBL last year. The MSRP, I believe, was $1395. Now $1479. To those saying these prices are ridiculous and that you paid some super cheap price decades ago... that was decades ago. I have a brand new rifle that was made to a higher standard. And your old rifle, now selling used, may not be priced much different.

Or maybe I got ripped off. You decide. We know what I decided. And that's to get a new gun and support the gun industry.

RevolverFan also mentioned revolvers. I bought my first last year. I think MSRP was around $900. Maybe I got screwed again. Though I supported the gun industry.
Posted By: txtrophy85

Re: PSA Marlin 336 - 05/01/23 04:23 AM

Originally Posted by Texas Dan
Originally Posted by patriot07
$1000 for a lever action is comical


What about $400 for a cooler?


When you need it and don’t have it, you sing a different tune
Posted By: GasGuzzler

Re: PSA Marlin 336 - 05/01/23 11:34 AM

Originally Posted by Mickey Moose
Originally Posted by 603Country
I had a 336T in 35 Remington. Dad bought 336s for himself and us two sons, and I think the cost was $68 each in 1962 or 1963. It was a great short range deer caliber, but limited to 150 to 200 yards. That pushed me to my first 270. I wish I had my old 336T back, but would not spend $1000+ for a new one.

Assuming these 1962 or 3 rifles are in at least excellent condition what are they worth?

Texans (336T) were almost $90 new. That's $90 instead of $60, just like today ... $900 instead of $600 in modern dollars. So it's about the same as always if you add a little greater inflation.

The Texans in decent shape are worth about $1000 now because they were a special model.
Posted By: Texas Dan

Re: PSA Marlin 336 - 05/01/23 02:56 PM

Originally Posted by Mickey Moose
I bought a new Marlin 1895 SBL last year. The MSRP, I believe, was $1395. Now $1479. To those saying these prices are ridiculous and that you paid some super cheap price decades ago... that was decades ago. I have a brand new rifle that was made to a higher standard. And your old rifle, now selling used, may not be priced much different.

Or maybe I got ripped off. You decide. We know what I decided. And that's to get a new gun and support the gun industry.

RevolverFan also mentioned revolvers. I bought my first last year. I think MSRP was around $900. Maybe I got screwed again. Though I supported the gun industry.


Thankfully, we now have YouTube where we can get third-party reviews to help us identify differences in quality between different brands and models of firearms. While some do a better job than others at this, they all have merit when it comes to deciding what you're getting for your hard earned money.
Posted By: Smokey Bear

Re: PSA Marlin 336 - 05/01/23 05:52 PM

In today’s market and economy, we are paying twice what we paid 3 years ago for most firearms, ammo, and reloading components. Factor in a rifle that had been out of production 4-5 years, with the last several years of poor quality made by Remington. Then add Ruger’s reputation on top of that and, at least for me, the price is lower than I anticipated. If your not a lever gun fan this rifle will not appeal to you anymore than the old ones did. On the other hand, if you want one to shoot the snot out of, a new rifle with 100% of the barrel life, and no wear is appealing. If you are drawn to the self sufficiency of casting your own bullets, the 30-30 is a caliber that you don’t give up anything compared to jacketed bullets. If you just have to shoot distances further than 200 yards, you can safely load and shoot higher BC Bullets than the traditional flat nosed Bullets. When doing this, you are limited to a two shot. One in the barrel and one in the magazine, but that is not what lever actions do well, and you’re better served with a bolt action.
Posted By: 603Country

Re: PSA Marlin 336 - 05/01/23 07:44 PM

Don’t forget that Marlin had offered a 307 Marlin caliber. A rimmed version of the 308, but I think less powerful that the 308 due to action limitations.
Posted By: breadman

Re: PSA Marlin 336 - 05/02/23 10:29 AM

Originally Posted by 603Country
Don’t forget that Marlin had offered a 307 Marlin caliber. A rimmed version of the 308, but I think less powerful that the 308 due to action limitations.

also in the last years of marlin they offered the 308 marlin express caliber , it was close to the 308win or was suposed to be .
Posted By: GasGuzzler

Re: PSA Marlin 336 - 05/02/23 11:28 AM

Must compare apples to apples.
Posted By: slow944

Re: PSA Marlin 336 - 05/05/23 12:53 AM

I got lucky a couple of weeks ago. I walked into a pawn shop after my round of golf and there on the rack was a 83 Marlin 336 RS in 30-30 for $650. I got them down to $600 out the door. Shoots lights out.
Posted By: Sneaky

Re: PSA Marlin 336 - 05/05/23 04:21 AM

Originally Posted by slow944
I got lucky a couple of weeks ago. I walked into a pawn shop after my round of golf and there on the rack was a 83 Marlin 336 RS in 30-30 for $650. I got them down to $600 out the door. Shoots lights out.


I’ve shot a couple 336’s that were pre-Remington, and I was very impressed with their accuracy.
Posted By: Treinta-Treinta

Re: PSA Marlin 336 - 05/12/23 01:10 AM

I wish my grandpa was still alive, he wouldn’t believe it. All the things that were unique to us poor folk and mocked by the elite is all flipped upside down and now I can eat steak cheaper than chicken wings or brisket, lobster instead of crawdads, and shoot a Premium Winchester or Browning Bolt action cheaper than the Marlin 336. I was eating in one joint that had oyster and a sausage menus like fine wine, I ordered a steak.

Might be another verse to the Randy Travis song “better class of losers”
Posted By: Texas Dan

Re: PSA Marlin 336 - 05/12/23 01:53 PM

I think the last new Ruger-made Marlin that Burnett and Sons in College Station had posted online earlier this week sold in less than a couple hours. And the one they posted just a few weeks back sold within 30 minutes of the store opening.
Posted By: 2000cbr929

Re: PSA Marlin 336 - 05/12/23 02:12 PM

I carry the 1895 sbl in 45-70 everywhere at my place... While feeding cows in my rig I often see pigs, and even winging them with the 45-70 is bad news ... It is a pig slayer and fast shooter.
Posted By: GasGuzzler

Re: PSA Marlin 336 - 05/20/23 10:02 AM

The idiocy has started here now. Why would someone accept trades if they needed to sell? $1550? I say sell it on GunBroker if you want to make a profit.

*removed link to THF ad
Posted By: QuitShootinYoungBucks

Re: PSA Marlin 336 - 05/20/23 11:04 AM

Originally Posted by GasGuzzler
The idiocy has started here now. Why would someone accept trades if they needed to sell? $1550? I say sell it on GunBroker if you want to make a profit.



CLICK HERE FOR NEW RUGER MARLIN WTS


Yeah, I don’t support gun-traders on here, but he pays the same as me so he gets to post.
Posted By: GasGuzzler

Re: PSA Marlin 336 - 05/20/23 11:46 AM

I get it. It's not against the rules ... it's just that he says he got another gun before this one came in so he needs to sell for more than MSRP then goes and says he'll take trades?

My post was not so much about the ad as it was to show the mentality of the new Ruger Marlins.
Posted By: upsslim

Re: PSA Marlin 336 - 05/20/23 12:41 PM

I was 14 when I bought my first rifle. It was a Marlin 30-30. I bought it at Gibsons. It cost me a weeks salary. $75.00 That was in 1963.
Posted By: Texas Dan

Re: PSA Marlin 336 - 05/20/23 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by upsslim
I was 14 when I bought my first rifle. It was a Marlin 30-30. I bought it at Gibsons. It cost me a weeks salary. $75.00 That was in 1963.


That would equate to roughly $740 today.
Posted By: 10 Gauge

Re: PSA Marlin 336 - 05/28/23 06:34 AM

Originally Posted by Treinta-Treinta
I wish my grandpa was still alive, he wouldn’t believe it. All the things that were unique to us poor folk and mocked by the elite is all flipped upside down and now I can eat steak cheaper than chicken wings or brisket, lobster instead of crawdads, and shoot a Premium Winchester or Browning Bolt action cheaper than the Marlin 336. I was eating in one joint that had oyster and a sausage menus like fine wine, I ordered a steak.

Might be another verse to the Randy Travis song “better class of losers”


cheers

I always felt like the Marlin 336Y was a great bargain. Was what, like $400 just a short few years ago. Seemed to me like it was a much nicer gun than a plastic stocked Ruger American or a Mossberg Patriot, etc. Well look at them now. I want a Ruger factory 336 but for about a thousand bucks, i would sooner pick up an AR10. Every time I pull the trigger on a 30/30 I cringe thinking about the ammo shortage.

Ammo shortage is pretty much behind us, but I don’t think the 30/30 supply will ever fully recover
Posted By: GasGuzzler

Re: PSA Marlin 336 - 05/28/23 09:03 AM

The 336Y is/was the youth LOP version. As such it was cheaper than others.

The 336W was the "cheap" full LOP version at a street price of $389 when on sale about five years ago. Now one value guide says: "The used value of a MARLIN 336W rifle has risen $36.23 dollars over the past 12 months to a price of $727.42 ."

When I bought my collector grade 1951 waffle top here in 2017 for a lot less than that, the ad said "this isn't a run of the mill 336W you get at Walmart for $400". I never thought it would more than double in value. Plus I have an out of production but sought after Ranch Dog mold, Redding dies, and a Redfield peep sight that has also doubled in value.

Everyone shooting .30-30 WIN (or .357, .38 Special, .44 Magnum/Special, .45 Colt, etc.) should be loading their own.

Who has seen the spike in price for an original Marlin leather sling? Good ones are selling for over $100. Worn ones over $50.
Posted By: texfork

Re: PSA Marlin 336 - 05/29/23 02:50 PM

Mark me down for a Ruger made Marlin model 1895 SBL in 45-70
Posted By: GusWayne

Re: PSA Marlin 336 - 05/29/23 03:35 PM

Has anybody been able to post any range reports yet?

I am curious on their accuracy
Posted By: Texas Dan

Re: PSA Marlin 336 - 05/29/23 08:25 PM

Originally Posted by GusWayne
Has anybody been able to post any range reports yet?

I am curious on their accuracy


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