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Shotgun barrel length question

Posted By: txbowhunt7

Shotgun barrel length question - 09/17/19 09:56 PM

Alright experts, my wife is wanting to upgrade from her youth model 20 gauge to a compact 12 gauge. The bulk of the hunting will be for ducks. I've found a few compact 12 gauges with the same length of pull as her youth gun, but the question is would she be losing any benefits by having a 24" barrel vs a 26" such as effective range and pattern?
Posted By: David Maas

Re: Shotgun barrel length question - 09/17/19 10:24 PM

None, other than weight & balance, she will probably never notice the change.
Posted By: kmon11

Re: Shotgun barrel length question - 09/17/19 10:59 PM

Originally Posted by David Maas
None, other than weight & balance, she will probably never notice the change.


Agree
Posted By: Adchunts

Re: Shotgun barrel length question - 09/17/19 11:09 PM

A 24” barrel will swing a little “snappier” than a 26”. Shot pattern will not change appreciably with similar choke. The biggest difference I see is noise in the blind. Shorter barrels equal more/louder report. I like a fairly long barrel for blind work.
Posted By: txbowhunt7

Re: Shotgun barrel length question - 09/17/19 11:14 PM

Originally Posted by Adchunts
A 24” barrel will swing a little “snappier” than a 26”. Shot pattern will not change appreciably with similar choke. The biggest difference I see is noise in the blind. Shorter barrels equal more/louder report. I like a fairly long barrel for blind work.


Thats what I wanted to make sure of. I forgot to add in the OP that she's only 5'1" and 105#, so she likes a shorter gun. I'm currently looking at the SX4 compact which will only be 1" longer than her current youth 20 gauge. I'm ok with it being louder as long as she has a gun she's more comfortable with
Posted By: Buzzsaw

Re: Shotgun barrel length question - 09/17/19 11:32 PM

i had a 24" Super Black Eagle and a 20" Benelli M-2, they were killers. For your wife I wouldn't suggest the Benelli, , the recoil is harder with them. Look at the great Winchester, Remington s and Mossberg's, all gas operated.
Posted By: txbowhunt7

Re: Shotgun barrel length question - 09/17/19 11:37 PM

Buzzsaw, we're currently leaning towards the Winchester SX4 compact
Posted By: txtrophy85

Re: Shotgun barrel length question - 09/17/19 11:42 PM

For decoying ducks I would be fine with a 24” barrel’d shotgun personally.


For waterfowl I shoot a Beretta A300 outlander in some type of real tree camo.

I am a shotgun snob and I think this is one of the best duck guns made. It comes with an adjustable stock ( shim inserts ) for length of pull. Also they have a 24” barrel option.

I’ve owned or shot about every common shotgun out there, owned some nice O/U’s and the outlander is my favorite waterfowl gun.

I think it paid $750 for it new and honestly think it’s value is worth double.


http://www.beretta.com/en-us/a300-outlander-camo-max5/
Posted By: Nogalus Prairie

Re: Shotgun barrel length question - 09/17/19 11:56 PM

Originally Posted by txtrophy85
For decoying ducks I would be fine with a 24” barrel’d shotgun personally.


For waterfowl I shoot a Beretta A300 outlander in some type of real tree camo.

I am a shotgun snob and I think this is one of the best duck guns made. It comes with an adjustable stock ( shim inserts ) for length of pull. Also they have a 24” barrel option.

I’ve owned or shot about every common shotgun out there, owned some nice O/U’s and the outlander is my favorite waterfowl gun.

I think it paid $750 for it new and honestly think it’s value is worth double.


http://www.beretta.com/en-us/a300-outlander-camo-max5/


I’m going to have to remember this. May be in the market for a waterfowl gun someday.
Posted By: P_102

Re: Shotgun barrel length question - 09/18/19 12:05 AM

Originally Posted by kmon1
Originally Posted by David Maas
None, other than weight & balance, she will probably never notice the change.


Agree

+2
Posted By: N.Tx

Re: Shotgun barrel length question - 09/18/19 01:26 AM

Originally Posted by Nogalus Prairie
Originally Posted by txtrophy85
For decoying ducks I would be fine with a 24” barrel’d shotgun personally.


For waterfowl I shoot a Beretta A300 outlander in some type of real tree camo.

I am a shotgun snob and I think this is one of the best duck guns made. It comes with an adjustable stock ( shim inserts ) for length of pull. Also they have a 24” barrel option.

I’ve owned or shot about every common shotgun out there, owned some nice O/U’s and the outlander is my favorite waterfowl gun.

I think it paid $750 for it new and honestly think it’s value is worth double.


http://www.beretta.com/en-us/a300-outlander-camo-max5/


I’m going to have to remember this. May be in the market for a waterfowl gun someday.


Love my A300. Picked up a black synthetic at Dunn's for $550 last season.
Posted By: DocHorton

Re: Shotgun barrel length question - 09/18/19 05:46 AM

Originally Posted by David Maas
None, other than weight & balance, she will probably never notice the change.


Except the recoil. Sounds like your wife is pretty little...make sure she shoots a box of 12 ga before you buy one and she's ok with the recoil.

Personally I'd keep her in a 20 ga if she shoots it well.
Posted By: txbowhunt7

Re: Shotgun barrel length question - 09/18/19 12:23 PM

She shot my buddies shortened 12 gauge at clays a lot last season and shot it like a champ
Posted By: David Maas

Re: Shotgun barrel length question - 09/18/19 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by DocHorton
Originally Posted by David Maas
None, other than weight & balance, she will probably never notice the change.


Except the recoil. Sounds like your wife is pretty little...make sure she shoots a box of 12 ga before you buy one and she's ok with the recoil.

Personally I'd keep her in a 20 ga if she shoots it well.



The weight difference will make the recoil mute, a lightweight 20ga has more recoil than it's 12ga equivalent

I would suggest a 12ga Franchi Affinity compact, you can get it in 24" and 26" barrels, or if you want, you can buy the full size version and the compact stock is $105 giving you more options.
Posted By: Hunt Dog

Re: Shotgun barrel length question - 09/18/19 02:54 PM

I hunt ducks with my Browning Citori lightning 20 ga. Use 3" mag #4 steel and I drop birds just as well as guys with 12 ga guns.
Think about shells, not a new gun.
Posted By: txtrophy85

Re: Shotgun barrel length question - 09/18/19 03:13 PM

Originally Posted by DocHorton
Originally Posted by David Maas
None, other than weight & balance, she will probably never notice the change.


Except the recoil. Sounds like your wife is pretty little...make sure she shoots a box of 12 ga before you buy one and she's ok with the recoil.

Personally I'd keep her in a 20 ga if she shoots it well.

Originally Posted by Hunt Dog
I hunt ducks with my Browning Citori lightning 20 ga. Use 3" mag #4 steel and I drop birds just as well as guys with 12 ga guns.
Think about shells, not a new gun.



I hunt dove and upland game exclusively with a 20 and I've shot my share of ducks with a 20 gauge as well, but if its gonna be a dedicated waterfowl gun, I would advise a 12. The extra capacity of the 12 will help put more pellets in the bird. My 20 gauge load only has a 7/8th oz. of shot in No. 4. Its not the power that's an issue its the number of pellets hitting the vitals.


My outlander with a load of 1 1/4 oz. of 3" black cloud isn't bad at all....my 12 year old could shoot it.

A 12 gauge semi auto isn't nearly as robust recoil wise as a pump or O/U 12 gauge
Posted By: huck18

Re: Shotgun barrel length question - 09/18/19 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by E.TX.JMart
Originally Posted by Nogalus Prairie
Originally Posted by txtrophy85
For decoying ducks I would be fine with a 24” barrel’d shotgun personally.


For waterfowl I shoot a Beretta A300 outlander in some type of real tree camo.

I am a shotgun snob and I think this is one of the best duck guns made. It comes with an adjustable stock ( shim inserts ) for length of pull. Also they have a 24” barrel option.

I’ve owned or shot about every common shotgun out there, owned some nice O/U’s and the outlander is my favorite waterfowl gun.

I think it paid $750 for it new and honestly think it’s value is worth double.


http://www.beretta.com/en-us/a300-outlander-camo-max5/


I’m going to have to remember this. May be in the market for a waterfowl gun someday.


Love my A300. Picked up a black synthetic at Dunn's for $550 last season.


Yep. I own a $1500 Super Black Eagle II, it sits at home and I mainly hunt with my synthetic A300. I paid $550 as well. It's the best value on the market for a semi-auto shotgun.

$550 plus $15.00 in krylon spray paint and you have a semi-auto that's comparable to many guns over $1,000.
Posted By: DocHorton

Re: Shotgun barrel length question - 09/19/19 03:55 AM

Originally Posted by David Maas
Originally Posted by DocHorton
Originally Posted by David Maas
None, other than weight & balance, she will probably never notice the change.


Except the recoil. Sounds like your wife is pretty little...make sure she shoots a box of 12 ga before you buy one and she's ok with the recoil.

Personally I'd keep her in a 20 ga if she shoots it well.



The weight difference will make the recoil mute, a lightweight 20ga has more recoil than it's 12ga equivalent



Not my experience. I have an A400 Xplor 20 ga, the lightest semi-auto on the market as far as I know, and it still has less recoil than my Beretta 12 with a limbsaver and a weighted fore-end.

Neither is bad, but it is noticeable....and I'm not 5'1" and 105 lbs.
Posted By: DocHorton

Re: Shotgun barrel length question - 09/19/19 03:56 AM

Originally Posted by txbowhunt7
She shot my buddies shortened 12 gauge at clays a lot last season and shot it like a champ



up Sounds like she's ready! Let us know what you get.
Posted By: DocHorton

Re: Shotgun barrel length question - 09/19/19 04:41 AM

Looks like a pretty good deal....

https://texashuntingforum.com/forum...80-20ga-short-length-of-pull#Post7607571
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