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.17 hmr VS .22 mag
Posted By: BowHuntinTX
.17 hmr VS .22 mag - 04/29/09 04:34 AM
which one is better?
Main use is going to be small animals (prarie dogs, coons, squirrels, and other critters) and target shooting...
Posted By: Jayrod
Re: .17 hmr VS .22 mag - 04/29/09 04:42 AM
17 all the way. Flatter trajectory and the v-max bullets really do a number on 'em. I just got one a month ago and it is an absolute blast to shoot.
Posted By: BigRon
Re: .17 hmr VS .22 mag - 04/29/09 04:51 AM
I shoot them both and like them both. But, the .17 is my favorite small game round. The flat shooting .17 HMR will make you look good.
Posted By: moderno
Re: .17 hmr VS .22 mag - 04/29/09 05:33 AM
I bought a new Savage 93R17 BTVXP with a walnut thumb hole stock, heavy barrel and accu-trigger. It came with a Simmons 8-Point 3x9 scope mounted on it, which I thought would be junk. But it turned out to be just fine.
Checked it to see if it was boresighted, then shot it at 25 or so yds. to get it on the money. Moved out to 100 and dialed it in, then shot a 5 shot group that you could cover with a nickel.
I was impressed with this rifle, and have killed my fair share of critters with it in the last month.
It shoots the Hornady 17 gr. VERY well. I changed to a box of CCI 17 gr. and the grouping went to 2+ inches so it obviously doesn't like the CCI's. I just got some Winchester 17 gr. but havent had a chance to test them yet. I have been looking for the 20 gr. bullets but haven't seen them anywhere local, but I'm looking for some.
Have any of ya'll seen the 20's I want some.
I bought 20gr. fmj's at walmart in Mckinney
Posted By: moderno
Re: .17 hmr VS .22 mag - 04/29/09 05:53 AM
All they got at walmart here in gonzales is 17's, I might go to Seguin and look for some.
On second thought I'll just go to Cabela's, been wanting to go back anyway and spend some of this welding money.
Posted By: moderno
Re: .17 hmr VS .22 mag - 04/29/09 05:58 AM
I want the 20 gr. V-max not the FMJ's, I like to see the feathers fly.
Posted By: ch1966
Re: .17 hmr VS .22 mag - 04/29/09 06:08 AM
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I want the 20 gr. V-max not the FMJ's, I like to see the feathers fly.
Do they make 20 gr VMax for an HMR?
I bought 500 rounds of the 20 gr Hornady XTPs from Cabela's before Christmas. They were on special for $115 with free shipping. I just came from shooting my Marlin a little while ago. 3/4" groups at 100 yds off the tailgate!
Here's a fat sow coon I headshot a few weeks back:
Posted By: Jayrod
Re: .17 hmr VS .22 mag - 04/29/09 06:33 AM
Dick's in Hurst had hornady 20gr hollow points not too long ago. But the 17gr v-max shoot so well out of mine that I don't need to try anything else.
Posted By: moderno
Re: .17 hmr VS .22 mag - 04/29/09 06:34 AM
Maybe it is Hornady XTP, I just took it for granted that it was a v-max.
Guess I'll know when I see some. LOL
Posted By: moderno
Re: .17 hmr VS .22 mag - 04/29/09 06:44 AM
As good as mine shoots the Hornady 17's, I dont need to shoot anything else either, but having said that I still want to try them.
My freind had some 20's that had a gray polymer tip, and they seemed to have a lot more killing power.
I'm not expecting any more accuracy just more killing power.
Posted By: Jayrod
Re: .17 hmr VS .22 mag - 04/29/09 06:53 AM
I'm not sure if a 3gr difference in bullet weight would be that noticeable considering the drastic reduction in velocity. Mine didn't like the 20gr near as much as the 17gr. And I've yet to have a squirel or rabbit take a step. All head shots of course. That savage is my favorite gun. You'll have to pry that gun away from me. No way I'm selling it ever.
Posted By: moderno
Re: .17 hmr VS .22 mag - 04/29/09 06:57 AM
Nor me mine
Posted By: ilike2hunt2
Re: .17 hmr VS .22 mag - 04/29/09 07:58 AM
If your on a budget the Marlin 917 is outstanding. Mine shoots great. Bout $225 at any walmart with the heavy barrel.
Posted By: txtrophy85
Re: .17 hmr VS .22 mag - 04/29/09 06:19 PM
i liked the .17, had a marlin 917 with a bull barrel that shot fantastic, but i just did't have alot of confidence in that little bullet. I don't shoot raccoons, squirrels, possums or stuff of that nature, so I really did't have a use for it. imo if I was to get another magnum rimfire it would be a .22 mag
Posted By: fowlplayr
Re: .17 hmr VS .22 mag - 04/29/09 06:31 PM
Never shot a .17, but I have had a 22 Mag. since I was a kid. It does everything that I want it to, including killing a few close range hogs, so I never had the desire to buy a 17. IMO - if it's not broke...it can't be fixed.
Posted By: jdickey
Re: .17 hmr VS .22 mag - 04/29/09 06:52 PM
For the most part, the .22mag is less expensive to shoot...anywhere from $3.00-$4.00 difference in price. The .17 will give you greater accuracy at a longer range than the .22mag.
I like them both!
Posted By: FoxTrot
Re: .17 hmr VS .22 mag - 04/29/09 09:20 PM
I absolutely love my 17. My tends to eat the 17 grain better also. It also shoots Hornady's and Remington's better than the cci's. In fact, I will not buy the cci's anymore. I try to stay with the 17 grain Hornadys. I have a 6-24x50 scope on it, so I can really do damage. I can see the pupils of whatever I am shooting!!!!!!
I killed a fox with it 2 years ago. I made a horrible shot and hit her in the stomach. Needless to say, she did not suffer after about 3 steps. It was a pretty gross site to see.
Now, if I could just get my stock back from getting it dipped, then I could continue to have fun with it.
Posted By: RICK O'SHAY
Re: .17 hmr VS .22 mag - 04/29/09 09:31 PM
HANDS DOWN 17HMR
I have both and the 17 is AWSOME!
My first kill with mine was a 60lb sow and a 20lb piglet at 85 yds... talk about a confidence builder
Posted By: KBTXHunter
Re: .17 hmr VS .22 mag - 04/29/09 09:38 PM
I've got a Remington 597 with a laminate stock,heavy barrel. Got a 3x9x40 Leupold on it and i absolutely love it. I shot a buzzard out of the air one day with it. And i aint bullsh**tin either.
Another vote for the 17, love my marlin. Praire dogs and rabbits around the house don't stand a chance against it. Very accurate
Posted By: yukons95
Re: .17 hmr VS .22 mag - 04/30/09 08:05 AM
for hunting the 22 mag all the way!!! alot better penetration! i have had 17 bullets just blow up, an no penetration. i love the flatter trajectory, but would still use the 22 mag for hunting. and i own both.
Posted By: Chopped54
Re: .17 hmr VS .22 mag - 04/30/09 05:41 PM
Hunt with my 17hmr, plink with my 22...
Posted By: Ten Six
Re: .17 hmr VS .22 mag - 04/30/09 06:46 PM
Savage 93 w/accutrigger, liked it so much I bought another. The .17gr Vmax Hornady rounds out perform any ammo on the market. Literally holes in holes accuracy.... And if you really want to get that rock-steady shot, get you a bi-pod. I guarantee youll never look back
Posted By: BowHuntinTX
Re: .17 hmr VS .22 mag - 04/30/09 11:24 PM
that's exactly what i am looking for... I'm going to buy one new if i cant find a (lightly) used one in the next week or so...
Posted By: Jayrod
Re: .17 hmr VS .22 mag - 05/01/09 02:13 AM
I bought my savage 93 about a month ago and my dad liked mine so much he went and bought one the next day. lol imo the 17hmr is one of the best calibers ever made.
Posted By: HWY_MAN
Re: .17 hmr VS .22 mag - 05/01/09 04:11 AM
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I shot a buzzard out of the air one day with it. And i aint bullsh**tin either.
Let's hope you are.
17 if only for the animals listed i really rather have the 22 mag though
Posted By: furdown
Re: .17 hmr VS .22 mag - 05/04/09 04:12 AM
22 mag over the hummer anyday with 40 gr hollow points
Posted By: Ten Six
Re: .17 hmr VS .22 mag - 05/04/09 06:56 AM
I rather have a .17gr Vmax than a .40gr hollow point. I can put that Vmax anywhere I want to out to 200yds..
Posted By: Hooper21
Re: .17 hmr VS .22 mag - 05/04/09 07:19 PM
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For the most part, the .22mag is less expensive to shoot...anywhere from $3.00-$4.00 difference in price. The .17 will give you greater accuracy at a longer range than the .22mag.
Not necessarily. If you compare the vmaxes, ie premium bullets, then the 17 is cheaper than the 22 by a few bucks.
Posted By: RonKaye
Re: .17 hmr VS .22 mag - 05/05/09 12:44 AM
I had the Marlin 983SS in .22WMR, and it was a sweet shooter. Gave it to my best friend, and he loves the thing. I gained possession of a 917SS heavy barrel in .17 when my son moved to Alaska - couldn't take the thing through Canada, and was already shipping a bunch of other guns. Slapped a 3~9x40 Simmons Master Series on it ($24 from Sportsmansguide), and it's a tack driver... unless a squirrel farts across the bullet's path. The little bullets don't like wind. At all. .22WMR wasn't quite as sensitive.
All told, I'd probably prefer the .22WMR for anything much bigger than a coon.
Posted By: jkmccoy11
Re: .17 hmr VS .22 mag - 05/05/09 04:57 AM
17 is my favorite gun to shoot and trust me i have plenty to choose from farthest kill [censored] ive made was 300 yards on a turtle savage and their accutrigger all the way also try a limbsaver barrel de resinator shrunk my groups by a quarter inch at 100 yards
Posted By: DavKind
Re: .17 hmr VS .22 mag - 05/05/09 09:32 PM
22 mag inside 100 yrds 17hmr from 100 yrds out to 200 yrds
Posted By: 7mag
Re: .17 hmr VS .22 mag - 05/05/09 10:40 PM
I have both. Last week I finally tried it out on some jackrabbits. My longest shot was at 125 yards. The rabbitt was sitting, facing away from me. The shot went in his lower back, up the front(gutted him) and out the lower jaw. It took the lower jaw out as it exited. This jack went about 50 yards and was still going(making an awful sound), and I shot it 2 more times. One thing about the 17, it left really tiny entrance holes, with almost no blood ect. The exits were a little bigger. The other kicker was I shot most of the jacks 2-3 times to finish them off, even the dismembered jack was shot 3 times. BTW I use the Hornady V Max
Posted By: Txkiller
Re: .17 hmr VS .22 mag - 05/10/09 09:10 AM
Love the .17 but that .22mag always gets the job done
Posted By: BigRon
Re: .17 hmr VS .22 mag - 05/10/09 10:24 PM
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22 mag inside 100 yrds 17hmr from 100 yrds out to 200 yrds
If you can afford both, this is great advice.
Posted By: Longshank
Re: .17 hmr VS .22 mag - 05/10/09 11:38 PM
I have a Cooper 17HMR and an Anschutz 17HMR and they are awesome guns and an awesome round. They are the rimfire equivalent to a centerfire 204...a laser!!