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17 HMR Suppressor Recommendation

Posted By: Stripermania

17 HMR Suppressor Recommendation - 03/19/15 08:18 PM

Can you recommend a suppressor for 17HMR and why?
Construction
Cost
Performance, ie noise reduction
Name recognition, etc....

Thanks,
Posted By: Gone to Texas

Re: 17 HMR Suppressor Recommendation - 03/19/15 08:30 PM

I just order the SilencerCo Sparrow .22 cal suppresser. It will suppress .22, 22 mag, 22 hornet, 17 hmr, 17 wsm, and 5.7mm.

I bought it because I heard it was the best rimfire can out there. How much truth there is to that I am not sure because I have not used it or any other can for that matter. I liked how easy it looked to clean and the different rimfires it could run.
Posted By: DocHorton

Re: 17 HMR Suppressor Recommendation - 03/19/15 08:40 PM

I've used both a Sparrow and an Element on my 17. The Element is quieter on everything. I think I paid about $429 for the Element and like $350 for the Sparrow, but check the prices on Silencershop. If I had to do it over again I would have gotten two Elements. They have a newer model the Element II that looks better than the older model.

Posted By: Gone to Texas

Re: 17 HMR Suppressor Recommendation - 03/19/15 09:04 PM

Originally Posted By: DocHorton
I've used both a Sparrow and an Element on my 17. The Element is quieter on everything. I think I paid about $429 for the Element and like $350 for the Sparrow, but check the prices on Silencershop. If I had to do it over again I would have gotten two Elements. They have a newer model the Element II that looks better than the older model.



I like those rifles, are they both Savages? I was thinking about getting a Savage rimfire. I am torn between the 17 hmr and the 22 mag. How do you like the 17 hmr?
Posted By: DocHorton

Re: 17 HMR Suppressor Recommendation - 03/19/15 10:48 PM

Yes, both Savage 93BTVS....one is 22 Mag, the other is 17 HMR. I love them both. The 17 is explosive on impact, it will straight up shoot tiny groups and I've shot everything from birds to turtles with it. My Dad has killed a bunch of wild dogs and coyotes with his.
Posted By: Varget 7-08

Re: 17 HMR Suppressor Recommendation - 03/19/15 11:24 PM

Guardian 22
Posted By: texaspatriot.308

Re: 17 HMR Suppressor Recommendation - 03/20/15 02:31 AM

.17 hmr needing suppression....you are reading too much gun propoganda on paper or the internet....a waste of money unless you got it.
Posted By: Gone to Texas

Re: 17 HMR Suppressor Recommendation - 03/20/15 02:34 AM

Originally Posted By: DocHorton
Yes, both Savage 93BTVS....one is 22 Mag, the other is 17 HMR. I love them both. The 17 is explosive on impact, it will straight up shoot tiny groups and I've shot everything from birds to turtles with it. My Dad has killed a bunch of wild dogs and coyotes with his.


Nice! I like the range of the 17 hmr. I have read online that it is too small for coyotes but it sounds like your Dad knocks them down fine.
Posted By: WhoDat

Re: 17 HMR Suppressor Recommendation - 03/20/15 02:43 AM

Sparrow is a fine can. I have one of them, along with a Spectre II, and three Pilot 2s.

Sparrow is one of the most versatile cans out there, which is why I bought it. However, being a mono-core design, it does have some FRP. It won't be the quietest first shot around, but subsequent shots will be better.

I also have a Spectre, that I use on another 17hmr. I haven't shot it enough it judge, but I will say that sucker is big and heavy.

My three Pilots are for my 22lr herd. I abosolutely love them for 22lr, as they're much lighter, shorter, cheaper (Pilots were $260 with a $200 AAC credit, when I got them), and as quiet or quieter (for 22lr) as the above two. But they will not do 17hmr.

As mentioned earlier, if I had it to do again, I'd likely have two Elements and three Pilots. But it's all good... Sparrow and Spectre are fine and versatile rimfire cans. I just feel they;re a bit to big and heavy for 22lr. YMMV.

BTW, I am not an AAC can fan-boy. I prefer Sakers on my rifles, and Octanes or Ospreys on my pistols. But AAC is doing something right with the Elements and Pilots, IMOHO, especially when they have the store credit promotions.

Originally Posted By: Gone to Texas
I just order the SilencerCo Sparrow .22 cal suppresser. It will suppress .22, 22 mag, 22 hornet, 17 hmr, 17 wsm, and 5.7mm.

I bought it because I heard it was the best rimfire can out there. How much truth there is to that I am not sure because I have not used it or any other can for that matter. I liked how easy it looked to clean and the different rimfires it could run.
Posted By: DocHorton

Re: 17 HMR Suppressor Recommendation - 03/20/15 04:21 AM

Originally Posted By: texaspatriot.308
.17 hmr needing suppression....you are reading too much gun propoganda on paper or the internet....a waste of money unless you got it.


My 17 is loud but I cut the barrels down to 18", with a suppressor it makes a very noticeable difference and hearing safe. The great thing about some of the rimfire cans is that they can be used on .22 LR, .22 Mag, .17 HMR, 5.7, and .17 WSM. Use it if you got it!
Posted By: DocHorton

Re: 17 HMR Suppressor Recommendation - 03/20/15 04:23 AM

Originally Posted By: Gone to Texas
Originally Posted By: DocHorton
Yes, both Savage 93BTVS....one is 22 Mag, the other is 17 HMR. I love them both. The 17 is explosive on impact, it will straight up shoot tiny groups and I've shot everything from birds to turtles with it. My Dad has killed a bunch of wild dogs and coyotes with his.


Nice! I like the range of the 17 hmr. I have read online that it is too small for coyotes but it sounds like your Dad knocks them down fine.


Yep, it is a very accurate round and it performs surprisingly well. I know that most dogs and yotes he has shot have went "bang, flop".
Posted By: huntandfish

Re: 17 HMR Suppressor Recommendation - 03/20/15 02:28 PM

I also was thinking about a larger rimfire, like a .22 magnum on one of my rimfire suppressors, but i keep thinking the sound of say a .22 mag/ 17 hmr vs. a .223 suppressed would be close in sound as they are both going to be supersonic. Does anyone have two bolt actions to compare the two suppressed? I have a suppressed bolt action with a ton of ammo, so that is holding me back.
Posted By: SingleShot85

Re: 17 HMR Suppressor Recommendation - 03/20/15 02:33 PM

Originally Posted By: texaspatriot.308
.17 hmr needing suppression....you are reading too much gun propaganda on paper or the internet....a waste of money unless you got it.


this has been my experience as well, i don't waste my time treading on my can anymore.....
Posted By: WhoDat

Re: 17 HMR Suppressor Recommendation - 03/20/15 02:51 PM

Gradually, all my guns will be wearing cans, or at least have the option to. I'm not doing this to be a Ninja, and I don't expect Hollywood quiet. I'll sum up my fondness for cans in one word: Tinnitus.

Originally Posted By: texaspatriot.308
.17 hmr needing suppression....you are reading too much gun propoganda on paper or the internet....a waste of money unless you got it.
Posted By: SingleShot85

Re: 17 HMR Suppressor Recommendation - 03/20/15 04:56 PM

nidea .... suppressors only dampen the sound generated by the explosion of gun powder... they do nothing for "sonic boom/crack...." with the .22 mag and 17hmr the majority of the sound is generated above the speed of sound, there is very little to suppress on the detonation side. Could you measure a difference on a meter sure but like i said before its waste because of time it takes to re-zero and bla bla bla...
Posted By: WhoDat

Re: 17 HMR Suppressor Recommendation - 03/20/15 05:10 PM

I will tell you that, with the dozen or so cans that I have, there's a very noticeable difference in comfort. God forbid I unleash an unsupressed 6.8 or .308 from a blind - my ears would be ringing for a long time. When I do the same thing from a rifle wearing a Harvester or Saker, there is zero problem... because the "crack" is coming from a few feet in front of me, and not emanating from inside or very near the enclosed space that I'm in. Same principal with the 17hmr. And yes, I can shoot my 22lrs in the back yard, while the woman and kids are sleeping. My 17hmr would give off a signature crak, so I wouldn't do that. Still, I can shoot a suppressed 17hmr comfortable, without ears on... I just tend to wear them, for comfort's sake, anyhow. heck, my 5.56/6.8/308 etc. are all comfortable to blast off a few rounds, without hearing protection. Still, I usually wear ears when I'm shooting off more than a couple rounds, to keep the hearing that I have.

If you're telling me that a can on a 17hmr doesn't make a difference, I'm betting that you haven't shot one and are just parroting stuff that you've read. Do you own cans?

Originally Posted By: SingleShot85
nidea .... suppressors only dampen the sound generated by the explosion of gun powder... they do nothing for "sonic boom/crack...." with the .22 mag and 17hmr the majority of the sound is generated above the speed of sound, there is very little to suppress on the detonation side. Could you measure a difference on a meter sure but like i said before its waste because of time it takes to re-zero and bla bla bla...
Posted By: ccoker

Re: 17 HMR Suppressor Recommendation - 03/20/15 05:33 PM

I have a Spectre II
I have ran it on 22 pistols and rifles shooting subs and subsonics.
I have also ran it on a 22 mag Savage bolt action.

It is definitely quieter than 556 with a can..

And a L O T quieter than a 22 mag without the can.
I don't think it's much louder than a 22 LR with a can.

I will see if I can get some videos over the weekend.

I really want to bust a small pig with the 22mag suppressed!
Posted By: WhoDat

Re: 17 HMR Suppressor Recommendation - 03/20/15 05:39 PM

I believe that the INDOOR 17hmr test that I saw from SilerncerCo, with the Sparrow, had unsupressd at ~155db, and suppressed at about 125db... I'm guessing the Specre is about the same (I have both cans), though Spectre would have less FRP.

Anything above 140db is unsafe, for any exposure. 130-140 is supposedly safe, for less than a second... 124db safe for 3 seconds, etc. And sound pressure is a lot worse indoors, than outdoors. So yeah, a can does make a difference on a 17hmr...

I think anyone who really shot a 17hmr, with a can, would know that. I think anyone who ever shot any kind of supersonic round, with a can, would suspect that.
Posted By: ccoker

Re: 17 HMR Suppressor Recommendation - 03/20/15 05:42 PM

I would agree with your statements above about "comfort".
Posted By: krmitchell

Re: 17 HMR Suppressor Recommendation - 03/20/15 06:47 PM

Originally Posted By: SingleShot85
nidea .... suppressors only dampen the sound generated by the explosion of gun powder... they do nothing for "sonic boom/crack...." with the .22 mag and 17hmr the majority of the sound is generated above the speed of sound, there is very little to suppress on the detonation side. Could you measure a difference on a meter sure but like i said before its waste because of time it takes to re-zero and bla bla bla...


Anything suppressed makes a difference that is easily noticeable. So, in no way is it a waste of time, or maybe it is just a giant conspiracy from those of us that still use cans while using supersonic ammo.....
Posted By: Stripermania

Re: 17 HMR Suppressor Recommendation - 03/20/15 06:56 PM

Hey DocHorton,

Picture of your 17HMR looks like the one I have. I have the Savage stainless with the heavy barrel but it is not threaded. Does yours came threaded or did you get someone to thread it for you?

Thanks everyone for chiming in.
Posted By: huntandfish

Re: 17 HMR Suppressor Recommendation - 03/20/15 07:39 PM

Thanks for the info ccoker, i also have a spectre II but also have a element 2. i always had a notion about a .22 mag or .22 hornet for busting hogs with one, but was just never sure about the difference between the .223 i have in quietness.
Posted By: WhoDat

Re: 17 HMR Suppressor Recommendation - 03/20/15 07:46 PM

Ha, this is the thing that kind of gets me, as the Internet rumor mill feeds itself. Anyone, and I mean anyone, who has ever shot a super-anything, with a can, would immediately appreciate the difference. It may be hard to tell from the little speakers on your laptop that are playing sound from that YouTube video, but in the flesh the difference is dramatic.

And yeah, that's why so many take off their ears, even when shooting supers.



Originally Posted By: rexmitchell
Originally Posted By: SingleShot85
nidea .... suppressors only dampen the sound generated by the explosion of gun powder... they do nothing for "sonic boom/crack...." with the .22 mag and 17hmr the majority of the sound is generated above the speed of sound, there is very little to suppress on the detonation side. Could you measure a difference on a meter sure but like i said before its waste because of time it takes to re-zero and bla bla bla...


Anything suppressed makes a difference that is easily noticeable. So, in no way is it a waste of time, or maybe it is just a giant conspiracy from those of us that still use cans while using supersonic ammo.....
Posted By: SingleShot85

Re: 17 HMR Suppressor Recommendation - 03/20/15 08:50 PM

totally a conspiracy.... all the youtube videos I've seen are really high quality and some were even in HD and it has to be true because the internet if for educational purposed.......

Anyone of you who even mention any other round other than the 17 and 22. mag are so retarded in your comprehension I can't justify the time it will take to explain how ridiculous your reasoning and ramblings are...

non subsonic rim fire rounds and suppressors are a joke for the phony brave.....
Posted By: DocHorton

Re: 17 HMR Suppressor Recommendation - 03/20/15 09:34 PM

Originally Posted By: SingleShot85
totally a conspiracy.... all the youtube videos I've seen are really high quality and some were even in HD and it has to be true because the internet if for educational purposed.......

Anyone of you who even mention any other round other than the 17 and 22. mag are so retarded in your comprehension I can't justify the time it will take to explain how ridiculous your reasoning and ramblings are...

non subsonic rim fire rounds and suppressors are a joke for the phony brave.....


How many suppressors do you own?
Posted By: DocHorton

Re: 17 HMR Suppressor Recommendation - 03/20/15 09:37 PM

Originally Posted By: Stripermania
Hey DocHorton,

Picture of your 17HMR looks like the one I have. I have the Savage stainless with the heavy barrel but it is not threaded. Does yours came threaded or did you get someone to thread it for you?

Thanks everyone for chiming in.


I had the barrels cut down from 22" to 18" and threaded.
Posted By: SingleShot85

Re: 17 HMR Suppressor Recommendation - 03/20/15 09:52 PM

Originally Posted By: DocHorton
Originally Posted By: SingleShot85
totally a conspiracy.... all the youtube videos I've seen are really high quality and some were even in HD and it has to be true because the internet if for educational purposed.......

Anyone of you who even mention any other round other than the 17 and 22. mag are so retarded in your comprehension I can't justify the time it will take to explain how ridiculous your reasoning and ramblings are...

non subsonic rim fire rounds and suppressors are a joke for the phony brave.....


How many suppressors do you own?


Jet 30cal my first back in 2006
Shark 30cal
SAS .223
YH Mite .22
Sparrow .22/.22mag/17hmr..........

enough..... wait that's not realistic, i could use 9mm can
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