Shouldering a Handgun with a Sig SB15 Brace ************* SAVE MONEY

Saves more time than money. I see the ATF pulling an Akin's Accelerator on this thing though.

Ohhhh boy....

I dunno. You know the old saying "If it seems too good to be true..."

Currently true but how long is it gonna last?

Lets say you buy a setup like this. If the ATF were to reclassify it as a SBR, what would the owner have to do?

Remove the brace? Modify so that it can't be shouldered? Lose the $140 you paid for it?

As just a normal dude who currently no intentions of being combative with my firearms, I've never really seen the need for an sbr.

Even with this legal loophole, it just doesn't do anything for me. The best arguement that's applicable to me is the "truck" gun arguement. But even there my 30-30 has worked fine so far. This whole thing is just too iffy for a conservative (from a decision standpoint as well as political) person like me. It walks such a thin line that how well the Velcro holds up can be difference between legal and federal felony illegal? No thank you.

If I really wanted on, I'd rather take the safe route and go through the ATF. At least I have the full backing of known regulations as opposed to a copy of an ATF letter to a cop floating around online.
But then again being married to a lawyer makes one kinda gun why about these sort of things, pun intended

Once you've had a taste of a SBR its hard to look at normal sized rifles the same. I didn't really see the point of SBR for a long time. The fact that you can break it down into a small case or backpack or add a suppressor without adding a ton of overall length is a huge plus for portability.

As for the Sig Brace, I think its stupid and just asking for trouble. If you're gonna pay $140 for a stupid looking stock, might as well spend a little more for a real stock. Same thing with the Slidefire stocks. Just stupid. Do it right or don't do it at all. I feel the same way when guys were getting out of state CHLs instead of TX CHLs.

Some people want them, some people don't. One reason would be to have a shorter gun. Here's an example:

Both guns are chambered for 300 AAC Blackout. Both guns have a QD mount to accept the suppressor. The top gun has a 16" barrel. The bottom gun has a 8.2" barrel (SBR tax stamped). Even with the suppressor (tax stamped) attached, it's shorter than the 16" barreled rifle. With the suppressor removed and having a short barrel, it is easy to pull that rifle out and drop a pig or coyote on the ranch.

In some states like Indiana, they can't hunt with "high power" rifles. They can use a rifle chambered with pistol ammo and they can use a pistol chambered with rifle ammo (any pistol). So for them, using the Sig SB15 brace on an AR pistol is the only option if they want to use a caliber like a 6.8 to deer hunt.

exactly.

Has anyone ever tried getting the SBR and Suppressor rules repealed?

Try getting your paperwork in a hurry to transport your SBR across statelines every time you want to take it with you.

Fast Forward, Pistol with Sig Brace can be taken anywhere any time.

I don't understand, why would you leave Tejas?

Not Chicago.

And that's why I own more than 1 firearm.

I bet the gun grabbers are already loosing sleep on this. Hate to be a "doubting Tom", but I don't think that will last long.

Traveling with your SBR!!! Taking it for a vacation to some luxurious location for shooting mecca.

Ok I should have prefaced my "don't see a need for an sbr" with the statement for me and my preferences. Make no mistake I think they a cool and total get why one does the silenced sbr. I just have a hard time paying for one. The analogy is like is of course if love to have a my childhood sports car and can more than pay for it now, but unfortunately the boring practicalities of life suggest I drive an SUV that's more costly.

I still stand by the original claim I was trying to make. Even if I were to justify to myself a need for an sbr, this would not be the way to. I'm just too much of a wuss to take the risk. I'd much rather get a stamp and deal with the inconveniences. The risk is too high for not a huge gain in reward.

The slidefire stocks are stupid? Not really, they are pretty fun, especially if you don't want to drop 10 grand for a transferable machine gun. Completely different when that much money is involved.

First, you should definitely get the sports car if you can afford it. It makes the commute so much better, you only live once!

Second, there is no risk with the Sig brace. It's perfectly legal.

...for now. What happens if the ATF changes their minds and classifies it as a butt stock? They've done it before.

Don't confuse stupid with fun. I have no doubt its fun to replicate a fully automatic. I also have no doubt that its stupid to risk going to jail because a LEO doesn't know the difference between a slide fire stock weapon and an unregistered full auto.

BTW, you can accomplish the same result by bump firing....and it's free.

Exactly. Legal today, who knows about tomorrow. Your SBR workaround today may become a worthless plastic turd tomorrow.

I don't think I'm risking anything by shooting one. The things are pretty popular and I've not heard of a single person getting arrested for having one. To each his own though, we've got one and every person that has shot it thought it was tons of fun.

Was it your ammo or their ammo? I'll come shoot your ammo all day long and have lots of fun doing ammo dumps. It's not so much fun dumping $15-45 per magazine of my own ammo.

Lol, that's my one rule. You can shoot all day long, you pay for the ammo though. I gotta agree about going through 40-50 dollars worth of ammo in 5 seconds, but it is fun to act like rambo every now and then. I have a bunch of cheap ammo that I picked up during the last panic that I've been going through lately. Steel cased crap.

For the record I have several registered SBR's and I don't own a Sig Brace, so it's not "mine". But playing the "what if" game is a bit silly. Like I said, "It's perfectly legal", and I can see the allure of avoiding a $200 tax stamp and a 4-12 month wait.

I'm not aware of the ATF reclassifying any pistol buffers as butt stocks in the past. Has that happened before?

Not that I know of, but they have changed their minds on what is and isn't a machine gun. Any government agency that can decide a shoestring is a machine gun is not to be trusted to make good decisions.

Couldn't you shoulder a pistol buffer as well?

You can, but it's not as comfortable.

I just bought one.....

Me too! I've shot with several of them and find them extremely comfortable and effective. Ironically, when I put one on my arm and strapped it down, it was uncomfortable and didn't fit my forearm well at all.