What non magnum caliber if you went with custom?

Hunting rifle
Preferably short action but long not out of the question

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280AI

257 Roberts.

6.5-284

Lets Pick two

Short Action

and

Long Action

What's wrong with the ole tactical.

You going sportier weight or bull? Wanting to have better ballistics than your 308?

Nothing, the tact still shoots lights out. Was just thinking about something more carry friendly. 308 is probably fine for what I need.

280 and 7mm08

6.5 Creedmoor or 260

yup creedmoor right here

280 since 270 short mag as a short action is technically a magnum

257 Roberts in a short action, 25/06 in a long action. I'm just a quarter bore fan....

25-06 for the long

7-08 for the short

280AI or 30-06 for long action

6.5 Creedmore or 7mm-08AI short action

260 rem...308, ... 7mm08 i shoot all three and really there's not much that i cant do with any of em,, great calibers,, but my custom 260 will drive one hole w/ ease.. so will my 308, but the 260 makes a smaller hole

This

308 short action
280 long action

7mm-08 or 260 for short action
280AI on a long action.

Short action if you hand load .260

Short action if you don't handload 6.5 Creedmore

Long action if you handload .280

Long action if you don't handload .30-06

Nosler makes factory ammo for the 280AI.

Long action - 6.5x284
Short Action - 6x47 Lapua

In a custom short action , I'd go 260.

591 action, Krieger or Hart barrel, manners stock, jewell trigger etc.

You just need to make sure that your chamber is cut to the Nosler SAAMI specs.

Custom gun, short action would be 7mm-08

Long action, probably another .270

id say build a custom varmint gun in one of the varmint calbers since that is probably what you will use the most.

.260

I don't really consider this a mag but it is belted and that 257wby

Long 280AI
Short 7mm-08AI

There is no way you can't consider it a magnum it uses ungodly amounts of powder and lets not talk about the added recoil and muzzle blast it adds over the 25-06 for a mere 100-200fps.

260 or creedmore

Long action (if you handload)- 6.5-06

Short action- 260

.260 Rem

Lol, we are still talking recoil under a 270......

In fact 80gr ttsx recoil less in my 257 the 100gr tsx in my 25-06.


When most people think mag the think recoil of 7mag, 300mag, wsm's, 338..etc. I wouldn't put the little 25 bore in same realm, recoil wise

Short action - 260 is 1st choice or a 6.5x284 will fit best in a in M70 SA.
Long action - ummm a 338-'06 would be fun, but a 9.3x62 most likely, however a 9.3x64 Brenneke will stretch a M70 LA receiver plumb full like the SAKO 9.3x66 does and go as fast as a 375 H&H in comparable bullet weights, or a 375 Scoville and get really close to a H&H performance wise on a regular '06 case to take advantage of the 375 bullet selections.
OBTW the 7mm Brenneke's will duplicate a 7RMg speed wise on a '06 length case, I'm told...but brass is a PIA to find and very spendy and cannot be made from something else because of the diameter at the case head.
Ron

Short - 7mm-08
Long - .280 Rem.

I already have too many .264 caliber rifles so I went with other calibers.

7x57 or 30-06

It's still the king magnum of the quarter bores.

I'll agree recoil isn't really even a factor, what I meant is when loaded with same bullets the 257 will have more, that speed has a cost.

What added recoil you get from the .257wby more than makes up for the performance; and its not 100-200fps more

At 200yds the .257Wby has 300+ more ft.lbs of energy and over 300fps faster; and thats with the exact same 100gr TSX bullet.

Roy weatherby said "If you got a .257Wby and a .300Wby then youve got all but the dangerous 5 covered"

This from a guy that killed a cape buffalo with the .257wby

As for a non-magnum custom other than .257wby I would get a 30-06

338.06 AI in a mauser action.

260

270

I would love to see the data behind that Nosler and Sierra show 200fps spread with 110(Nosler) and 117(Hornady) at max speads. Sierra with both running 100gr bullets is only 100FPS.

Well the only factory 100gr tsx is via federal for the 25-06 and then you have the weather by ammo for the 257wby

Federal ammo 100gr tsx
P2506H
25-06 Rem.
2288 muzzle energy
1963
1678
1428
1207
1015

100 Barnes TSX .257wby weather by ammo
2731 muzzle
2352
2019
1725
1496
1239

Velocity

100 Barnes TSX. 257wby weather by ammo .420
3570 muzzle
3312
3079
2840
2396
2203

25-06 federal ammo

100gr tsx
P2506H
25-06 Rem.
3210 muzzle
2973
2749
2536
2332
2138


Disclaimer No idea what length barrel they used

Not saying anything's wrong with that data but if the exact same bullet is used energy and velocity will bleed off at similar amounts which would lead one to think the spread would remain uniform throughout not shrink.

I like that! I almost put 8mm-06.

Fwiw, w/ that bullet the accumark chronographed in a range from 3698-3709 when wby had it trying to figure out what was wrong with it.



338-06AI wouldn't be a bad one to try out.

You beat me to it. Just to be different, 8x57mmJS on an old '96 or '98 action with a new barrel, somewhere around 26" and medium weight. Would make a real nice deer stand rig.

I noticed this about two weeks ago with the Wby chart. If you check the Wby velocity over 100 yard increments it goes like this:
3570 3312 3079 2840 2396 2203

Notice between 300-400 yards how much velocity drops as opposed to any other yardage range?

I'll break it down another way. This way is broken down by speed loss
0(Muzzle)258 233 239 444 193

One of these things is not like the other...

I took it one step further using the velocity and B.C. from the Wby numbers and plugged it into a ballistic calculator. Here's the numbers from it...
3570 3305 3062 2831 2613 2406 2209

25-06 Federal:
3210 2966 2740 2527 2324 2131 1948

If you notice I went out an extra 100 yards, on purpose, because if you omit the blue number, it's essentially the same as Wby's published numbers. My guess is the data was flubbed up and they skipped their 400 yrd velocity and shifted their 500 yd over. But I digress...

At least I'm not the only one to notice, one would think the would correct that instead of just letting it go on.

And FWIW I trust no factory ammunition's published velocity most seem to be short or so inconsistent it falls short on average, unless you chronograph it yourself you have no idea how true or untrue it is.

Short action - 7mm 08

Long action - .35 Whelen

Thanks Scooterb

Well I stand corrected....so when you subtract the 2 sets of data im CORRECT out to at least 300yds then all the way out to 600yds (1/3rd of a Mile) it still has well over 260 more.

I have chronographed the 100gr. TSX load out of my 24" barrel at 3600fps and before I had the barrel cut down from 26" it was 3650 so I believe the muzzle FPS from the WBY site.

Is that an average of shot string velocity or just the highest. One would think yoi might have a slightly faster barrel since your obtained velocity is 100fps higher than the advertised 3550 from Weatherby.