Sig 226 & S&W airweight hybrid

Guys, If I were looking for one gun that would foot the bill of these two guns what would it be?

My criteria is it has to be reliable, forty cal, double strike capability, capacity of 10 plus, double action, tritium sight, and close the size of the J frame,.

Price is not a consideration, Is there such and animal?

Kahr PM40 but not double strike I dont think

Sig DAK versions ( What Dallas, Troopers, and a couple gov agencies carry) I think the smallest might be a 239

Smallest .40 with 10 rounds is the Glock 27 I would guess. That's what I carry. About as light as the airweight until you load them both up, then the Glock get's heavier due to twice the ammo capacity. Dimensions are similar, but the Glock is more "square". Just doesn't fit in a pocket like an airweight.

I have a 239 as well. Love the gun, but it's on the heavy side, and capacity isn't 10.

The P250 sub-compact is the same size as the G27 but is a DAO.

True, it's just 25% heavier. 25 oz. vs. 20 oz.

I've been on this quest for years. The weight don't concern me on the Glock but double strike does. The Kahr triggers I can't get used to the long reset especially after using an SRT 226. It makes double tapping a bitch for me.
I gave two Kahrs a try already, the PM 45 feels as good to me as a Colt 1873. The thing about the other Sig Forties is they really aren't any smaller than the 226.

Just wondering why double tap and double stryke so important?

That deserves an answer. Because of my well trained violent past, its too late to retrain myself to be slower or rack a slide. I gave the Kahrs up because I'm faster than they are by nature. (truth is I don't let the trigger go foward enough to reset and I probably never will by instinct) If I have an FTF my track record lends itself to beating the subject to death with the weapon. I can perform diagnostic functions when I have to but I'd rather not. The Glock 27 has been a contender though.

I guess the answer boils down to comfort level.

Lol

It almost looks like I'd have to drop to a nine to obtain this fantasy.

You asked

Anyway, some help on the subject would be appreciated. I toted a Sig 226 9mm for about fifteen years of my twenty plus years in the Military so I know the weapon.

That means someone of your skill can stop a bad guy 89% of the time and 40 is not needed with someone of your bookoo. Pretty simple. p plus p 9mm equal 357 sig

Love me some Speer LE +p+

Not sure you that to hear it but a PT-140 would get you close. You'd have to go aftermarket sights but they are much more compact than the glock but have the double striker and not on a super long trigger.

Brother in-law, For the record, I have stopped bad guys in close quarters 100% of the time I'm sure most of the success could be attributed to the grace of God and dumb luck. I have talked with God and He wants me to do my part in the selection of the weapon along with other deterent factors.

I haven't used +P+ because I would be concerned about how the gun would hold up, what say you?

I'm frequently in areas around the United states with large animals and I felt the forty would give me a chance or at least they would find the animal close to my dead body. I carry bear spray as a first line of defense.

I have considerd the PT140 but am unsure of Taurus. I can make a 226 vanish in short pants and a untucked shirt but like everyone else I'm getting lazy and like a pocket carry.

Sig 239 9mm w/124gr +P+ ammo

The XDm's have a shorter reset, but still a larger package.

I've been eyballing that 239 as I believe I'm going to have to compromise on capacity. Anything less than 7 rounds and I'll tote my airweight 357.

I've got a beautiful 239 in .40 I've toyed with trading before. Let me know if you're interested. It's got all the bells and whistles (Crimson Trace, night sights, DM Bullard IWB Holster, two tone, etc.) But hey, you said price was no object right?

Thanks for the offer, I buy only new and I'm not a laser sight guy.

Ok, I've examined the 239 side by side my 226 and it isn't that much smaller.

I think Sig could do a lot better in this niche.

So far there is no contender

They do make an 8 round S&W 357 revolver with night sights but it's larger than what I'm lookin fer.

Sig 229

http://www.texashuntingforum.com/forum/u...vie#Post2173407

6+1 instead of 9+1 (supposed to be an 8 round mag coming).

40 S&W

Night sites available for the 709, not sure if its a factory option on the 740 but will be available for sure.

2nd strike capable.

19 oz weight (442 = 15 oz, 640 = 23 oz)

slightly smaller profile than a j frame.

HTH

David

I've looked at the Slim and would rather a first Gen and the lower capacity because it bulks it up with the 8 round mag of the gen 2. I'm still debating on it because I still feel my 13.3 ounce five shot hammerless 357 airweight is a better choice for me and easier to load shot shells. The dang price is right though at $329 wholesale. I feel you get what you pay for though.

The 229 is a hair smaller than my 226

The Glock 27 just ain't going to cut it with my active lifestyle, I'd snag that trigger and shoot myself. Its about $400 wholesale and looks as cheap as the Taurus.

Have you shot a 357 13.3 oz airweight? Your assertations about multi-shot capabilities make me think no. The 15oz 442 is all you want w/ standard pressure buffalo bore 158grn hp. The +p (approaching 9mm +P performance, but NOT exceedding it) buffalo bore 158grn loads are as much as you want in any J frame smith for defensive carry.

The attenuation of recoil through the operation of an autoloaders mechanism is one of the primary buying motives. There is no comparison in carrying to a glock/xd sub, the slim is far more compact.

David

"Have you shot a 357 13.3 oz airweight?"

Yes Sir, Its unpleasent at best. I have a hammerless 340 M&P, A 3" hammered M&P 360. I will tell you the hammerless has less felt recoil because of the shape of the backstrap but its still a muther. I only shoot 357's in my 3" 14.7 ounce version. All of these on this post have XS tritium big dot night sights which I can't live without anymore.

And something you might like instead of the 442 but please keep it a secret

http://www.botachdefense.com/Smith-Wesson-M-P-342-Revolver-p/smithwesson-mp342.htm

When you carry these things you feel naked without them. I'm at the point where I'm probably going to send both of the 357's to Smith & Wesson to have the barrels swapped out creating a hammerless 3" 357.

I own both and the barrel and grip are both 1" shorter so its a few "hairs" smaller.