This may be a dumb question, but do the antler restrictions apply to us guys on the mld 3 properties? Because i've got a buck thats not 13 inches thats needs to go. Hes a 3.5 old puny seven point thats is just f'ed up. We have been trophy managing for fifteen years and i dont think tpwd should be telling us we cant cull our bucks that need to go.

MLD3 goes by whatever is on the management plan for that property. If 3.5yrs old is ya'lls criteria, pull the trigger.

Hey I got a question, if a nubbing buck has not quite broke through the skin is it still considered a buck? I'v e argued this with my fellow lease holders and told them that if the deer has male organs it is a buck, period. Am I right? I know to be legal it must pertrude at least 1" out of the skin, but even so, if it has not broke through then it cannot be tagged as a doe, correct? Just asking for general knowledge, thanks. And jbs8307, sorry to hijack your thread man.

If not broken through the skin it is considered an un-antlered deer. Look on your tags, they don't say buck or doe.

don't think it even has to be an inch. If it's has through skin, it's a buck... a nubbin (not through skin) is tagged as an antlerless. However, the rules within a lease sometimes determines what it "counts as", but it shouldn't change the way it's tagged.

It still amazes me that most of the questions on forums pertaining to our regulations can be found in the Outdoor Annual as well as on the TPWD website. Not all answers you will receive on a forum will be correct. Always go the regulation source, what is in print, the Outdoor Annual and if you have questions on any of those, contact TPWD in Austin, 1-800-792-1112.

Pertaining to the Antler Restriction question & MLD Level 2 & 3 properties:
http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/huntwild/hunt/season/deer/spec_antler/

SPECIAL ANTLER RESTRICTIONS:
In selected counties (see County Listing), there are special regulations for buck deer. In these counties, the bag limit is two legal bucks, but only ONE may have an inside spread of 13 inches or greater.

A legal buck deer is defined as having:
-a hardened antler protruding through the skin AND;
-at least one unbranched antler; OR
-an inside spread measurement between main beams of 13 inches or greater.

To determine if a buck has an inside spread measurement of at least 13 inches, look at the distance from ear-tip to ear-tip on a buck with ears in the alert position (see illustration). The 13-inch or greater inside spread requirement does not apply to any buck that has an unbranched antler.

Definition of a point: A point is a projection that extends at least one inch from the edge of a main beam or another tine. The tip of the main beam is also a point.

Does not apply on Level 2 or 3 MLDP properties.

Found on page 62 of the Outdoor Annual

The definition of a buck or antlerless deer:
A "buck deer" is a deer with a hardened antler protruding through the skin.
A "spike buck deer" is a BUCK with no antler having more than one point.
ALL OTHER DEER ARE ANTLERLESS DEER.
A spike buck must be tagged with a buck deer tag from the hunter's hunting license or applicable permit.

http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/publications/annual/hunt/deer/

Found on page 61 of the Outdoor Annual

clear as mud

Hey MO, I was on your side, learn to read or go back to fishing crap dot com.....sounds like you've been whereever and didn't like people there too... beginning to see a pattern???????

Geez, like I am ever going to take the state's side in ANY friggin antler restriction question, WOW...

I think he was talking about kyotee1's reply.

Yeah well he needs to quote him then... lump me in with fishing morons and antler restriction people....crap...

I see your point Sig....folks don't pay attention to stuff like that and they should!

yes i wasnt talking to you sig. I was reffering to this comment:
"It still amazes me that most of the questions on forums pertaining to our regulations can be found in the Outdoor Annual as well as on the TPWD website."

It just came off very arrogant. These forums are for disscusions and questions.
And i dont even post on the fishing forum. I just see the same kindof I'm better than you tone in the post over there and this site is usually very friendly.
Maybe the guy didnt mean anything by but thats just how it read to me. He did help by answering the question and thankyou for that.

Sorry about that sig i should have quoted him.

I think maybe that fella that you didn't like his response is a game warden or something.

He works for TP&W, but isnt a GW.

I love the dichotomy of your original post and your signature line........

well then that makes perfect sense!

Asked and answered... seems pretty clear to me.

i was reffering to a cull buck in my original post. that doesnt contradict my signature line.

I've been eating animals for 48 years and don't
think TPWD should be telling me which ones to eat
and which ones not to eat.

i have killed three bucks in the last 15 years on our place!

Well you should spend more time in the woods then!

its a you shoot it you mount it lease so i m very picky. Its more about the hunting than the killing a buck every year. But there are spikes, does and tons of hogs to keep busy.