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 30-06 with H380 Powder and 150gr BT's
#4674081
10/19/13 06:38 PM
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BASSHAWK
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Anybody using this combo of caliber and powder. Wanting to load some 150gr. Nosler Hunting Ballistic Tips with the H380 powder. Wondering if anyone has tried the combo. With powder being difficult to find, you gotta use what you can get your ands on. I can get my hands on the H380 right now. Let me know what you guys think. BASSHAWK
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Re: 30-06 with H380 Powder and 150gr BT's
[Re: BASSHAWK]
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10/19/13 06:50 PM
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RiverRider
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I don't think it's unworkable at all. As you say, components are difficult to come by and there are powders that I would try before H380 but you won't be giving up too much velocity. If you can find an accurate load that takes good advantage of the powder's velocity potential, then it should be plenty satisfactory---IMO.
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Re: 30-06 with H380 Powder and 150gr BT's
[Re: RiverRider]
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10/19/13 06:54 PM
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BASSHAWK
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I load for a 270, 300WSM and 7mm-08. All 3 of those calibers use something different powder wise. I use H4831, H4350 and H4227SSC. I am low of the first 2, but have basically a full pound of the 4227SSC. I wanted to use the H4350 on the '06, but I don't really have enough of it to start working on loads. What would be on your short list to start with? Maybe the top 3 options for powder? BASSHAWK
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Re: 30-06 with H380 Powder and 150gr BT's
[Re: BASSHAWK]
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10/19/13 07:03 PM
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RiverRider
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Well, as usual I would consult QuickLOAD to see what the most likely suspects are. Sometimes a powder listed is impractical due to the case fill, but it's easy enough to ignore the ones that suggest a 125% fill ratio. Please do not rely on this as though it is published, tried-and-true load data. Cartridge : .30-06 Spring. (SAAMI)
Bullet : .308, 150, Nosler BalTip 30150
Useable Case Capaci: 60.345 grain H2O = 3.918 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm
Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 59465 psi, or 410 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 115 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
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Norma MRP 114.3 66.4 4.30 3194 97.2 59465 9794 1.115 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N560 115.0 65.4 4.24 3131 92.7 57829 9614 1.132 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter 107.9 62.0 4.01 3126 98.2 59465 8966 1.125 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-17 99.1 57.8 3.75 3125 99.8 59465 8609 1.117 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Winchester 760 101.9 60.0 3.89 3120 97.4 59465 8931 1.128 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H414 101.9 60.0 3.89 3120 97.4 59465 8931 1.128 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma URP 107.5 59.2 3.83 3118 99.3 59465 8714 1.131 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 4350 111.9 59.6 3.86 3118 99.4 59465 8705 1.144 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N550 104.3 59.3 3.84 3116 99.2 59465 8816 1.137 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 7828 SSC 113.4 64.8 4.20 3116 93.2 59465 9295 1.119 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-22 115.0 64.7 4.19 3111 95.0 56791 9396 1.142 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19 112.2 62.4 4.05 3106 95.5 59465 9012 1.125 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Ramshot BigGame 100.2 57.6 3.73 3102 99.8 59465 8441 1.131 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate MAGPRO 115.0 68.0 4.41 3100 90.5 57073 9499 1.143 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831 112.9 60.1 3.90 3099 99.4 59465 8528 1.139 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4895 96.7 53.8 3.49 3090 99.9 59465 8367 1.142 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 114.3 59.4 3.85 3084 100.0 59465 8059 1.128 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-15 97.5 54.2 3.51 3077 99.7 59465 8314 1.143 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma 203B 98.0 54.5 3.53 3077 99.9 59465 8264 1.143 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma 204 106.2 61.0 3.95 3077 95.1 59465 8738 1.127 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon BL-C2 92.2 56.0 3.63 3075 100.0 59465 8152 1.145 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma 203 old 99.6 56.0 3.63 3073 100.0 59465 8150 1.153 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Winchester 748 89.7 53.7 3.48 3070 100.0 59465 7861 1.137 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H380 98.8 56.1 3.64 3062 99.0 59465 8357 1.147 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H4895 94.0 52.3 3.39 3062 100.0 59465 8075 1.144 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4320 99.4 54.4 3.53 3059 99.8 59465 8008 1.129 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 3031 97.3 50.6 3.28 3056 100.0 59465 7467 1.143 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H4831 SC 112.7 63.4 4.11 3048 92.5 59465 8639 1.128 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 4064 104.1 54.2 3.51 3043 100.0 59465 7632 1.175 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4350 107.1 59.2 3.84 3043 96.6 59465 8331 1.135 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 2520 94.5 54.2 3.51 3043 100.0 59465 7633 1.157 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H4350 109.1 59.3 3.85 3042 96.5 59465 8340 1.136 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Winchester Supreme 780 110.0 64.5 4.18 3041 95.0 59465 8465 1.131 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Ramshot TAC 89.0 53.0 3.43 3040 100.0 59465 7801 1.143 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon VARGET 99.9 53.8 3.48 3033 99.6 59465 7986 1.137 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N530 90.7 50.7 3.29 3032 100.0 59465 7731 1.142 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
"Arguing with you always makes me thirsty." -Augustus McRae
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Re: 30-06 with H380 Powder and 150gr BT's
[Re: RiverRider]
#4674296
10/19/13 08:46 PM
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fishhuntgolfgeek
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I use Hodgdon H414 with 52.5grs of powder and a Nosler BT 180 gr bullet. This combo works good for accuracy. I use the H414 powder because from my research this powder was made for the .30-06 round originally. 52.5 grains of powder is at or near maximum pressure/charge for the .30-06. Pushes the bullet to around 2600fps according to my books.
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Re: 30-06 with H380 Powder and 150gr BT's
[Re: fishhuntgolfgeek]
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10/20/13 01:28 PM
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BASSHAWK
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Well I went to the store that told me they had all the components. Got there and they didn't have all of them. Ended up with H380 powder, once fired brass instead of new and Sierra GameKing Spitzer Boat Tails instead of Nosler BT's. I loaded up a bunch at 57.5gr and COL of 3.25". Hopefully they will perform at least as well as factory fodder. We Shall see. Thanks to all for the information and replies. BASSHAWK
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Re: 30-06 with H380 Powder and 150gr BT's
[Re: BASSHAWK]
#4675536
10/20/13 01:38 PM
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DLALLDER
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BassHawk, That load may be very hot!!!!! I shot H-380 in my 30-06 but I am shooting a Nosler 125 bal. tip. This load shoots great in my rifle, accurate and mild recoil. I am loading 56 gr of the H-380 and estimated 3100 fps, I doubt it is that fast.
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Re: 30-06 with H380 Powder and 150gr BT's
[Re: DLALLDER]
#4675556
10/20/13 01:47 PM
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Thanks for the info DLALLDER. I will keep a close eye out for signs of high pressure. The max charge was 59gr for the powder and bullet combo, hopefully at 57.5gr it'll be tame. BASSHAWK
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