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King Ranch or the Waggoner ranch? #938655 10/02/09 01:28 AM
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I was just thinking about two of the biggest ranches in Texas and was wondering which one you'll thought was the better of the two for taking a record book deer. The King ranch has commercial hunting and we all know what kind of deer come off of there. The Waggoner on the other hand has no commercial hunting, but gets hunted by a handful full of people every year. Both amazing ranches, but which one do youll think has the biggest B&C walking around?

My opinion would be the Waggoner, because thats 500,000 plus acres that has literally no hunting pressure.


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I have only been to the King ranch.... and had 2 booners within 30 yards of me on the trip. Too bad I was on a nilgai/javelina hunt.


Re: King Ranch or the Waggoner ranch? [Re: rifleman] #938698 10/02/09 01:49 AM
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my uncle hunts the kind ranch, its there second year there, but they got a dif pasture this year. imo, the bucks ive seen werent to awfully fantasic, but ive seen some amazing bucks come off the king ranch as a whole.


Re: King Ranch or the Waggoner ranch? [Re: Closed Traverse] #938704 10/02/09 01:50 AM
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King Ranch without question.



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Re: King Ranch or the Waggoner ranch? [Re: bulltide] #938710 10/02/09 01:52 AM
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I believe the King Ranch still offers a $25,000 buck to hunt!



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Re: King Ranch or the Waggoner ranch? [Re: Closed Traverse] #938715 10/02/09 01:53 AM
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I would say the Wagoneer. Theres no pressure what so ever and deer on that place die of old age. I would hate to see what it would cost for a hunt or a lease at the Wagoneer.


Re: King Ranch or the Waggoner ranch? [Re: cmcmahan] #938743 10/02/09 02:08 AM
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Wagoneer.. most people probley will never see a picture posted of a wagoneer deer



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Re: King Ranch or the Waggoner ranch? [Re: BOBO the Clown] #938759 10/02/09 02:12 AM
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I honestly have never heard of the Wagoneer...I must of grown up in the stix!


Re: King Ranch or the Waggoner ranch? [Re: rifleman] #938769 10/02/09 02:15 AM
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Yelp east texas is the stixs.



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Re: King Ranch or the Waggoner ranch? [Re: BOBO the Clown] #938784 10/02/09 02:19 AM
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Consistenly putting book deer down, definitely the king but ranches like the wagoneer and 6666 are hard to beat when it comes to "natural" trophies as well as absolute monsters....everyone knows what the king has.


Re: King Ranch or the Waggoner ranch? [Re: TexasDefender] #938998 10/02/09 04:10 AM
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The Big "W" for sure.


Re: King Ranch or the Waggoner ranch? [Re: MontagueMonster] #939022 10/02/09 04:25 AM
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I would probably pick the waggoner


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seen a couple very nice bucks come from the king ranch. including a huge 16pt. id say the king only because ive never heard of the other one.


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Atleast I'm not the only one...after a quick google search I have found that it is located "up yonder" above the Texas mason dixon line.


Re: King Ranch or the Waggoner ranch? [Re: rifleman] #939120 10/02/09 10:15 AM
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Hunted them both. I would have to say Waggoner


Re: King Ranch or the Waggoner ranch? [Re: MontagueMonster] #939165 10/02/09 11:55 AM
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The King Ranch is so big that it has some areas with book deer and some areas with average deer. My Company leases 46,000 acres of it. The Ranch demands that you keep incredibly meticulous records and participate in their deer management. They allow us a certain number of bucks within different scoring ranges. Shoot one in the wrong range and they penalize you the next year. I've seen our records a few times and the biggest usually score around 140. Not a bad buck but not what you think of when you think of the King Ranch.



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Re: King Ranch or the Waggoner ranch? [Re: PrimitiveHunter] #939182 10/02/09 12:26 PM
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I'd say Wagoners. I can't believe so many have never heard of this famous spread. It was the home of Poco Bueno, one of the most famous studs in the Quarter Horse industry. Oh well, I guess there's lots of things I don't know about city life.



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Re: King Ranch or the Waggoner ranch? [Re: rifleman] #939248 10/02/09 01:14 PM
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Atleast I'm not the only one...after a quick google search I have found that it is located "up yonder" above the Texas mason dixon line.


rofl

you've never see God's country until you head north west!!!

Two other big ranches up there 6666's, pitchfork



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Re: King Ranch or the Waggoner ranch? [Re: BOBO the Clown] #939662 10/02/09 05:17 PM
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Matador has opened up hunting as well. I was reading an article about a hunt where they rattled up 40 bucks in a single day. Normal is 10 to 12. Sounds exciting if you got the dough.


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If someone offered me a hunt between those 2 ranches, I would opt for the Waggoner. I just think the terrain and hunt would be more exciting.


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Atleast I'm not the only one...after a quick google search I have found that it is located "up yonder" above the Texas mason dixon line.


rofl

you've never see God's country until you head north west!!!

Two other big ranches up there 6666's, pitchfork

about as far NW as I've been has been Gunnison, I had to be impressed with the scenary, b/c I certainly wasn't seeing any whitetails.


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I have got a buddy that cowboys on the wagoneer and i have been with him on places of the ranch that people have never seen and have to say that the biggest buck i have ever seen in the wild was standing bout 175 yards from us and i have been to king 6 times just my 2 cents


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Wagongoner for sure ! Hunted property that backs up to the Waggoner and because they generally do not allow any deer hunting, there are monsters on that place that die of old age.


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Originally Posted By: PrimitiveHunter
The King Ranch is so big that it has some areas with book deer and some areas with average deer. My Company leases 46,000 acres of it. The Ranch demands that you keep incredibly meticulous records and participate in their deer management. They allow us a certain number of bucks within different scoring ranges. Shoot one in the wrong range and they penalize you the next year. I've seen our records a few times and the biggest usually score around 140. Not a bad buck but not what you think of when you think of the King Ranch.


what division is your lease located? I am very up to date on the management at the ranch, and dont see how yall only shot deer in the 140's, 140s walk around like fleas down there.
I was a guide on THE KING last year and i would def say the king produces more and better deer. i cant even explain how many booners i saw!!!



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I'd sure like a chance to hunt out at the Nail Ranch... just dont have the $$$



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