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CD or Money Market
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04/23/24 04:47 PM
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I'm looking at either a new issue CD(5.35%) or a Money Market(5.03%).
At this moment in time would you lock in the rate or stay liquid in the money market?
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Re: CD or Money Market
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#9037700
04/23/24 04:54 PM
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I like flexibility and liquidity. YMMV, depends on your risk tolerance and if you may need the money.
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Re: CD or Money Market
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#9037709
04/23/24 05:10 PM
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I'm looking at either a new issue CD(5.35%) or a Money Market(5.03%).
At this moment in time would you lock in the rate or stay liquid in the money market?
Lock in I have noticed the better CD rates are getting shorter time period, like only 8 months. Problem is you can't lock in very long at anything over 5% Either one is a good just depends your and how long you want to tie up cash The experts keep saying interest rates cuts are coming, but that still hasn't happened. Just a few months ago they were saying 3 interest rate cuts were coming in 2024, you see that hasn't happened yet.
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Re: CD or Money Market
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#9037722
04/23/24 05:30 PM
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Be very careful with CD's
I received an unsolicited post card from Edward Jones in the mail yesterday. Interest rate for 3-mo was 5.3, 6-mo 5.3 and 1-yr was 5.09. I was interested
Read the very tiny fine print. If Cds are sold prior to maturity, the investor can loose principal value and a bunch of other garbage. Yields quoted are net of all commissions.
Nope.
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Re: CD or Money Market
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#9037724
04/23/24 05:34 PM
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Living in good times right now when either choice looks good. Others comments are right on and you likely know that. Your possible need for the money is one factor and trying to anticipate rate changes is separate. No one knows but an informed “guess” should be better than a coin flip. I pay a guy to make those type decisions for me.
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Re: CD or Money Market
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04/23/24 06:01 PM
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Treasury Direct's website takes some getting used to It's horrible...I used it to buy some series I bonds and it almost not worth it. But I did eventually figure it out and it's been well worth the hassle.
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Re: CD or Money Market
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#9037742
04/23/24 06:14 PM
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Why not both...diversify?
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Re: CD or Money Market
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#9037744
04/23/24 06:14 PM
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Be very careful with CD's
I received an unsolicited post card from Edward Jones in the mail yesterday. Interest rate for 3-mo was 5.3, 6-mo 5.3 and 1-yr was 5.09. I was interested
Read the very tiny fine print. If Cds are sold prior to maturity, the investor can loose principal value and a bunch of other garbage. Yields quoted are net of all commissions.
Nope. That's Edward Jones for you. Go to an actual real bank and CD's are great. I just had one mature and got 18K for doing nothing.
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#9037746
04/23/24 06:22 PM
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This reminded me to renew mine. Think I’m going Texas Capital Bank, 5 percent.
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Re: CD or Money Market
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#9037753
04/23/24 06:26 PM
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All CDs fully mature in 12 months despite claiming its a 6 or 9 month CD.
Consider laddered CDs. Every 3 months open a new CD so they mature at different times giving you access
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Re: CD or Money Market
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#9037770
04/23/24 07:11 PM
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All CDs fully mature in 12 months despite claiming its a 6 or 9 month CD.
Consider laddered CDs. Every 3 months open a new CD so they mature at different times giving you access Incorrect They have CD up to 5 years
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#9037771
04/23/24 07:12 PM
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RedRanger
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Why not both...diversify?
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#9037775
04/23/24 07:16 PM
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All CDs fully mature in 12 months despite claiming its a 6 or 9 month CD.
Consider laddered CDs. Every 3 months open a new CD so they mature at different times giving you access Please explain. If I buy a 9 month at 5% CD, I get 5% for nine months and my money at the end of nine months......don't I?
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Re: CD or Money Market
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04/23/24 07:22 PM
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All CDs fully mature in 12 months despite claiming its a 6 or 9 month CD.
Consider laddered CDs. Every 3 months open a new CD so they mature at different times giving you access Please explain. If I buy a 9 month at 5% CD, I get 5% for nine months and my money at the end of nine months......don't I? Yep
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Re: CD or Money Market
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#9037785
04/23/24 07:43 PM
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rolyat.nosaj
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Robinhood money market account at 5.25% for first 3 months, then it goes to 5%
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Re: CD or Money Market
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04/23/24 07:43 PM
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Please explain. If I buy a 9 month at 5% CD, I get 5% for nine months and my money at the end of nine months......don't I?
Yep The 5% in your example is the APY, which is annualized. So 9 months is 75% of a year. That means you would earn ~75% of the annualized 5% rate. Say you started with $10,000. At the end of 9 months, you'd get 9/12 * 5.0% * $10,000 = $375 in interest plus your initial deposit of $10,000.
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Re: CD or Money Market
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#9037789
04/23/24 07:53 PM
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I'm looking at either a new issue CD(5.35%) or a Money Market(5.03%).
At this moment in time would you lock in the rate or stay liquid in the money market?
Lock in I have noticed the better CD rates are getting shorter time period, like only 8 months. Problem is you can't lock in very long at anything over 5% Either one is a good just depends your and how long you want to tie up cash The experts keep saying interest rates cuts are coming, but that still hasn't happened. Just a few months ago they were saying 3 interest rate cuts were coming in 2024, you see that hasn't happened yet. Those same experts predicted a recession last year. Talking heads. I would listen to RedRanger before CNBC!!
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Re: CD or Money Market
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#9037804
04/23/24 08:39 PM
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CD for us these days. Keep a few Benjamins in a Money Market as well for easy access. 5.25% is easy money in my opinion if you have cash to sit on for a bit.
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#9037838
04/23/24 09:52 PM
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That is a great rate on the money market, but it can change very quickly.
I am recommending one year CD's for my clients, even though our 90 day CD's have a higher rate.
Happy to answer any questions anyone might have! I manage a branch of a Texas-based bank in Austin.
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#9037845
04/23/24 10:01 PM
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I’ve had good luck with T-Bills on the Treasury Direct site. Have some 4, 13, and 52 week issued. The 4 week I have them renew automatically, in case I’ll need it for some reason. Paying around 5.25% these days.
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#9037850
04/23/24 10:05 PM
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I will take 5% with no risk all day long. As others have said if you have other access to money then locking in a CD for a year or two is good stuff IMO.
For money you are willing to lock up for longer a multi year fixed annuity is paying in the 6% range and that rate is guaranteed either 3 or 5 years (your choice) and all of the earnings are tax deferred until you withdraw it. No fees other than a penalty if you withdraw more than 10% in a single year.
I have placed some of my long term money into several 5 year fixed annuities at 6%.
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Re: CD or Money Market
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04/23/24 10:08 PM
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I’ve had good luck with T-Bills on the Treasury Direct site. Have some 4, 13, and 52 week issued. The 4 week I have them renew automatically, in case I’ll need it for some reason. Paying around 5.25% these days. Is there a 10k limit on t bills. ?
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#9037871
04/23/24 10:51 PM
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I’ve had good luck with T-Bills on the Treasury Direct site. Have some 4, 13, and 52 week issued. The 4 week I have them renew automatically, in case I’ll need it for some reason. Paying around 5.25% these days. Is there a 10k limit on t bills. ? There is no limit that I'm aware of. I've been buying some here and there for years. A few of them are auto-renewing every week. I don't understand why anyone would mess with CDs or money market funds when these 30-Day T-Bills are getting about 5.5% with no time commitment beyond 30 days. I have a family member that had money market funds frozen during the 2008 financial chaos. They got their money, but they had to wait. Here are some money market fun times: https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-23-105535
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04/23/24 10:57 PM
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I’ve had good luck with T-Bills on the Treasury Direct site. Have some 4, 13, and 52 week issued. The 4 week I have them renew automatically, in case I’ll need it for some reason. Paying around 5.25% these days. Is there a 10k limit on t bills. ? There is in an I bond, but I’ve put more than that in a 13 week T-bill recently. Another plus is you don’t have to physically go to the bank and fill out a bunch of paper, like when I bought a couple CDs last year. It can be handled on the Treasury website.
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