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Re: Ok, what about the opposite of the fudd scope, on a budget. [Re: scottfromdallas] #9000031 02/05/24 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by scottfromdallas
Originally Posted by Bryan C. Heimann
Burris XTRII Assembled in Greely, CO. There’s my scope


Mine says made in the Philippines.


Most i have found on line boast “assembled in Greely, Colorado. Not made. But at least the parts are assembled by American workers.

The XTR Pro series are machined in Greely, still does not say they are “made”in Greely.

I think everything else from Burris may be 100% produced overseas and imported but none from China.

So far as I have read online, nothing from Burris is imported from China. All imports are sourced in the free world. And nothing is of poor quality, reports on THF are pretty much unanimous that Burris does not offer anything of poor quality.

I will snatch up the cheapest Burris walmart special “for now” and give it a test drive on the Gen II.


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Originally Posted by Bryan C. Heimann
So I am looking for a unicorn. Is there anything at least assembled in USA, decent glass, tracks well, about $1000?



No, just about all the really good scopes that track correctly are made by low in Japan. The closest to made in USA is the Nightforce nxs 2.5-10x42 but it’s around $1500 street price and is sfp. The new Maven RS1.2 2.5-15x44 would be worth checking out. It’s around $1200 and made in Japan.

The scopes that im using for western hunting and around Texas are the Swfa 3-9, Swfa 6x, bushnell Lrhs 3-12x44(discontinued), Nightforce nxs 2.5-10.


I’ve read mixed reports on Arken but I’ve been around a few of the new Arken line that so far seem to be tracking and holding zero but they are Chinese.

Once you get a scope that tracks correctly and holds zero it sure makes life easier.

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SWFA Fixed 6x is a gem for $299. That would be a good all around optic if you are comfortable shooting distance with only 6 power.



Re: Ok, what about the opposite of the fudd scope, on a budget. [Re: 10 Gauge] #9000046 02/05/24 12:48 AM
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The Burris XTR Pro is actually made in USA. Probably Japanese glass. Burris is what I am probably gonna go with. Even if I can’t afford the XTR Pro made in USA.

Leupold’s low end probably barely meets the minimum standard to be called *made* in USA. At least Burris is trying to provide quality at s price point and keep some American jobs, and doesn’t deal with enemies of the United States at all. I am pretty sure Leupold does even if it is the minimum.

Yeah i have bought some Chinese scopes, and a lot of Chinese stuff but when I look at that “made in China” it feels wrong. Sometimes I don’t even look at the origin. But as I get older I pay more attention. Why not Phillipines? How about Taiwan, China is their enemy too. Mexico? Mexican labor is 1/3 the cost of Chinese labor. China beats their competitors with slaves.

You vote with your money, boys. It’s our fault we are in this mess, sometimes it is hard to find goods of any kind with no ties to China. Leaning forward, making an effort to avoid Chinese goods and support our allies.


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Re: Ok, what about the opposite of the fudd scope, on a budget. [Re: scottfromdallas] #9000051 02/05/24 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by scottfromdallas
SWFA Fixed 6x is a gem for $299. That would be a good all around optic if you are comfortable shooting distance with only 6 power.



I could do it. Might not be very competitive in a match but it would be a great hunting scope. Hard to best a solid fixed hunting scope. But I think the Burris XTR line is where it’s at.

I would prefer an SFP to a FFP anyway, it can be had.

Night force and SWFA, I will still take into consideration for this rifle, if i find a good deal with spending money in my pocket.

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Re: Ok, what about the opposite of the fudd scope, on a budget. [Re: 10 Gauge] #9000057 02/05/24 01:08 AM
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And yes i would still consider a Leupold, especially on another gun. But Burris has got it going on. They are heavy though, XTR’s are about two pounds!

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Re: Ok, what about the opposite of the fudd scope, on a budget. [Re: 10 Gauge] #9000059 02/05/24 01:12 AM
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XTRII = Philippines
XTR Pro = USA

Schott glass.

Also, Burris = Steiner


My botnet is bigger than yours.
Re: Ok, what about the opposite of the fudd scope, on a budget. [Re: Mickey Moose] #9000086 02/05/24 01:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Mickey Moose
XTRII = Philippines
XTR Pro = USA

Schott glass.

Also, Burris = Steiner


I’ll take that up Also, good to know. I appreciate it.


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Re: Ok, what about the opposite of the fudd scope, on a budget. [Re: 10 Gauge] #9000141 02/05/24 04:40 AM
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I stumbled across this one. VX3HD, simple 3-9x40, 0.1 mil adjustments, plain mil dot reticle that does not make my eyes hurt. Fixes parallax at 150 yards. And it weighs in just under 16 ounces.

That, and a set of aluminum Warne Vapor rings (vertical detachable, not split) keeps my whole rig just under 7.5 pounds.

I think it would work perfectly on both of these rifles I am scope shopping for. I might get 2!

https://www.leupold.com/mark-3hd-3-9x40-30mm-p5-mildot

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My Ruger American in 308 is a tack driver. Bedded stock with aftermarket tactical bolt topped of with a Vortex 4-16x44 viper VG6 Gamma muzzle break very nice set up. rifle

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I hemmed and hawed a few days and settled on the MK3HD 3x9 with the standard mil reticle, not illuminated. Then I hemmed and hawed because for a little more, the 4x12 has side focus. Then I hemmed and hawed and figured the SWFA SS 10x is the best buy and has side focus.

AND THEN a fellow member of the THF brotherhood offered me a killer deal on his MK3HD 3-9x40 tmr firedot. So that was a no-brainer.

https://www.leupold.com/mark-3hd-3-9x40-p5-illum-firedot-tmr

Thanks Brad up


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I'm glad it worked out. Will be really nice on that 308. I thought I wanted a real scope on my AR and then realized I gotta have the 1x bottom end. If anyone else is on the fence, this Leupold has some of the best glass under $1500 that I've seen. Reminds me of the SWFA HD 3-9x with better reticle and turrets and the glass is even a little better and it's about as American as scopes get these days. I'll probably regret selling it at some point, because it's a really, really nice scope. But for now I hope Bryan gets some good use out of it!

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I like the Firedot TMR. Great hunting reticle.



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Originally Posted by scottfromdallas
I like the Firedot TMR. Great hunting reticle.


I bought a VX-3HD with the Firedot last year. It’s come in handy during some shots taken at dusk on hogs. I haven’t noticed accuracy affected by the slightly thicker reticle when target shooting.

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Well i am patiently waiting my turn to use the 100 yard range. I eyeballed the 50 yard bore sight, fired two shots in case the erector tubes needed to settle after a big adjustment. I don’t know how important that is with today’s scopes but it is how i always did it. Well them two shots were touching.

Made one quick adjustment, bull’s eye. So it tracks 😎

Damn fine scope. Best glass i have fooled with.

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