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 Re: Are you even a man?
[Re: Smokey Bear]
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10/07/23 01:59 PM
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Judd
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…if you don’t own at least one .30-06? Was wondering how many else share this opinion. Also curious if there’s another caliber you think better represents all of mankind. Mostly joking here but also serious question.  The man purse crowd will be along shortly to talk about how the recoil from a long action hurts their cat. No murse but I’m in the hurt kitty camp…I’ve been tuning on a 30 Nosler and 300prc lately, they don’t hurt near like a case full of h4350 dies.
Don't let your ears hear what your eyes didn't see, and don't let your mouth say what your heart doesn't feel
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Re: Are you even a man?
[Re: DustyArmadillo]
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10/07/23 02:11 PM
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J.G.
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I've got no use for a .30-06
I have performed load development on two rifles. 180 gr with +/- 59.0 gr of H-4350 is a Mike Tyson jab.
Over twenty rifles in .300 Win Mag. 200 gr ELD-X, and + 74.0 gr of H-1000 is more of a shove.
Best thing you can do to a .30-06 is rebarrel it for .280 Ackley Improved, .284 Winchester, or 6.5-284. I said what I said.
I do own a .338 Lapua Mag, hunting rifle now.
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Re: Are you even a man?
[Re: DustyArmadillo]
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10/07/23 02:23 PM
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scottfromdallas
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No 30.06 but several 308s which makes me a short man.
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Re: Are you even a man?
[Re: DustyArmadillo]
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10/07/23 02:49 PM
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Buzzsaw
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Great cartridge!! Proven forever
BUT
my kitty does not like the recoil either.
SPACE FOR RENT
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Re: Are you even a man?
[Re: DustyArmadillo]
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10/07/23 03:05 PM
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Smokey Bear
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Smokey Bear---Lone Star State.
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Re: Are you even a man?
[Re: Smokey Bear]
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10/07/23 03:18 PM
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Buzzsaw
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SPACE FOR RENT
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Re: Are you even a man?
[Re: DStroud]
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10/07/23 03:49 PM
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BOBO the Clown
kind of a big deal
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1903 Springfield/ 03A3 and a Garand so maybe I am binary have same gun, my Dad hand carved the stock when he sportized it. With that said Its a safe queen, I hate the lock time recoil
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Re: Are you even a man?
[Re: DustyArmadillo]
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10/07/23 05:51 PM
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R83steve
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Love my Remington 760 BDL in left hand. It’s dropped a few deer since I got it in the mid 70’s.
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Re: Are you even a man?
[Re: DustyArmadillo]
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10/07/23 06:22 PM
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TKM
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Had one since the 60's, probably always will.
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Re: Are you even a man?
[Re: txtrophy85]
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10/07/23 06:54 PM
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jeffbird
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.30-06 is a fine round but the .300 win mag is the Lords caliber.
No need for the 06’ when they invented the win mag Concur. Shot a pig with a .300 Win Mag last week just because I felt like using it. I have a couple .30-06’s, but always seem to pick up a .308 or .300 Win Mag. The .300 Win Mag is very versatile and can run from mild to wild. Liking the .300 PRC as a refined version of Win Mag.
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Re: Are you even a man?
[Re: jeffbird]
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10/07/23 07:22 PM
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J.G.
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Liking the .300 PRC as a refined version of Win Mag. Absolutely! I didn't even order a .300 Win Mag reamer. But I did order a .300 PRC reamer. If a build is starting from scratch, with brass having to be ordered anyway, it is the better option. No to 7 STW or 7 RUM reamer, yes to 28 Nosler reamer.
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Re: Are you even a man?
[Re: J.G.]
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10/07/23 10:40 PM
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LonestarCobra
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Liking the .300 PRC as a refined version of Win Mag. Absolutely! I didn't even order a .300 Win Mag reamer. But I did order a .300 PRC reamer. If a build is starting from scratch, with brass having to be ordered anyway, it is the better option. No to 7 STW or 7 RUM reamer, yes to 28 Nosler reamer. Good thinking!
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Re: Are you even a man?
[Re: J.G.]
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10/07/23 11:20 PM
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You sure did, and you're on record! Remember what Smokey Bear says... The .300 Whelen is a winner and has been a winner for 120 years! OTOH...headstamps don't mean chit. It's all about WHAT bullet, WHERE does it hit, and HOW fast is it when it hits. Nothing else matters.
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Re: Are you even a man?
[Re: DustyArmadillo]
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10/07/23 11:28 PM
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Lazyjack
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I expect to always have an 06 bolt and a 1911 in .45 cal.
If the 2nd amendment was written just to include guns for hunting, why is there not an amendment to protect fishing poles?
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Re: Are you even a man?
[Re: Lazyjack]
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10/07/23 11:47 PM
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GasGuzzler
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I expect to always have a 1911 in .45 cal. Me too.
Pass the gravy.
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Re: Are you even a man?
[Re: RiverRider]
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10/08/23 12:36 AM
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J.G.
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You sure did, and you're on record! Remember what Smokey Bear says... I will shoot anything. That's my job. But I don't have to own just anything. Got a .300 Norma Mag coming next week. Powder charge begins at 84.0 gr And I'm not even concerned about it. Because it is a slow burn powder.
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Re: Are you even a man?
[Re: DustyArmadillo]
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10/08/23 01:00 AM
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Adchunts
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So if a .30-06 and a .45 in 1911 is the mark of a true man, I must be a super man cause I have the .338 Win Mag mentioned earlier and a 1911 in 10mm… 
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Re: Are you even a man?
[Re: DustyArmadillo]
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10/08/23 02:54 AM
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Mickey Moose
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Having two superior cartridges, 308 Win and 300 Win Mag, I have no need for a 30-whatever-you-asked-about.
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Re: Are you even a man?
[Re: DustyArmadillo]
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10/08/23 05:26 AM
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Creekrunner
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1 Rem model 700 LH that has killed a lot of plainsgame and baboons.
'Gave my 03A3, that my grandfather bought for $1.00 in a hardware store right after the Great War, to my son, after I put a decent trigger in it and a better scope on it. My uncle hand-carved the stock.
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...and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. Gen. 1:28
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Re: Are you even a man?
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10/08/23 05:41 AM
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ntxtrapper
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So if a .30-06 and a .45 in 1911 is the mark of a true man, I must be a super man cause I have the .338 Win Mag mentioned earlier and a 1911 in 10mm… 
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Re: Are you even a man?
[Re: DustyArmadillo]
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10/08/23 03:38 PM
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Smokey Bear
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I get a chuckle when I read where good shooters are whining about the recoil of a 30-06. When I was born in 1960, it was only 15 years after the end of WW2. I grew up around a lot of those men. The men of that era kicked all comers tails with the .45acp and 30-06. They were still their caliber of choice when they came back home. The era of manly men and their calibers of choice they used to kick the world’s tail is the basis of this discussion. When I compare the rugged men I grew up around to today’s metrosexuals, it is predictable that the 30-06 now makes them whine. Undisputed facts and the basis of this discussion.
Smokey Bear---Lone Star State.
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Re: Are you even a man?
[Re: DustyArmadillo]
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10/08/23 03:41 PM
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First deer rifle I owned was a Remmy 760 30-06 pump. Got it as a Christmas gift from my parents when I was 16. It shot horribly. Pie plate groups at 100 yards. Traded it for a .243 bolt rifle before the next season and never regretted it. Also never owned another rifle in that caliber. Guess that makes me a girly-man.
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Re: Are you even a man?
[Re: Smokey Bear]
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10/09/23 01:50 AM
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txtrophy85
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I get a chuckle when I read where good shooters are whining about the recoil of a 30-06. When I was born in 1960, it was only 15 years after the end of WW2. I grew up around a lot of those men. The men of that era kicked all comers tails with the .45acp and 30-06. They were still their caliber of choice when they came back home. The era of manly men and their calibers of choice they used to kick the world’s tail is the basis of this discussion. When I compare the rugged men I grew up around to today’s metrosexuals, it is predictable that the 30-06 now makes them whine. Undisputed facts and the basis of this discussion. In 1960 there were a lot fewer calibers in existence. No question the men of that era were tougher by nature than the average guy today, but if they would have had more choices they might have chosen other options. I personally don’t have a use for the .30-06. Too heavy a round for dedicated deer use and I shoot s .300 win for bigger game. My .300 with a good pad and a brake is a cream puff to shoot. My dads old .30-06 wasn’t terrible to shoot but wasn’t fun either.
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
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Re: Are you even a man?
[Re: Smokey Bear]
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10/09/23 02:01 AM
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unclebubba
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I get a chuckle when I read where good shooters are whining about the recoil of a 30-06. When I was born in 1960, it was only 15 years after the end of WW2. I grew up around a lot of those men. The men of that era kicked all comers tails with the .45acp and 30-06. They were still their caliber of choice when they came back home. The era of manly men and their calibers of choice they used to kick the world’s tail is the basis of this discussion. When I compare the rugged men I grew up around to today’s metrosexuals, it is predictable that the 30-06 now makes them whine. Undisputed facts and the basis of this discussion. The Garand is a 10 lb rifle, which significantly reduces felt recoil. It was also a semi-auto, which further reduces felt recoil. Pick up a BAR in 30-06, and even though it's lighter than a Garand, it's a soft shooter. Comparing a Garand to a modern, light weight bolt action sporter is apples to oranges.
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Re: Are you even a man?
[Re: unclebubba]
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10/09/23 02:48 AM
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Smokey Bear
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I get a chuckle when I read where good shooters are whining about the recoil of a 30-06. When I was born in 1960, it was only 15 years after the end of WW2. I grew up around a lot of those men. The men of that era kicked all comers tails with the .45acp and 30-06. They were still their caliber of choice when they came back home. The era of manly men and their calibers of choice they used to kick the world’s tail is the basis of this discussion. When I compare the rugged men I grew up around to today’s metrosexuals, it is predictable that the 30-06 now makes them whine. Undisputed facts and the basis of this discussion. The Garand is a 10 lb rifle, which significantly reduces felt recoil. It was also a semi-auto, which further reduces felt recoil. Pick up a BAR in 30-06, and even though it's lighter than a Garand, it's a soft shooter. Comparing a Garand to a modern, light weight bolt action sporter is apples to oranges. Heck bubba, I figured you to be old enough to remember bolt action 30-06’s were a rifle of choice back then. The men I grew up around handled a bolt 30-06 without much fuss. They weren’t soft like men today. That was the era of the Winchester model 70 with the Remington 700 riding on the model 70’s coat tail. 30-06 men are what the 270win targeted.
Smokey Bear---Lone Star State.
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