Ford is enjoying screwing customers made possible by the hoax known as Covid. We need a recession just to correct these greedy bastards.

https://www.kbb.com/car-news/ford-ceo-well-move-to-fixed-prices/

Ford plans to move to non-negotiated prices for all its vehicles, CEO Jim Farley told investors yesterday. Farley did not place a time frame on the decision.

The announcement came as part of Capital Markets Day — the first in-person conference for investors Ford has held since 2016.

Move May Apply to All Vehicles or Just EVs
Reports differ on exactly what Farley said. The Associated Press reports that the CEO “said Ford will go to non-negotiated vehicle prices.” But the Detroit Free Press says, “Non-negotiated prices will be part of improving the customer experience for electric vehicle [EV] shoppers,” suggesting that the policy may apply only to EVs.

They’ve already said a few times they were going to go this way. He also wants to get rid of dealerships.

Sometime last year they came out with 2 types of EV certifications and if the dealers didn’t want to play along, they were going to have their franchise license revoked. Ford wants to just go to a DTC model with fixed pricing because they see it like buying a T shirt online.

Looking it up again, it looks like they’ve amended a few of the things they’ve said because the dealerships have bucked it a bit

I'm not averse to fixed pricing, they don't make anything I can't say no to.

Yea...I don't care what Ford does. Not a fan of any of their products.

Won't need another vehicle until the wheels fall off the one I have now.

Still the best trucks on the road!

I said many years ago they need to get rid of the salesmen, pay their employees by the hour and put in a kiosk where I can get the keys to the truck I like on the lot and test drive it, look at the price and submit my financing if I choose to. And I was a car salesman, but it is a stupid game that most customers do not want to play.

You want to feel the impacts of a recession just to stick it to Ford? Why not just purchase a vehicle from one of the other 13 OEMs out there?

Sounds like a free country and capitalism to me. They can charge what they want and nobody has to buy their products either.

I believe all of them have been trying/wanting to move to a similar model.

Oh , that's just a statement about the state of everything in general that is F***** up as a result of Covid and BS that followed it. Just had an air conditioner replaced last week, it was a 2 ton unit that was over twice the price of a pre-Covid quote. Sometimes corrections are good for the long term.

My buddy buys his Fords from a dealer out in Sealy as their sales team doesn’t get commissions, so they aren’t pressuring the hell out of folks

I don't see a need for car dealerships and have zero problem with fixed pricing.

Bet they never get rid of the "Finance Manager." 'Got into a screaming match with one woman. We were paying cash, had had the vehicle for a week, but she didn't want to release the title until we'd sat through her hour-long bs sales pitch (aka How else can we screw the customer?") We got our title without following her "commands."

It is indeed a stupid, archaic business model. I'm gonna try to never buy new ever again, hopefully buy from another private seller. But Her Majesty might demand something new again. Maybe she'll be a widow by then.

Just another reason not to own another Ford. Their transfer cases don’t hold up in the woods if you actually need to use 4 wheel drive several times a week. Ford makes street trucks, for the nascar pants crowd.

Yep. Makes the process easier.

Chicken and the egg issue from my perspective. The dealers had "market adjustments" and the factories couldn't keep supply up. This is all repercussions of the mess the market was in 2020/2021.

I was buying used, then for a while it wasn't financially viable to buy used and then it was again the way to go in late 2021. I haven't looked recently but it appears my wife is starting to push for a new ride...be interesting to see what the market provides. I told her whenever she was ready we'd do it but the longer she waits I think the better the deal will be...I think 3rd/4th quarter things will get slim, starting to see people hang onto their money and the market start adjusting right now...with everything not just autos.

The salesmen will just move to a model where they are being paid on the vehicle financing.. sort of like mortgage brokers. You'll still have lot lizards trying to push you into a deal and trying to get you to finance over the longest period possible.

Looks like Stellantis will be gaining customers.

They’re already in that game. Seeing financing for up to 84 months or some crap now is just ridiculous. It’s that “what monthly payment do you want” BS game. Then they wrap up the lift kits and big tires and all that into the financing that gets interest on it too. Guess some folks out there just absolutely don’t want any equity in anything

Some of my funds probably have stock in them. I want all of them to be greedy and make money.

Very accurate

The wife has recent interest in a new Bronco to replace her 2015 Jeep. Not looking forward to any of this.