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Hog Bounty? #764553 06/17/09 11:32 PM
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Do hog bounties exist? If so, does anyone know which counties they would be in?



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Never heard of one.


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i dont think so, well maybe not yet



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Re: Hog Bounty? [Re: DSST_Construction] #764556 06/17/09 11:49 PM
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i havent heard of one yet, but they do need to exist and i have been wonderin if they will ever bring that up down here. especially in the counties where all the cattle raisers are. like lavaca gonzales, dewitt and that area since it is mostly graze land full of hogs! i know they give a few bucks in lavaca co. for a pair of yote ears. i wish they would do the same for pigs. then i wouldnt have to start guiding lol JK!


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Van Zandt Co. had one a few years ago.I think it was only 7.00 for a pair of ears.Not really worth the trouble.



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They don't need a hog bounty, if there was one it would just cost the tax payers of Texas more money. The hog problem is the farmer and rancher's problem. We (the tax payers) already spend too much money that we shouldnt be spending on hog control, like helicopters, studies, bla bla bla.


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so whose problem is the coyote???


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The person that ownes the land with coyotes.


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talked to a buddy down Junction way he is trapping hogs, and said Kimble county was paying $5.00 bounty on hogs


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The person that ownes the land with coyotes.




so ur sayin that in a county like lavaca county or gonzales, where most of its economy comes from the cattle ranchers, there should not be a system to promote eradicating the animals that harm this valuable industry which in turn keeps the entire county running???


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Yes that is what I'm saying. Why should tax payers have to pay for what the ranchers could take care of themselves for free or even make money on? If hogs were such a problem they would open their land to hunting. But they don't and I don't feel any sympathy for them.


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This is interesting...

So, the Texas Wildlife Services, formerly called the Texas Animal Damage Control Service, should no longer be in existence and therefore have no service for ANY landowner to control depredating coyotes, raccoons, skunks, opossums, feral hogs, etc. to keep those species below carrying capacity? If that agency wasn't around, the state and many states would be in worst shape than what they are now with depredation since most famers, ranchers and the average homeowner doesn't have skill to accurately trap those species on a regular basis. We're not talking with live/cage traps or a sardine or aluminum foil on the pan neithter.

And just HOW are the ranchers and farmers supposed to take care of those problems themselves and make money on it? Bringing hunters in to 'control' the depredation? We're not talking doing a little predator hunting or shooting, it's a much larger scale than that.


Re: Hog Bounty? [Re: kyotee1] #764565 06/18/09 04:22 PM
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I've heard through the grapevine that Texas is considering to start up a bounty on hogs
Have'nt seen anything on it, just heard it from some other people
Hope it passes


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I understand you work for the state and you rely on tax dollars. But the hog "problem" is not that much of a problem or more ranchers would open their land to hunters and trappers. I would like to see you numbers on all these land raping coons and skunks. I would also like to see your numbers where millions of our tax dollars have put even the smallest dent in the population of these vicious little critters. Throwing our tax dollars at this "problem" is kinda like the war on drugs great for your funding, bad for tax payers. If the ranchers want animal control, them let them pay for it.


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I understand you work for the state and you rely on tax dollars. But the hog "problem" is not that much of a problem or more ranchers would open their land to hunters and trappers. I would like to see you numbers on all these land raping coons and skunks. I would also like to see your numbers where millions of our tax dollars have put even the smallest dent in the population of these vicious little critters. Throwing our tax dollars at this "problem" is kinda like the war on drugs great for your funding, bad for tax payers. If the ranchers want animal control, them let them pay for it.




Ranchers, farmers and other homeowners DO pay for the depredation control...

If you would take the time and look into the Texas Wildlife Service, which is not TPWD and not affiliated either, you will see they do charge for any work that is done on any piece of property whether large or small.

Do a little research on just how much destruction from depredation by both furbearers and non-game animals cost the public and landowners a tremendous amount of money each year.

The landowner does NOT own the species in Texas, the general public does, or each and every individual in Texas. Rancher Joe doesn't own the coyotes, feral hogs, deer, squirrels, etc. on his/her ranch or farm or homesite, they belong to all of us.

You want to know the reason WHY so many ranchers or farmers do NOT want individuals on their land to hunt or allow them to help out with a depredating problem? It is for these particular reasons:

-They lease their land out to hunters already that have an agreement or contract either by season, year or day-lease.

-They hunt themselves, allow their family members, friends to hunt only.

-They do not allow any hunting on their land or will not allow anyone to hunt their land any more do to the unknowing if those allowed will respect their land like they do themselves. They have been burned by those who have been allowed in the past by: not closing gates that should be kept closed, keeping gates open that should remain open, not locking gates back and 'false-locking' them, leaving trash around instead of taking it with them, rutting up roads, cutting through pastures, stretching wire fences, allowing others on their property when only certain ones should be the only ones on there, getting rowdy when drinking too much or drinking alcohol when the landowner doesn't allow it, taking of species that were not agreed upon, etc.

All of the above is why it is SO hard for all of us to find places that will allow the average hunter, angler, trapper to get access to their land. There is still landowners who WILL allow some to access their land, but they will be cautious and will probably want to get to know you before giving that permission out.


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Re: Hog Bounty? [Re: kyotee1] #764569 06/18/09 05:51 PM
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alright nathan, since this is such an easy problem and if the rancchers would open up there land to hunting it would go away. explain this. I go hog hunting on a cumulative of about 2500 acres every night almost. if im not hunting a part of it, someone else that has permission is. guess what, we still see hogs at the feeders everynight, they still go to the pastures and root it up, and they are still in huge numbers!


Also, suppose i was an okra farmer, and i hate the deer because they eat all of my crop. so since it is MY problem, ill just start shooting them all. no i cant, they are the states deer. do u really think small scale hunting from leasing people or people with "permission" will be able to control the hogs.... be serious think about how much they breed a year. to really control and hopefully eradicate the hogs, it would take an extensive on going project. they did something similair many yrs ago with coyotes. pretty successful. there have been less since then.

BTW, just from the nature of ur posts, i would assume u grew up in the city (correct me if im wrong) and sooner or later, the hogs will be in ur front yard rooting up ur grass. whos problem is it then???? id bet u would say urs and u would take care of it urself by standing gaurd all night waiting for the hogs to come to ur yard and then chase em offf with a broom...


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I dont wanna pay a tax for someone being too lazy to hunt or trap hogs.


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There was a bounty in one of the county a few years back and I do believe it was in Van Zandt County as mentioned earlier in this post. That county had 500K designated just for feral hogs that were brought in dead, most likely just their scalp, and not sure how much per hog they paid, but that bounty pot was depleted within 3-4 months.

It would be costly, the money would have to come from some source and we wouldn't like having another tax increase to control feral hogs. The aerial gunning does work with hundreds of hogs being shot in a couple 2-3 days but not all regions of the state are habitat-suited for aerial gunning, especially East Texas or any location where the gunner and pilot would not be able to see the ground due to forest and undergrowth.


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hogs and coyotes we see on our place get owned. Seriously, the only way to thin out the population and keep them out of the pastures is to check them about every 30 minutes ,which isn't really possible. But I was sent this link *Tinks* a while back, and I'm sure all forecasts are relatively the same based on moon phase and such, but has been right on track (unless it has come a nice little shower, then all forecasts are off and expect them to be moving at full force) with the boars we have been shooting the last cpl years. I also don't have the "If I kill it, then I have to eat it" mentality when dealing with hogs, so each one shot, has coyote bait station potential.


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I have seen them come thru a very nice golf course and in one night totaly decimate two fairways and one putting green, I guess if they come into the city and do some of that for you, will it be the golf courses problem then?? do you honestly think the owner will not pass the cost on to you via green fees or whatever?? I dont know if you even play golf, but you can see where im going with it, Feral hogs will eventually become everyones problem



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What do you mean Cody??




I guess I dont get it


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