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Re: Panhandle pheasant reports [Re: Fishuhalik] #5366755 10/18/14 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted By: Fishuhalik
http://www.pheasantsforever.org/page/1/effectofhunting.jsp

Also take into consideration, roosters will absolutely kill hens in the fall/winter. I've never seen it personally but I know several people that have.
if you believe that, I have some ocean front property in Kansas I will sell you cheap


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Re: Panhandle pheasant reports [Re: colt45-90] #5368388 10/19/14 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted By: colt45
Originally Posted By: Fishuhalik
http://www.pheasantsforever.org/page/1/effectofhunting.jsp

Also take into consideration, roosters will absolutely kill hens in the fall/winter. I've never seen it personally but I know several people that have.
if you believe that, I have some ocean front property in Kansas I will sell you cheap


Ya, I don't know what I'm talking about. I didn't live in Pheasant Town USA. I've never spent untold hours watching birds out my front window. I have never talked to dozens of farmers that have owned ranches full of pheasants for their entire lives. & I definitely haven't done any research on the subject. Carry on


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Re: Panhandle pheasant reports [Re: kindall] #5381613 10/27/14 11:38 AM
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Re: Panhandle pheasant reports [Re: BlakeJ] #5411864 11/11/14 01:31 AM
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So we are getting pretty close to the opener, does anybody have any additional bird reports?

Re: Panhandle pheasant reports [Re: kindall] #5412301 11/11/14 03:49 AM
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I was up this weekend going to a tail water pit that usually holds ducks in the middle of a corn field. To get to it, you have to drive down a turn row that runs between two corn fields. The field to the north was being cut as I was driving down and I saw at least 15 birds fly from the north to the south field which had already been cut in front of the combine. There are quite a few more birds this season than last.


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Re: Panhandle pheasant reports [Re: TXPanhandler] #5414488 11/12/14 02:39 AM
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In what area were you hunting?

Re: Panhandle pheasant reports [Re: kindall] #5416712 11/13/14 01:25 AM
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Lamb County near Olton.


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Re: Panhandle pheasant reports [Re: TXPanhandler] #5418818 11/13/14 10:58 PM
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Thanks!

Re: Panhandle pheasant reports [Re: kindall] #5433241 11/20/14 04:28 PM
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I am in the field a few times every week and I have not seen many pheasant this year. More than in the past few years but nothing to write home about. I certainly hope everyone decides to wait it out another year.

Re: Panhandle pheasant reports [Re: kindall] #5437060 11/22/14 05:31 PM
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unfortunately that won't happen


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Re: Panhandle pheasant reports [Re: shooterwalter] #5442649 11/25/14 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted By: shooterwalter
Congratulations to you responsible land owners who want to let the numbers build up and not just go for quick, instant gratification shooting all the birds seen. I salute you.

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Walter, I appreciate your thoughts on the subject...BUT, my hunting pheasants every year quite possibly HELPS the birds MORE than it hurts them..allow me to explain...I take my rifle(s) and #4 buckshot...and spend a lot of time hunting coyotes, bobcats, foxes, skunks, etc., while pheasant hunting on my friends ranch...especially in poor pheasant years. In fact, when we can't find pheasant in good numbers, we usually just start varmint hunting to thin the ranks. In fact, occasionally, I will make a follow up pheasant/varmint trip in years with poor numbers. This is the only varmint hunting that takes place on the ranch and as such, if I didn't show up pheasant survival would be harder pressed. All things considered, I will continue to go each year, despite poor overall numbers.

As an aside, many pheasant outfitters will stock flight pen raised birds to supplement the pheasant population, based on the number of hunters they have wanting trips...low turnout will result in low supplemental stockings...the lower the supplemental stockings the harder the predation on the wild population. Just saying, don't be so fast to berate those that hunt every year regardless of the relative abundance of birds...I would suggest in the bad years, it is more important to continue to support pheasant hunting and use the opportunity to improve long term hunting relationships. Ultimately, we all want what is best for the game we pursue. Hope this information helps.

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Very informative info and I appreciate your efforts because I do the same thing, (shoot all varmints we see while hunting pheasant and quail). But let's keep encouraging all these other knuckleheads to keep thinking they need to wait another year to hunt so the populations will increase. Then we will have more to shoot and more places to go this yr.!!

Re: Panhandle pheasant reports [Re: lakeluvrJer] #5458642 12/05/14 02:58 AM
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crapicat, you make a great point, its always good to support the wild pheasant cause. And the local organizations that support the Chamber of Commerce hunts.

In addition, you are right the mean (year around 24-7 ground and aerial) meat eating predators should always be thinned out.
I have had great Panhandle country pheasant hunts without shooting a single wild pheasant, but missed a few or more than a few, its all still fun. I count all of the birds I flush (both hens and roosters) as part of the total pheasant fun.

Give us a report this weekend.

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Congratulations to you responsible land owners who want to let the numbers build up and not just go for quick, instant gratification shooting all the birds seen. I salute you.

walter


Walter, I appreciate your thoughts on the subject...BUT, my hunting pheasants every year quite possibly HELPS the birds MORE than it hurts them..allow me to explain...I take my rifle(s) and #4 buckshot...and spend a lot of time hunting coyotes, bobcats, foxes, skunks, etc., while pheasant hunting on my friends ranch...especially in poor pheasant years. In fact, when we can't find pheasant in good numbers, we usually just start varmint hunting to thin the ranks. In fact, occasionally, I will make a follow up pheasant/varmint trip in years with poor numbers. This is the only varmint hunting that takes place on the ranch and as such, if I didn't show up pheasant survival would be harder pressed. All things considered, I will continue to go each year, despite poor overall numbers.

As an aside, many pheasant outfitters will stock flight pen raised birds to supplement the pheasant population, based on the number of hunters they have wanting trips...low turnout will result in low supplemental stockings...the lower the supplemental stockings the harder the predation on the wild population. Just saying, don't be so fast to berate those that hunt every year regardless of the relative abundance of birds...I would suggest in the bad years, it is more important to continue to support pheasant hunting and use the opportunity to improve long term hunting relationships. Ultimately, we all want what is best for the game we pursue. Hope this information helps.
my .02, why not JUST varmint hunt, example, there are just (approximately 30,000 lions left in Africa, yet hunters choose to still shoot the pride male, which leave the female to breed to inferior males, which is not good for the species. if you are quail hunting and jump a 3 or 4 covey, how many are you going to shoot? I would not shoot any. your reasoning which some agree with make you feel better? county's that have low population of deer, have the one buck rule, if it was not in place those county's would soon not have ANY


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Re: Panhandle pheasant reports [Re: kindall] #5462365 12/07/14 02:41 PM
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Heard from a buddy yesterday that hunted around Spearman. 15 guys, 3 dogs. Ended up with 9 roosters.


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Re: Panhandle pheasant reports [Re: kindall] #5463457 12/07/14 11:38 PM
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The spearman report was our group, we had set a group limit of 10 birds and reached 9 without hunting very hard. At that point the guys decided it was time to start grilling/target shooting/beer drinking depending on what activity they were in the mood for. we saw quite a few more birds and had a few big flushes that sure had everyone looking forward to normal populations. All in all, we had a blast and everyone is optimistic about next year.

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