Wanted to tell yall about a new product a friend of mine developed. Over 3 years of engineering and testing has been done and the product is pretty unbelieveable. These will revolutionize bowhunting and reduce lost game significantly, if not all together. The difference between these and "mechanical" broad heads is that the arrow itself has a fixed blad broadhead, flies true, and the blades deploy using inertia opening INSIDE the animal for maximum devistation. No more worry about whether or not the mechanical will work, even if the blades didnt deploy, the arrow would act the same as any other fixed blade broadhead (it is important to note that not once have the blades not deployed, the design makes it impossible for a faulty deployment, but just thought I would add due to concerns most people have with mechanical broadheads). The added weight increases accuracy and maximizes kinetic energy (testing showed this using 55 pound to 80 pound draw weight, all of which can shoot this arrow). Not only that, but at the peak of the blades opening, there is over a 5 inch cutting diameter... I am representative for the company and will be happy to answer any questions or concerns regarding the arrow. you can ask on here, or call/text me a 713-eightninenine - 54fivefive. If you want to purchase some, let me know and I will get you an introductory deal. They come in a pack of 6, 3 ready to go arrows with inset blades and broadhead and 3 target arrows. There is also a "try it" option that includes one hunting arrow and one target arrow. Hope yall get as excited about this revolutionary product as we are. So far the average distance downed game has traveled is roughly 20 yards... and not one animal has been lost, including multiple bad shots (high back, one in front of hind quarters, etc.). The devastation these arrows inflict is truly shocking and words cannot describe how well they work. Main goal of the company is to reduce or erraticate lost game due to poor shot placement. I, like many other bow hunters, have felt the shame of losing a wounded animal. Now I do not worry about it and shoot more confidently than ever. Thanks for reading and check out the website for more information, pictures, and testimonials:

www.slasharrows.com

Makes one wonder when the first post is about someone trying to sell something.

Juss saying.

And usually post in third person, my friend, a guy I met, this guy a the gun show. Seen it plenty.
Although, they are pretty cool looking.

Just helping a friend get the word out and I told him I would post something on the forums I frequent. I don't get paid for selling these. Just happy to be able to finally tell people about a product I watched evolve from a cool idea to an awesome reality. He just told me he would sell some at a discount to get the product out there. Feel free to wait, you will see a lot more about them in the coming months. Owner had a delay that pushed back manufacturing times until after opening archery. So they are just wanting to hurry up and get some out there for people to use this deer season. Like I said before, happy to answer any questions or concerns. OR refer you to the owner if that makes you feel better.

Do you have any pictures of these arrows or graphics showing how they work?

There are some on the website.

Website says an outside cutting diameter of 2", you said over 5"...which is it? The gel shot shows deployment after impact as described, but it isn't fully deployed until 3-4" of penetration. How well do they work on angled shots? How easy are the blades to replace? What spine arrows and what grain are available to make sure they are tuned with the different bows on the market? What is the overall weight of the arrow combined with the insert and a broadhead?

1. The blades are 2 inches in length so when they open inside the animal maximum cutting diameter, at it's peak, is close to 5 inches. This happens when the blades are at a 90 degree angle from the shaft inside the animal where it matters most. The entry hole will be like a normal fixed blade cut, but the inside cuts and exit are where the devastation happens. Additionally, there is roughly 5 inches if total cutting surface with the broad and inset blades combined. See further explanation in the "performance" section. And sorry for the confusion on that! Did that answer your question?

2. Work great on angled shots. No difference in performance. However, the percentage of good shot placement is lower on angled shots, so this arrow will increase the success of obtaining a lethal blow on angled shots due to the damage done inside and on the exit. One of the shots made by a tester was a quartering away shot. Unfortunately, he hit the deer too far back and no vitals were hit (basically gut shot). The deer didn't make it 50 yards before expiring. Too much damage was done inside for the deer to keep going. Best of all, he didn't have to wait hours before putting his hands on his new trophy. Just minutes. Much more humane and the game was recovered.

3. Given the amount of force put on the blades it is not recommended that you reuse the arrow. But every arrow and broadhead company advises that. Sometimes the naked eye can't see damage done from impact or a miss resulting In a shattered rock! I would tell you that if the blades need replacing, time to pick up an unused one. I have a set of fixed blade arrows I use for hogs. And then I use these strictly for deer and other trophy game. $50 a shot is fine by me for knowing I will ethically kill my intended target. You will be surprised at how durable and well made the product is. There is an option to get replacement "o" rings on the website. You simply move the blades back into place slide a new o ring on and then put the broad head back on. I believe in testing we had roughly 30 shots into target before we started to see wear on the inset blades and that part of the arrow shaft (and you should have seen the targets, had to change them out every 3 to 5 shots because the arrow was hollowing them out and exiting the back after a few shots!) But again, these are most effective previously unshot (as all other arrows and broadheads).

4. The spine info is in the "performance" and "tech specs" sections. The heavier arrow may not fly as fast as your current arrows but the heavier the projectile, the more kinetic energy, and the more penetration and impact force. The forward weight is around 14% I believe (normal is 0 to 12%). But that is an advantage with all the new studies showing more forward weight results in better penetration. In Africa and Canada they are using upwards of 20 to 30% in forward weight with 800 to 1000 grain arrows (total weight). I can send you an article on this if you like. To sum up, we tested a number of different bows with this arrow (from 55 to 80+ draw weights) And all performed great. Happy to into more detail if you like.

5. Depends on your draw length. But at 29 inches, arrow + inset blades is at 404 grains plus 60 grain broadhead. So roughly 464 grains in total. Like I said before, the speed will decrease but the damage will greatly increase!

Let me know if I missed anything or if you have any other questions. Thanks.

Josh

... interesting... but lets be real, its a just a GIANT mechanical broad head with a fixed blade stuck on the end. Now i'm not saying no... I would like to see more. Cool thought

I'm not going to buy one, but I can see "your friend" making an absolute killing off of these. It seems to appeal to the fixed broadhead user, the mechanical user, and the gimmick bowhunter. This will make somebody rich with the correct marketing!

Nice an arrow longer then my bow

Compared to all others I guess it is GIANT... but its funny, I shoot tighter groups than I ever have with the practice arrows... something about the length and weight makes them fly truer... and when you shoot that tight of groups with an 80 pound monster, the added penetration makes it back breaking work to get the dang things out of the target! I cant wait to get out to the farm and unleash one... that is if the deer arent too full from all the acorns to make it my way...

As for seeing more about them, im trying to get him to send me some of the post kill photos and will post them when he sends them. Its hard to visualize without photos and video... just havent had time to upload them all yet... website just went live last week so still trying to work out the bugs...

Thats too bad! Wish we could change your mind. I hope he does, given his commitment to improving this awesome sport and the immense amount of personal time and money sunk into this project. The biggest problem I have always heard people have with mechanicals is the "what if it doesnt open?" Like I said in the first post, if they didnt open, then you have a fixed blade arrow still going through... but as stated before, we have never had the blades not deploy.

I told him to make a commercial for the outdoor/pursuit channels with heavy metal music, crazy slow motion shots, and hot girls holding/shooting them in camo bikinis... unfortunately he spent all of his money in the development and testing!!! haha maybe in the near future after enough sales have been made...

Interesting.....how many of the kills with this design were complete pass through?

I am curious about the legality of the arrow. Has this been run by TPWD. There is a 7/8 rule on mechanical broadheads as well as fixed. That 7/8" must be available on impact not internal of the animal. That is the way I read the rule. Maybe I am reading it incorrectly.

The fixed head on the front of the arrow appears to have a 7/8" cut and since it is fixed, it's on contact.

Interesting setup. 12.6 gr per in is what I think I read on the website. Some of the text on the site (at least on my tablet) is somewhat broken up and hard to read. If it is 12.6 gpi his KE statement is factually correct but really won't come into play until the arrow is a long way down range and your personal game ranging skills better be spot on even at closer ranges due to arrow drop. The young lady in the photo may be a world class archer for all I know but with her way too long draw length bow and floating anchor point I'd have to see it to believe it. Increased FOC can help accuracy can improve accuracy in a marginally tuned bow but anything above 10% is usually more than enough and a well tuned bow and good archer can get by with less. The other thing I noted is that in your first post you said you were a rep for the company but later said you get nothing out of it, did I read that right? I believe I'll pass but good luck to you.

Like the product but the price tag will keep me away.

I really dont think they are that expensive... They are cheaper for me... 6 Easton FMJ arrows = 129.99... 3 rage broadheads = 39.99... total of 169.98...

The target arrows can double as "hog" arrows or hunting arrows you can equip with a traditional broadhead... So 6 arrows and 3 broadheads for $20 cheaper...

Appreciate the feedback though... I am forwarding back all comments to him so things like this help!

She is not a world class bow hunter... She is my wife and got into the sport a few years ago. That is her new bow and we hadnt got it adjusted at the time of of the photos... Also, given we are not professional models/archery professionals, holding your draw for minutes at a time while they snap a million photos really reduces you ability to keep perfect form, haha. You are correct, just helping out as a "rep" - promoting and answering questions... I think its funny that so many are focused on that. I am excited about what I have seen and have wanted to help him given the innovation of this product. Being a banker and having an MBA has given me a passion for entrepenuership and this combines my two loves, business and hunting. Maybe one day I can quit my day job and be a "pro" for the company, hunting all over the world and staring in a Slash Arrow Outdoor Channel show... but until then I just get a few arrows (and that is more than enough given how awesome they are).

If you are paying 129.99 for 6 FMJ arrows you need to find another place for arrows. That is $55 more than the going rate of $74.99 around here for FMJ

I dont remember what I paid... just did a google search and cabelas came up at 129.99... but I remember paying at least $100 after they were cut and fletched (but that was 2 seasons ago)... Also, mine are the heaviest they make so that might make a difference (but I dont know if it does)... if that is the case then Slash arrows are $20 or $30 more than my set up. Something I personally would pay for them...

I was thinking the same thing...

Ok here is my first real question... how does it work on the rest? how does it not catch? whisker biscuit or drop away only???

I would assume its a good 6-8 inches longer than a standard arrow you would use

Navasot, ok just went poking around the website...

http://slasharrows.com/pages/techspecs

look at the pick of the chick. she is at full draw and the WHOLE blade apparatus is in front of the rest. for me that mean the blades aren't IN THE ARROW... This is just a new GIANT broadhead that you slap a fixed blade on the fron... Not say it wont cut a giant hole but it is what it is...

The arrow she has was the smallest he has had manufactured when we took the photos, 27 inches, but her draw was set at 25 so its longer on hers... he is waiting on the smaller arrows to be manufactured... but they are coming. She used the previous prototype last year (basically same arrow without the metal casing) which just makes the arrow last much longer, but he wanted to finished arrows on the website (and not the set he made her last year). Look at my picture for reference... the arrow is carbon fiber with a metal casing around the arrow to absorb the impact of the blades opening backwards... THEY ARE IN THE ARROW... The arrows are designed to work with all rests... We have tested with drop aways, fixed, and whiskers... the added arrow length (of an inch or 2) makes it to where the blades will not catch.

Send me some of them to try out and demo and Ill post a thorough review on here for everyone!

Can I join and be the old fart on the show that cracks the corny jokes... (as Long as I get to hunt )

Hmmmmm no response. So I guess we may NOT be getting complete pass through on shots.

I have had all pass throughs... if you shoot above 60 pounds should be no different than any other because these carry more KE and penetrate deeper... we are still exploring lower poundage for traditional and women but compound above 60 have had no problem!

Sorry i missed your question!

Been busy getting these things out!

Do the blades sit on the near side of the rest when at full draw? Stop dodging and coming up with long-winded stories.

If the DO NOT pass over the rest when u draw, and then again when the arrow is released then they are NOT in the arrow. You just built an arrow with a broad head attatched

Again not doubting it cuts a big hole and will kill deer... but it is what it is

My biggest? Is if you are not the inventor why wouldn't the guy that started it just make his own handle and join THF. I mean I would think if he is the brain behind the design he could perhaps portray a better understanding of his products to the people he is trying to distribute it to you. I mean I'm sure you are a close friend and have been involved a lot with the process but a lot of times it kind of sounds a lot like a middleman without total understanding of the products he's promoting. I am all for ensuring kills retrieval of game and if it really works it will get out and people will use it there is no doubt you may almost have to give some away though to get that word out good luck!

My grim reapers work every time and fly with field points. Why would I change my setup for this? I'm paper tuned with my arrows just like these other guys are. So I ditch my fmj arrows and try these? Uh. No

Wonder if the people that came up with 3 or 4 blade heads were grilled when they first came out? Oh I bet the native Americans went postal when other tribes went to steel and dropped the flint! Wasn't that long ago that the trad crowd questioning the compound coming of age, fast forward to the mech b/h scenario and xbow debates! We still on regular occasion have the fixed b/h versus the mech crowd standing on opposing pulpits with each of their own success stories. So this poster found or has some association with a new concept....kudos to having a belief, faith, or hope in something. Maybe a fad or the next great thing time will tell.

ill make yall a deal on a pair, one practice and one hunting arrow for $40.

They are on the far side... the around 3 inches longer for that reason. The blades are inside the arrow. You can attach any broadhead you want to the end. The guys at Texas Trophy were putting Rage heads on and punching 4x4 holes in targets... it is not an elongated broadhead. it is an elongated arrow. i dont think I have dodged any questions, at least not on purpose and am sorry you thought I was.

No you havnt and have been very professional about your post. Most would have went crying to mommy by now with this many not negative but more very questionable and informative post....

???? dude... we set up bows for the arrows to barely set on the arrow rest at full draw... Just about he the only thing in front of the rest is the broad head. Call a spade a spade bro. This is an arrow with a dedicated mechanical broadhead fixed into the front. Here is another test, if I put a field point on the front of this thing, we'll call it a penetrator, and shoot it, does it or does it not by itself function as a broad head... If I put a slick trick on there does it not basically turn it into a hybrid slick trick/swacker. The way the lever open system works is virtually identical. you just are running the blades longer. Permanently attaching it to the arrow does not mean its in the arrow... I can permanently attach a swacker, that broad head hides the blades in the tip, so if the tip is attached to the arrow permanently the tip is "part of the arrow" right? there fore that would mean the tip hides the blade in the arrow... Or does the fact that you can attach another broadhead in front of it make it "in the arrow". Because it is behind a traditional broadhead?

I'm done arguing semantics with a yes man who is just trying to sell... Post when you get one that keeps the arrows natural balance point basically the same and is actually in the shaft of the arrow, not hanging off the end. If its in the shaft, then it will be drawn OVER the rest.
also the idea of it opening inside the animal is no good for me, I you really want to impress me make it deploy when the FRONT broadhead hits so it is cut on contact the full size of the blades... if its opeining IN the animal, what if I hit high and that giant blade hits a vertebra? will the whole thing twist? will the blade snap? you aren't gona convence me that long and tin a blade will break bone that thick.

I'm not saying you arnt poking GIANT holes in whatever you shoot... but what i'm saying is your just expanding on a broadhead idea that is a good design. But I hate people using dumb hype to sell something...

I guess I personally shoot longer arrows than you as I have never had it that close to my rest. As for the rest, look at it however you like. It is a beautiful work of art that is turning a lot of peoples heads. I guess I am a "yes man" for saying yes to trying something new... but a lot of us bow hunters are "yes men"... I remember the first time I shot the double cam Monster, and said yes... I also remember the first time I broke down and bought a rage broadhead over my old trusty muzzy, I said yes again... in both instances I was pleasantly surprised and happy I said "yes"... your comment doesnt just insult me, but insults everyone else who has said yes to a new and innovative product...

per your comment regarding a high shot hitting the vertebra, I personally whacked an axis doe who ducked my shot. The arrow went in just under her spine and cut straight through her spine (severing it completely in half)... she dropped instantly... recovered the arrow and later used it on a hog... Should be posting a video on the website within the next day or two showing the shot and after math as only hard evidence could ever convince a naysayer (a "no" man) such as yourself (although lets be real, pretty sure there is no convincing this guy! haha).

Dont know how anything I have said would be referred to a "hype". Hype would infer that I have lied or misrepresented this product in some way. I dont feel I have hyped it up to a point that is unrealistic. This product obviously isnt for everyone, but why push others away from something they may like just because it doesnt meet YOUR standards??? Say what you want, but "Sales" is AMERICAN... "innovation" is AMERICAN... and "huge blades shooting out of an arrow causing an immense amount of devastation" is AMERICAN!

I will now be focusing my efforts answering answering questions and "hyping" the product elsewhere... So you get your wish CatEater... I will happily leave you to bashing me and this product without rebuttal...

But to the others out there, if you want to be a "yesman" like me and try something awesome go to the website and order some. If you do so in the next week or two (before they hit the archery shops), input the following discount codes to get a discounted set:

for the 3 hunting and 3 target option - input "friend of josh" in discount field for a $20 discount
for the 1 hunting and 1 target option - input "single discount" in discount field for a $10 discount

the discount field is on the second page of the checkout process at the top.

Good luck to yall this season!