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Re: Thermal/ Night vision help
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08/13/14 01:46 PM
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I'll post some 800 yard 1/2 mile thermal video kills with the FLIR T-75 when I get a chance. Are you saying you already have video on file and will post up when you get time OR Are you saying that you are going to go into the field and for the sake of demonstration related to this thread you are going to capture an 800 yard killshot. If the latter.... You may be the Babe Ruth of hog whackin!
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Re: Thermal/ Night vision help
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08/13/14 02:36 PM
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I'll wack them with my handloaded 175 grain Sierra GameKings, if you'll stack them! Get ready for the thermal suspense, have patience, the wait will be worth it!
I spend my money on dogs, hunting, racing, women, and whiskey - the rest I waste.
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Re: Thermal/ Night vision help
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08/13/14 02:46 PM
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I'll wack them with my handloaded 175 grain Sierra GameKings, if you'll stack them! Get ready for the thermal suspense, have patience, the wait will be worth it! Obligatory pictures of the daytime setup Now THIS should be good... Goodluck
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Re: Thermal/ Night vision help
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08/13/14 03:00 PM
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One of my property corners has 4 straight miles of powerline grade 120 feet wide. I will mow the weeds and dog fennels out there with the tractors and then mow down the hogs with the FLIR T-75 Thermal Weapon Scope Clip-On in front of my ELCAN 1.5-6X-42mm day scope on one of my numerous .308s and video record the entire event at night though numerous FLIR thermal video cameras for your viewong pleasure, including a nice FLIRONE on my IPhone too! In fact, the ENTIRE kill will be thermal and thermal only, from the FLIRONE Iphone, to the FLIR M-324 Pan/Tilt, to the FLIR LS-64, to the FLIR M-18, to the FLIR PS-32R, to the FLIR T-75! If you are lucky, I will also film it in complete Technicolor/Panavision for your viewing pleasure!
I spend my money on dogs, hunting, racing, women, and whiskey - the rest I waste.
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Re: Thermal/ Night vision help
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08/13/14 03:14 PM
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I'll wack them with my handloaded 175 grain Sierra GameKings, if you'll stack them! Get ready for the thermal suspense, have patience, the wait will be worth it! Obligatory pictures of the daytime setup Now THIS should be good... Goodluck Here is what a little part of it looks like during the daytime: Now, do you also want me to also include a certified check for what I paid for it?
I spend my money on dogs, hunting, racing, women, and whiskey - the rest I waste.
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Re: Thermal/ Night vision help
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08/13/14 03:30 PM
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I will mow the weeds and dog fennels out there with the tractors and then mow down the hogs with the FLIR T-75 Thermal Weapon Scope Clip-On in front of my ELCAN 1.5-6X-42mm day scope
In fact, the ENTIRE kill will be thermal and thermal only, from the FLIRONE Iphone, to the FLIR M-324 Pan/Tilt, to the FLIR LS-64, to the FLIR M-18, to the FLIR PS-32R, to the FLIR T-75!
If you are lucky, I will also film it in complete Technicolor/Panavision for your viewing pleasure! The budget for this production will far exceed that of most hunters however that won't diminish it's AWESOMENESS! Post event, maybe the Mayor will come out to present an token of appreciation - queue the music, schedule a parade! A trailer should be made to go along with the build-up to the event and of course the masses will clamor for a sequal Anyhow in anticipation of this takedown I have modified my sig in order to demonstrate my commitment to cheering you on. HTXH
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Re: Thermal/ Night vision help
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08/13/14 03:56 PM
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haha, and I will carefully measure the actual kill distance shot with my Leopold laser range finder...
I spend my money on dogs, hunting, racing, women, and whiskey - the rest I waste.
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Re: Thermal/ Night vision help
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08/13/14 04:01 PM
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This is cracking me up! How far away are we from the OP question now? Or is this all still somehow related? I don't even know anymore Seriously though, if you make a video of an 800 yard thermal kill shot, I WANT TO SEE THAT VIDEO!! If you can do it this way I can do it this way or this way
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Re: Thermal/ Night vision help
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08/13/14 04:09 PM
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A trailer should be made to go along with the build-up to the event and of course the masses will clamor for a sequal HTXH You meant to say "The sounders will clamor for a squeal..." :
I spend my money on dogs, hunting, racing, women, and whiskey - the rest I waste.
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Re: Thermal/ Night vision help
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08/13/14 04:09 PM
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I'll wack them with my handloaded 175 grain Sierra GameKings, if you'll stack them! Get ready for the thermal suspense, have patience, the wait will be worth it! Obligatory pictures of the daytime setup Now THIS should be good... Goodluck Almost as good as Tyler here at UNV telling the masses why the T3 is not a good thermal device and telling folks how TNVC, (well me) is telling stories and how I needed to get them straight about how we supposedly do not train in NV officially and that I somehow "changed my story" because I edited a post to add some facts? I like a good call out too, and I'll wait for his review of the T3 and T75 shortly, (but I my guess he never owned one, nor ever shot with one...Also want to hear how he officially trains in NV so we can all learn. I want to know his PID ranges on the T3 and T75, what he thinks of the algorithm's and software driving the T3 and what it does for Target Acquisition on a human being that may shoot back. This would be a good start. Heck, it's funny but we still travel (my WHOLE staff) I insure they take 2 training sessions a year from some of the best instructors out there all expenses paid. I can supply instructors names and course of instruction if need be to you for validation if needed. :-) We have no ego when it comes down to training, so please, if this is a real call-out I can send Benny here our resumes backed up with references of who what and where. ( "Now THIS should be good...") I get the T3 is 26K and the T75 is 16K, but for true long range engagements, nothing out performs these 2 clip-on devices in the commercial market. Edit to add, Texas buckeye is correct this is off topic but look forward to any PM's.
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Re: Thermal/ Night vision help
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08/13/14 05:34 PM
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I need someone to teach me a bit here on Night vision and thermal. I have a customer we just build a custom 7.08 for that is planning on using it for nothing but hogs out to 800 yards. We were going to put a CDS scope on it from leupold then he asked me about using thermals and if there was a thermal scope with turrets that would work in day and night. or if there was an add on to a scope that would make it work as a thermal at night and then a normal scope in the day Teach me please. I have the gun side covered but all the new night time stuff is out of my expertise Here is OPs original post, clearly defines his customer's mission objective as hog killing at 800 yards, next sentence with thermal at night. Skypup says he will post a video of an 800 yard pig kill with thermal. These two statements are near exact matches (relative), one guy saying I'd like to know IF it can be done and another saying I WILL show you it can be done. What clouds the thread is the other back and forth - so please don't associate me to that, I'm not calling anybody out nor do I need proof of credentials (training or otherwise). I was upfront at beginning of post that the OP could reachout to multiple vendors, it is sound policy to do that when the mission objective is a lofty one. So with that said, I am still stoked at the privaledge of viewing a long range all thermal dispatch of a Swine target. HTXH (Benny)
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Re: Thermal/ Night vision help
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08/15/14 03:27 PM
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I handloaded up some 64 grain mil-spec NATO tracers so you can watch them drill right into some long range hog brains in the thermal video.
I spend my money on dogs, hunting, racing, women, and whiskey - the rest I waste.
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Re: Thermal/ Night vision help
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08/15/14 03:28 PM
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Maybe they will be hot enough to light up his skull with the FLIRONE when I walk up to his corpse?
I spend my money on dogs, hunting, racing, women, and whiskey - the rest I waste.
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Re: Thermal/ Night vision help
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08/15/14 04:55 PM
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What range are you zeroed at?
What is MIL elevation adjustment at 800 yards for a 64 gr 556 tracer?
Also what do you figure energy is on target at that distance?
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Re: Thermal/ Night vision help
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08/15/14 05:03 PM
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What range are you zeroed at?
200 meters
What is MIL elevation adjustment at 800 yards for a 64 gr 556 tracer?
Exactly what the bullet-drop compensating reticule in my NATO mil-spec BDC scope shows
Also what do you figure energy is on target at that distance?
Enough to penetrate to the center of a hogs brain
I spend my money on dogs, hunting, racing, women, and whiskey - the rest I waste.
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Re: Thermal/ Night vision help
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08/15/14 07:36 PM
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Re: Thermal/ Night vision help
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08/15/14 08:19 PM
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Not accounting for the hand loading aspect, but a 64gr .223/5.56 round zeroed at 200 yds and shot to 800 yards would drop aprox 260 inches, that's well over 30 MOA....and even with as little as a 5mph wind to the side can account for a wind drift of close to 60 inches. Not saying it isn't possible or anything... Edit, forgot to add the bullet energy at 800 yards is a measly 145lbs. Still possible to crack a skull with that though
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Re: Thermal/ Night vision help
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08/15/14 09:37 PM
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It's a good thing the hogs I be killing are not mathematicians and never know what hit them!
I spend my money on dogs, hunting, racing, women, and whiskey - the rest I waste.
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Re: Thermal/ Night vision help
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08/16/14 07:41 PM
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Flir T-75 is very very nice long range military thermal weapons scope indeed! 100mm germanium lens compared to the 35mm on the T-70s:
I spend my money on dogs, hunting, racing, women, and whiskey - the rest I waste.
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Re: Thermal/ Night vision help
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08/16/14 11:24 PM
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Re: Thermal/ Night vision help
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08/17/14 02:25 AM
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I first mounted the T-75 on my 556 in front of my Truijicon TA02 LED 4x-32mm, it was real difficult to do First I unclipped the LaRue mount on the T-70, clipped on the T-75 LaRue mount, and turned on the T-75 and fired a bullseye @ 100 yards ten seconds later! I loaded up 50 tracers to try out filming the trajectory of the bullet flight using the T-75: These are the military red top tracers bullets: Tried it out tonight, it is incredible to say the least, very long range thermal instrument. I filmed a thermal view of a large hog on a powerline grade out back of the house @ 500 yards, tried to stalk him but he disappeared into the brush before I could get setup to get a shot as I did not have my tripod or shooting stick with me tonite. Will work on the video later on... Did I say this thing KICKS SOME SERIOUS ARSE in the dark?
I spend my money on dogs, hunting, racing, women, and whiskey - the rest I waste.
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Re: Thermal/ Night vision help
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08/17/14 02:52 AM
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Using the 4X ACOG TA02LED-32mm, it has a little bit less than 1/2 the FOV of my T-70, which is disturbing when first observing this, but I am getting used to it. Obviously this beast is designed for accurate long range shooting and anything under 200 yards will be difficult to zero-in on when first trying to pick it up after seeing it with my LS-64 first. I will try it in front of my ELCANs soon, that should work even better as I can quickly switch from 1.5X to 6X in an instant for a much larger FOV. Here is a nice FLIRONE pic of the UTV, you can see the FLIR M-324XP shows up as hot, this is due to the electro-servo motors keeping the unit aligned. There are different motor torque setting to prevent deviation or movement of the thermal while crossing rough terrain, I keep the torque settings on low to conserve battery power when I am hanging out observing for long periods of time....
I spend my money on dogs, hunting, racing, women, and whiskey - the rest I waste.
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Re: Thermal/ Night vision help
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08/17/14 12:35 PM
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Quite a process, the FLIR one gives some interesting views for sure and the T-75 looks impressive. Keep us posted
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