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#4922379 - 01/20/14 03:17 PM Brittany
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This is a really broad question that may have already been addressed but can a Brittany be a good waterfowl dog, primarily for ducks?

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#4922431 - 01/20/14 03:41 PM Re: Brittany [Re: Goldenboy30]
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Yes

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#4922667 - 01/20/14 05:53 PM Re: Brittany [Re: Goldenboy30]
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Yes, but it wouldn't be my first choice.
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#4922677 - 01/20/14 05:58 PM Re: Brittany [Re: bill oxner]
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Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Yes, but it wouldn't be my first choice.
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#4923456 - 01/21/14 03:58 AM Re: Brittany [Re: Goldenboy30]
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I couldn't imagine my dogs sitting still and quiet in a duck blind.

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#4923557 - 01/21/14 06:48 AM Re: Brittany [Re: Goldenboy30]
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What would be y'all's first choice be?

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#4923611 - 01/21/14 07:35 AM Re: Brittany [Re: Goldenboy30]
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We have 7 Brittanies and even as much of a Brittany guy as I am, a Brittany wouldn't be my first choice either if Duck hunting was going to be my primary thing. But if you are set on a Britt., I would look into a Good french Brittany breeder & find a started pup that has had some water dog training & is showing the drive for it. Out of our 7, only two of them would make a good duck dog. Just my opinion.
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#4923647 - 01/21/14 07:54 AM Re: Brittany [Re: Goldenboy30]
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Originally Posted By: Goldenboy30
What would be y'all's first choice be?


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#4923678 - 01/21/14 08:12 AM Re: Brittany [Re: Goldenboy30]
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A Brittany breeder that test in navhda would be where I would look
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#4923700 - 01/21/14 08:20 AM Re: Brittany [Re: Goldenboy30]
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Originally Posted By: Goldenboy30
What would be y'all's first choice be?
Labs or Boykins would be the popular choices. Seeing as how they were bred for that purpose

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#4924053 - 01/21/14 11:11 AM Re: Brittany [Re: Goldenboy30]
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My French Brit came from a breeder in Ardmore Oklahoma. He imports strictly euro bloodlines for brood stock, and 8 years ago when we bought ours had about 6+ males and 10-12 females in his breeding program at the time, and is a fulltime breeding kennel strictly for FB's. I'd buy another one from him without hesitation, as mine is true to her TAN Standard of Breed to the letter in temperment and conformation.

The name of his kennel is Rolling Red Prairie...or in french..."de la Savanne Rouge". Try Mr. R.L. Dalrymple, 2640 Springdale Rd, Ardmore.,OK 580-223-8782. You will need to reserve a spot on his waiting list, as we did, and he ships nationally in the US.

You can also find him in Google...and the next nearest FB breeders I considered were in Iowa & South Dakota at double the price or more.
Ron
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#4924551 - 01/21/14 02:29 PM Re: Brittany [Re: WileyCoyote]
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Originally Posted By: WileyCoyote
My French Brit came from a breeder in Ardmore Oklahoma. He imports strictly euro bloodlines for brood stock, and 8 years ago when we bought ours had about 6+ males and 10-12 females in his breeding program at the time, and is a fulltime breeding kennel strictly for FB's. I'd buy another one from him without hesitation, as mine is true to her TAN Standard of Breed to the letter in temperment and conformation.

The name of his kennel is Rolling Red Prairie...or in french..."de la Savanne Rouge". Try Mr. R.L. Dalrymple, 2640 Springdale Rd, Ardmore.,OK 580-223-8782. You will need to reserve a spot on his waiting list, as we did, and he ships nationally in the US.

You can also find him in Google...and the next nearest FB breeders I considered were in Iowa & South Dakota at double the price or more.
Ron


Was that bloodline known for retrieving ability. I spent three years looking for my first Vizsla partly because of that.

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#4925007 - 01/21/14 06:25 PM Re: Brittany [Re: Goldenboy30]
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Just a response to CCBirdddogman's suggestion to the OP to find a good French Brit breeder, for a resource on a scarce breed from when I was looking. This was the only FB breeder anywhere in Oklahoma & Texas that was listed in the French Brit Breeder's website when I was shopping for a dog 8 years, when I was was willing to travel or have a dog shipped to me to get what I wanted.

Mr Dalrymple makes no claim on the habitability of his French Brits, but does hunt them as regularly as possible on quail in west Texas.

My dog was acquired in lieu of a planned small framed Lab specifically as an under 35lb Companion Dog 1st and foremost as required as part of her Standard of Breed, that had the possibility if I was going to survive the medical condition I moved to the Lake Texoma house to determine. After numerous medical procedures over an extended period of time and am still addressing to some extent, obviously I am still here. The FB I bought however has never been given the opportunity to exercise her bloodline heritage of hunting both both fur & feathers completely, not because of any shortcoming on her part, or her breeds part, but because of my ongoing issues.

She hunts fur aggressively, pointing and flushing on command naturally -this is a Spaniel we are talking about & not a At Heel Retriever, retrieves naturally and answers voice and hand commands with my self taught minimal training as well as any Do All field dog I've been around. My dog also is totally biddable - not aggressive or looking to fight - in a crowd of strange dogs and people as required by her Standard of Breed. She also is one of the best guard dogs I've ever had, responding 24/7 to strange cars, people or animals not recognized as neighbors, which vital in the sparsely populated waterfront lake community where we are located adjacent to Corp Land, as required by her Standard of Breed requirements. I've never had a breakin or theft but have had numerous trespassers back when the COE park in front of us was active with the illegal drunken crowds common to uncontrolled/unpatrolled areas of Lake Texoma. Every occupied house around me has dogs, some are super sound sleepers like a neighbor behind me who had all his tackle stolen off his front porch and both of his yappy rugrat Chiwawa's and his Lab were sleeping soundly just inside the front door...while mine was yelling her head off inside my front door about 65 yards away. Too bad I can't see my neighbors front porch, as I had stepped out on the back porch with a shotgun stoked with 3" 000 and heard the thief run off with my dog sounding like she was the baddest dog in the world at my back fence. My neighbors dogs never woke up.

I agree French Brits are not my #1 choice for a pure water fowl dog either, IMO a Chessie or Lab would be better no question.

French Brit's were bred for several hundred years as the French Peasant's dog that had to live inside with the family so they had to be a smallish animal but large enough to get the jobs done of: protect the house, chase off intruders, tolerate the children & farm animals without damage, and hunt fur and feather equally well to feed the family. Mine fulfills that bloodline requirement completely, which is a good thing since my lifestyle closely resembles that of a French Peasant....except for the subsistence hunting they did not being allowed on the Corp property in front of my house.

But I ran Michigan/Canadian bloodline Golden Retrievers for some years as a do all family companion & hunting dog, and am at least a little more than passingly familiar with puddle duck hunting for over 30+ years. I've never hunted Geese, except as a DIY pass shooter or big water decoy sets like Texoma except in Michigan from drift boats for Diverducks, but concentrated on smaller under 50-100 acre lakes with under 50-60 decoy sets in East Texas or that drew flocks from Tawakoni, or on the east end of Tawakoni from the Dam to the 2 mile bridge, or the LBJ Nat'l Grassland lakes since the early 1960's or the Red River in Fannin County where I learned to hunt ducks.



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#4925407 - 01/21/14 09:02 PM Re: Brittany [Re: Goldenboy30]
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Always enjoyed your posts in the dog forum. I have owned, raised, trained, and hunted a brittany too. One of my favorite breeds and they do have a wonderful history don't they. When I went to Vizslas I knew in advance I would be using them for retrieving waterfowl some of the time. Not something many do with them, so you can imagine it was a big consideration in what breeder I went with. So I was just curious why that breeder. After I posted my question I remembered how French Brittanys are larger than American Brittanys. I figured that was going to be the reason. And if I were wanting to have a Brit double for some waterfowl retrieving I would look for a French Brittany breeder. The breed being so involved in NAVHDA events it is certainly a versatile breed. But I agree with your response to the ops question. A lab or Chessie would be a much better choice if that is mostly what the dog would be used for.
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#4925653 - 01/21/14 11:00 PM Re: Brittany [Re: Goldenboy30]
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Actually the Standard of Breed for an Epagneul Bretton aka French Brit I beleive to be a tad smaller than a the American Brit..but then it's been so long since I owned an AB I can't be sure. I'll try and find my FB S of Breed or TAN paperwork and confirm but FB's I think are 28-32 lbs for the females and 32-35/6 lbs for the male, and both are approx 14-16"s tall at the withers.

An old customer of mine in El Reno, Gene Sears Sr & his son Geno ran ABrits that were HUGE, as tall and heavy boned as Pointers and heavy at pushing 50+ lbs, back when I was running skinny long and lean Shoot to Retrieve foot hunter styled Setters. Those Oklahoma dogs were twice as big as my FB, even as fat as she gets if I am not careful to pull the winter weight off of her in the Spring, that comes from being spayed, and me not being able to run her couple miles a day anymore.

Did you ever know Lee Spencer (Hunter Bradlee Sporting Goods on Nwest Hwy at Preston Center) and his buddy Charlie Tippit ( the Carrollton restaurant guy on Belt Line ) that ran American Brit's competively in the '70's & 80's?
Ron
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