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#4252027 - 05/13/13 01:11 PM Leupold VX-6 vs. VX-R
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I am trying to decide on a scope for my next rifle (heavy bbl .300 Win Mag), which I will hopefully be purchasing in the next couple months. I am trying to figure out if there is a substantial difference in quality between the new Leupold VX-6 and their VX-R line.

I was able to handle one of the new VX-6 scopes in 3-18x50mm at the NRA Convention a couple weeks ago....and it was very nice, but I am also considering the VX-R in 4-12x50mm.

The VX-6 goes for $1,300 from OpticsPlanet.com and the VX-R goes for $650. Does anyone know if there is a difference in the coatings, or overall quality, between the two scopes? If not, I have a hard time justifying the extra expense of the VX-6 (which is exactly double) merely for a slightly wider range of magnification.
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#4252363 - 05/13/13 03:39 PM Re: Leupold VX-6 vs. VX-R [Re: Eland Slayer]
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VX6 has ever so slightly better "glass" and the 6x magnification.

VXR has glass comparable to a Conquest, Trijicon Accupooint, etc.
Maybe even a tiny bit better.

Both share the same well done illumination system.

I have plenty of time with all of them in low light.
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#4252375 - 05/13/13 03:42 PM Re: Leupold VX-6 vs. VX-R [Re: ccoker]
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Originally Posted By: ccoker

VXR has glass comparable to a Conquest, Trijicon Accupooint, etc.
Maybe even a tiny bit better.



I thought the VX-Rs were just a 30mm tubed VX2 with illumination, is that not the case? I also have read that the VX6 line is on par with the Swaro Z3, but maybe not?
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#4252408 - 05/13/13 03:53 PM Re: Leupold VX-6 vs. VX-R [Re: aggiehunter03]
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No
Far from it
Leupold really nailed the VX-Rs
I was shocked the first time I did a low light test with the 2-7x33
I was testing into darkness against my S&B, Trijicon and a few others.
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#4252509 - 05/13/13 04:41 PM Re: Leupold VX-6 vs. VX-R [Re: ccoker]
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I don't have any experiences with the VX6, but I can echo the sentiments of ccoker on the VX-R series. My 2-7x33 VXR is noticeably brighter than my 3-9x40 Zeiss conquest, as well as my three Leupold 6.5-20x50 VX3s.

As far as optical clarity I don't think you see much difference, but for the price I'd sure hope the VX6 at least looks a little better. I do think the VX6 is more versatile due to it's 6x erector system.

Neither setup (sort of the VX-R Patrol) offers any kind of target knobs which is a downside IMO. The VX6 will also offer you more adjustment, but if you're not dialing 1000 yard adjustments all the time, that may not matter at all.

If you're trying to make a nice inside 500 yards hunting rig, I think either will do fine, but I think you get more value out of the VX-R. If you're looking to do long range hunting/target shooting, you'd probably ought to look at something else.

To summarize, I have no doubt the VX6 is better, it's just hard to imagine it being "that much better".

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#4252544 - 05/13/13 04:59 PM Re: Leupold VX-6 vs. VX-R [Re: Mike McCasland]
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Originally Posted By: Mike McCasland
I don't have any experiences with the VX6, but I can echo the sentiments of ccoker on the VX-R series. My 2-7x33 VXR is noticeably brighter than my 3-9x40 Zeiss conquest, as well as my three Leupold 6.5-20x50 VX3s.

As far as optical clarity I don't think you see much difference, but for the price I'd sure hope the VX6 at least looks a little better. I do think the VX6 is more versatile due to it's 6x erector system.

Neither setup (sort of the VX-R Patrol) offers any kind of target knobs which is a downside IMO. The VX6 will also offer you more adjustment, but if you're not dialing 1000 yard adjustments all the time, that may not matter at all.

If you're trying to make a nice inside 500 yards hunting rig, I think either will do fine, but I think you get more value out of the VX-R. If you're looking to do long range hunting/target shooting, you'd probably ought to look at something else.

To summarize, I have no doubt the VX6 is better, it's just hard to imagine it being "that much better".


That is exactly what I was thinking. This is going to be my new primary hunting rig....but I plan to keep everything under 400 yards, with most under 300. I have no use for target knobs on this particular rifle/setup.

I will likely go with the VX-R with FireDot 4 reticle.
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#4252645 - 05/13/13 06:02 PM Re: Leupold VX-6 vs. VX-R [Re: Eland Slayer]
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I think you are making a wise choice

I will throw out another option if you don't have to have an illuminated reticle and that is Meopta Meopro 4-12x50 with a #4

Similar price point

Slightly better glass, maybe not any brighter but resolution and contrast is a touch better. This is something my wife could not see, it is a subtle thing in low light that takes a "trained" eye to notice..
So, it is obviously a small amount of difference.


With the VXR you can always get a custom CDS dial for it if you want to stretch the legs more..
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#4252838 - 05/13/13 07:39 PM Re: Leupold VX-6 vs. VX-R [Re: ccoker]
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I've got a 3-9x50 VX-R CDS. It is excellent. I chose it over the accupoint and I would say its hardly noticeable between the 6 an the R. Definitely not worth double.
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#4254138 - 05/14/13 10:50 AM Re: Leupold VX-6 vs. VX-R [Re: Eland Slayer]
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Eland,

The main difference between the scopes is the magnification ration, 6:1 ration in the VX-6 compared to the 3:1 ration in the VX-R. This means that the highest magnification divided by the lowest magnification gives you the ration. Also you have better glass and the manufacturing process is much more complicated in the VX-6. Also with all VX-6 models you get the Custom Dial System (CDS). By simply filling out a ballistics chart for Leupold they will custom make you a dial specific for your rifle and bullet that allows you to quickly dial in yardage and has a zero stop. No more counting clicks or trying to hold over target twist and shoot. Also if you want an illuminated firedot yeah it has that to. So with the technical side out of the way the VX-6 scope is more universal then the VX-3. To explain lets say that all conditions are perfect and a giant buck walks up next to your stand. Your VX-3 won't let you go down to 1x but the VX-6 will. Opposite end of that is let's say that your buck is out past 400yrds and that simple 9x won't cut it the VX-6 has 12 or 18x. So my conclusions is if you have the funds by a scope that is more universal. Check out your options here Leupold VX-6


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#4254396 - 05/14/13 12:42 PM Re: Leupold VX-6 vs. VX-R [Re: superman0812]
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I just called Leupold and asked about the VX-Rs because I have been wanting one myself and here is what the techincal support tech told me:
The VX-R scopes have the same glass as the VX2 scopes, transmit 94% light, 30mm tubes, and have the same internal system as the VX3 line of scopes. Think I'm gonna order a 4-12x40 CDS for my varmint rig.
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#4254721 - 05/14/13 02:26 PM Re: Leupold VX-6 vs. VX-R [Re: superman0812]
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Originally Posted By: superman0812
Eland,

The main difference between the scopes is the magnification ration, 6:1 ration in the VX-6 compared to the 3:1 ration in the VX-R. This means that the highest magnification divided by the lowest magnification gives you the ration. Also you have better glass and the manufacturing process is much more complicated in the VX-6. Also with all VX-6 models you get the Custom Dial System (CDS). By simply filling out a ballistics chart for Leupold they will custom make you a dial specific for your rifle and bullet that allows you to quickly dial in yardage and has a zero stop. No more counting clicks or trying to hold over target twist and shoot. Also if you want an illuminated firedot yeah it has that to. So with the technical side out of the way the VX-6 scope is more universal then the VX-3. To explain lets say that all conditions are perfect and a giant buck walks up next to your stand. Your VX-3 won't let you go down to 1x but the VX-6 will. Opposite end of that is let's say that your buck is out past 400yrds and that simple 9x won't cut it the VX-6 has 12 or 18x. So my conclusions is if you have the funds by a scope that is more universal. Check out your options here Leupold VX-6


I am well aware of the difference in magnification ration. Also, I am not even the least bit interested in a CDS dial.
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#4254761 - 05/14/13 02:40 PM Re: Leupold VX-6 vs. VX-R [Re: Eland Slayer]
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I think that LEUPOLD guy may have been wrong
Unless they have upgraded the glass on the VX2 since the VXR came out.

The VXR was their first scope with lead free glass and was better than the VX3 and Mark 4 glass at the time of introduction a few years ago (2-3)

Their website is never up to date and I have heard conflicting intro from different people the same day.
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#4254831 - 05/14/13 03:00 PM Re: Leupold VX-6 vs. VX-R [Re: ccoker]
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IDK that is just what a friend told me awhile back from a call he made and I wanted to hear it directly so I called myself just to see. I dont care either way I'm gonna buy a VX-R.
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#4254956 - 05/14/13 03:39 PM Re: Leupold VX-6 vs. VX-R [Re: aggiehunter03]
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Cool
I haven't heard a single complaint about them.

I know Bill Wilson uses the 3-9x50 for hog hunting a lot.
And he has a ton of much more expensive stuff
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#4255032 - 05/14/13 04:09 PM Re: Leupold VX-6 vs. VX-R [Re: ccoker]
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I sure don't know the innards like a lot of you guys but I was waiting for a Swaro from a friend of a friend that never came through.

I got the 4X12X50 VXR and haven't looked back. The fire dot reticle is perfect for quick target acquisition and can't be beat for hog hunting.

I really think it improves my shot placement since cross hairs can be dim in low light while the dot is obvious even if you are just looking through the scope to see what is there.

Anyway, that is my amateur scope aficionado's opinion.
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