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9mm for hogs #42116 11/20/05 01:20 PM
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I HAVE A 9MM SEMI AUTO. RIFLE. IT'S HAS A 2 IN GROUP AT 50 YDS. I'M WANTING TO TAKE IT PIG HUNTING. WHAT WOULD BE THE ROUNDS TO BUY. I CAN GET SHOTS UNDER 25 YDS.


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I've killed hogs with cheap Wolf hardball ammo from a 9mm glock 17 before. I've killed a deer with the same round and same gun before with one shot through the heart. It took about 8 rounds for the hog. Next time I'll make them all head shots

I'd just use hardballs for penetration. They will still mushroom and most of my shots passed through. In a rifle you will get allot more velocity so maybe you could use hollow points. I reload so I mainly use hornady xtp's. Wolf ammo is so cheap it's not even worth reloading hardball anymore. I dont know if you can buy xtp's loaded up.

Federal Hydrashocks are good and so are Remington Golden Sabres. Golder Sabre's are very accurate out of my glock and sig. I dont know how accurate they would be shot through your rifle. 9mm is cheap, buy a bunch and practise.


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Oddly enough I'm with Jeff on this one...lol. If I was going to hog hunt with a 9mm rifle I'd use hardball. I've never killed one with a 9mm, but I've shot plenty with my 45 and every one of them but 2 was with hardball...the other 2 were killed with 230g Hydra-Shocks. I left my carry clip in that morning by mistake...lol. Only problems I've seen with folks using the 9mms were that it usually took more than one shot to do the deed. No matter what they were shooting...aim well...and don't wait till one gets too close...lol.

I like the Wolf stuff too...it is cheap and I've never had it act bad on me. I had a gunsmith tell me one time that it was too hot...but I've never seen it be a problem. I've also shot some of that CCI Blazer ammo and I like it. I buy the steel case stuf becasue it is cheaper and I'm not worried about reloading it anyway. You might give that a try too and see what shoots the best....Good Luck!!!



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I'll tell you something funny here. We where skinning a 300+ lb russian hog down in Newton Texas a buddy of mine killed. We found an old hardball .45 round stuck in its skull right between the eyes. I have no idea how long it had been there, or how far the person was when they shot the hog with it. It may have even been a hot squib load. Either way Hogs are pretty tough. I've had arrows bounce off the sides of their armor plating on the sides. I've since swithed bows and broadheads and shoot a Mathews Zmax and dont have that problem anymore.

The two hogs I killed with the 9mm where at about 20 yards. I emptied my gun into them and had one about 5 feet from me when he finally slid to a stop. Thank god for high capacity mags.

I wonder what kind of Rifle this CATZILLA person is using. I hope you are hunting up in a stand or have a rifle that will allow high cap mags. I know there is one that accepts glock mags. I'd go buy the 30 round clip and load it up with 25 shells...(never could get it to work right with 30 rounds,,, after my hog incident I went and bought one)if you are hunting on the ground.

If you ARE doing this on the ground I'd say you have some serious thrill issues you might want to get some help on.


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Re: 9mm for hogs [Re: Fatalwishes' Wife] #42120 12/01/05 01:51 PM
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I can agree with the using of harball. We know a rancher that traps hogs and called us to take them out. I tried my 9 mm carry rounds that are Corbon +p hollow points behind the ear and they just get pissed off. This completely surprised me that it took 2 or 3 shots to drop them. Now I question my 9mm as a carry weapon. I was told that useing hardball and shooting at base of skull to sever the spinal cord is probably best and will try that the next time we go out there. I know they are only hogs but I still want to be humane.


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I have always thought the 9mm was all hiped up. Use a good old 45 acp for both, thats what it was made for.


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Damn right, Bill...Well said.



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Thought I would chime in here. I've killed hogs with a 223 wssm many times but rarely with one shot. Even when I screw one in the ear I will almost always have to give it a finishing shot. Shot a couple with a .357 and totally quit carrying it. I think it's awful important to know exactly how tough these animals are before you hunt them.

The lease guy that shot that 300 pounder last weekend, shot that hog three times in the head. The fist shot dropped her but she stood right back up. the next two shot she would run a little and stop after each shot. I said, "you missed again". We were at extremely close range. As he was going to put another round in her brain pan, she dropped and started kicking. It wasn't until we got back to camp that we could see three entry holes. Three shots to the head with a .308 and still standing. The big hogs are awful tough!


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Thats why I love the 35 whelen and 45-70, the hogs hate them!!!!


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I'll second that motion, and include the 375 H&H to that list.


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3 votes for the BIG BORES, !!!


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You two are right I just hate shooting anything that weighs more than the animal I'm shooting at!!


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Quote:

3 votes for the BIG BORES, !!!


I've drilled so many hogs with Painless(260) that is would be almost a crime to say how many I've killed on here...lol. Never lost one...and had very few run off, and yall know where I shootem. Bill...you and CH are howitzer freaks...lol. Hey...if either one of you run a cross a 35 Whelen in a 7600 would you let me know? I reeeeeeelly want one!



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Heeerod WE feel your pain!


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Don't know about bigbill, but I ain't a Howitzer freak, I just prefer the bigger calibers. Same as some folks preferring traditional recurves and longbows over compounds or sidelock percussion or flintlock muzzle-loaders over modern in-lines. As I have said else where, I would rather be guilty of caring too much gun than having something get away or eat me.


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CHC....you are a howitzer freak...cmon...it is 2005, you can come out...it's OK....we still love ya man...lol. HEY! My Bud told me today that Remmy was making a special run of brand new 7600's in 35 Whelen...it may take me till summer to get it outta layaway...but I gotta get me one of those!!!



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WE about got you converted.


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I think you would be better off with that Whelen in a bolt action. JMO


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O no doubt, CHC. I am an exclusive bolt action man. I just want something a little different is all. I can make no real case for wanting the pump except that. If I was asked my opinion of the two the bolt action would get my nod, hands down. It's the "Huh" factor I guess. I'm going to call and get a price on one today. There is a place near here that will let me put it on layaway as long as I need...lol.

Bill...you shut it...I'm not converting to howitzerism. I just want one...to...uuuummmmm...study...yeah...study...that's the ticket....



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SO I GUESS THAT A 9MM WILL TAKE OUT A HOG. I HAVE A RIFLE THAT HAS A 10 ROUND CLIP, THE RIFLE IS A SHORT SIMI-AUTO
CARB. I WORKED IN A HOG KILL PLANT YEARS AGO, WE USED A SEARS 22 RIFLE. 1 SHOT TO THE EAR, WITH A 22 SHORT. YES IT WAS ABOUT 5 FT. AWAY, BUT IT HAD NO PROBLEM .I HAVE ALSO USED A 22 LONGRIFLE OUT IN WEST TEX. ON WILD HOGS. ABOUT 25 YDS YOU CAN TAKE ONE DOWN WITH 1 SHOT IN FRONT OF THE EAR.THANKS CATZILLA


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You go boy!! I wish you the best of luck! I've killed over 250 wild hogs in the last 6 years and I wouldn't chunk a 9mm pistol or rifle at one...lol. They won't always let you shootem in the front of the ear.
I'm just pickin....if you place your shots well you shouldn't have a bit of trouble...just remember what you are shooting and where you are and you should be fine. Post some pics!!!



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You can kill a hog with a 9mm...but you're nuts to even bother if you ask me!! I've seen a few instances of wounded sows that were really pissed off and took several rounds to kill from way better than a wimpy 9!! Case in point-I've seen the divots in the skull from where my buddy shot a pig head-on with his .45 using hardball ammo. All those bullets did was gouge out skin and richochet to points unknown!

The point applies to all 'small for game' calibers. Yes, you can kill un-agitated game with the right shot, but I say why short-change yourself? From the pig hunting I've done, I'd feel WAY undergunned going afield with a 9mm, unless of course, you only shoot the little ones! Sure, 99% of pigs will run from you when shot, but they don't ALL do that, and I've seen it with my own eyes so I know how fast things can get exciting!

If the 9mm is all you have then I guess you're stuck, but my opinion is that you should buy something a little larger!!



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Ive just got one question, have any of you people ever killed a hog. I know they can be tough animals, but all the stuff about 3 head shots with a .308 and still running around, and needing a .35 whelen, or 45-70, or .375 H&H is complete bull s***. I am not an advocate of doing everything with a small gun, I shoot a .270, but come on guys lets get real here, they are sweet little pink pigs not a damn sherman tank.

Thanks I just had to get that out.

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I hope one of those "sweet little pink pigs" dont corner you up close you with only a handy little 9mm.


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Yall should really look at how ridiculous you sound, they are not what you make them out to be. We walk hunt them at night with a ity bity .22 lr, and have never had a problem, like I said it is nice to have something a little bigger, but from what yall say they must be wraped up in balistic nylon and have a hunger for man flesh like a lion or something like that. This is all I have to say, oh yeah and i hope one does corners me so I can experience the sabber toothed pig for myself.

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