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 Re: Could Introduction of the Swamp Exotics Help Save Hunting?
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The only issue is the natural regeneration of the forests along its borders and except for the BT corridor everything is private timber company land....and those leases have jumped significantly since the sell-out back in 2007. There's actually a pretty nice tract of land on it for sale last I checked to experiment with.
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Re: Could Introduction of the Swamp Exotics Help Save Hunting?
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We already have an imported swamp creature to hunt. It's called the nutria.
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Re: Could Introduction of the Swamp Exotics Help Save Hunting?
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Those aren't fun on trot lines 
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Re: Could Introduction of the Swamp Exotics Help Save Hunting?
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Uh, that's not a Freudian slip. Get back to when you have a proper analogy. Oh no, it was spot on...... From Wikipedia: A Freudian slip, also called parapraxis, is an error in speech, memory, or physical action that is interpreted as occurring due to the interference of some unconscious ("dynamically repressed"), subdued wish, conflict, or train of thought. In this case, your desire for all of us to recognize your self perceived genius. A common theme in your threads... But please continue.
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Re: Could Introduction of the Swamp Exotics Help Save Hunting?
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Re: Could Introduction of the Swamp Exotics Help Save Hunting?
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7mag and I soon will be offering exotic rabbit hunts on a Texas ranch. It will be free range with low fence, with only spot and stalk. No blinds, no feeders.  I thought ya said you had rabbits! 
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Re: Could Introduction of the Swamp Exotics Help Save Hunting?
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That's just txhntr posing with a cottontail.
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Re: Could Introduction of the Swamp Exotics Help Save Hunting?
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This thread was BS so I just looked at the front page and just  ed and  ed Just go hunt some hogs if you want an "alternative." Or predators and varmints. On the first page, txtrophy and kmon1 have right on the dot in my opinion. I don't knowntoo much, but I know enough to know that we have enough exotics, free range and high fence. If you want an alternative hunt for EXOTICS then save some money for the hunt instead of for like, phones and shoes or what ever. Or get a better job.........
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Re: Could Introduction of the Swamp Exotics Help Save Hunting?
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This thread was BS so I just looked at the front page and just :role: ed and ed Just go hunt some hogs if you want an "alternative." Or predators and varmints. On the first page, txtrophy and kmon1 have right on the dot in my opinion. I don't knowntoo much, but I know enough to know that we have enough exotics, free range and high fence. If you want an alternative hunt for EXOTICS then save some money for the hunt instead of for like, phones and shoes or what ever. Or get a better job......... There ya have it, from the mouths of babes. Give 'em heck CS.
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Re: Could Introduction of the Swamp Exotics Help Save Hunting?
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I'm not a babe.........1. A child; baby, 2. A cute girl
I'm niether!
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Re: Could Introduction of the Swamp Exotics Help Save Hunting?
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I'm not a babe.........1. A child; baby, 2. A cute girl
I'm niether! You're in your teens and I'm closer to 50 than 40...so that makes you a young'un. No offense intended. When you get this age you'll understand.
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Re: Could Introduction of the Swamp Exotics Help Save Hunting?
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Lol
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Re: Could Introduction of the Swamp Exotics Help Save Hunting?
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Just curious. What do you really know about the biology of these animals? Sitatunga and Lechwe are already here but need a lot of support to survive behind HF. I'm sure the same comments were made about Axis and Black Buck 50 years ago.
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Re: Could Introduction of the Swamp Exotics Help Save Hunting?
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Just curious. What do you really know about the biology of these animals? Sitatunga and Lechwe are already here but need a lot of support to survive behind HF. I'm sure the same comments were made about Axis and Black Buck 50 years ago. if an animal won't do good in a more controlled enviroment like a high fenced ranch, what makes you think they'll take on public land in east texas? the sale of .22 winchester wildcats would go thru the roof
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
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Re: Could Introduction of the Swamp Exotics Help Save Hunting?
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The animals are held in hill country HF enclosures. They are also largely habitat limited, therefore they won't spread much beyond where the best habitat is located. The coastal and SE lakes area provide environment that is remarkably similiar to the native habitat, right down to large reptiles ( crocs vs alligators ). It would protect them from the biggest percieved risk which is cold. They can take it but the accepted limit is 15 F for 3 days. Sitatunga swim and walk almost completely submerged with only the tips of the nose showing. Second big issue is food, but they like multiple sources including grass and aquatic plants. Here's something else. They may also eat the water hyacinth. This is good.
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Re: Could Introduction of the Swamp Exotics Help Save Hunting?
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How would the humidity treat them?
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Re: Could Introduction of the Swamp Exotics Help Save Hunting?
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I don't see humidity being a problem. Humidity in native habitat can be very high, but generally cooler, However they can take tremendous heat over a 100F if they have enough water to submerge in.
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Re: Could Introduction of the Swamp Exotics Help Save Hunting?
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The animals are held in hill country HF enclosures. They are also largely habitat limited, therefore they won't spread much beyond where the best habitat is located. The coastal and SE lakes area provide environment that is remarkably similiar to the native habitat, right down to large reptiles ( crocs vs alligators ). It would protect them from the biggest percieved risk which is cold. They can take it but the accepted limit is 15 F for 3 days. Sitatunga swim and walk almost completely submerged with only the tips of the nose showing. Second big issue is food, but they like multiple sources including grass and aquatic plants. Here's something else. They may also eat the water hyacinth. This is good. so when you bringing the first batch over?
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
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Re: Could Introduction of the Swamp Exotics Help Save Hunting?
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Why? Are you providing the land? A potential big issue is would they really eat the water hyancith as a major food source. If so then you really have something here.
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Re: Could Introduction of the Swamp Exotics Help Save Hunting?
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Why? Are you providing the land? A potential big issue is would they really eat the water hyancith as a major food source. If so then you really have something here. i don't think they would do good in south texas. but you can bring them over if you like
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
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Re: Could Introduction of the Swamp Exotics Help Save Hunting?
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I don't think BBQ and beer is on their agenda, especially if they are on the menu. Biocontrol of water hyancith is a huge issue, but the plant is a double edged sword. It accumulates heavy metals and toxins, but still will choke everything up. The animals could also potentially provide a biowarning system of sorts by following toxin and metal levels on necroscopic specimens. Anyway bugs have been used in the past for control of the hyancith. Why not these, especiall if they might eat the stuff?
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Re: Could Introduction of the Swamp Exotics Help Save Hunting?
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Ask the Australians about the importation of animals. Specifically camels and rabbits.
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Re: Could Introduction of the Swamp Exotics Help Save Hunting?
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Ask us about the release of feral pigs, fireants, tiger shrimp and ( gulp ) water hyancith. Your point? Besides horse aren't native to the Americas. According to you we should wipe them out.
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Re: Could Introduction of the Swamp Exotics Help Save Hunting?
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Ask the Australians about the importation of animals. Specifically camels and rabbits.  I saw a video once where some Aussie's were hunting camels from helicopters. Big problem over there, but not as big an issue as the rabbits.
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Re: Could Introduction of the Swamp Exotics Help Save Hunting?
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Ask the Australians about the importation of animals. Specifically camels and rabbits. but they provide hunting opportunities for the less fortunate!!!!!
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
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