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#265666 - 11/30/07 11:31 AM FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD
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*FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD
This post is pinned to help us bookmark common information and sites regarding Feral Hogs Regulation, Laws, Health warning, or Public information regarding Hogs. If you have any good sites or information please post them here. up cheers

*New Texas Animal Health Commission (TAHC) regulations for moving LIVE feral swine will go into effect October 1, 08.
http://www.tahc.state.tx.us/animal_health/swine/swine.html

The brochure also is posted on the TAHC web site at http://www.tahc.state.tx.us

*Regulations for Moving LIVE Wild Hogs.
http://www.tahc.state.tx.us/animal_health/swine/feral_swine.pdf



*TAHC: Regulations For Trapping or Moving Feral (Wild) Swine, Safety for Hunters,
http://www.tahc.state.tx.us/animal_health/sb_pr/feral_swine.pdf

*TAHC: Swine Diseases a Danger to Humans and Livestock.
web page
http://www.tahc.state.tx.us/animal_health/diseases/sb_pr/feral_swine.pdf


*TPWLD links:
http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/huntwild/wild/nuisance/feral_hogs/


*Trapping and Trap construction:
http://www.hpj.com/archives/2005/dec05/d...;0.545428953909
http://www.noble.org/Ag/Wildlife/FeralHogs/12-Trapping.htm
http://www.wilcoxwebworks.com/hs/hogtrapspermanent.htm
http://www.agfc.com/!userfiles/pdfs/hunting/hog_trap_flier_web.pdf

Corral Traps for Capturing Feral Hogs
Capture Techniques
•Recognizing Feral Hog Sign
•Snares (Learn how to build your own HERE)
•Box traps
•Corral traps
•Bait types (coming soon)
•Firearms
http://pcwp.tamu.edu/FeralHogs/CaptureTechniques.aspx


*Anatomy and kill zone:
http://www.texasboars.com/anatomy.html



*Processing:


*Salt Curing and Smoking Meats:
http://uga.edu/nchfp/publications/nchfp/lit_rev/cure_smoke_cure.html
http://www.mortonsalt.com/products/meatcuring/smokeflavor.html


*Cooking, prep, and sausage
http://www.sausagemaker.com/
http://www.askthemeatman.com/cooking_wild_boar.htm
http://www.lubbockonline.com/stories/022207/lif_022207030.shtml
http://bbq.about.com/od/barbecuehelp/a/aa061006a.htm
http://www.pig-hunt.com/id20.html
http://www.spitjack.com/page/SJ/CTGY/HOG?gclid=CPH8se_JjYkCFQRbFQodAylOAw
http://slemke.tripod.com/hog.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brining



*TAMU INFORMATION:
http://texnat.tamu.edu/symposia/feral/feral-6.htm
http://feralhogs.tamu.edu/trap.cfm
http://feralhogs.tamu.edu/bait.cfm
http://wildlife.tamu.edu/publications/tahcregulations4.pdf



*OTHER TRAPS:
http://www.dpi.qld.gov.au/documents/Biosecurity_EnvironmentalPests/IPA-Control-Feral-Pigs-PA7.pdf


*How much does your animal weigh?
http://ag.arizona.edu/backyards/articles/winter07/p11-12.pdf




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*LICENSE REQUIREMENT FOR FERAL HOGS 2009-2010 OUTDOORS ANNUAL
http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/publications/annual/general/hunt_licenses/
A hunting license is required of any person, regardless of age, who hunts any animal, bird, frog or turtle in this state (except furbearers, if the hunter possesses a trapper's license). No license is required for nuisance fur-bearing animals, depredating hogs or coyotes (see below). Non-residents under 17 years of age may purchase and hunt with the Youth Hunting License (Type 169).

Exceptions: a hunting license is not required to hunt the following:

Coyotes, if the coyotes are attacking, about to attack, or have recently attacked livestock, domestic animals, or fowl.
Depredating feral hogs, if a landowner (resident or non-resident) or landowner's agent or lessee is taking feral hogs causing depredation on the landowner's land.
Fur-bearing animals, if the hunter possesses a trapper's license or if the fur-bearing animals are causing depredation.
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A hunting license is required of any person, regardless of age, who hunts any animal, bird, frog or turtle in this state (except furbearers, if the hunter possesses a trapper's license).

Note: All laws and regulations governing hunter education still apply.

EXOTIC ANIMALS AND FOWL
Exotic animal refers to grass-eating or plant-eating, single-hoofed or cloven-hoofed mammals that are not indigenous or native to Texas and are known as ungulates, including animals from the deer and antelope families that landowners have introduced into this state. Includes, but is not limited to feral hog, Aoudad sheep, Axis deer, Elk, Sika deer, Fallow deer, Blackbuck antelope, Nilgai antelope, and Russian boar. Exotic fowl refers to any avian species that is not indigenous to this state, including ratites (emu, ostrich, rhea, cassowary, etc.).

There are no state bag or possession limits or closed seasons on exotic animals or fowl on private property. It is against the law to:
-Hunt an exotic without a valid hunting license.
-Hunt an exotic on a public road or right-of-way.
-Hunt an exotic without the landowner's permission.
-Possess an exotic or the carcass of an exotic without the owner's consent.

Penalty: A person who violates these laws commits an offense that is a Class A Parks and Wildlife Code misdemeanor ($500-$4000 and/or up to one year in jail).

Nongame and Other Species
NONGAME ANIMALS (Includes, but is not limited to the following):
Armadillos*
Bobcats*
Coyotes*
Flying squirrels
Frogs
Ground squirrels
Mountain lions
Porcupines
Prairie dogs
Rabbits
Turtles
Does not include feral hog (see Exotic Animals and Fowl).
No closed season. These animals may be hunted at any time by any lawful means or methods on private property. Public hunting lands may have restrictions. A hunting license is required.




Quote:
February 18, 2010
New feral hog publications aim to help landowners thwart growing menace
February 18, 2010
Writer(s):
Steve Byrns, 325-653-4576,s-byrns@tamu.edu

Contact(s):Dr. Jim Cathey, 979-845-2862, jccathey@tamu.edu

COLLEGE STATION – The Texas AgriLife Extension Service has developed five new feral hog control publications to help landowners corral this growing menace, according to an AgriLife Extension specialist.

These publications were funded by the Texas State Soil and Water Conservation Board and U.S. Environmental Protection Agency through a Clean Water Act § 319(h) nonpoint source grant. Publications are available online at: http://plumcreek.tamu.edu/feralhogs/ .

These publications specifically target the Plum Creek Watershed in Hays and Caldwell counties, an area especially hard hit by the marauders, but are applicable wherever feral hogs are a problem, said Dr. Jim Cathey, AgriLife Extension wildlife specialist at College Station.

Chancey Lewis, AgriLife Extension wildlife assistant at Lockhart and his colleagues developed the new publications. Lewis works closely with landowners in Hays and Caldwell counties, giving instruction and technical guidance on hog trapping, as part of the implementation of the Plum Creek Watershed Protection Plan.

The five publications are:

– “Recognizing Feral Hog Sign,” deals with the evidence or sign the hogs leave in passing. By being able to read sign, Cathey said landowners can learn where the animals are traveling and apply the appropriate management technique to reduce their numbers.

– “Corral Traps for Capturing Feral Hogs,” discusses large traps that Cathey said have proven useful in reducing hog numbers quickly. According to Lewis, feral hogs typically travel in large family groups called “sounders,” and a corral trap can often be used to capture the entire group.

– “Box Traps for Capturing Feral Hogs,” deals with a second option that should be considered after corral traps, Cathey said. While they are not the best choice for removing large hog numbers, box traps, because they are readily movable, can be used to quickly remove small numbers from trouble spots.

– “Snaring Feral Hogs,” offers instructions on placement and handling of snares. Snares are ideal for situations where feral hogs have become wary of box or corral traps. Snares are also much cheaper than traps, according to Lewis.

- "Building a Feral Hog Snare," provides step-by-step instructions for producing snares used for catching feral hogs.

For more information contact Lewis at 979-393-8517 or cdlewis@ag.tamu.edu .

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#265667 - 11/30/07 12:33 PM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: jeh7mmmag]
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#265668 - 12/02/07 09:13 AM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: deuce12]
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Are there any parts of the State of Texas that have solved their "hog problem"?

I keep thinking that with all the hunters in this State and the fact that one can just about hunt them any time, any where (with permission) with just about any weapon, why there are still so many of these hog out there?

Are they really that prolific and that smart?
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#265669 - 12/02/07 10:34 AM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: a777pilot]
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Are they really that prolific and that smart?




Smart no! Prolific yes. Add that to the tendency for them to move at night and a limited amount of predators willing to take on the onslaught of an adult hog.
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#265670 - 12/02/07 10:44 AM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: HWY_MAN]
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Smart no!




I am gonna have to disagree with you on that one.

On the scale of animal intelligence, pigs are smarter than cats or dogs.

Why do you think they go nocturnal if they are shot into a couple of times during the day time.

The fact that in some places people keep catching hog after hog in their traps, is due to greed on the hogs part in wanting to get at the bait inside the trap.

I bet there are folks out there right now that are beginning to experience hogs that are getting trap smart. JMO.
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#265671 - 12/02/07 10:57 AM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: Crazyhorse]
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I think it depends on how we measure their intelligence. If we measure it on their ability to avoid hunters, I would have to say not very smart. One of the reasons they’re so popular to hunt with a bow or handguns is the hunter’s ability to get in close. Their eye sights poor, to say the least, making them easy to stalk by just playing the wind.


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Why do you think they go nocturnal




I don't think they go nocturnal, their just nocturnal by nature as are most wild creatures.
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#265672 - 12/02/07 11:12 AM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: HWY_MAN]
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This is great. Just like the age old question: Which is smarter, the pig or the horse? I always picked the pig. Ya don't see them with cowboys on their backs all day, do you?
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#265673 - 12/02/07 11:21 AM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: HWY_MAN]
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The places where they are hunted with bow and handgun are different than places where they have been hunted with rifles.

Bow and handgun hunting work in areas with big hog populations and low hunting pressure.

Try putting a bow or handgun hunter out on a place where the hogs have received lots of pressure and the population is on the low side.

Also just like white tail deer will go nocturnal, so will pigs.

True, pigs do prefer to travel during the periods of low light.

I have also seen pigs change from moving around just before dark, to not moving at all until well after dark because they had been shot at. JMO.
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#265674 - 12/03/07 05:40 PM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: Crazyhorse]
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Hogs will go nocturnal quicker too. Still, that's why we have glow sticks and spot lights.
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#265675 - 12/13/07 03:27 PM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: passthru]
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Well hopefully a pig or two'll log in and blog a bit just to demonstrate their intelligence, or lack thereof, and settle this issue...otherwise Id hafta vote for the hog and rider theory that A777 come up with...of course on the other hand, maybe the hogs are what cowboys ride at night and THAT's why we don't see them rode...

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#265676 - 12/15/07 05:53 PM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: PappawRock]
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hogs use there noses more than anything else! I know a man who is in his late 70s he grew up somewhere close to jasper as a child they had no running water and the well was some distance from there house one day his grandmother and siblings were getting water and came up on some wild pigs she told them dont make a sound and dont move he said after a little while the pigs just walked off he thinks it was becuase they could not see them or here them
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#265677 - 01/13/08 11:59 AM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: TEXASLEFTY]
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i have walked up to 10 yards and shot them with my bow, very bad vision. good noses though. you have to kill 80 percent or the hog population every year for it not to grow. it is just impossible to kill that many, other than with helicopters and class 3 weapons
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#265678 - 01/16/08 08:25 PM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: hsuhunter]
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#1 - YES! They will charge some times. Down here in BFE we hunt them a lot with dogs and when they are bayed up by a bunch of dogs they get...shall we say "irritated". The other dangerous moment is if you're dealing with a momma and piglets. I have personally been chased up a tree more than once! Most of the time though, they'll just turn and run away. Especially when shot.

#2 - Their sight is poor, their hearing is decent, and their noses are (I think) as good or better than a deer. My main bow hunting place here in East Texas is covered with them and has been for 10-15 years, so I'm talking from experience.

#3 - It is ILLEGAL to carry a firearm (rifle or handgun) during the Archery Only deer season. The game warden won't care to hear your excuse of "I'm hunting hogs". The rest of the year, it's legal.

and #4...

My solution to the bow hunting question is USE A LADDER STAND and bait out a spot. You'll have heck trying to find and stalk hogs on the ground.

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#265679 - 01/17/08 06:56 AM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: texasspazzman]
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it is not illegal to carry a handgun during bow only if you have a CHL
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#265680 - 01/17/08 07:10 AM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: TEXASLEFTY]
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Quote:

it is not illegal to carry a handgun during bow only if you have a CHL




Question, so it's not illegal if you have a CHL but can you legally kill a hog with the weapon ... while engaging in archery for deer?
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#265681 - 01/17/08 11:30 AM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: TEXASLEFTY]
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TEXASLEFTY is right, and I stand corrected.

I was not aware of the Concealed Handgun exception, but here it is: (from TPWD)

Archery and Crossbows
It is unlawful to be in possession of a firearm while hunting with a broadhead HUNTING point during the Archery-Only season, EXCEPT a person licensed to carry a concealed handgun in Texas may carry a concealed handgun.

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#265682 - 01/19/08 07:25 AM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: texasspazzman]
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"Question, so it's not illegal if you have a CHL but can you legally kill a hog with the weapon ... while engaging in archery for deer?"

Use of handgun must be in strict accordance with CHL laws, predominantly covered in Chapter 9 of Penal Code. And there ain't mention in there of shooting pigs. In my not-so-humble opinion, closest thing applicable could possibly be be "Necessity", aka "Law of Competing Harms". CHL Instructor #6616

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#265683 - 03/09/08 10:06 PM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: Greybeard]
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so if the hog is charging and you are in imminent danger go ahead and dispatch the hog. would you use a two tap or keep firing until you no longer feel threatend. i've seen some people in situations with hogs and russian boar and mixes with bows were i was glad i had my 30/30 or .44 for close encounters especially with mama and her little one's. as for how smart they are they are like cock roaches and can adapt to any enviorment and will eat anything. it seems like you shoot one and 30 more pop up. my buddy has about a 3 acre inclosure on his 500 acre place that he keeps nothing but ferral hogs and we usually shoot about 5 a month for a bbq and such or give them to the ranchhands,but it seems like you just throw water on them and they reproduce like damn gremlins.
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#265684 - 03/31/08 11:09 AM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: hsuhunter]
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This why we have our place flown every year. Even at the rate of kill from the air they still repopulate because of the short gestation period. And are they smart??? In a lot of ways especially if they've been shot at from the air and the next time they are approached they just stand perfectally still!!! You have to make very low level passes and try to guess where they are hold up! I think its called hide n' seek!!
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#265685 - 03/31/08 01:06 PM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: Cool_Hand]
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Had someone fly by our place saturday afternoon/evening, he was in his white helicopter, knew he was the local fly-by-shooter lol
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#265686 - 03/31/08 01:46 PM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: TEXASLEFTY]
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yes it is

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#265687 - 04/14/08 12:10 PM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: dayton]
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Hogs are very smart, they just get in trouble because of water, food, and sex.

They are a very tough and durable animal. They can be seem to be some of the easiest animals to hunt if they have not been hunted before, no pressure, but put a little pressure on them and you will have to work for it. It can be very rewarding, especially to take large trophy type boars.

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#265688 - 05/04/08 07:08 AM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: a777pilot]
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Quote:

Are there any parts of the State of Texas that have solved their "hog problem"?

I keep thinking that with all the hunters in this State and the fact that one can just about hunt them any time, any where (with permission) with just about any weapon, why there are still so many of these hog out there?

Are they really that prolific and that smart?




There are two kinds of property in Texas those that have hogs and those that are going to get hogs .

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#265689 - 05/09/08 10:14 AM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: HWY_MAN]
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I don't think their eyesight is all that poor...I've ambled up on a wheat field 400 yards away and downwind and had them run like their a$$es were on fire.
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#265690 - 05/15/08 04:37 PM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: cody]
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There just aint no stoppin em.

We've killed at least a good 55-60 pig's in the last six month's an we still cant get rid of em'.
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#265691 - 05/30/08 12:55 AM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: STRIKE_N_STOP_EM_KENNELS]
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What I have trouble understanding, is if a rancher or farmer has a big problem with hogs taking over, why do they insist on charging a man & his boy to go onto his land to kill a couple of pigs for the freezer?? I live on the upper end of Lake Whitney & I know that there is an abundance of pigs all over the place, but mention to one of the old tight wads that you'd like to kill a couple to eat & they've sworn to me that they don't have any on their place & they don't allow anyone on their land to hunt!!!I wanna go kill a couple of medium sized pigs to carry to the locker plant, but I cannot find anyone that will let me on their place to shoot any! I'm a responsible 56 year old man that has hunted & fished most of my life & have been a landowner before myself! I respectfully treat a man's place like it were my very own as far as policing the area for trash & I make sure that there is not a shred of trash left by me or any gates left open or closed, whatever the case may be & I know where I am shooting at all times too! There are several huge ranches in my area, but unless you know someone on the inside, forget ever getting inside the gates on any of them!! If there is such a pig problem, seems that they'd wanna get all the help they could to help control them! Is it greed or do they honestly not trust anyone to take care of their place while hunting??

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#265692 - 06/05/08 12:13 AM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: jeh7mmmag]
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something to think about. last week,( and no, i cant remember where i read it) but according to Game Wardens, on hogs, the current texas pop is 2 BILLION. the average sow has around 10 to 16 babies. although it is a SPORT hunting now, pretty soon, there will be no deer to hunt, cause the hogs have rooted them out and killed them. all you will be doing is feeding the hogs, and hoping a deer comes along. i know its a money thing for a lot of owners but, whats gonna happen to deer-hunting? Just thinking out loud. what yall think? it may be too late to control it with gun ,bow or trapping. I know that those 90--125 lbs are good eating. my son killed one at Cisco, we smoked it that night over mesquite. was awesome. its just the overpopulation dilema that is coming. Mr brisket.
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#265693 - 06/05/08 07:06 AM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: mrbrisket357]
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Heeler - your last question in your post above is probably true on both ends or real close. Most landowners probably USED to allow hunting on their lands, until those that were hunting didn't abide by a few simple rules (don't leave any trash, pick up your hulls, if the gates closed-close it behind you, if it's open-don't close it, don't stretch the barbed-wire strands by using them as steps in crossing-crawl under or go to the gate, etc.) and that there has made them unwilling to trust folks anymore. On the other hand, they do realize that now they have a resource, whether it be a game animal or a species causing problems, they will only let those willing to pay the price into to hunt them or have leased their land out already.

There ARE still landowners out there that will allow you to hunt for free, but you have to diligent and willing to knock on a whole lot of doors before getting access. Heck, I have over 3500 acres at my disposal for fishing, hunting and trapping which I was granted permission back in 2001 and have yet to do any duck, squirrel, deer hunting, trapping or fishing on it YET!! Sounds crazy to most of yall, but there's only so much time I can get away. I have done quite a bit of fish and wildlife management on their ranch, but nothing other than that. That may all change if gas prices don't go down, then I'll have a place within 20 minutes of the house to enjoy while saving gas money.

I wish I could help you out on the hog situation and if I DO hear of someone having problems, I'll pass it along to you. What town are you located in, becasue most of the problems I hear about may be in the south/central part of the state.

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#265694 - 06/06/08 12:54 AM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: kyotee1]
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thanks for the response, I live outside of Kopperl, Tx, that is on the upper end of Lake Whitney in central Texas. I don't come onto this site too often, I mostly hang out on TFF, my screen name is Hank1951 on there. Thanks for the headsup on telling me if you hear anything, Heeler

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#265695 - 06/06/08 05:39 AM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: mrbrisket357]
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Just one clarifacation to your statement:
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but according to Game Wardens, on hogs, the current texas pop is 2 BILLION.


the estimated number is 2 Million, not Billion, and the usual number per litter is 6 to 8, but they can have up to 3 litters in one year.
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#265696 - 06/06/08 11:41 PM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: Crazyhorse]
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Crazyhorse. Thanks. 2 million makes more sense to me. im not sure where the billion came from. but i believe that its going to be a real problem real soon/ and most likely the state will have to step in to control it because of money greed and need from landowners and lesses, cant blame anyone for thying to make ends meet nowdays, but what could happen is because of the uncontrollable situation that is unavoidable, unless more harvesting and trapping occurs , is that the states will step in and charge landowners a DISPOSITION FEE" which being interpted is a REVENUE' for the state to fund more programs that dont exist. Make no mistake about it! its mostly about money. Wait till you see a Hog tag on your license and in order to kill a hog, you have to PAY xtra money just to shoot it. Im telling you folks it is coming. we have to pay for highways, welfare checks and county hospital service for non-citizens sometimes, its seems better to be poor and have nothing, then everything is free to you. housing, foodstamps free medical.the list goes on. ok, ok, I off my soapbox. thanks. Mrbrisket.
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#265697 - 06/09/08 11:34 AM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: mrbrisket357]
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but i believe that its going to be a real problem real soon/ and most likely the state will have to step in to control it because of money greed and need from landowners and lesses, cant blame anyone for thying to make ends meet nowdays, but what could happen is because of the uncontrollable situation that is unavoidable, unless more harvesting and trapping occurs , is that the states will step in and charge landowners a DISPOSITION FEE" which being interpted is a REVENUE' for the state to fund more programs that dont exist. Make no mistake about it! its mostly about money. Wait till you see a Hog tag on your license and in order to kill a hog, you have to PAY xtra money just to shoot it. Im telling you folks it is coming. we have to pay for highways, welfare checks and county hospital service for non-citizens sometimes, its seems better to be poor and have nothing, then everything is free to you. housing, foodstamps free medical.the list goes on. ok, ok, I off my soapbox. thanks. Mrbrisket.




And just where are you getting this so-called 'information'? The feral hog is classified as an exotic species which DO NOT require tags, can be taken anytime 24/7, 365 days out of the year on private property. We have several non-game animals that do not require tags and can be taken the same way, coyotes are one of them and they'll never become extinct.

Your analogy compares certain programs to others and seems to me you have a beef about those as opposed to what you posted in the first place. There are stipulations that are completely out of anyone's control, even the TPWD when it comes to landower's allowing who, when, why, how much on their land to take the species...it has been like this for years and getting worst.

I really enjoyed your statement claiming the hogs will eat all of the deer...hmmm

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#265698 - 06/09/08 02:31 PM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: kyotee1]
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Thank you for bringing your usual level head to this discussion. The sky is not falling. And the TPW is not out to screw us all.

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#265699 - 07/07/08 10:57 PM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: jeh7mmmag]
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does anyone know of a place to do guided cougar hunts?

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#265700 - 08/14/08 07:36 PM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: STRIKE_N_STOP_EM_KENNELS]
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Hey all...new to the forum. I live in Ellis county and am looking for public land with a hog population. I figured this would be the place to get an answer.

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#265701 - 08/21/08 05:22 PM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: Jack-man]
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I'm new to the forum also (first post). Invited by jeh7mmmag. In Texas, we don't have a lot of open public land that anyone can hunt on. The state lands down here (South of San Antonio) are hunted by drawing only. We have a huge wild hog population down here. I've seen over a hundred in one herd, running across a field.

Other comments in this forum string were about litter size and intelligence. They average is around 6 to 8 in each litter. Not all make it to be grown animals. The can have around 3 litters a year, depending on food availability.

They are a general pest to ranchers. I've had them tear up round bales of hay to get at the grain inside, root up fields in search of nut grass tubers, eat cattle supplement from feeders or tubs. When I used to farm, they would go into freshly planted peanut fields and eat up to 4 or 5 acres of peanut seed a night (causing you to have to replant some areas). I've had them get into my vegetable fields and destroy squash, turnips, watermelons, cantaloupes, etc. They will totally destroy corn or grain sorghum fields.

That said…. they are my favorite wild game, as far as eating quality of the meat. I'll choose wild hog over everything (quail is second).

One other thing, concerning the last post by mrbrisket357: Money greed is not the main driving factor for lease hunting. (Note: there are specialty operations that are most probably owned by hunting companies that do it as big business, but I’m talking about the family farmer/rancher). Farming and ranching is not on “par” with the rest of the world as far as dollar income per invested dollar. Contrary to popular belief most farmers and ranchers are not wealthy people. They may be land rich, but they are struggling to make ends meet. Lease hunting, just supplements what has been about 30 years of declining agricultural income. Sometimes the lease money is the only profit for the year, or enough to help pay the land taxes.

As a land owner that allows almost no hunting, except for family members, my issue is privacy. That is the right of any private property owner. Most urban people wouldn't like someone they hardly know going into their back yards and using their BBQ pits or swimming pools, even if they asked permission.

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#265702 - 08/25/08 02:06 PM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: OntheLasGallinas]
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#265703 - 09/11/08 01:44 PM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: TGalyon1]
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Are there any parts of the State of Texas that have solved their "hog problem"?

I keep thinking that with all the hunters in this State and the fact that one can just about hunt them any time, any where (with permission) with just about any weapon, why there are still so many of these hog out there?

Are they really that prolific and that smart?




There are two kinds of property in Texas those that have hogs and those that are going to get hogs .




i hunt near Ozona, TX... and there are 0 (zero) hogs and 0 (zero) coyotes in the entire area... they have not been heard or seen in decades, and the hogs never made it into the area... i don't know if it's because of the lack of water or maybe the javalina keep the habitat more suited for themselves... to be honest, i'd rather have hogs than javalina cuz they taste better.
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#265704 - 09/25/08 02:46 PM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: SteveO]
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No hogs in my area of the panhandle - yet. Do think we will see them before too long.

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#265705 - 09/29/08 12:52 PM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: wellingtontx]
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New Texas Animal Health Commission (TAHC) regulations for moving LIVE feral swine will go into effect October 1.

I am providing the brochure text below, but if you need a supply of the free brochures for distribution, please let me know, and they'll be shipped immediately. Please provide the number of copies you need and a mailing address.
The brochure also is posted on the TAHC web site at http://www.tahc.state.tx.us

Carla Everett
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Why does the Texas Animal Health Commission (TAHC) care about wild hogs?

The TAHC, the state's livestock and poultry health regulatory agency, is concerned about wild (feral) hogs because of the disease threats they pose to domestic cattle and swine herds. Tests on feral, or wild, hogs indicate that about 20 percent of these animals carry pseudorabies, a flu-like pig disease NOT related to rabies, and about 10 percent have swine Brucellosis, the swine form of Brucellosis or Bangs disease.

In 2007, the 80th Texas Legislature provided for the TAHC to regulate the movement of live feral swine, as a measure to control disease spread. The intent of these regulations is to allow the movement of wild hogs for hunting or slaughter, while protecting livestock from the disease risks posed by these animals.

Doesn't the Texas Parks and Wildlife Department (TPWD) regulate hog hunting?

Yes. The TPWD, an agency separate from the TAHC, requires the registration of hunting leases, where persons pay to hunt wild hogs. Sport hunters also must have a hunting license.

If a hunting ranch does NOT receive or release live wild hogs onto the property, the TAHC feral swine regulations do not apply to the operation.

When do the TAHC regulations apply?

The TAHC's regulations apply when LIVE WILD HOGS are moved from the premises where they were trapped or captured. The diagrams below show where the wild hogs may be moved. While awaiting transport, the feral swine may be held in the trap or in a pen for as long as 7 days. A number of pre-existing TAHC-approved holding facilities will continue in operation. These double-fenced facilities are intended to hold feral swine temporarily until a load of the animals can be assembled for shipping to their ultimate destination. Holding facilities must be constructed at least 200 yards from domestic swine pens, and be inspected by the TAHC.

There is no fee for an approved holding facility, but the operator must apply, and records must be maintained on the number and dates of feral swine being placed into and/or removed from the holding facility, the description of the animals and any identification devices, and where the animals were trapped. (To apply for an approved facility, contact your TAHC area office, or the TAHC headquarters at 800-550-8242.)

Allowing feral swine to escape from the approved holding facility, or the failure to maintain records, can lead to a penalty for violation of the rule and suspension or revocation of the approved holding facility status.

Texas has nearly three million feral swine, and increasing the population of these animals heightens the chance for disease transmission. Sows and gilts are not to be moved to hunting preserves. Although there are provisions for domesticating wild hogs for production, this practice is not encouraged. The preferred, ultimate destination for sows and gilts is slaughter.

Boars and barrows may be moved to a hunting preserve, feral swine holding facility, or to slaughter. Boars and barrows may be moved from traps or approved holding facilities to authorized hunting preserves that are fenced adequately to prevent swine from escaping under, over or through the fence. Prior to being released, these animals must have individual identification, approved by the TAHC. (Wild hogs hauled to slaughter from the holding facility do NOT need to be individually identified.)

Like the approved holding facilities, authorized hunting preserves must be approved and inspected by the TAHC, and there is no TAHC fee. Applications may be obtained from the nearest TAHC area office or by calling the TAHC headquarters. A current copy of the TPWD hunting lease license will be required.
Record keeping must be maintained, to include the dates, number, description and individual identification of wild boars and barrows released into the preserve, and those removed through hunting. Fences must be kept in good repair to prevent the escape of the boars and barrows.

A hunting preserve may lose its authorization if identified wild boars or barrows are detected outside the preserve fences.

What about the records?

Records maintained for approved holding facilities and authorized hunting preserves are to be kept by the facility operator, and made available for inspection by TAHC personnel.

Feeding swine:
To prevent potential disease transmission, feral swine and domestic swine are not to be fed garbage, which includes restricted garbage -- raw or cooked meat, meat scraps, or a commingled mixture of meat products or by-products with other food scraps.

Furthermore, Chapter 55.3 of the TAHC's regulations also prohibit feeding feral swine unrestricted garbage, identified as vegetables, fruits, dairy products, or baked goods.

Is there a penalty for disregarding the feral swine regulations?

The TAHC makes every attempt to obtain compliance by providing information and sound reasoning for protecting domestic livestock herds. However, the rules include both criminal and administrative penalties, which may be imposed for violations.

The TAHC feral swine regulations are based on Chapters 161.0412 and 161.1375 of the Texas Administrative Code (law). Noncompliance with movement requirements is a Class C misdemeanor, and repeat offenses are a Class B misdemeanor. Alternatively, the TAHC may address noncompliance with administrative penalties.

The text of the TAHC's feral swine regulations may be obtained on line on the TAHC website at http://www.tahc.state.tx.us; by emailing comments@tahc.state.tx.us; or by calling the TAHC's Public Information Office at 800-550-8242, ext 710.
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#265706 - 10/19/08 04:13 PM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: jeh7mmmag]
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I'm in the Frisco area and looking for 1) close public land to hunt hogs & 2) good, cheap place to go for a day hunt nearby.( My Eastern friends and Dad when they visit. Love to get a hog w/ my bow this year. I do have the Management map book for this year just not sure witch one nearby is the best.

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#265707 - 12/02/08 01:53 AM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: STRIKE_N_STOP_EM_KENNELS]
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In the last 4 years, they have easily tripled or quadrupled in population on our lease in Throckmorton county. I dispatched three this past month inside of 45 minutes, all huge boars. They can ruin a deer hunt fast!
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#265708 - 12/10/08 02:19 PM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: JakeSpoon]
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#265709 - 01/03/09 12:48 AM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: jeh7mmmag]
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http://www.tractorsupply.com/webapp/wcs/...ht_calculations

here's a website that shows how to estimate the weight of a hog
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#265710 - 01/07/09 02:22 AM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: dwdbutcher]
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???? what are hogs bringing per pound now a days???

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#265711 - 01/10/09 02:19 AM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: STRIKE_N_STOP_EM_KENNELS]
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I've bowhunted them on bowhunting only ranches each January for the last 10 years and the demise of many has been their appetite for corn. Great noses, hear better than me and the ones I've hunted can recognize a man's silhouette before you're in bow range. Great animals to bowhunt and to eat!
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#265712 - 01/10/09 02:38 AM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: WyoHunter]
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Helpful tip...IF, yes IF its possible..take out the sows FIRST....since they can pop out more babies then a boar lol cant blame you though if you have a boar tearing up feeders
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#265713 - 01/10/09 11:15 PM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: texasspazzman]
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it is not illegal to carry a handgun during archery only season if you have a concealed handgun license. a buddy of mine carries one when he goes bow hunting he has muscular distrafy in his legs and cant run,barelly walk.so he found out about carrying a handgun during archery season.
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#265714 - 01/17/09 11:51 AM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: Heeler]
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Heeler, we have over 40,000 free acres to hunt around Lake Whitney. They allow shotgun for hogs! I have never hunted it but know people that do successfully. I have threatened myself to hunt it every year just never have. My thoughts where to go by boat and come in on the backside of the Corp. land away from most pressure.
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#265715 - 01/17/09 12:53 PM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: Heeler]
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I've noticed a lot of folks that have livestock don't want people on their land hunting. I guess they are practicing the "better safe, than sorry" routine.
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#265716 - 02/01/09 12:05 AM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: Heeler]
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Heeler,
For 48 dollars you can get some license at the COE office and go to the North end of Ray Roberts on COE land and shoot all the hogs you can fit in your truck.
They will give you a map to show you all the access points and everything a man needs.

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#265717 - 02/05/09 02:29 PM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: STRIKE_N_STOP_EM_KENNELS]
benco Offline
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Here is a good article by TPWD on piggies. Even shows trap making tips.

http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/huntwild/wild/nuisance/feral_hogs/

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#265718 - 02/05/09 05:21 PM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: benco]
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Loc: Burkett area in Coleman County...
They did a fly over in the Cross Plains area couple days ago, in a small area from Cross Plains over to Rowden back up near Caddo Peak...over 250 pigs mostly in groups, dirt napped about 25. Article is in the Cross Plains paper, which is only printed about once a week, going to see if I can get a copy over there tomorrow.
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#265719 - 02/08/09 01:28 AM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: MaggieMTx]
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I'm new here, but have something to add, if that's okay. Some people think pigs are smart "barnyard" animals, cause they can use self feeders and waterers, and they will crap in the same place if penned up, lol. And if you ever cut yourself while gutting/skinning one(wild), you'll need special shots, cause they carry a bad bacteria. At least that's what they told me at the ER, when I was getting stitched up .
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#265720 - 02/08/09 03:10 AM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: d.g.ruff]
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They do & can carry brucellosis which humans can get from them. They may also carry pseudorabies which also requires medication if infected. We try to wear glove then cleaning them.

welcome to the forum also
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#265721 - 02/08/09 11:44 AM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: MaggieMTx]
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Thanks Maggie! Yeah, brucellosis sounds like what the nurse lady said. That was about 10 years ago...
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#265722 - 02/14/09 11:29 PM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: d.g.ruff]
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I'd like to say hog are smarter than deer JMO !!!

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#265723 - 02/24/09 01:12 PM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: jodster]
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From what i learned in a class in high school and on the discovery channel, a hog is the second smartest land animal, and i believe it because of my experience with domestic hogs.
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#265724 - 02/28/09 10:55 PM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: Brandon A]
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Hogs are extremely smart! Alot of times they will migrate making it hard to pinpoint them. There have been several times when we have got on a good boar and he will go directly to a group of sows to try and get the dogs off of him. They know how to use the thickest thickets you can imagine to their advantage.

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#265725 - 03/19/09 05:02 PM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: STRIKE_N_STOP_EM_KENNELS]
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Your not going to get rid of them, they continue to multiply every 90-120 days. All you can do is hunt the land you don't want them on, and that will keep them out for a little while just like any animal. Putting the pressure on them. And as far as hunting them from a helicopter....... That is a whole other story. I just think it's wrong if the they shoot and leave it lay...... That is not hunting. They need to hire hunters to take care of the issue. Which one of us would not like to get paid for doing something we love to do? Anyway...... I will get off my soapbox!
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#265726 - 03/19/09 05:14 PM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: mrsfirehog]
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Hogs are smart to an extent, but their hearing and eye sight are not good. Their nose is almost better than a deer, although you could walk right up on a hog and they can not see you when they are rooting or eating. Their head does not let them. I know they carry diseases, no different than deer or any wild animal. But if the meat is taken care of correctly, all diseases would be cooked out at cooking time.
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#265727 - 03/19/09 06:19 PM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: mrsfirehog]
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a lot of times, it is not about "hunting" the hogs, it is about eradicating, so i see no problem with letting people shoot them out of helicopters, as far as hiring hunters to kill them.... good luck. we have 3 different people that dog hunt all of our land, along with trapping, and i spotlight about every weekend. We still got em....
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#265728 - 03/20/09 03:06 AM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: Brandon A]
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My only thing is, and I know not all will agree with me........ but, I have trouble with shooting something and letting it lay. That is wasted meat that we could be feeding someone that is hungry.
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#265729 - 03/20/09 03:24 AM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: mrsfirehog]
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well no disrespect intended, and i also know that everyone will not agree, but i have a problem with non native animals destroying our property and costing my family thousands of dollars a year, not to say i dont butcher some, and i do usually try to give em away if they are trappedd, usually sell, and sometimes ill try to find a person to take one that i killed, but either way, if ilet the hogs lay, koons, coyotes, other hogs, something will eat it.
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#265730 - 04/27/09 08:31 PM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: Brandon A]
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#265731 - 08/12/09 07:55 PM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: STRIKE_N_STOP_EM_KENNELS]
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they will multiply try big round pen style traps let me know and i can tell you how to build very easy you just got to build a door and then make the pen as big as you want
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#883386 - 09/02/09 09:20 PM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: STRIKE_N_STOP_EM_KENNELS]
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I dont know about yall but i love it!!!Bought me one of them stainless marlin 44 mags and i just shoot em up.And they dont seem to run our deer off.

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#904717 - 09/14/09 04:44 PM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: HOG SNIPER]
FM-Mark Offline
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Registered: 10/12/08
Posts: 117
Loc: Flower Mound, TX
Saw a video of hogs coming back to free a captured hog. The hunter(s) captured the hog with dogs and the other four hogs came back and basically attacked, freeing the hog and they all ran off.

Now, does that show intelligence? Of course, I have yet to meet one face to face, so I'm just speculating.

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#924665 - 09/24/09 09:48 AM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: STRIKE_N_STOP_EM_KENNELS]
jeremiah Offline
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Registered: 09/23/09
Posts: 3
Loc: ft. leonard wood mo.
can anyone give me advice im planning a hunt in missouri, dont know if any hogs are in the area can someone tell me what can be used to find out that aint that exspensive!
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#924700 - 09/24/09 10:15 AM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: jeremiah]
jeremiah Offline
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Registered: 09/23/09
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Loc: ft. leonard wood mo.
can anyone help me on this?
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#924795 - 09/24/09 11:13 AM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: jeremiah]
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Contact some of the local farmers or feed stores. After all you are in MISERY.....
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#924854 - 09/24/09 11:39 AM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: MrRoachie]
jeremiah Offline
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Registered: 09/23/09
Posts: 3
Loc: ft. leonard wood mo.
thanks! anyone from missouri that can maybe help me out on this?
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#924860 - 09/24/09 11:42 AM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: jeremiah]
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Jeremiah,
This thread is for general information only.

Please read the PM I sent you on this.

It would be better to start your personal thread so that the replies can be specific.

Thanks,
Big Orn
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#964424 - 10/15/09 03:11 AM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: Big Orn]
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Registered: 10/15/09
Posts: 171
Loc: Bullard
I will be honest, we are to blame.

This was a problem that at one time was only geographicly specific to Deap East Texas, untill some real idiots decided there so much fun to hunt they would trap them and relocate them. this is how they spread so quickly in the mid to late 90s and prety much became unstopable in the early 2000's

I understand landowners frustration, with people not respecting there land I have helped several folks out whom had probelms with them, and people in the past tearing up there proprty. But if your a landowner and there on your place and your doing nothing to rid them, your part of the problem.

These things have caused way to much destruction, as of late here in East Texas there was over 5mil in ag damage in one county alone last year. One city Jacksonville was overrun so much so where Police were have to respond to calls inside city limits to kill hogs with there sidearms because of the public danger they posed. Eventually there were as many as 50 trps inside city limits.

This is a big problem that will take everybody working together, the State working with landowners, landowners working with hunters and so forth.
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#1039252 - 11/16/09 04:10 AM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: Psychosmurf]
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What I like about hunting hogs is that I don't even have to have a hunting license to hunt them on our private land.
Also, we spotlighted hogs so much, they started running around in the daytime quite a bit. I just love spotlighting hogs.
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#1090907 - 12/08/09 01:44 PM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: rifleman]
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Registered: 12/08/09
Posts: 2
Hello my hunter brotheren i have recently moved to the greatest state in the greater 48. Texas that is and Houston to be more exact. Well i have been hearing about this feral hog epidemic and im very eager to play my role. I currently have my hunter education certification and about 19 yrs of hunting experience.Extensive deer,waterfowl,upland birds and turkey hunting in FL, and MO. but im ready for some serious hog hunting and i have been told i moved to the right place. I would really like to go on a dog hunt with bowies but dusk/dawn/night time food plot and feeder hunts look like a blast. If anyone out there could help point me in the right direction or resource im on a limited budget and cannot afford guided hunts that are worth a car payment.I currently do not know anyone with private land and I would rather not hunt public land , safety for me is top priority.


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#1096159 - 12/10/09 12:50 PM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: jeremiah]
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Loc: ODESSA
I was just wondering about how many guys eat part of the pig or just leave it where it falls. What would be the ratio??

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#1096179 - 12/10/09 01:03 PM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: Buggs]
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Registered: 02/18/09
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Loc: Lavaca Co, Gonzales Co.
id venture to say from what everyone says on the forum, and what i know of people doing, 90% leave em most of the time. why dont u start a thread witha poll? it will get fun
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#1111573 - 12/16/09 09:35 PM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: jeh7mmmag]
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Registered: 11/03/09
Posts: 86
I live north of dallas and we have them in abundance.
We keep our freezers full and give them away when we can.
Sometimes we let them lay where they fall.
Most of the land owners are just happy to get rid of them.
BTW The meat is great. I like it better than store bought.
Get most of it ground, use it where i usually use ground beef.
Makes delicious hamburgers.

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#1115910 - 12/18/09 10:27 PM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: BlackHawkCazador]
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Originally Posted By: BlackHawkCazador
Hello my hunter brotheren i have recently moved to the greatest state in the greater 48. Texas that is and Houston to be more exact. Well i have been hearing about this feral hog epidemic and im very eager to play my role. I currently have my hunter education certification and about 19 yrs of hunting experience.Extensive deer,waterfowl,upland birds and turkey hunting in FL, and MO. but im ready for some serious hog hunting and i have been told i moved to the right place. I would really like to go on a dog hunt with bowies but dusk/dawn/night time food plot and feeder hunts look like a blast. If anyone out there could help point me in the right direction or resource im on a limited budget and cannot afford guided hunts that are worth a car payment.I currently do not know anyone with private land and I would rather not hunt public land , safety for me is top priority.
Shoot me a PM. We are going to do some hog hunts starting in Feb. You can do a 2 1/2 day hunt all for $75 and shoot all you want. Stands and feeders already in place. Located in E Tx. 3 to 4 hrs from Houston.

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#1119219 - 12/20/09 11:37 PM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: sqiggy]
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Loc: Texas, Fort Worth
Get a utillity knife and cut it down the spine. Split them open and cut out the tenderlions. Use a utillity knife-razor blade. There hide will dull a knife in no just getting through there hide. best part is you get 2 huge chunks of meat you can slice up and throw right on the grill. Best part it's free!

Black hawk... Welcome to Texas !

If the hogs aren't knocking at your front door yet....give them time. Soon you won't be able to go to your mailbox before you kick one!
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#1144068 - 01/02/10 01:57 PM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: COWDOG]
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Hog prices remaining steady in Texas
“The demand has remained pretty steady,” said Allen Gilbert, sales manager of Frontier Meats in Fort Worth. “This is really the busy time of year because a lot of hunters are out in the field and are catching the hogs. We are seeing some that are in real good shape and others that are in real poor shape — it just depends on the range conditions.” Just like any other market, the price for live feral hogs fluctuates with the economy. Estimated prices for the live hogs starts at about $5 per head for animals that weigh from 50 to 59 pounds (nothing under 50 pounds is accepted); about 13 cents per pound for those in the 60 to 79 pound range; and about 25 cents per pound for hogs weighing 80 to 99 pounds.

Processors pay a premium of about 35 cents per pound, plus a $5 to $10 per head bonus, for hogs weighing 150 to 249 pounds; and any boar or sow topping 250 pounds brings in about 45 to 50 cents per pound plus at least a $10 per head bonus.
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http://www.lsonews.com/200912311053/Hog-prices-remaining-steady-in-Texas.html
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#1166378 - 01/11/10 11:06 PM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: STRIKE_N_STOP_EM_KENNELS]
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#1198934 - 01/26/10 11:56 AM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: STRIKE_N_STOP_EM_KENNELS]
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Registered: 01/25/10
Posts: 70
Loc: Mckinney, TX
Contact TPW...they did a fly over by helicopter/shotguns--will take em all out. Did a place by our lease early January and took out appx 750 in a weekend...There is a pretty good waiting list...
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#1219891 - 02/04/10 02:52 PM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: Nickels]
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#1234728 - 02/11/10 12:09 AM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: jeh7mmmag]
Atomicjoe23 Offline
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Registered: 02/09/10
Posts: 8
Loc: Washington State
I'm new to this forum, but I just got back from the Dallas area (Mesquite, Rowlett, Commerce, etc.) visiting my new in-laws and you could see the hog damage just by driving the main roads around Commerce. . .

. . .my new PaPaw said I should come back in the summer when I'm finished building my 6.8 AR15 and he'd hook me up with his neighbor who runs them with dogs all the time. . .suffice to say the first thing I did when I got home yesterday was to order my barrel, bolt, and carrier assembly!!! Now I just need to order the buttstock, lower parts, railed forearm, compensator, and scope and I'll be set. . .should be a really sweet hog gun. . .6.8 SPC built around a MegaMachine billet upper/lower reciever (M4 style with forward assist) and an AR15 Performance (one of the main developers of the caliber) 16" stainless steel barrel (from a PacNor blank), 9810 alloy SuperBolt and bolt carrier assembly. . .I'm chomping at the bit to get back in TX and shoot some hogs!!!

My $.02 on hogs. . .you'll never get rid of them. . .there are now small herds/packs being seen even up here in Washington state. . .mainly in the Wynoochee (sp???) area. . .the Washington Fish & Wildlife are hell-bent on eradicating them and want real time reports any time anyone sees them. . .that being said they are really tight lipped about them and won't pass info on about where they are. . .i.e. they deny their existence in WA state, but too many people have seen them for it not to be true. The terrain and environment up here would be ideal for them, but they would destroy the eco-system and our deer and elk populations would be devestated. . .would probably help the black bear and cougar population though. . .

. . .I have heard a lot about the difficulties of hunting in TX with all the hunting leases etc. and that was the #2 reason why my girl and I decided not to move down to TX. . .more than half of Washington is public land and the game is abundant. . .I don't want to move somewhere I will have to pay a ridiculous amount to get access to land or participate in canned hunts. . .

. . .not trying to be offensive because I really liked it while I was down there, just the access thing is ridiculous. . .I primarily only wanna hunt hogs and predators say maybe it wouldn't be as bad for me, but then again it sounds like it might be just as difficult especially with the sudden popularity of predator hunting. . .

. . .any tips for hunting the hogs in the Dallas area? I'm gonna get one of the 5-day non-resident hunting licenses while I'm down there and hopefully I'll get a hound hunt, but that's not guaranteed as of now.

Thanks!

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#1249084 - 02/17/10 08:27 AM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: jeh7mmmag]
tsuhunter99 Offline
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Registered: 02/17/10
Posts: 1
hey guys,im out here in stephenville, TX (Erath county) and i was wondering if anybody knew of a place to go hog hunting out here?

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#1252507 - 02/18/10 01:48 PM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: Nickels]
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Added this article to the very first post. It has some good Box, and Corral trap links in it.
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February 18, 2010
New feral hog publications aim to help landowners thwart growing menace
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#1304704 - 03/12/10 12:13 PM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: jeh7mmmag]
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Registered: 12/19/09
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Loc: DFW
Guys if yall have too many hogs i have a huge number of fatherless boys and teens who would love to hunt them.Lets turn a bad situation into a life changing one.GAONOW.com
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#1307934 - 03/14/10 04:48 PM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: jeh7mmmag]
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Registered: 02/16/10
Posts: 3
Hello all Texas Hog hunters. We here at West Coast Telemetry would like to introduce ourselves. We build a tough tracking collar that is cast in acryllic. We have a special going on our webpage of $105 for each collar. If you have any questions please call us at 1-800-833-8236 and see us at our webpage at www.westcoasttelemetry.com. welcome

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#1310015 - 03/15/10 08:01 PM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: Nickels]
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Corral Traps for Capturing Feral Hogs
Capture Techniques
•Recognizing Feral Hog Sign
•Snares (Learn how to build your own HERE)
•Box traps
•Corral traps
•Bait types (coming soon)
•Firearms
http://pcwp.tamu.edu/FeralHogs/CaptureTechniques.aspx
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#1315417 - 03/18/10 06:00 PM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: constable833]
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Registered: 04/12/09
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Originally Posted By: constable833
does anyone know of a place to do guided cougar hunts?


Try 'Billy Bobs' on a Friday Night..... smile

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#1319936 - Yesterday at 11:20 AM Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: texasag93]
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Registered: 09/27/09
Posts: 86
Loc: Brady, Texas
good one...

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