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#1926344 - 12/16/10 07:50 AM Long range bullet for .25-06??
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What bullet do you .25-06 shooters like for longer range hunting applications?

I know you don't always have to shoot 400-500 yds. but I'd like to work up a load that would be capable of taking a Mule Deer out to that range.

I'm kind of looking at Sierra Game Kings and Barnes TSX both in the 117gr. range.

I've got some IMR 4831 and 4064 as well as some IMR 4350.


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#1926452 - 12/16/10 08:26 AM Re: Long range bullet for .25-06?? [Re: fishhound]
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Your choices are good but the long range king of hunting bullets for the 25-06 is the 115gr Berger VLD. 53gr of IMR-7828 and the Bergers is hard to beat.

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#1926555 - 12/16/10 09:00 AM Re: Long range bullet for .25-06?? [Re: 30378]
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If you are wanting to go with a barnes bullet I would go with one of the tipped ones. I have heard they expand alot more readily than the tsx. I think you will have a hard time getting good expansion at the reduced velocity of long range. I would think an accubond or the beger's or even a balitic tip should do you well at 4-500 yards

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#1926596 - 12/16/10 09:07 AM Re: Long range bullet for .25-06?? [Re: redchevy]
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Nosler accubonds work well also.

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#1926759 - 12/16/10 09:53 AM Re: Long range bullet for .25-06?? [Re: dee]
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Another good option would be the 120 gr nosler partition..that is a good game round and a little heavier bullet which should have slightly more energy...Ive been shooting the bergers and they are a devastating round on game although I havent had a shot in the 400-500yd range yet...but at 200yds, man they do work!


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#1927061 - 12/16/10 11:21 AM Re: Long range bullet for .25-06?? [Re: nmhybridhunter]
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I,ve shot Federal Premium Ammo with Partitions before and my gun did NOT like them. Shot abou 2" groups at 100 yds.

Don't know which part of the recipe it didn't like but Just in case it was the bullet, I'm going to put the Nosler further down the list.

I guess the most important thing to consider at that range is accuracy right?

I'm thinking the Bergers might be the first Guinea pig for this round.

Have any of you loaded the Sierra Gameking 117gr.? How did it do as far as accuracy? I've heard it's packs a good punch.


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#1927094 - 12/16/10 11:31 AM Re: Long range bullet for .25-06?? [Re: fishhound]
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berger, ttsx, or accubond. all good long range profiles. i have no experience with the bergers, but the other 2 will cover you for close shots to long shots.


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#1927210 - 12/16/10 12:08 PM Re: Long range bullet for .25-06?? [Re: fishhound]
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Originally Posted By: fishhound
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I guess the most important thing to consider at that range is accuracy right?



Accuracy, ballistic coeffient, and ability to expand at reduced velocity.

I would start with the Bergers and the 117gr GameKings. It's likely that one of those two will be very accurate in your rifle. If not, you may have a problem with the rifle!


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#1927227 - 12/16/10 12:12 PM Re: Long range bullet for .25-06?? [Re: JJH]
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I would say the 100gr. TSX loaded to max

I shot a doe with my .257wby at 417yds this year with a 100gr barnes TSX and it ran about 30yds with a fire hose blood trail.

I think the hollowpoint design opens up MUCH more readily, and I think the accubond would be a good choice to but I dont think it will open as quickly at long ranges as the TSX with its open tip.

I however would not use a Sierra game king, sorry but the only deer that I have ever lost was shot with one at 250yds



Edited by deewayne2003 (12/16/10 12:13 PM)

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#1927312 - 12/16/10 12:33 PM Re: Long range bullet for .25-06?? [Re: deewayne2003]
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If you are going to try the TSX, I would suggest the newer, Tipped TSX. It has a plastic tip which improves the BC and provides more reliable expansion at longer ranges where the velocity has fallen off.

I just played around a little on some ballistic software and at 500 yds, the difference in drop between the 115/117 bullets and the 100gr TSX is about an inch. But the heavier bullets drift a lot less in the wind than the lighter bullet. With range finders, it's easier to adjust for the correct drop than it is to dope the wind at long range. JMHO.

dewayne: With respect, if you did not recover the deer that you shot with the GameKing, how can you know it was the bullet's fault? I have shot many deer with that bullet from 25/06's, 257's and 257AI's. Never had a problem.


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#1927380 - 12/16/10 12:56 PM Re: Long range bullet for .25-06?? [Re: JJH]
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There was blood every where and a good trail but the deer kept going and going while being chased by a pack of wild dogs, the deer made it close to a road before it died and was carried off by some Okies on Thanks giving morning.

The bullet was a 130gr. 270win sierra game king, and while I did not recover the deer I do know this.

the deer was hit in the shoulder and his front end buckled and he pushed himself with his hind legs for 40yds and stood up with one legs flopping around(the shoulder I hit him in) and made it to the tree line before I could put another one in him.

Found tons of blood, and no it was not a gut shot but it just kept going and going.

While I cant say for certain that it was the bullets performance....it just soured me on the Gamekings and I Killed my first buck with a That very same load and same bullet and even killed a couple after that buck i lost but after that I never could really trust them again.

Switched to nosler accubonds in 140gr for the .270 and on occasion the 140gr interlock from hornady.

I breifly tried the gameking in .257wby and wasnt happy with the explode on impact results I saw at 3,500fps velocity

I have been pleased with the performance of the 100gr TSX from Point blank contact at 3,500fps to 417yds it has held up and has expanded and performed flawlessly, and thats what I think hes looking for a bullet that will work at point blank and all the way out to long range.



Edited by deewayne2003 (12/16/10 01:19 PM)

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#1927646 - 12/16/10 02:07 PM Re: Long range bullet for .25-06?? [Re: deewayne2003]
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Tough Decisions. I do think I'm gonna go with a 115-120 gr. bullet because of the wind drift advantage. I guess I just have to find what is most accurate in my gun. I'll probably try the Gameking then Berger then TSX in that order.

Based on the reviews that I have looked at the Berger and Gameking seem to have the best accuracy and the Gameking had some consistently good reports on energy transfer.

I have heard that the TSX is devastating and provides great penetration, but I have heard some mixed reviews about accuracy.

Thanks for the advice everyone.



Edited by fishhound (12/16/10 02:14 PM)

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#1928217 - 12/16/10 04:12 PM Re: Long range bullet for .25-06?? [Re: fishhound]
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I load both the 100gr Barnes TTSX & the 115gr TSX for .25-06 over IMR7828 & 4350 respectively. I prefer the TTSX, better expansion @ longer ranges & holds together plenty good up close.

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#1929310 - 12/16/10 09:47 PM Re: Long range bullet for .25-06?? [Re: JJH]
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Originally Posted By: JJH
If you are going to try the TSX, I would suggest the newer, Tipped TSX. It has a plastic tip which improves the BC and provides more reliable expansion at longer ranges where the velocity has fallen off.



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#1929844 - 12/17/10 08:25 AM Re: Long range bullet for .25-06?? [Re: fowlplayr]
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Where do y'all get the TTSX in .257? Only place I have looked so far is Cabelas and they don't have .257 cal in TTSX.


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