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Best semi auto 12 gauge for under $700 #1495981 06/24/10 03:03 PM
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Looking to buy a new semi auto shotgun with an out of the door price of less than $700. Is a Remington 11-87, one of the better deals to fit this criteria?


Re: Best semi auto 12 gauge for under $700 [Re: JThoele] #1496227 06/24/10 05:31 PM
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beretta 391 is a better gun and no orings



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how else is it better?


Re: Best semi auto 12 gauge for under $700 [Re: JThoele] #1496273 06/24/10 05:51 PM
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For under $700

Gas- Beretta
Inertia- Franchi

some of the budget guns like stroger, Charles Daley, escourt, ect are decent guns IF you get a good one. CD, escourtt and tri-star are basically turkish made 1187 actions

Stroger is a turkish made benelli action.



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Re: Best semi auto 12 gauge for under $700 [Re: JThoele] #1496541 06/24/10 07:47 PM
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I have an 1187 and I would buy another one tomorrow. No problems with it


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Re: Best semi auto 12 gauge for under $700 [Re: Brother in-law] #1497046 06/24/10 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted By: Brother in-law
I have an 1187 and I would buy another one tomorrow. No problems with it


Same here.


Re: Best semi auto 12 gauge for under $700 [Re: twice70] #1497131 06/25/10 12:28 AM
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Beretta 390/3901 (New/Used)
Beretta 391 Used maybe a LNIB avail $$

Browning Gold Hunter

Winchester 1400 (used)

Win Super X field

Traditions AL-2100 is a Beretta 303 knockoff, real good quality




Re: Best semi auto 12 gauge for under $700 [Re: RKHarm24] #1497553 06/25/10 04:34 AM
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What are you using the shotgun for?



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Re: Best semi auto 12 gauge for under $700 [Re: TDK] #1497582 06/25/10 05:14 AM
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dove and duck


Re: Best semi auto 12 gauge for under $700 [Re: JThoele] #1498006 06/25/10 04:26 PM
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I'm gonna go ahead and be "that guy" that gives a vote to Tri-Star, only if you're a fan of saving $350+ bucks...The new model viper doesn't have o-rings on it, 400 rds so far and not a flinch in my gf's 20 gauge!

Now, if you still want to spend 700 bones, then I dont know, because Ive never had that as an option in weapon purchases at this point in my life!


Re: Best semi auto 12 gauge for under $700 [Re: Bobbaganoosh] #1498193 06/25/10 05:46 PM
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Re: Best semi auto 12 gauge for under $700 [Re: dk5265] #1498263 06/25/10 06:16 PM
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For around $700, you should be able to find a good clean used Benelli M1 Super 90.

Here are a couple.

Benelli

Benelli

Benelli




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Re: Best semi auto 12 gauge for under $700 [Re: JThoele] #1498378 06/25/10 07:13 PM
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Academy has Benelli M2 for $699, another great gun is a Beretta 390 for $500-$600.

Dont be the guy that buys the Tristar for $350 less, then comes on here whining because it broke or wont cycle in the middle of the season.



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Re: Best semi auto 12 gauge for under $700 [Re: TDK] #1498396 06/25/10 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted By: TDK

Dont be the guy that buys the Tristar for $350 less, then comes on here whining because it broke or wont cycle in the middle of the season.


Surely that wouldn't happen..... confused2


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Re: Best semi auto 12 gauge for under $700 [Re: BOBO the Clown] #1498591 06/25/10 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
beretta 391 is a better gun and no orings


Where can you get a new 391 for $700? I've been looking for a 20ga 391 for a few years and they are always $900+. I paid $725 for my 12ga and that was 8-9 years ago.


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Franchi

Forgot about Franchi......

Beretta 391 Synthetic 12ga can be had LNIB/NIB $600+
Gotta hold your mouth right and look in the right forsale cubbyholes.




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For duck hunting, I would not recommend an 1187. Mine functioned fine for dove, quail, and skeet/trap. When I started duck hunting and using 3" shells, I had nothing but problems. Lots of jambing problems, broken parts, and trips to the gun smith. Since your original post was for best semi auto, I'd have to say eliminate the 1187. Mine is a single shot as often as it is semi auto. Nothing sucks worse than ducks coming at you and your gun jamming after the first shot.


Re: Best semi auto 12 gauge for under $700 [Re: retrieverman] #1501684 06/28/10 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted By: retrieverman
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Dont be the guy that buys the Tristar for $350 less, then comes on here whining because it broke or wont cycle in the middle of the season.


Surely that wouldn't happen..... confused2



Actually it wouldn't happen, I've own a Beretta 391 Urika and now a Tristar Generation 2 Viper, and let me tell you, the Tristar is the only one of the two that has never jammed, misfired, or actually done anything negative. My Beretta on the other hand jammed like crazy for the longest time. You want to know whats bad is, I know that $248 Tristar will out shoot my $950 Beretta, no doubt. We actually shot 250 rounds through the Tristar today at some clays, not one problem or jam. And when you compare the two up close they are very similar, and the Tristar is lighter too. I thought that would be problem with the kick and all, but it's not. It kicks the same as the Beretta. So don't knock the Tristar, IMO, it is by far the best deal out there!


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Originally Posted By: WestForkGuideService
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Originally Posted By: TDK

Dont be the guy that buys the Tristar for $350 less, then comes on here whining because it broke or wont cycle in the middle of the season.


Surely that wouldn't happen..... confused2



Actually it wouldn't happen, I've own a Beretta 391 Urika and now a Tristar Generation 2 Viper, and let me tell you, the Tristar is the only one of the two that has never jammed, misfired, or actually done anything negative. My Beretta on the other hand jammed like crazy for the longest time. You want to know whats bad is, I know that $248 Tristar will out shoot my $950 Beretta, no doubt. We actually shot 250 rounds through the Tristar today at some clays, not one problem or jam. And when you compare the two up close they are very similar, and the Tristar is lighter too. I thought that would be problem with the kick and all, but it's not. It kicks the same as the Beretta. So don't knock the Tristar, IMO, it is by far the best deal out there!

Thanks for the laugh!






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keep telling yourself that. Cant argue with something that is proven.

Tristar still has inconsistent quality control, glad you got a good one. But I wouldnt base my opinion on a gun with only a few hundred rounds in it, especially when there are Beretta 391's with over 200,000rnds that still work fine.

Its also far from the best deal out there. But I guess my opinion of "a good deal" is different.

Its also my experience that most semi-auto problems are operator error. But I am not saying the possibility isnt there for a manufacturer defect, because even the high end guns have them. Beretta 391's are known for having cases of bent carriers from the factory which cause jamming issues. But that number is very small.

Then we can bring up the fact that Tristar is a new company that MAY OR MAY NOT be here 5yrs from now. Whats going to happen if they go out of business and you cant get parts if it breaks? Your going to be paying a lot of money for a gunsmith to make a part and its not worth it in a $248 diposable gun. Beretta...I bet they can make it another 500yrs.

Beretta 390 for the win!

Tristar=disposable


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Originally Posted By: WestForkGuideService
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Originally Posted By: TDK

Dont be the guy that buys the Tristar for $350 less, then comes on here whining because it broke or wont cycle in the middle of the season.


Surely that wouldn't happen..... confused2



Actually it wouldn't happen, I've own a Beretta 391 Urika and now a Tristar Generation 2 Viper, and let me tell you, the Tristar is the only one of the two that has never jammed, misfired, or actually done anything negative. My Beretta on the other hand jammed like crazy for the longest time. You want to know whats bad is, I know that $248 Tristar will out shoot my $950 Beretta, no doubt. We actually shot 250 rounds through the Tristar today at some clays, not one problem or jam. And when you compare the two up close they are very similar, and the Tristar is lighter too. I thought that would be problem with the kick and all, but it's not. It kicks the same as the Beretta. So don't knock the Tristar, IMO, it is by far the best deal out there!


I'll buy you a brand new Tristar for $248 and never fire it and trade you for that 391?

Let me know, I am interested wink

I'm glad you like the Tristar but not worth the gamble to me.



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Originally Posted By: WestForkGuideService
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Originally Posted By: TDK

Dont be the guy that buys the Tristar for $350 less, then comes on here whining because it broke or wont cycle in the middle of the season.


Surely that wouldn't happen..... confused2



Actually it wouldn't happen, I've own a Beretta 391 Urika and now a Tristar Generation 2 Viper, and let me tell you, the Tristar is the only one of the two that has never jammed, misfired, or actually done anything negative. My Beretta on the other hand jammed like crazy for the longest time. You want to know whats bad is, I know that $248 Tristar will out shoot my $950 Beretta, no doubt. We actually shot 250 rounds through the Tristar today at some clays, not one problem or jam. And when you compare the two up close they are very similar, and the Tristar is lighter too. I thought that would be problem with the kick and all, but it's not. It kicks the same as the Beretta. So don't knock the Tristar, IMO, it is by far the best deal out there!


Congratulations on your gun. Many of my friends have Berettas and shoot them competitively, and none have had the issues that you have. That has got to be fluke.

With all that jamming, did you ever let a gunsmith look at the gun or just pass the gun/problem on to someone else without telling them?


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